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GOOD MORNING. I'D LIKE TO CALL

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TO ORDER THIS MEETING OF THE

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SENATE STANDING COMMITTEE ON

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PUBLIC SAFETY. WELCOME TO OUR

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HEARING. WE HAVE 43 BILLS ON

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OUR AGENDA TODAY AND A NUMBER

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OF BILLS ON THE CONSENT

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CALENDAR. LET ME READ OFF THE

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CONSENT CALENDAR AT THIS TIME.

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ITEM NUMBER TWO AB 1586. RAMOS.

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ITEM NUMBER THREE AB 1681.

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RAMOS. ITEM NUMBER SIX. AB 501.

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PAPINE. ITEM NUMBER TEN. AB

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1572. ALANIS AND AB 1612 ALANIS.

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ITEM 15 AB 1689 QUIRK-SILVA.

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ITEM 20 AB 2502 PELLERIN. ITEM

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22. AB 1912 HARDWICK. ITEM 23

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AB 1913 SORIA. ITEM 39. AB 2761

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PETRIE-NORRIS AND ITEM 42 AB

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2684 BY NGUYEN. WE DO NOT YET

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HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE WILL

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OPERATE AS A SUBCOMMITTEE. AND

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JUST AN ANNOUNCEMENT AS WE

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BEGIN TODAY'S HEARING. ON EACH

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BILL, THE AUTHOR HAS DESIGNATED

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TWO PRINCIPAL WITNESSES TO

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SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL,

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SO THEY WILL EACH HAVE TWO

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MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE

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COMMITTEE ON THE BILL. AFTER

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THAT, WE WILL ALLOW MEMBERS OF

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THE PUBLIC TO COME FORWARD AND

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STATE THEIR NAME, THEIR

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ORGANIZATION, OR WHAT CITY

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THEY'RE FROM, AND THEIR

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POSITION IN SUPPORT AND

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OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. WE WILL

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NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE ANY

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ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY, BUT WE

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THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

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AFTER THAT, WE'LL TAKE TWO

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PRINCIPAL OPPOSITION WITNESSES.

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THE OPPOSITION WITNESSES MUST

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HAVE SUBMITTED A LETTER TO THE

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COMMITTEE PRIOR TO OUR HEARING.

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TO BE OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZED AS

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OPPOSITION WITNESSES. AND THEN

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AFTER THAT, WE'LL OPEN UP FOR

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ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THE

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PUBLIC WHO WANT TO EXPRESS

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THEIR OPPOSITION TO THE BILL.

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ONCE AGAIN, NAME, ORGANIZATION

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AND POSITION ON THE BILL. SO

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WITH THAT, WE'LL BEGIN WITH OUR

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BILL PRESENTATIONS IN

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CONSULTATION WITH.

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ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S, ARAMBULA. AND

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WE HAVE KIND OF AGREED ON AN

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ORDER FOR THE FIRST

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PRESENTATIONS. ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S

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HAS TO GO BACK TO HIS DISTRICT,

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SO WITHOUT OBJECTION, WE'LL GO

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FIRST TO HIS BILL, WHICH IS AB

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2605. THANK YOU, MR. Þ.

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ASSEMBLYMEMBER'S SORRY, IT'S A

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LITTLE DIFFERENT HERE IN THE

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SENATE. AND WHENEVER YOU'RE

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READY, YOU MAY PRESENT ON AB

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2605. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND

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SENATORS, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY

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TO PRESENT ON ASSEMBLY BILL

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2605 TODAY. AND I'LL ACCEPT THE

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COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS, WHICH ARE

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ADDING. CHAIR ER AGAIN, AS A

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COAUTHOR TO THIS BILL,

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CALIFORNIA'S LONG STANDING

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ISSUES IN PROVIDING PUBLIC

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DEFENSE TO INDIVIDUALS ACCUSED

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OF CRIMES HAS A REAL COST ON

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THE STATE'S POOREST AND MOST

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UNDER-RESOURCED COUNTIES.

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THOUGH THE SIXTH AMENDMENT

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ENSHRINES THE RIGHT TO COUNSEL

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FOR DEFENDANTS IN CRIMINAL

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PROSECUTION, THE STATE DOES NOT

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CURRENTLY COLLECT DATA ON HOW

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PUBLIC DEFENSE IS PROVIDED AT

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THE LOCAL LEVEL. THIS HAS

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CREATED A SYSTEM WHERE MANY

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DEFENDANTS HAVE NEVER EVEN MET

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THE DEFENDER, THEIR ATTORNEYS,

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AND HAVE NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY

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TO INVESTIGATE THE ACCUSATIONS

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WHICH ARE MADE AGAINST THEM. AB

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2605 ADDRESSES THIS ISSUE BY

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ESTABLISHING REPORTING

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REQUIREMENTS ON THE NATURE OF

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PUBLIC DEFENSE SERVICES

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PROVIDED ACROSS THE STATE. MOST

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OTHER STATES APPROPRIATE

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SIGNIFICANT FUNDING FOR PUBLIC

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DEFENSE SERVICES, AND

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CALIFORNIA IS AN OUTLIER IN

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SHIFTING THIS RESPONSIBILITY TO

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THE LOCAL LEVEL. THIS BILL IS A

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NECESSARY FIRST STEP IN

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UNDERSTANDING THE SCOPE OF THIS

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ISSUE. HERE TO TESTIFY IN

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SUPPORT IS SCOTT BAILEY,

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RETIRED FRESNO COUNTY PUBLIC

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DEFENDER. AND SIR, IF YOU CAN

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PRESENT FROM THE TABLE, SORRY,

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THE AUTHORS PRESENT FROM THE

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PODIUM AND THE WITNESSES

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PRESENT FROM THE TABLE. THANK

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YOU. HAVE TWO MINUTES. GOOD

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MORNING. THE SIXTH AMENDMENT OF

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THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION

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DOESN'T JUST GUARANTEE THE

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RIGHT TO A SOMEONE ACCUSED OF A

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CRIME FOR RICH PEOPLE. IT

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APPLIES TO INDIGENT POOR PEOPLE

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AS WELL. IF YOU WERE ARRESTED

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IN A CALIFORNIA COUNTY, YOU

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WOULD BE BROUGHT INTO A

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COURTROOM AND YOU WOULD SEE

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WHERE THE IN CUSTODY PEOPLE ARE

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SITTING AND THE OUT OF CUSTODY

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PEOPLE ARE SITTING IN A

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COURTROOM WOULD LOOK LIKE A

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ROOM LIKE THIS. YOU WOULD SEE A

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JUDGE AND YOU COULD TELL WHO

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THE LAWYERS ARE. YOU COULD TELL

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THE LAWYERS ARE BUSY. AND AS

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YOU'RE FACING CHARGES ON THIS

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CRIME, YOUR QUESTIONS ARE, IS

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THIS LAWYER GOING TO TALK TO ME?

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IS THIS LAWYER GOING TO HAVE

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THE TIME TO READ THE POLICE

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REPORTS? IS THE LAWYER GOING TO

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BE ABLE TO VISIT ME IN THE JAIL

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AND AND LISTEN TO MY SIDE OF

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THE STORY? THE ANSWER TO THESE

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QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER A

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LAWYER IS ABLE TO DO THESE

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THINGS IS HOW BUSY THAT LAWYER

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IS. HOW MANY CASES IS THAT

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LAWYER CARRYING? IF THERE ARE

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TOO MANY CASES, THOSE LAWYERS

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CANNOT DO THE JOB. THIS BILL IS

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JUST ASKING FOR DATA SO YOU CAN

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TELL IF SOMEBODY HAS TOO MANY

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CASES. THEY CAN'T BE EFFICIENT.

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IT'S JUST ABOUT NUMBERS. THANK

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YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS

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THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO

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EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR AB 26005?

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PLEASE COME FORWARD AND STATE

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YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION AND

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POSITION ON THE BILL. GOOD

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MORNING, MARGO GEORGE. ON

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BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC

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DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND

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SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD

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MORNING, LIZ GUTIERREZ. ON

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BEHALF OF SMART JUSTICE

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CALIFORNIA AND STRONG SUPPORT.

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GOOD MORNING, ERIC HENDERSON ON

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BEHALF OF THE ELLA BAKER CENTER

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FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND SUPPORT.

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GOOD MORNING, JOANNE SCHEER ON

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BEHALF OF FELONY MURDER

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ELIMINATION PROJECT IN STRONG

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SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER

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SUPPORT WITNESSES? ARE YOU A

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SUPPORT WITNESS? OKAY. SUSAN

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BUSTAMANTE WITH CALIFORNIA

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COALITION WOMEN PRISONERS AND

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SUPPORT. THANK YOU. UNLESS

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THERE'S ANY OTHER SUPPORT,

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WITNESSES WILL NOT TAKE UP TO

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TWO OPPOSITION WITNESS. I THINK

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THERE WAS ONLY ONE OPPOSITION

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LETTER FROM THE FRESNO COUNTY

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BOARD OF SUPERVISORS. IS THERE

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ANY OPPOSITION WITNESSES?

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SEEING NO ONE. I'LL BRING IT

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BACK TO THE DAIS FOR ANY

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QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. NO

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COMMENTS. WE DON'T HAVE A

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QUORUM YET, SO THANK YOU. TURN

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IT BACK OVER TO THE AUTHOR TO

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CLOSE, PRESENT AND RESPECTFULLY

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ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE WHEN IT'S

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APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU VERY

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MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH.

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WHO WHO WANTS TO GO NEXT? OKAY.

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OKAY. THANK YOU. I JUST I WANT

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TO I KNOW THAT THE AUTHORS HAVE

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BEEN COORDINATING THE ORDER

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BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY TAKE

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MEASURES IN FALL ORDER, BUT

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WE'RE WORKING WITH EVERYONE'S

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SCHEDULES. SO WE'LL NOW PROCEED

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TO THE NEXT ITEM. ITEM 13 A, B

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1650 BY ASSEMBLYMEMBER COLUSA.

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THANK YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF

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THE COMMITTEE. THANK YOU AS

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WELL TO MY COLLEAGUES FOR THEIR

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GRACE AND ALLOWING ME TO

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PRESENT NEXT. I'M HERE TO

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PRESENT AB 1650 THIS MORNING.

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THANK YOU AS WELL TO THE

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COMMITTEE CONSULTANTS, STAFF

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AND MY PRINCIPAL COAUTHOR,

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ASSEMBLY MEMBER LIZ ORTEGA, FOR

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THEIR PARTNERSHIP AND

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THOUGHTFUL WORK ON THIS BILL.

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AB 1650 IS ABOUT SAFETY,

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TRANSPARENCY, AND

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ACCOUNTABILITY. SINCE THE

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SUMMER OF 2025, AND FOR

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ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITIES BY ICE

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HAVE INTENSIFIED ACROSS OUR

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STATE FROM LOS ANGELES,

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SACRAMENTO, SAN DIEGO AND SAN

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FRANCISCO. THESE OPERATIONS

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HAVE RAISED SERIOUS CONCERNS

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ABOUT OVERSIGHT AND SAFETY. WE

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HAVE SEEN GROWING CONCERN ON

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THE USE OF UNMARKED RENTAL

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VEHICLES AND ENFORCEMENT

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OPERATIONS THAT INVOLVED

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ARRESTS, DETENTION AND

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TRANSPORT OF MEMBERS OF OUR

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COMMUNITY. WHEN VEHICLES AND

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VEHICLES USED BY GOVERNMENT

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AGENCIES LACK PROPER

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IDENTIFICATION, IT BECOMES

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DIFFICULT FOR THE PUBLIC TO

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DISTINGUISH BETWEEN LEGITIMATE

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LAW ENFORCEMENT AND BAD ACTORS.

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ADDITIONALLY, THIS INVITES

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POTENTIAL ABUSES OF POWER IN

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GOVERNMENT, GIVEN THE ABSENCE

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OF TRANSPARENCY OR

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ACCOUNTABILITY IN HOW THESE

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VEHICLES ARE BEING USED. THESE

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PRACTICES CREATE NOT JUST

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CONFUSION, BUT FEAR, FEAR FOR

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THE PUBLIC AND FEAR FOR THOSE

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WHO ARE BEING ILLEGALLY FACED

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WITH GOVERNMENTAL FORCE AND

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VIOLENCE. AT THE SAME TIME,

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RENTAL CAR COMPANIES ARE

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FINDING THEMSELVES AT THE

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CENTER OF THIS ISSUE. THEIR

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VEHICLES ARE BEING USED IN

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THESE OPERATIONS WITHOUT

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NOTIFICATION OR CONSISTENT

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STANDARDS FOR SAFETY AND

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IDENTIFICATION. AB 1650

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DELIVERS A NECESSARY AND URGENT

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STEP TO SAFEGUARD OUR

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COMMUNITIES AND RESTORE TRUST

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IN THE LEADERS WHO ARE MEANT TO

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SERVE AND PROTECT THEM. THIS

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BILL ALSO ENSURES THAT ANY

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PRIVATELY OWNED VEHICLE RENTED

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OR LEASED TO A GOVERNMENTAL

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AGENCY FOR PURPOSES OF

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ENFORCEMENT IS CLEARLY

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IDENTIFIABLE WITH DECALS. IT

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ALSO ESTABLISHES ENFORCEMENT

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MECHANISMS TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE

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AND ACCOUNTABILITY. WITH THAT,

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I'M PROUD TO BE JOINED BY DIANE

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ESCAMILLA, STATE POLICY

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COORDINATOR WITH THE CENTRAL

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AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER, ALSO

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KNOWN AS GARRISON, AND MONICA

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MADRID, STATE POLICY ADVOCATE

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COALITION FOR HUMANE IMMIGRANT

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RIGHTS, ALSO KNOWN AS CHIRLA,

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WHO WILL TESTIFY TO THE

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IMPORTANCE OF THIS MEASURE. AND

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FOR TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE, I

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HAVE NOELLE CALVILLO, ATTORNEY

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AT LAW. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY

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MUCH, WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO

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BEGIN. AND SO YOU'RE JUST HERE

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FOR QUESTIONS? THAT'S CORRECT.

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TWO WITNESSES. OKAY, AWESOME.

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WELL, GOOD AFTERNOON OR GOOD

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MORNING, CHAIR MEMBERS. MY NAME

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IS DENNIS KAMIYA, POLICY

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COORDINATOR WITH THE CENTRAL

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AMERICAN RESOURCE CENTER. WE

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ARE THE LARGEST CENTRAL

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AMERICAN IMMIGRANT. WE ARE THE

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LARGEST CENTRAL AMERICAN NÓ.

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WE'RE RIGHT. OKAY. ANYWAYS,

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HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF ÁP

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1650, A BILL THAT WOULD REQUIRE

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CERTAIN DISCLOSURES WHEN RENTED

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VEHICLES ARE BEING USED BY LAW

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ENFORCEMENT, BY HAVING THEM

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DISPLAY A TEMPORARY DECAL

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SHOWCASING THE AGENCY NAME AND

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LOGO. JUNE 6TH JUNE 6TH MARKED

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ONE YEAR SINCE THE IMMIGRATION

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RATES BECAME MORE ROUTINE AND

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VISIBLE IN OUR STATE, WITH THE

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FIRST RATE KICKING OFF AT OUR

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GARRISON DAY LABOR CENTER.

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SINCE THEN, OUR DAY LABOR

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CENTER HAS BEEN ATTACKED

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SEVERAL MORE TIMES, EACH RATE

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CAUSING MORE FEAR AND

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SEPARATING FAMILIES. HOWEVER,

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OPERATION TROJAN HORSE HAS BEEN

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THE MOST VIOLENT RAID SO FAR.

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THIS ATTACK TOOK PLACE ON

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AUGUST 6TH, WHEN A RENTED

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PENSKE CAR PULLED INTO THE HOME.

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THE PARKING LOT OF HOME DEPOT,

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WHERE OUR DAY LABOR CENTER IS

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LOCATED, AND BORDER AGENTS IN

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FULL MILITARY GEAR JUMPED OUT

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IN THE BACK OF THE BOX TRUCK.

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THERE WERE 16 ARRESTS MADE THAT

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DAY. DEHUMANIZING TACTICS WERE

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USED, SUCH AS TEAR GAS, RUBBER

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BULLETS, AND VIOLENT PHYSICAL

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FORCE. I HAVE SPOKEN DIRECTLY

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TO IMPACTED COMMUNITY MEMBERS,

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AND THEY'VE TOLD ME ABOUT THE

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STRESS THAT THEIR BODY

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EXPERIENCES WEEKS AFTER BECAUSE

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OF THE FEAR AND IMMIGRATION

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ENFORCEMENT DOES NOT BELONG IN

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OUR COMMUNITIES, AND THEY

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SHOULD HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY

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TO SELF IDENTIFY THEMSELVES AND

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THE VEHICLES THAT THEY ARE

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USING, EVEN IF THE VEHICLES ARE

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RENTED. BY HAVING LAW

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ENFORCEMENT LABEL THEIR RENTED

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VEHICLES, WE CAN HELP COMMUNITY

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MEMBERS BETTER PROTECT

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THEMSELVES. FOR THESE REASONS,

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GARRISON IS ASKING YOUR SUPPORT

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FOR AB 1650. THANK YOU. GOOD

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MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY

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NAME IS MONICA MADRID. I'M A

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STATE POLICY ADVOCATE WITH THE

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COALITION FOR HUMANE IMMIGRANT

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RIGHTS. CHIRLA. I AM HERE TODAY

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IN SUPPORT OF AB 1650 BY

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ASSEMBLY MEMBER KOLASSA. FOR

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MANY IMMIGRANT FAMILIES, SEEING

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INDIVIDUALS ARRIVED IN UNMARKED

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VEHICLES AND CONDUCT

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ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS CAN BE

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CONFUSING AND FRIGHTENING.

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PEOPLE ARE OFTEN LEFT WONDERING

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WHO IS CARRYING OUT THE ACTION

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AND WHETHER THEY'RE ACTUALLY

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INTERACTING. INTERACTING WITH

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LAW ENFORCEMENT THAT THAT

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UNCERTAINTY CAN CREATE FEAR,

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MISTRUST, AND UNNECESSARY

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TENSION DURING AN ALREADY

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STRESSFUL SITUATION. FOR

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EXAMPLE, IN LA LAST YEAR,

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COMMUNITY MEMBERS REPORTED

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MULTIPLE INCIDENTS WHERE

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INDIVIDUALS MARKED AND UNMARKED

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SUVS APPROACHED HOMES, LEADING

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RESIDENTS TO BELIEVE THEY WERE

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BEING TARGETED BY UNKNOWN

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ACTORS RATHER THAN LAW

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ENFORCEMENT, PROMPTING SOME

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FAMILIES TO AVOID ANSWERING

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THEIR DOORS OR CALLING FOR HELP

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OUT OF FEAR. THESE CONCERNS

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HAVE BECOME INCREASINGLY COMMON

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OVER THE OVER THE PAST YEAR, AS

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IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES HAVE

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EXPERIENCED HEIGHTENED

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IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT

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ACTIVITY, INCLUDING LARGE SCALE

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OPERATIONS IN LOS ANGELES.

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THROUGH THE LA RAPID RESPONSE

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NETWORK, WE. WE REGULARLY HEAR

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FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE

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UNSURE WHETHER INDIVIDUALS

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CONDUCTING ENFORCEMENT OR LAW

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ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS BECAUSE

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THEY HAVE ARRIVED IN UNMARKED

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OR DIFFICULT TO IDENTIFY

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VEHICLES. AB 1650 IS A SIMPLE

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TRANSPARENCY MEASURE. THAT

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MEASURE THAT HELPS ADDRESS THAT

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THAT CONCERN BY REQUIRING

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RENTAL VEHICLES USED BY LAW

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ENFORCEMENT FOR ARRESTS,

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DETENTIONS OR TRANSPORTATION OF

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INDIVIDUALS TO DISPLAY

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TEMPORARY IDENTIFICATION

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SHOWING THE AGENCY OPERATING

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THE VEHICLE. AB 1650 PROVIDES A

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SIMPLE SAFEGUARD TO ENSURE THAT

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COMMUNITY MEMBERS CAN IDENTIFY

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THE AGENCY CONDUCTING AN

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ENFORCEMENT ACTION THAT CLARIFY

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THAT CLARITY CAN HELP REDUCE

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CONFUSION AND FEAR, WHILE

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PROMOTING GREATER

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ACCOUNTABILITY AND PUBLIC TRUST.

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THANK YOU, AND WE HOPE WE

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REQUEST YOUR VOTE ON AB 1650.

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THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. ANYONE

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ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT

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FOR AB 1650? PLEASE APPROACH

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THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR

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NAME, ORGANIZATION AND POSITION

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ON THE BILL. WE HAVE A LONG

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AGENDA SO PEOPLE CAN QUICKLY

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LINE UP. IF YOU WANT TO OFFER

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TESTIMONY, WE'D APPRECIATE IT.

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GOOD MORNING, ERIC HENDERSON ON

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BEHALF OF THE ELLA BAKER CENTER

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FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND PROUD

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SUPPORT. JOANNE SCHEER, FELONY

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MURDER ELIMINATION PROJECT IN

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SUPPORT. CWP AND STRONG SUPPORT.

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THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH.

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WE'LL NOW TAKE UP TO TWO

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PRINCIPAL WITNESSES IN

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OPPOSITION. GOOD MORNING, MR.

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CHAIR. AND MEMBERS, ON BEHALF

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OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE

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SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION HERE IN

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OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, UNLESS

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IT'S AMENDED TO EXEMPT LOCAL

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LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM THE BILL,

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THE BILL ACKNOWLEDGES. WE KNOW

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WHAT IT DOES. ACKNOWLEDGES,

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THOUGH, THAT ITS PROVISIONS

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WOULD CREATE A SECURITY PROBLEM

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THAT BURDENS LAW ENFORCEMENT

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AGENCIES AND ATTEMPTS TO

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ADDRESS THAT NOTION BY

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EXEMPTING SEVERAL SITUATIONS

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FROM THE BILL'S REACH.

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UNFORTUNATELY, THERE ARE OTHER

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SCENARIOS THAT ARE NOT EXCLUDED

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THAT CREATE PROBLEMS CARS USED

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BY LOCAL OFFICERS THAT ARE

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ENGAGED IN PLAINCLOTHES

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OPERATIONS. THE PLAINCLOTHES

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EXCEPTION RIGHT NOW DOES NOT

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APPLY TO ANYONE, BUT THE

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ENUMERATED STATE OFFICERS

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LISTED IN THE BILL. THERE ALSO

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MIGHT BE A CAR DRIVEN BY THE

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ELECTED SHERIFF HIMSELF OR

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HERSELF. OBVIOUSLY, THE

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INDICATIONS OF THIS BILL'S

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FOCUS ON FEDERAL IMMIGRATION

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AUTHORITIES AND THEIR PRACTICES,

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WHICH WE'RE NOT DEFENDING, AND

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THIS IS A NUMBER ONE OF A

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NUMBER OF BILLS THAT ATTEMPTS

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TO REGULATE FEDERAL PRACTICES

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AND AT THE SAME TIME IMPLICATE

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STATE AND LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT.

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AND AS WE'VE SEEN WITH BILLS

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ALREADY ENACTED DURING THIS

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SESSION, IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR

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COURTS TO ELIMINATE THOSE BILLS.

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APPLICATION TO FEDERAL ENTITIES,

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LEAVING THE MEASURES TO ONLY

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APPLY TO STATE AND LOCAL

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AGENCIES. SO AGAIN, WE GET LEFT

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HOLDING THE BAG FOR SOMETHING

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WE'RE NOT DOING AND FOR

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PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVEN'T

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CREATED. BILL DOESN'T APPLY TO

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LEASED VEHICLES. I'M NOT REALLY

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SURE WHY I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR

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SUCH. AND THEN THE

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INDEMNIFICATION PROVISIONS BY

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LAW ENFORCEMENT FOR THE RENTAL

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CAR COMPANIES ARE PROBLEMATIC

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FOR US TOO. SO FOR THOSE

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REASONS, WE ASK FOR A NO VOTE.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR

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MEMBERS. RANDY PERRY ON BEHALF

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OF PERAK, WE ALSO HAVE OPPOSED,

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UNLESS AMENDED, FOR MANY OF THE

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SAME REASONS THAT THE SHERIFFS

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TALKED ABOUT. WE APPRECIATE

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WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE

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AUTHOR'S OFFICE. WE HAVE A

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COUPLE MORE AMENDMENTS AND

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DEFINITIONS WE'RE SEEKING, SO

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WE'LL CONTINUE THAT WORK IF THE

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BILL MOVES. THANK YOU. THANK

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YOU SIR. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE

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ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

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OPPOSITION TO AB 1650? SEEING

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NO ONE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE,

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I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE

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COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR

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COMMENTS. VICE CHAIR, THANK YOU

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VERY MUCH. AND YEAH, I NEED TO

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EXPLORE A LITTLE BIT. OKAY. SO

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ON THE LOCAL AND STATE AGENCY

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SIDE, I UNDERSTAND THIS BILL IS

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REALLY, REALLY AIMED AT

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IMMIGRATION AND FEDERAL

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AUTHORITIES, BUT UNFORTUNATELY,

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YOU DRAG IN LOCAL AND STATE

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AGENCIES. THE OPPONENTS HAVE

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HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT. I'VE

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SEEN THIS IN ACTION. WHAT DO

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YOU WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN A

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DEPARTMENT AND THEIR. THEY HAVE

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GANG TASK FORCE. THEY HAVE DRUG

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TASK FORCE. THEY HAVE CHILD

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SMUGGLING TASK FORCE. THEY HAVE

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REGULAR SMUGGLING TASK FORCE.

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THEY HAVE PROSTITUTION TASK

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FORCE, ALL THESE DIFFERENT TASK

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FORCES. IF THEY HAVE A LABEL ON

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THEIR CAR, THEN THEY'RE

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INEFFECTIVE BECAUSE IT KIND OF

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GOES BACK TO IF PEOPLE KNOW

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THAT THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS

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WATCHING THEM, THEY'RE NOT

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GOING TO DO WHAT THEY'RE BEEN

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DOING. SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF

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AMENDMENTS, BUT I DON'T THINK

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YOUR AMENDMENTS CAN COVER

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EVERYTHING. SOMETIMES YOU, THE

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LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES, RENT

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DIFFERENT CARS SO THEY CAN

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SURVEIL. AND IF THEY'RE IN IN A

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NEIGHBORHOOD IN A CAR THAT

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LOOKS LIKE A POLICE CAR,

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THEY'RE IN DANGER. THEY CAN'T

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DO THEIR JOB. AND THAT CREATES

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A PUBLIC SAFETY RISK FOR ALL

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THE PEOPLE THAT ARE INVOLVED IN

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DOING THEIR JOB. SO HOW DO YOU

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HOW DO YOU PROPOSE TO COVER

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EVERY INSTANCE THAT A LAW

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ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, A LOCAL LAW

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ENFORCEMENT AGENCY WOULD HAVE

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WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THEIR

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JOB? AND SOMETIMES THOSE

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SURVEILLANCE TEAMS, THEY WIND

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UP HAVING TO ARREST SOMEBODY

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AND DETAIN THEM SO THEY DON'T

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GET AWAY. SO HOW DO YOU HOW ARE

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YOU GOING TO MANAGE THAT WITH

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THIS BILL? WELL, FIRST, THANK

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YOU SO MUCH, SENATOR, FOR YOUR

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THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS. I REALLY

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APPRECIATE IT. I KNOW YOU KNOW

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HOW THOUGHTFUL YOU ARE WHEN IT

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COMES TO JUST PUBLIC SAFETY

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ISSUES IN GENERAL. AND THANKS

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TO THE OPPOSITION. APPRECIATE

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YOUR YOUR COMMENTS HERE TODAY.

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YOU KNOW, I THINK FOR FOR US,

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YOU KNOW, THIS BILL IS ABOUT

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SECURING TRUST WITH THE

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COMMUNITY. IT'S ALSO ABOUT

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PROTECTING OUR ACTUAL LAW

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ENFORCEMENT WHO ARE OUT IN THE

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COMMUNITY. THIS IS ALREADY

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HAPPENING NOW. PEOPLE ARE

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SCARED TO DO ANYTHING. THIS

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FEAR IS COMPLETELY

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DESTABILIZING A LOT OF OUR

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NEIGHBORHOODS, BECAUSE A LOT OF

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THE UNMARKED VEHICLES THAT

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APPROACH MANY OF OUR CENTERS,

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ESPECIALLY DAY LABOR CENTERS

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LIKE HAVE IN MY DISTRICT,

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LITERALLY JUST GET SO SCARED

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WHEN ANY UNMARKED VEHICLE THAT

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LOOKS LIKE A GOVERNMENT OR LAW

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ENFORCEMENT CAR APPROACHES THEM.

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AND SO THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A

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BILL, NOT WHETHER OR NOT

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ENFORCEMENT HAPPENS, BUT HOW IT

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HAPPENS. IT'S A SIMPLE BILL. IT

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TELLS LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES

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TO PUT A DECAL OUTSIDE OF THEIR

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CARS. AND FOR THE INSTANCES

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THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU IDENTIFIED

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WITH THESE SPECIFIC TASK FORCES,

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WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE

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OPPOSITION ON MAKING SURE THAT,

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YOU KNOW, WE INCLUDE SOME OF

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THEIR CONCERNS IN THE DIFFERENT

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WAYS THAT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED AND

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THEY'VE IDENTIFIED. THEY'VE

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ONLY JUST SHARED SOME OF THOSE

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AMENDMENTS. SO WE'RE WORKING

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THROUGH THEM AND ARE COMMITTED

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TO TO MAKING SURE THAT WE DON'T

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COMPROMISE SOME OF THOSE

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OPERATIONS. AND AT THE SAME

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TIME, WHEN I'M OUT IN THE

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COMMUNITY DOING SOMETHING AS

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SIMPLE AS A 4TH OF JULY PARADE,

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WE SLAP A MAGNET DECAL ON MY

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CAR. IT'S NOT TOO MUCH TO ASK

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IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S

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ACTUALLY IMPEDING ENFORCEMENT,

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THEN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN

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BE REMOVED. BUT THOSE ARE

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ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO WORK

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THROUGH. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE

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THAT BOTH OUR STATE AND LOCAL

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LAW ENFORCEMENT ARE SAFE. BY

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NOT BEING CONFUSED FOR BEING

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ICE, AND THAT OUR COMMUNITIES,

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WHEN THESE CARS ARE IN THEIR

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COMMUNITY, THEY ACTUALLY KNOW

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WHO THEY ARE BECAUSE THIS IS

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BECOMING SUCH A COMMON PRACTICE.

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AS YOU HEARD FROM ONE OF MY

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WITNESSES, OPERATION TROJAN

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HORSE WAS SOMETHING THAT

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HAPPENED IN LOS ANGELES WHEN

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ICE RENTED A RENTAL CAR VEHICLE,

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WENT TO A DAY LABORER CENTER

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AND ACTED AS IF THEY WERE GOING

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TO HIRE THOSE WORKERS, ONLY TO

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POP OUT OF THE TRUCK. THIS IS

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BEING USED IN REALLY TERRIFYING

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WAYS. RIGHT NOW. I'M JUST

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EXPLORING THE LOCAL PART I'M

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TALKING ABOUT YOU HAVE TWO

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POLICE OFFICERS THAT ARE

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INVOLVED IN A GANG UNIT THING,

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AND SOMETIMES THOSE ARE NOT

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POLITE GANGS. WE'RE TALKING

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CARTEL PEOPLE AND STUFF LIKE

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THAT. YOU HAVE A MARKED CAR,

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THEY'RE SITTING THERE, THEY'RE

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GOING TO GET A BULLET IN THE

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HEAD BEFORE THEY CAN MOVE.

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THAT'S THE KIND OF STUFF THAT

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I'M CONCERNED ABOUT ON THE

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LOCAL LEVEL. WE HAVEN'T I

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HAVEN'T ASKED ANY QUESTIONS

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ABOUT THE FEDERAL PART YET

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BECAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE

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DIFFERENT ISSUE WITH THE

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FEDERAL THING. SO FROM THE

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LOCAL LEVEL, HOW DO YOU PROTECT

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THOSE OFFICERS? IF YOU'RE

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TELLING THEM THEY HAVE TO MARK

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THEIR CAR AND PUT PUT

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IDENTIFICATION ON THEIR CAR OF

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WHO THEY ARE BECAUSE. THE BAD

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PEOPLE WILL GET THEM, IF THAT'S

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WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO, AND

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THEN WE WON'T HAVE ANY, ANY LAW

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ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE IN

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NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DESPERATELY

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ARE TRYING TO HAVE SOME LAW

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ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE SO THAT

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THEY CAN BE SAFE, SO THAT THEY

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CAN WALK DOWN A STREET NOT

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CONTROLLED BY A CARTEL OR A

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GANG OR DRUG DEALERS OR

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PROSTITUTION RINGS. SO THAT'S,

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THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT THAT.

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SO, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT

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THERE'S A REALLY GOOD ANSWER

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FOR THAT. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO

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THE FEDERAL PART. THE SUPREMACY

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CLAUSE IS PROTECTED THIS OVER

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AND OVER AND OVER. AND MY

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CONCERN ABOUT YOUR FEDERAL

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APPROACH TO THIS IS THAT IT'S

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GOING TO COST US MONEY IN COURT

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TO DO SOMETHING WE ALREADY KNOW

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WE CANNOT DO. YES, IT IS A

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STATEMENT. IT IS A STATEMENT

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THAT WE DON'T LIKE YOUR TACTICS.

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IT IS A STATEMENT THAT WE WISH

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WE COULD DO THIS DIFFERENT. WE

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HAVE A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO

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IMMIGRATION. WHATEVER THAT

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STATEMENT IS, IT DOESN'T GET

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PASSED THE SUPREMACY CLAUSE.

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AND SO WE'RE REALLY JUST, LIKE

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I SAID, WE'RE JUST SPENDING

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MONEY THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE

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TO SEND A STATEMENT THAT'S

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ALREADY BEEN MADE. SO THOSE ARE

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THE PROBLEMS I HAVE WITH YOUR

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BILL. AND AND I'LL GIVE THIS

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BACK TO THE CHAIR. THANK YOU.

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WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I DO

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SUPPORT YOUR BILL. I HAVE AN

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EYE RECOMMENDATION. WHEN WE

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HAVE A QUORUM, I WILL ENTERTAIN

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A MOTION, THE BILL. BUT I WOULD

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ENCOURAGE YOU TO CONTINUE TO,

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YOU KNOW, WORK WITH OPPOSITION,

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PARTICULARLY AROUND THE ISSUES

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AROUND HOW IT IMPACT LOCAL LAW

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ENFORCEMENT AND MAKING SURE

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UNDERCOVER OPERATIONS AND

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SITUATIONS WHERE YOU WANT TO

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ENSURE THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN

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OPERATE SAFELY, THAT THOSE

00:24:10.248 --> 00:24:11.917
CONSIDERATIONS ARE BEING

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THOUGHT THROUGH. AND SO, YOU

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KNOW, THE NEXT STEP FOR THIS

00:24:15.787 --> 00:24:16.955
BILL, IF IT MOVES OUT TODAY, IS

00:24:17.022 --> 00:24:18.757
THE APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.

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AND DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOUR

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CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT WITH

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OPPOSITION. I KNOW THAT I THINK

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WE CAN LAND AND BUT I DO THINK

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THIS BILL ADDRESSES AN

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IMPORTANT ISSUE. AND IT DOES

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GET TO TRUST TRUST BETWEEN

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COMMUNITIES AND LAW ENFORCEMENT.

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SO BACK OVER TO CLOSE. THANK

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YOU SO MUCH, SENATOR AND

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SENATOR SATO, AS WELL FOR FOR

00:24:40.111 --> 00:24:41.146
YOUR THOUGHTFUL COMMENTS.

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REALLY APPRECIATE IT. IN CLOSE,

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I DON'T KNOW IF. DID YOU WANT

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TO SAY SOMETHING? YES. THANK

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YOU, SENATOR MEMBER. SO JUST TO

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ADDRESS THE CONCERNS, WE DON'T

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GO TO WITNESSES IN CLOSING

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STATEMENTS. HE WAS GOING TO

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RESPOND, BUT THAT'S OKAY. I

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MEAN, I'M JUST PROVIDING MY

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FEEDBACK TO THE AUTHOR. IF THIS

00:25:01.800 --> 00:25:03.268
BILL MOVES OUT TODAY, I SUPPORT

00:25:03.335 --> 00:25:04.836
THE BILL. I HAVE AN EYE

00:25:04.903 --> 00:25:05.704
RECOMMENDATION. OKAY. I KNOW

00:25:05.770 --> 00:25:07.572
YOU HAVE A LONG AGENDA. I'M

00:25:07.639 --> 00:25:08.640
ALWAYS TRYING TO BALANCE, YOU

00:25:08.707 --> 00:25:10.208
KNOW, ADDRESSING FEDERAL

00:25:10.275 --> 00:25:11.676
ENFORCEMENT WITH ALSO MAKING

00:25:11.743 --> 00:25:13.812
SURE THAT WE'RE ENSURING THAT

00:25:13.879 --> 00:25:15.280
LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT CAN BE

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DONE EFFECTIVELY. SO THANK YOU,

00:25:17.883 --> 00:25:19.217
SENATOR. THANK YOU. CHAIR, THIS

00:25:19.284 --> 00:25:22.721
BILL WAS THOUGHTFULLY CORRECT

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TO INCLUDE SOME OF THE CONCERNS

00:25:24.422 --> 00:25:25.790
THAT YOU HAVE. I KNOW THERE'S

00:25:25.857 --> 00:25:28.493
MORE WORK TO DO, INCLUDING

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EXEMPTIONS AND HOW WE CAN

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CONTINUE TO PARTNER AND WORK

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WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT. YOU KNOW,

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WE WROTE THIS BILL WITH THEM IN

00:25:35.033 --> 00:25:36.801
MIND. AND SO I JUST

00:25:36.868 --> 00:25:37.869
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE

00:25:37.936 --> 00:25:39.604
SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO PROTECT

00:25:39.671 --> 00:25:41.106
OUR COMMUNITIES. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE DON'T

00:25:42.574 --> 00:25:44.376
HAVE A QUORUM. ENTERTAIN A

00:25:44.442 --> 00:25:45.944
MOTION. WE HAVE A QUORUM. I

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WANT TO THANK THE WITNESSES FOR

00:25:47.245 --> 00:25:48.313
JOINING US TODAY. AND ONCE

00:25:48.380 --> 00:25:49.948
AGAIN, I HAVE AN EYE

00:25:50.015 --> 00:25:51.149
RECOMMENDATION ON THIS BILL.

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OKAY. IS. THERE'S A LOT OF

00:25:56.588 --> 00:25:58.023
AUTHORS WHO ARE HERE, BUT THERE

00:25:58.089 --> 00:25:59.491
WAS A CONVERSATION THAT

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HAPPENED AT THE BEGINNING OF

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THE HEARING TO LET THREE

00:26:02.027 --> 00:26:04.129
AUTHORS GO FIRST, BECAUSE THEIR

00:26:04.195 --> 00:26:06.197
SCHEDULE IMPACTS. AND SO WE'RE

00:26:06.264 --> 00:26:09.634
GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT. THANK

00:26:09.701 --> 00:26:10.969
YOU SO MUCH. AND I ACTUALLY

00:26:11.036 --> 00:26:12.804
WANT TO THANK ASSEMBLY MEMBER

00:26:12.871 --> 00:26:14.572
STEPHANIE AND BONTA, WHO BOTH

00:26:14.639 --> 00:26:16.641
AGREED, WHO ARE NEXT UP ON THE

00:26:16.708 --> 00:26:17.842
AGENDA. SO THANK YOU TO BOTH OF

00:26:17.909 --> 00:26:19.744
THEM AS WELL. AND THANK YOU,

00:26:19.811 --> 00:26:21.780
MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I'M

00:26:21.846 --> 00:26:25.016
PROUD TODAY TO PRESENT AB 1930,

00:26:25.083 --> 00:26:26.418
SPONSORED BY ATTORNEY GENERAL

00:26:26.484 --> 00:26:28.586
ROB BONTA AND EQUALITY

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CALIFORNIA, WHICH WILL DEFEND

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HEALTH CARE, ACCESS AND ENFORCE

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CALIFORNIA'S PROTECTED HEALTH

00:26:32.991 --> 00:26:34.993
ACTIVITY LAWS FOR ALL THOSE WHO

00:26:35.060 --> 00:26:36.528
PROVIDE AND RECEIVE CARE IN

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CALIFORNIA. CALIFORNIA HAS LONG

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BEEN A PLACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN

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ACCESS THE HEALTH CARE THEY

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NEED AND LIVE AUTHENTICALLY,

00:26:42.734 --> 00:26:44.469
SAFELY AND WITH DIGNITY. BUT

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ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WE'RE

00:26:45.270 --> 00:26:46.604
SEEING A COORDINATED EFFORT TO

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ROLL THAT BACK. EFFORTS TO

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INTIMIDATE PATIENTS, TO TARGET

00:26:50.976 --> 00:26:52.010
PROVIDERS, TO ATTACK ABORTION

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AND GENDER AFFIRMING CARE, CARE

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THAT SIMPLY ALLOWS PEOPLE TO

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LIVE AS WHO THEY TRULY ARE. AND

00:26:58.216 --> 00:26:59.551
WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE

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CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE EFFORTS

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RIGHT HERE IN CALIFORNIA. LAST

00:27:03.588 --> 00:27:04.956
YEAR, THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF

00:27:05.023 --> 00:27:06.391
JUSTICE ISSUED A SUBPOENA TO

00:27:06.458 --> 00:27:07.993
CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL LOS ANGELES

00:27:08.059 --> 00:27:09.995
SEEKING INFORMATION THAT COULD

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IDENTIFY THOUSANDS, LITERALLY

00:27:11.496 --> 00:27:13.198
THOUSANDS OF TRANSGENDER YOUTH

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RECEIVING CARE CARE THEY

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RECEIVE WITH THE SUPPORT OF

00:27:15.667 --> 00:27:17.469
THEIR FAMILIES AND OF AND WITH

00:27:17.535 --> 00:27:19.004
THE SUPPORT OF THEIR DOCTORS.

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THAT ACTION DIDN'T JUST RAISE

00:27:20.472 --> 00:27:21.873
ALARMS, IT HAD REAL

00:27:21.940 --> 00:27:23.408
CONSEQUENCES. IT PUT PRIVACY

00:27:23.475 --> 00:27:25.143
AND SAFETY AT RISK, AND IT

00:27:25.210 --> 00:27:26.478
CONTRIBUTED TO THE CLOSURE OF

00:27:26.544 --> 00:27:27.579
THE HOSPITAL CENTER FOR TRANS

00:27:27.645 --> 00:27:29.447
YOUTH HEALTH AND DEVELOPMENT,

00:27:29.514 --> 00:27:30.615
CUTTING OFF ACCESS TO CARE FOR

00:27:30.682 --> 00:27:32.717
YOUNG PEOPLE WHO NEED IT MOST.

00:27:32.784 --> 00:27:34.519
THAT'S JUST UNACCEPTABLE. NO

00:27:34.586 --> 00:27:36.254
ONE SHOULD HAVE TO FEAR THAT

00:27:36.321 --> 00:27:38.456
SEEKING LAWFUL MEDICAL CARE IN

00:27:38.523 --> 00:27:39.557
CALIFORNIA COULD PUT THEIR

00:27:39.624 --> 00:27:42.394
PRIVACY OR SAFETY AT RISK. AB

00:27:42.460 --> 00:27:44.896
1930 WILL PROTECT PATIENTS AND

00:27:44.963 --> 00:27:46.364
PROVIDERS BY REQUIRING BUSINESS

00:27:46.431 --> 00:27:48.166
ENTITIES IN CALIFORNIA TO

00:27:48.233 --> 00:27:49.234
NOTIFY THE OFFICE OF THE

00:27:49.300 --> 00:27:50.635
CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL IF

00:27:50.702 --> 00:27:52.070
THEY INTEND TO RESPOND TO A

00:27:52.137 --> 00:27:53.571
SUBPOENA REGARDING LEGALLY

00:27:53.638 --> 00:27:55.740
PROTECTED HEALTH CARE ACTIVITY.

00:27:55.807 --> 00:27:56.775
THIS BILL ALSO GIVES THE

00:27:56.841 --> 00:27:58.009
ATTORNEY GENERAL THE AUTHORITY

00:27:58.076 --> 00:28:00.011
TO INTERVENE AND COUNSEL THE

00:28:00.078 --> 00:28:01.479
ENTITY WHO RECEIVED THE

00:28:01.546 --> 00:28:02.914
SUBPOENA AND TO ENFORCE THE

00:28:02.981 --> 00:28:04.449
PROVISIONS OF THE BILL. LET'S

00:28:04.516 --> 00:28:06.451
BE CLEAR CALIFORNIA WILL NOT

00:28:06.518 --> 00:28:08.086
AND CANNOT BUCKLE UNDER THREATS

00:28:08.153 --> 00:28:10.121
MEANT TO INTIMIDATE OUR

00:28:10.188 --> 00:28:11.823
COMMUNITIES. WE ARE GOING TO

00:28:11.890 --> 00:28:12.957
STAND FIRM ON THE SIDE OF

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PATIENT PRIVACY, DIGNITY AND

00:28:15.226 --> 00:28:17.295
ACCESS TO CARE WE NEED. WE ARE

00:28:17.362 --> 00:28:19.130
GOING TO PROTECT OUR PROVIDERS,

00:28:19.197 --> 00:28:20.231
AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE

00:28:20.298 --> 00:28:21.800
THAT CALIFORNIA REMAINS A SAFE

00:28:21.866 --> 00:28:23.435
HAVEN FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT. MY

00:28:23.501 --> 00:28:24.803
OFFICE IS WORKING WITH THE

00:28:24.869 --> 00:28:25.603
HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION,

00:28:25.670 --> 00:28:27.005
CHILDREN'S HOSPITALS AND OTHER

00:28:27.072 --> 00:28:28.807
CONCERNED STAKEHOLDERS ON SOME

00:28:28.873 --> 00:28:29.808
AMENDMENTS THAT WILL ADDRESS

00:28:29.874 --> 00:28:30.608
THEIR CONCERNS WHILE

00:28:30.675 --> 00:28:31.709
MAINTAINING THE INTEGRITY OF

00:28:31.776 --> 00:28:33.344
THIS BILL, BECAUSE WE HAVE RUN

00:28:33.411 --> 00:28:35.180
OUT OF TIME IN THE POLICY

00:28:35.246 --> 00:28:36.181
COMMITTEES, THOSE WILL BE

00:28:36.247 --> 00:28:38.550
FINALIZED OVER THE RECESS, IN

00:28:38.616 --> 00:28:39.250
CONSULTATION WITH YOUR

00:28:39.317 --> 00:28:40.351
COMMITTEE AND WITH THE

00:28:40.418 --> 00:28:41.820
JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. AND WE'VE

00:28:41.886 --> 00:28:43.254
SPOKEN TO SENATOR UMBERG ABOUT

00:28:43.321 --> 00:28:44.689
THAT, AND WE WILL WE WILL BE

00:28:44.756 --> 00:28:45.557
TAKING THOSE ADDITIONAL

00:28:45.623 --> 00:28:46.458
AMENDMENTS DURING THE

00:28:46.524 --> 00:28:47.592
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE.

00:28:47.659 --> 00:28:48.793
MEMBERS, I ASK FOR A VOTE AT

00:28:48.860 --> 00:28:50.595
THE APPROPRIATE TIME WITH ME

00:28:50.662 --> 00:28:51.729
TODAY IN SUPPORT OF THE BILL

00:28:51.796 --> 00:28:53.565
ARE ALICE KESSLER ON BEHALF OF

00:28:53.631 --> 00:28:55.133
CAL EQUALITY CALIFORNIA, AND

00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:56.534
TIFFANY BROKAW, DEPUTY ATTORNEY

00:28:56.601 --> 00:28:57.635
GENERAL IN THE OFFICE OF

00:28:57.702 --> 00:28:59.404
LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS. ALSO, WE

00:28:59.471 --> 00:29:00.605
HAVE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL

00:29:00.672 --> 00:29:02.373
DAVID HUSKA WHO WILL BE

00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.109
AVAILABLE TO ANSWER TECHNICAL

00:29:04.175 --> 00:29:05.910
QUESTIONS. GREAT. GOOD MORNING.

00:29:05.977 --> 00:29:07.712
GOOD MORNING, AND YOU MAY

00:29:07.779 --> 00:29:09.514
PROCEED. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR

00:29:09.581 --> 00:29:10.582
AND MEMBERS. GOOD MORNING,

00:29:10.648 --> 00:29:11.683
ALICE KESSLER. I'M HERE ON

00:29:11.749 --> 00:29:13.084
BEHALF OF EQUALITY CALIFORNIA.

00:29:13.151 --> 00:29:14.919
WE ARE CO-SPONSOR OF THE BILL.

00:29:14.986 --> 00:29:17.422
WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

00:29:17.489 --> 00:29:19.424
I WANT YOU JUST FOR A SECOND TO

00:29:19.491 --> 00:29:20.625
PUT YOUR SHOES. PUT YOURSELF IN

00:29:20.692 --> 00:29:22.460
THE SHOES OF SOMEONE WHO

00:29:22.527 --> 00:29:24.262
DOESN'T EVEN KNOW THAT THEIR

00:29:24.329 --> 00:29:26.097
PERSONAL MEDICAL RECORDS ARE

00:29:26.164 --> 00:29:28.199
BEING RELEASED TO A POTENTIALLY

00:29:28.266 --> 00:29:30.034
HOSTILE OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT.

00:29:30.101 --> 00:29:31.469
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

00:29:31.536 --> 00:29:34.339
HERE. THIS BILL IS ABOUT GIVING

00:29:34.405 --> 00:29:36.875
THOSE PATIENTS NOTICE. IT'S A

00:29:36.941 --> 00:29:38.676
PROCEDURAL SAFEGUARD SO THAT

00:29:38.743 --> 00:29:40.078
BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, THEY AT

00:29:40.145 --> 00:29:41.913
LEAST HAVE SOME NOTICE OF THAT.

00:29:41.980 --> 00:29:43.715
IT ALSO IS GIVING THE ATTORNEY

00:29:43.781 --> 00:29:46.584
GENERAL SOME TOOLS TO INTERVENE,

00:29:46.651 --> 00:29:48.052
BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE TALKING

00:29:48.119 --> 00:29:50.155
ABOUT PATIENTS SEEKING LAWFUL

00:29:50.221 --> 00:29:52.824
HEALTH CARE IN CALIFORNIA AND,

00:29:52.891 --> 00:29:54.526
AND WORRYING FOR THEIR THEIR

00:29:54.592 --> 00:29:55.593
PRIVACY AND THEIR SAFETY. IN

00:29:55.660 --> 00:29:57.729
THE COURSE OF DOING THAT, THE

00:29:57.795 --> 00:30:00.265
ASSEMBLY MEMBER ARTICULATED THE

00:30:00.331 --> 00:30:02.433
CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN OUR

00:30:02.500 --> 00:30:04.302
COMMUNITY IS UNDER ATTACK. NO,

00:30:04.369 --> 00:30:05.703
NO TWO WAYS ABOUT IT. WE'RE

00:30:05.770 --> 00:30:07.205
UNDER ATTACK. THAT'S PLAYING

00:30:07.272 --> 00:30:09.274
OUT ON MULTIPLE LEVELS, PLAYING

00:30:09.340 --> 00:30:11.075
OUT IN THE U.S. SUPREME COURT.

00:30:11.142 --> 00:30:12.944
THIS BILL IS ABOUT PROTECTING

00:30:13.011 --> 00:30:13.945
LAWFUL HEALTH CARE IN

00:30:14.012 --> 00:30:15.146
CALIFORNIA AND TAKING A STAND.

00:30:15.213 --> 00:30:17.182
AND SO WE WE ASK THE COMMITTEE

00:30:17.248 --> 00:30:20.051
TO SUPPORT THIS, AND WE

00:30:20.118 --> 00:30:21.119
APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE

00:30:21.186 --> 00:30:22.587
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE IN

00:30:22.654 --> 00:30:24.055
CRAFTING GOOD POLICY HERE.

00:30:24.122 --> 00:30:25.690
WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AND

00:30:25.757 --> 00:30:26.958
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION. SO I

00:30:27.025 --> 00:30:28.660
WOULD ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK

00:30:28.726 --> 00:30:29.794
YOU. HI. GOOD MORNING. GOOD

00:30:29.861 --> 00:30:30.828
MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS.

00:30:30.895 --> 00:30:32.330
TIFFANY BROKAW, DEPUTY ATTORNEY

00:30:32.397 --> 00:30:33.765
GENERAL IN THE OFFICE OF

00:30:33.831 --> 00:30:34.832
LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS HERE ON

00:30:34.899 --> 00:30:36.301
BEHALF OF ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB

00:30:36.367 --> 00:30:37.468
BONTA. AND HE'D LIKE TO THANK

00:30:37.535 --> 00:30:38.369
ASSEMBLYMEMBER BURR FOR

00:30:38.436 --> 00:30:39.404
CARRYING THIS IMPORTANT PIECE

00:30:39.470 --> 00:30:42.006
OF LEGISLATION. AB 1930

00:30:42.073 --> 00:30:43.107
STRENGTHENS PROTECTIONS FOR

00:30:43.174 --> 00:30:44.576
PATIENTS RECEIVING REPRODUCTIVE

00:30:44.642 --> 00:30:45.777
CARE, AS WELL AS THE PROVIDERS

00:30:45.843 --> 00:30:47.745
THAT SERVE THEM. IT REQUIRES

00:30:47.812 --> 00:30:49.214
CERTAIN CALIFORNIA BUSINESS

00:30:49.280 --> 00:30:50.348
ENTITIES TO NOTIFY THE

00:30:50.415 --> 00:30:51.749
CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL

00:30:51.816 --> 00:30:53.218
BEFORE RESPONDING TO A

00:30:53.284 --> 00:30:54.986
SPECIFIED REQUEST FOR

00:30:55.053 --> 00:30:56.421
INFORMATION RELATED TO ABORTION

00:30:56.487 --> 00:30:58.623
OR GENDER AFFIRMING CARE. IT.

00:30:58.690 --> 00:31:01.125
IT ALSO AUTHORIZES THE AG TO

00:31:01.192 --> 00:31:02.227
INTERVENE TO PREVENT THE

00:31:02.293 --> 00:31:03.294
IMPROPER DISCLOSURES FROM

00:31:03.361 --> 00:31:05.063
HAPPENING IN THE FIRST PLACE.

00:31:05.129 --> 00:31:06.531
RECENT ACTIONS BY FEDERAL AND

00:31:06.598 --> 00:31:07.599
OUT-OF-STATE OFFICIALS HAVE

00:31:07.665 --> 00:31:09.567
RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT ATTEMPTS

00:31:09.634 --> 00:31:11.569
TO OBTAIN PRIVATE MEDICAL

00:31:11.636 --> 00:31:13.004
INFORMATION OR PROSECUTE

00:31:13.071 --> 00:31:14.038
INDIVIDUALS INVOLVED IN

00:31:14.105 --> 00:31:15.506
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE

00:31:15.573 --> 00:31:17.342
WITHOUT STRONG SAFEGUARDS,

00:31:17.408 --> 00:31:19.143
SUBPOENAS, INVESTIGATIONS AND

00:31:19.210 --> 00:31:21.012
OTHER LEGAL DEMANDS MAY BE USED

00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.081
TO CIRCUMVENT CALIFORNIA LAW

00:31:23.147 --> 00:31:24.549
AND UNDERMINE THE RIGHTS OF

00:31:24.616 --> 00:31:27.018
PATIENTS AND PROVIDERS. AB 1930

00:31:27.085 --> 00:31:28.486
PROVIDES OUR OFFICE THE

00:31:28.553 --> 00:31:29.921
OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVENE AND

00:31:29.988 --> 00:31:31.756
PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING, IN

00:31:31.823 --> 00:31:33.157
ORDER TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF

00:31:33.224 --> 00:31:34.259
PATIENTS AND PROVIDERS. AND FOR

00:31:34.325 --> 00:31:35.693
THESE REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY

00:31:35.760 --> 00:31:37.328
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU

00:31:37.395 --> 00:31:38.529
VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE

00:31:38.596 --> 00:31:39.998
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR

00:31:40.064 --> 00:31:43.868
AB? 1930? PLEASE STATE YOUR

00:31:43.935 --> 00:31:44.836
NAME, ORGANIZATION AND POSITION

00:31:44.902 --> 00:31:46.838
ON THE BILL. KIM STONE, ON

00:31:46.904 --> 00:31:47.972
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

00:31:48.039 --> 00:31:49.374
CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL ASSOCIATION.

00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:50.808
KIND OF A TWEENER, BUT VERY

00:31:50.875 --> 00:31:53.311
GRATEFUL FOR THE AUTHOR AND THE

00:31:53.378 --> 00:31:56.648
SPONSORS COMMUNICATIONS AND AND

00:31:56.714 --> 00:31:57.849
WORKING WITH US. AND THANK YOU.

00:31:57.915 --> 00:32:01.953
BYE BYE. AUBRY RODRIGUEZ

00:32:02.020 --> 00:32:02.687
REGISTERING SUPPORT FOR

00:32:02.754 --> 00:32:04.455
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION

00:32:04.522 --> 00:32:08.426
AND OAKLAND PRIVACY. THANK YOU.

00:32:08.493 --> 00:32:09.994
MARTIN RADOSEVICH ON BEHALF OF

00:32:10.061 --> 00:32:10.962
REPRODUCTIVE FREEDOM FOR ALL

00:32:11.029 --> 00:32:14.198
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. RYAN

00:32:14.265 --> 00:32:15.967
MOORE ON BEHALF OF THE LOS

00:32:16.034 --> 00:32:17.435
ANGELES COUNTY AND SUPPORT.

00:32:17.502 --> 00:32:19.370
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UNLESS

00:32:19.437 --> 00:32:20.405
THERE ANY OTHER SUPPORT,

00:32:20.471 --> 00:32:21.439
WITNESSES WILL NOW TAKE UP TO

00:32:21.506 --> 00:32:24.075
TWO PRINCIPAL OPPOSITION

00:32:24.142 --> 00:32:40.825
WITNESSES. ROCHELLE CONNOR,

00:32:40.892 --> 00:32:41.959
LEGISLATIVE LIAISON, CONCERNED

00:32:42.026 --> 00:32:45.129
WOMEN FOR AMERICA AB 1930

00:32:45.196 --> 00:32:46.197
UNDERMINES THE RIGHTS OF

00:32:46.264 --> 00:32:48.399
VICTIMS SEEKING JUSTICE AND

00:32:48.466 --> 00:32:49.834
RESTITUTION. IT ALLOWS THOSE

00:32:49.901 --> 00:32:52.337
WHO HAVE CAUSED BODILY INJURY

00:32:52.403 --> 00:32:54.872
AND HARM TO AVOID PROSECUTION.

00:32:54.939 --> 00:32:56.674
THIS BILL IMPEDES LAW

00:32:56.741 --> 00:32:58.142
ENFORCEMENT'S ABILITY TO

00:32:58.209 --> 00:32:59.944
INVESTIGATE SERIOUS CRIMES

00:33:00.011 --> 00:33:01.713
INVOLVING MINORS. THESE

00:33:01.779 --> 00:33:03.181
IMPEDIMENTS CAN DELAY OR

00:33:03.247 --> 00:33:05.016
OBSTRUCT JUSTICE FOR THE

00:33:05.083 --> 00:33:06.417
VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

00:33:06.484 --> 00:33:08.152
THIS BILL WILL CREATE A

00:33:08.219 --> 00:33:09.987
LABYRINTH OF CONFUSING

00:33:10.054 --> 00:33:11.789
REQUIREMENTS AND MANDATES FOR

00:33:11.856 --> 00:33:13.224
BUSINESSES. IT INTERFERES WITH

00:33:13.291 --> 00:33:15.059
LEGALLY ESTABLISHED PROCESSES

00:33:15.126 --> 00:33:17.195
AND FORCES BUSINESSES TO CHOOSE

00:33:17.261 --> 00:33:18.329
BETWEEN COMPLYING WITH

00:33:18.396 --> 00:33:20.431
CALIFORNIA STATE STATUTE OR

00:33:20.498 --> 00:33:24.769
OBEYING BY FEDERAL LAW. AB 1930

00:33:24.836 --> 00:33:26.204
RAISES SIGNIFICANT

00:33:26.270 --> 00:33:27.638
CONSTITUTIONAL CONCERNS. IT

00:33:27.705 --> 00:33:29.107
LAYS THE GROUNDWORK FOR

00:33:29.173 --> 00:33:30.675
POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS OF FEDERAL

00:33:30.742 --> 00:33:35.179
LAW. 18 U.S.C. SECTION 133182

00:33:35.246 --> 00:33:37.014
AND ARTICLE FOUR, SECTION TWO,

00:33:37.081 --> 00:33:39.117
CLAUSE TWO OF THE U.S.

00:33:39.183 --> 00:33:40.952
CONSTITUTION, WHICH STATES A

00:33:41.018 --> 00:33:43.121
PERSON CHARGED IN ANY STATE

00:33:43.187 --> 00:33:45.289
WITH TREASON, FELONY, OR OTHER

00:33:45.356 --> 00:33:47.492
CRIME WHO SHALL FLEE FROM

00:33:47.558 --> 00:33:49.227
JUSTICE AND BE FOUND IN ANOTHER

00:33:49.293 --> 00:33:51.028
STATE, SHALL ON DEMAND OF THE

00:33:51.095 --> 00:33:52.864
EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY OF THE

00:33:52.930 --> 00:33:54.966
STATE FROM WHICH THEY FLED, BE

00:33:55.032 --> 00:33:56.868
DELIVERED UP TO BE REMOVED TO

00:33:56.934 --> 00:33:58.870
THE STATE, HAVING JURISDICTION

00:33:58.936 --> 00:34:01.839
OF THE CRIME. THE BROAD

00:34:01.906 --> 00:34:04.008
JURISDICTIONAL REACH OF AB 1930

00:34:04.075 --> 00:34:06.177
SEEKS TO INVALIDATE LEGAL

00:34:06.244 --> 00:34:07.945
PROCESSES, VIOLATE THE

00:34:08.012 --> 00:34:09.580
CONSTITUTION, HARBOR CRIMINALS

00:34:09.647 --> 00:34:11.449
AND DENY JUSTICE TO THE VICTIMS

00:34:11.516 --> 00:34:13.384
AND THEIR FAMILIES. WE

00:34:13.451 --> 00:34:14.786
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A NO VOTE.

00:34:14.852 --> 00:34:15.920
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE

00:34:15.987 --> 00:34:17.688
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

00:34:17.755 --> 00:34:20.892
OPPOSITION TO AB 1930? GOOD

00:34:20.958 --> 00:34:21.959
MORNING. CHRIS SCHULTZ WITH THE

00:34:22.026 --> 00:34:23.294
CALIFORNIA BANKERS ASSOCIATION.

00:34:23.361 --> 00:34:24.095
WE CONTINUE WORKING

00:34:24.162 --> 00:34:25.263
PRODUCTIVELY WITH THE AUTHOR

00:34:25.329 --> 00:34:26.497
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE

00:34:26.564 --> 00:34:28.332
ON THE BILL, BUT DID JUST WANT

00:34:28.399 --> 00:34:29.600
TO TAKE A MINUTE TO EXPLAIN THE

00:34:29.667 --> 00:34:31.335
BURDEN. IF YOU'RE A BUSINESS

00:34:31.402 --> 00:34:32.603
AND YOU RECEIVE A SUBPOENA OR A

00:34:32.670 --> 00:34:34.372
REQUEST FROM ANY PARTY, NOT

00:34:34.439 --> 00:34:35.406
JUST A GOVERNMENT PARTY, YOU

00:34:35.473 --> 00:34:37.341
WILL NEED TO GO BACK TO THAT

00:34:37.408 --> 00:34:38.476
PARTY AND SAY, HEY, IS THIS

00:34:38.543 --> 00:34:39.644
ABOUT LEGALLY PROTECTED HEALTH

00:34:39.710 --> 00:34:40.611
CARE ACTIVITY? IT TURNS EVERY

00:34:40.678 --> 00:34:41.612
DOCUMENT REQUEST, EVERY

00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:42.613
SUBPOENA INTO A THREE STEP

00:34:42.680 --> 00:34:44.348
PROCESS BACK AND FORTH. THERE'S

00:34:44.415 --> 00:34:45.616
GOING TO BE ONE BANK RECEIVES A

00:34:45.683 --> 00:34:47.418
MILLION SUBPOENAS A YEAR. A LOT

00:34:47.485 --> 00:34:48.653
OF THESE ARE ABOUT REAL ESTATE

00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:50.788
TRANSACTIONS, BANKRUPTCIES,

00:34:50.855 --> 00:34:52.256
DIVORCES. IT TURNS EVERY

00:34:52.323 --> 00:34:53.357
DOCUMENT REQUEST INTO A BACK

00:34:53.424 --> 00:34:55.126
AND FORTH THAT PLACES A PRETTY

00:34:55.193 --> 00:34:56.127
BIG OBLIGATION ON ON THE

00:34:56.194 --> 00:34:57.962
PRIVATE SECTOR IN ORDER TO TRY

00:34:58.029 --> 00:35:00.064
TO FIND THESE SUBPOENAS THAT

00:35:00.131 --> 00:35:01.265
ARE ACTUALLY ARE ABOUT LEGALLY

00:35:01.332 --> 00:35:02.533
PROTECTED HEALTH CARE ACTIVITY.

00:35:02.600 --> 00:35:03.434
WE CONTINUE WORKING

00:35:03.501 --> 00:35:04.268
PRODUCTIVELY WITH THE AUTHOR

00:35:04.335 --> 00:35:05.870
AND SPONSOR, BUT JUST WANT TO

00:35:05.937 --> 00:35:07.138
FLAG THAT FOR THE RECORD. THANK

00:35:07.205 --> 00:35:08.105
YOU. YOU'RE THE SECOND

00:35:08.172 --> 00:35:09.907
PRINCIPAL OPPOSITION WITNESSES,

00:35:09.974 --> 00:35:10.942
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS, NAME,

00:35:11.008 --> 00:35:11.876
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ON

00:35:11.943 --> 00:35:13.845
THE BILL? MATTHEW WARD, OUR

00:35:13.911 --> 00:35:15.646
DUTY. OPPOSED. THANK YOU, THANK

00:35:15.713 --> 00:35:16.848
YOU. SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME

00:35:16.914 --> 00:35:18.449
FORWARD, BRING IT BACK TO THE

00:35:18.516 --> 00:35:19.984
DAIS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

00:35:20.051 --> 00:35:21.519
IF NOT, WE DO NOT YET HAVE A

00:35:21.586 --> 00:35:22.820
QUORUM. SENATOR, BACK OVER TO

00:35:22.887 --> 00:35:24.655
CLOSE. THANK YOU AGAIN. I JUST

00:35:24.722 --> 00:35:26.824
WANT TO THANK OUR OUR OUR

00:35:26.891 --> 00:35:28.259
SPONSORS, EQUALITY CALIFORNIA

00:35:28.326 --> 00:35:30.061
AND ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB BONTA,

00:35:30.127 --> 00:35:32.230
FOR THEIR CLOSE FOR THEIR WORK

00:35:32.296 --> 00:35:33.397
ON THIS. AGAIN, WE WILL HAVE

00:35:33.464 --> 00:35:34.732
SOME ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS,

00:35:34.799 --> 00:35:35.833
WHICH WE'LL DO THROUGH

00:35:35.900 --> 00:35:36.868
APPROPRIATIONS COMMITTEE,

00:35:36.934 --> 00:35:37.568
WORKING CAREFULLY WITH THE

00:35:37.635 --> 00:35:38.569
ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE TO

00:35:38.636 --> 00:35:39.804
MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS

00:35:39.871 --> 00:35:40.838
SOMETHING THAT IS LEGALLY SOUND

00:35:40.905 --> 00:35:42.707
AND THAT IS GOING TO PROTECT

00:35:42.773 --> 00:35:43.774
OUR PATIENTS AND OUR PROVIDERS

00:35:43.841 --> 00:35:44.876
HERE IN CALIFORNIA. SO WITH

00:35:44.942 --> 00:35:46.544
THAT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR

00:35:46.611 --> 00:35:47.812
AND I VOTE AT THE APPROPRIATE

00:35:47.879 --> 00:35:49.547
TIME. THANK YOU. AND WE ARE

00:35:49.614 --> 00:35:50.581
TAKING THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE

00:35:50.648 --> 00:35:51.549
AMENDMENTS IN OUR COMMITTEE,

00:35:51.616 --> 00:35:52.617
WHICH APPLY THE PROVISIONS OF

00:35:52.683 --> 00:35:53.851
THE BILL ONLY WHEN ABORTION OR

00:35:53.918 --> 00:35:54.919
GENDER AFFIRMING HEALTH CARE

00:35:54.986 --> 00:35:56.187
SERVICES ARE LEGALLY PROTECTED.

00:35:56.254 --> 00:35:57.188
HEALTH CARE ACTIVITIES SECURED

00:35:57.255 --> 00:35:58.856
BY THE CONSTITUTION OR LAWS OF

00:35:58.923 --> 00:36:00.658
CALIFORNIA. SO YES, OF COURSE I

00:36:00.725 --> 00:36:02.093
ACCEPT THOSE. THANK YOU. YES.

00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:02.960
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY.

00:36:03.027 --> 00:36:04.762
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.

00:36:04.829 --> 00:36:06.364
WE'LL GO NEXT TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER

00:36:06.430 --> 00:36:18.976
STEPHANIE AND THEN BONTA. HI.

00:36:19.043 --> 00:36:21.679
GOOD MORNING. AND WHICH BILL

00:36:21.746 --> 00:36:23.347
WOULD YOU LIKE TO START WITH

00:36:23.414 --> 00:36:25.650
FOR 58 OR 11? YES, FOR. OKAY.

00:36:25.716 --> 00:36:28.019
WE'RE GOING TO START WITH AB

00:36:28.085 --> 00:36:29.186
458. ARE THERE ANY PRINCIPAL

00:36:29.253 --> 00:36:30.087
WITNESSES? YOU'RE WELCOME TO

00:36:30.154 --> 00:36:32.456
JOIN US HERE. THANK YOU. THANK

00:36:32.523 --> 00:36:33.658
YOU, CHAIR AND MEMBERS, I WANT

00:36:33.724 --> 00:36:35.560
TO START OFF BY LETTING THIS

00:36:35.626 --> 00:36:36.561
COMMITTEE KNOW I ACCEPT THE

00:36:36.627 --> 00:36:37.528
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. SO THANK

00:36:37.595 --> 00:36:38.829
YOU FOR THAT. TODAY I'M

00:36:38.896 --> 00:36:41.365
PRESENTING A B 458, THE FIREARM

00:36:41.432 --> 00:36:42.767
PROCUREMENT ACT. A FEW YEARS

00:36:42.833 --> 00:36:44.201
AGO, I READ A REPORT FROM THE

00:36:44.268 --> 00:36:45.269
BRADY CAMPAIGN THAT QUITE

00:36:45.336 --> 00:36:46.771
FRANKLY, SHOCKED ME. IT FOUND

00:36:46.837 --> 00:36:47.838
THAT MORE THAN 90 LAW

00:36:47.905 --> 00:36:49.574
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ACROSS

00:36:49.640 --> 00:36:51.442
CALIFORNIA HAD PURCHASED

00:36:51.509 --> 00:36:53.511
FIREARMS AND EQUIPMENT FROM GUN

00:36:53.578 --> 00:36:54.979
DEALERS THAT HAD REPEATEDLY

00:36:55.046 --> 00:36:56.881
VIOLATED FEDERAL GUN LAWS, AND

00:36:56.948 --> 00:36:58.583
THIS INCLUDES NOT PERFORMING

00:36:58.649 --> 00:36:59.684
BACKGROUND CHECKS, SELLING TO

00:36:59.750 --> 00:37:01.485
STRAW PURCHASERS, NOT KEEPING

00:37:01.552 --> 00:37:03.254
NECESSARY PAPERWORK ON FILE

00:37:03.321 --> 00:37:04.755
THAT OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT NEEDS

00:37:04.822 --> 00:37:07.959
TO TRACK THOSE THAT WOULD

00:37:08.025 --> 00:37:10.127
TRAFFIC IN GUNS. AND THESE

00:37:10.194 --> 00:37:11.562
WEREN'T JUST TECHNICAL

00:37:11.629 --> 00:37:14.098
PAPERWORK MISTAKES. THEY WERE

00:37:14.165 --> 00:37:16.968
MISTAKES THAT CREATED A LOT OF

00:37:17.034 --> 00:37:17.969
SITUATIONS THAT WERE DANGEROUS

00:37:18.035 --> 00:37:20.237
FOR PUBLIC SAFETY. YET TAXPAYER

00:37:20.304 --> 00:37:21.639
DOLLARS CONTINUE TO FLOW TO

00:37:21.706 --> 00:37:23.741
THESE BAD ACTORS. WHEN I WAS

00:37:23.808 --> 00:37:24.909
SERVING ON THE SAN FRANCISCO

00:37:24.976 --> 00:37:25.776
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I

00:37:25.843 --> 00:37:26.978
BELIEVED WE COULD DO BETTER AND

00:37:27.044 --> 00:37:28.746
ACTUALLY PASSED A LAW THERE

00:37:28.813 --> 00:37:30.281
THAT MADE SURE SAN FRANCISCO'S

00:37:30.348 --> 00:37:32.450
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES WERE

00:37:32.516 --> 00:37:34.619
PURCHASING FIREARMS ONLY FROM

00:37:34.685 --> 00:37:36.053
RESPONSIBLE VENDORS THAT FOLLOW

00:37:36.120 --> 00:37:38.289
FEDERAL LAW. AND BECAUSE THIS

00:37:38.356 --> 00:37:40.024
IS A REALLY SIMPLE PRINCIPLE, I

00:37:40.091 --> 00:37:41.826
BELIEVE TAXPAYER DOLLARS SHOULD

00:37:41.892 --> 00:37:43.961
REWARD RESPONSIBLE BUSINESSES,

00:37:44.028 --> 00:37:45.396
NOT THOSE WITH A HISTORY OF

00:37:45.463 --> 00:37:46.631
BREAKING THE VERY LAWS DESIGNED

00:37:46.697 --> 00:37:49.033
TO KEEP GUNS OUT OF THE WRONG

00:37:49.100 --> 00:37:50.468
HANDS. A B FOUR FIVE, EIGHT

00:37:50.534 --> 00:37:51.902
BRINGS THAT SAME COMMON SENSE

00:37:51.969 --> 00:37:53.437
APPROACH TO THE STATE. EACH

00:37:53.504 --> 00:37:55.106
YEAR, CALIFORNIA SPENDS

00:37:55.172 --> 00:37:57.274
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS PURCHASING

00:37:57.341 --> 00:37:58.376
FIREARMS, AMMUNITION, AND

00:37:58.442 --> 00:37:59.810
FIREARM ACCESSORIES FOR STATE

00:37:59.877 --> 00:38:01.679
LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES. YET

00:38:01.746 --> 00:38:03.414
TODAY, THERE IS NO STATEWIDE

00:38:03.481 --> 00:38:05.583
FRAMEWORK TO HELP AGENCIES

00:38:05.650 --> 00:38:06.784
EVALUATE WHETHER THE VENDORS

00:38:06.851 --> 00:38:08.786
THEY BUY FROM HAVE A HISTORY OF

00:38:08.853 --> 00:38:10.621
COMPLYING WITH FIREARM LAWS OR

00:38:10.688 --> 00:38:11.689
ENGAGING IN RESPONSIBLE

00:38:11.756 --> 00:38:13.524
BUSINESS PRACTICES. THIS BILL

00:38:13.591 --> 00:38:15.526
DOESN'T GO AS FAR AS I WANT IT

00:38:15.593 --> 00:38:16.761
TO, BUT IT DOES SOMETHING. IT

00:38:16.827 --> 00:38:17.828
DIRECTS THE DEPARTMENT OF

00:38:17.895 --> 00:38:19.196
GENERAL SERVICES, IN

00:38:19.263 --> 00:38:19.930
CONSULTATION WITH THE

00:38:19.997 --> 00:38:21.766
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, TO

00:38:21.832 --> 00:38:23.200
DEVELOP MODEL PROCUREMENT

00:38:23.267 --> 00:38:24.268
GUIDELINES SO THAT STATE

00:38:24.335 --> 00:38:25.703
AGENCIES HAVE THE TOOLS THEY

00:38:25.770 --> 00:38:27.538
NEED TO MAKE INFORMED

00:38:27.605 --> 00:38:28.973
PURCHASING DECISIONS. WHEN THE

00:38:29.040 --> 00:38:30.741
STATE OF CALIFORNIA PURCHASES

00:38:30.808 --> 00:38:32.910
FIREARMS WITH TAXPAYER DOLLARS,

00:38:32.977 --> 00:38:34.679
WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO

00:38:34.745 --> 00:38:36.480
ENSURE THOSE DOLLARS NEVER END

00:38:36.547 --> 00:38:37.982
UP IN THE HANDS OF FIREARM

00:38:38.049 --> 00:38:39.383
DEALERS WITH A HISTORY OF

00:38:39.450 --> 00:38:40.851
BREAKING THE LAW. AND TODAY, I

00:38:40.918 --> 00:38:42.687
AM JOINED BY JONATHAN FELDMAN

00:38:42.753 --> 00:38:43.888
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

00:38:43.954 --> 00:38:45.890
POLICE CHIEFS ASSOCIATION AND

00:38:45.956 --> 00:38:47.224
DYLAN ELLIOTT ON BEHALF OF THE

00:38:47.291 --> 00:38:48.426
SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF

00:38:48.492 --> 00:38:50.294
SUPERVISORS. GOOD MORNING. YOU

00:38:50.361 --> 00:38:51.696
HAVE TWO MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE

00:38:51.762 --> 00:38:52.730
COMMITTEE. YEP. MORNING, CHAIR

00:38:52.797 --> 00:38:53.764
MEMBERS JONATHAN FELDMAN WITH

00:38:53.831 --> 00:38:54.899
THE CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS

00:38:54.965 --> 00:38:56.333
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT OF

00:38:56.400 --> 00:38:57.802
ASSEMBLY BILL 458. WE DO

00:38:57.868 --> 00:38:59.036
BELIEVE THAT THE STATE, COMING

00:38:59.103 --> 00:39:00.638
UP WITH GUIDELINES AND

00:39:00.705 --> 00:39:01.505
IDENTIFYING RESPONSIBLE VENDORS

00:39:01.572 --> 00:39:02.707
WILL HELP THE LOCALS MAKING

00:39:02.773 --> 00:39:03.708
THEIR DECISIONS AS WELL,

00:39:03.774 --> 00:39:04.909
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY,

00:39:04.975 --> 00:39:06.377
TAXPAYER DOLLARS SHOULD REPORT

00:39:06.444 --> 00:39:08.512
RESPONSIBLE VENDORS, THOSE THAT

00:39:08.579 --> 00:39:10.314
ARE MAINTAINING THE SAFE

00:39:10.381 --> 00:39:12.249
TRANSFER OF FIREARMS, NOT JUST

00:39:12.316 --> 00:39:13.751
TO OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES,

00:39:13.818 --> 00:39:15.920
BUT THE PUBLIC AS WELL. ILLEGAL

00:39:15.986 --> 00:39:17.955
GUNS REMAIN A SIGNIFICANT

00:39:18.022 --> 00:39:20.424
PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT. IN 2023,

00:39:20.491 --> 00:39:21.892
WE RECOVERED AND TRACED MORE

00:39:21.959 --> 00:39:23.861
THAN 56,000 FIREARMS CONNECTED

00:39:23.928 --> 00:39:25.863
TO CRIMES IN CALIFORNIA, WHICH

00:39:25.930 --> 00:39:26.897
DEMONSTRATES THAT THOSE

00:39:26.964 --> 00:39:27.965
FIREARMS ARE STILL MAKING ITS

00:39:28.032 --> 00:39:30.868
WAY IN THE HANDS OF CRIMINALS.

00:39:30.935 --> 00:39:32.770
THE CONSEQUENCES ARE INCREDIBLY

00:39:32.837 --> 00:39:34.472
SEVERE. WE SEE THOSE FIREARMS

00:39:34.538 --> 00:39:38.476
USED IN HOMICIDES, DEATHS OF

00:39:38.542 --> 00:39:40.311
OFFICERS, OTHER VIOLENT CRIMES.

00:39:40.377 --> 00:39:41.445
WE'VE DONE SOME PROGRESS IN

00:39:41.512 --> 00:39:42.980
THIS SPACE, BUT CLEARLY WE NEED

00:39:43.047 --> 00:39:44.215
TO DO MORE. AND WE THINK THAT

00:39:44.281 --> 00:39:45.249
HELPING TO IDENTIFY THOSE

00:39:45.316 --> 00:39:47.084
RESPONSIBLE VENDORS WILL JUST

00:39:47.151 --> 00:39:48.552
SERVE THE STATE AND OUR LOCAL

00:39:48.619 --> 00:39:49.386
AGENCIES. AND FOR THAT REASON,

00:39:49.453 --> 00:39:52.323
WE ARE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

00:39:52.389 --> 00:39:53.324
GOOD MORNING, MR. CHAIR.

00:39:53.390 --> 00:39:54.358
MEMBERS, DYLAN ELLIOTT HERE

00:39:54.425 --> 00:39:56.127
TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE SAN

00:39:56.193 --> 00:39:57.128
FRANCISCO COUNTY BOARD OF

00:39:57.194 --> 00:39:58.195
SUPERVISORS. I JUST WANT TO

00:39:58.262 --> 00:39:59.330
BEGIN BY THANKING THE AUTHOR

00:39:59.396 --> 00:40:00.464
FOR HER LEADERSHIP ON THIS

00:40:00.531 --> 00:40:02.233
ISSUE, GOING BACK TO HER TIME

00:40:02.299 --> 00:40:03.400
WITH THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS

00:40:03.467 --> 00:40:05.136
IN SAN FRANCISCO. IT'S A VERY

00:40:05.202 --> 00:40:05.636
STRAIGHTFORWARD MEASURE,

00:40:05.703 --> 00:40:06.270
UNDERSTANDING YOU'VE GOT A LONG

00:40:06.337 --> 00:40:08.205
AGENDA TODAY. I DON'T NEED TO

00:40:08.272 --> 00:40:09.373
BELABOR THE POINT HERE. I THINK

00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:11.208
THIS IS A REALLY COMMON SENSE

00:40:11.275 --> 00:40:12.309
EFFORT AT DOING SOMETHING

00:40:12.376 --> 00:40:13.244
MEANINGFUL THAT COULD CHANGE

00:40:13.310 --> 00:40:14.445
STATE LAW IN A PRODUCTIVE WAY,

00:40:14.512 --> 00:40:16.113
CONSISTENT WITH OUR VALUES. AND

00:40:16.180 --> 00:40:17.281
FOR THAT REASON, SAN FRANCISCO

00:40:17.348 --> 00:40:18.282
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ASKS FOR

00:40:18.349 --> 00:40:19.416
YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK

00:40:19.483 --> 00:40:21.118
YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE

00:40:21.185 --> 00:40:22.186
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR

00:40:22.253 --> 00:40:24.121
AB 458 IF YOU CAN, PLEASE STATE

00:40:24.188 --> 00:40:25.222
YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION OR CITY

00:40:25.289 --> 00:40:26.290
YOU'RE FROM IN POSITION.

00:40:26.357 --> 00:40:27.258
CHRISTINA CUNDARI MOMS DEMAND

00:40:27.324 --> 00:40:28.425
ACTION FOR GUN SENSE IN AMERICA

00:40:28.492 --> 00:40:30.127
AND STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU

00:40:30.194 --> 00:40:31.262
SARAH BURGER MOMS DEMAND ACTION

00:40:31.328 --> 00:40:33.831
FOR GUN SENSE IN AMERICA, SAN

00:40:33.898 --> 00:40:35.232
FRANCISCO AND SUPPORT. THANK

00:40:35.299 --> 00:40:39.170
YOU. CHARLES ALLEN EXPRESSING

00:40:39.236 --> 00:40:40.404
SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF EVERYTOWN

00:40:40.471 --> 00:40:41.806
FOR GUN SAFETY. THANK YOU,

00:40:41.872 --> 00:40:47.878
THANK YOU. JULIE CHAPMAN

00:40:47.945 --> 00:40:48.979
VOLUNTEER WITH NORCAL GUN

00:40:49.046 --> 00:40:53.984
VIOLENCE PREVENTION IN SUPPORT.

00:40:54.051 --> 00:40:56.554
MARY Dð WITH NORCAL GUN

00:40:56.620 --> 00:40:58.722
VIOLENCE PREVENTION GUN

00:40:58.789 --> 00:41:00.858
VIOLENCE SURVIVOR IN SUPPORT.

00:41:00.925 --> 00:41:03.794
THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE

00:41:03.861 --> 00:41:04.862
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR

00:41:04.929 --> 00:41:08.032
AB? 458 SEEING NO ONE COME

00:41:08.098 --> 00:41:09.200
FORWARD WILL NOT TAKE UP TO TWO

00:41:09.266 --> 00:41:10.401
PRINCIPAL OPPOSITION WITNESSES

00:41:10.467 --> 00:41:13.137
TO AB. 458 ARE THERE ANY

00:41:13.204 --> 00:41:20.344
OPPOSITION WITNESSES TO AB 458.

00:41:20.411 --> 00:41:22.813
OKAY, I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE

00:41:22.880 --> 00:41:23.914
OUTSIDE. IF YOU'RE OUTSIDE AND

00:41:23.981 --> 00:41:25.716
WISH TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION. AB

00:41:25.783 --> 00:41:27.885
458 PLEASE ENTER THE HEARING

00:41:27.952 --> 00:41:30.754
ROOM. OKAY. SEEING NO ONE COME

00:41:30.821 --> 00:41:31.889
FORWARD, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO

00:41:31.956 --> 00:41:33.691
THE DAIS FOR QUESTIONS OR

00:41:33.757 --> 00:41:34.658
COMMENTS. NO COMMENTS. THANK

00:41:34.725 --> 00:41:35.759
YOU, ASSEMBLY MEMBER FOR THIS

00:41:35.826 --> 00:41:37.962
BILL. JUST TO CLARIFY, THE

00:41:38.028 --> 00:41:39.230
AMENDMENT THAT WE'RE MAKING

00:41:39.296 --> 00:41:41.565
THIS COMMITTEE ARE TO

00:41:41.632 --> 00:41:42.633
CROSS-REFERENCE EXISTING

00:41:42.700 --> 00:41:43.801
DEFINITION IN THE IN THE STATE

00:41:43.868 --> 00:41:45.970
LAW OF FIREARM ACCESSORY. THAT

00:41:46.036 --> 00:41:47.104
IS CORRECT. SO THANK YOU FOR

00:41:47.171 --> 00:41:48.439
WORKING WITH OUR COMMITTEE

00:41:48.505 --> 00:41:49.874
STAFF, AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT

00:41:49.940 --> 00:41:51.008
THIS BILL, AND I'LL TURN IT

00:41:51.075 --> 00:41:52.877
BACK OVER TO MAKE A CLOSING

00:41:52.943 --> 00:41:53.878
STATEMENT. THANK YOU. I

00:41:53.944 --> 00:41:54.945
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE

00:41:55.012 --> 00:41:56.080
VOTE WHEN IT'S TIME. OKAY.

00:41:56.146 --> 00:41:57.848
WE'LL NOW PROCEED TO THE NEXT

00:41:57.915 --> 00:42:00.284
BILL BY ASSEMBLY. STEFANI AB

00:42:00.351 --> 00:42:04.221
1588. AND IF THERE ARE ANY

00:42:04.288 --> 00:42:06.056
PRINCIPAL WITNESSES FOR AB 1588,

00:42:06.123 --> 00:42:07.124
YOU'RE WELCOME TO JOIN US HERE

00:42:07.191 --> 00:42:09.994
AT THIS TABLE. THANK YOU. CHAIR.

00:42:10.060 --> 00:42:12.296
TODAY I'M PRESENTING AB 1588,

00:42:12.363 --> 00:42:13.597
WHICH DEALS WITH THOSE

00:42:13.664 --> 00:42:14.665
SIDESHOWS YOU HEAR SO MUCH

00:42:14.732 --> 00:42:16.000
ABOUT ON THE STREET TAKEOVERS

00:42:16.066 --> 00:42:17.534
THAT HAVE BEEN BLOCKING

00:42:17.601 --> 00:42:18.669
INTERSECTIONS AND HARMING

00:42:18.736 --> 00:42:20.471
COMMUNITY COMMUNITIES ACROSS

00:42:20.537 --> 00:42:21.605
CALIFORNIA. THESE EVENTS DO

00:42:21.672 --> 00:42:23.107
MORE THAN JUST DISRUPT TRAFFIC.

00:42:23.173 --> 00:42:24.775
THEY PUT RESIDENTS, SMALL

00:42:24.842 --> 00:42:25.809
BUSINESSES AND FIRST RESPONDERS

00:42:25.876 --> 00:42:28.045
AT RISK, ESPECIALLY WHEN

00:42:28.112 --> 00:42:29.446
EMERGENCY VEHICLES CANNOT GET

00:42:29.513 --> 00:42:30.848
THROUGH. AS WE HAVE SEEN WHEN

00:42:30.915 --> 00:42:32.549
THE BAY BRIDGE WAS COMPLETELY

00:42:32.616 --> 00:42:34.451
SHUT DOWN A WHILE BACK, SINCE

00:42:34.518 --> 00:42:36.287
FEBRUARY OF LAST YEAR, ENHANCED

00:42:36.353 --> 00:42:37.488
ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS IN THE EAST

00:42:37.554 --> 00:42:39.390
BAY HAVE LED TO THE SEIZURE OF

00:42:39.456 --> 00:42:41.292
MORE THAN 100 ILLEGAL GUNS AT

00:42:41.358 --> 00:42:42.693
SIDESHOWS, UNDERSCORING HOW

00:42:42.760 --> 00:42:44.194
QUICKLY THESE GATHERINGS CAN

00:42:44.261 --> 00:42:45.963
ESCALATE FROM JUST RECKLESS

00:42:46.030 --> 00:42:47.464
BEHAVIOR INTO SERIOUS THREATS

00:42:47.531 --> 00:42:49.667
TO HUMAN LIFE. SIDESHOWS IN

00:42:49.733 --> 00:42:51.235
HAYWARD JUST TWO MONTHS AGO SAW

00:42:51.302 --> 00:42:53.203
OVER 50 CARS DESTROYING AN

00:42:53.270 --> 00:42:55.072
INTERSECTION WITH A STOLEN CAR

00:42:55.139 --> 00:42:56.774
VIOLENTLY SLAMMING INTO

00:42:56.840 --> 00:42:58.275
SPECTATORS AFTER THE STOLEN CAR

00:42:58.342 --> 00:43:00.044
CRASHED INTO A TRUCK. SWARMS OF

00:43:00.110 --> 00:43:01.312
PEOPLE THEN BEGAN DESTROYING

00:43:01.378 --> 00:43:03.247
THE CAR. THREE WEEKS AGO IN SAN

00:43:03.314 --> 00:43:05.115
JOSE, MORE SPECTATORS WERE HIT

00:43:05.182 --> 00:43:06.717
BY SPINNING CARS IN A SIDESHOW

00:43:06.784 --> 00:43:08.285
AT THE CAPITOL SQUARE MALL.

00:43:08.352 --> 00:43:09.687
AFTER THE SIDESHOW, THE SAN

00:43:09.753 --> 00:43:11.188
JOSE POLICE DEPARTMENT TOLD

00:43:11.255 --> 00:43:11.922
COMMUNITIES THEY COULDN'T

00:43:11.989 --> 00:43:13.691
PERFORM LARGE SCALE ENFORCEMENT,

00:43:13.757 --> 00:43:15.159
LEAVING OFFENDERS WITHOUT

00:43:15.225 --> 00:43:15.893
ACCOUNTABILITY AND VICTIMS

00:43:15.960 --> 00:43:17.328
WITHOUT JUSTICE. AND THAT'S

00:43:17.394 --> 00:43:18.696
WHAT WE HEAR FROM OUR LAW

00:43:18.762 --> 00:43:19.763
ENFORCEMENT UP AND DOWN THE

00:43:19.830 --> 00:43:21.465
STATE ABOUT TRYING TO ENFORCE

00:43:21.532 --> 00:43:23.534
THESE ILLEGAL SIDESHOWS THAT

00:43:23.600 --> 00:43:25.269
ARE WREAKING HAVOC IN OUR

00:43:25.336 --> 00:43:25.970
COMMUNITIES. IT'S WHY I'M

00:43:26.036 --> 00:43:28.205
BRINGING FORWARD AB 1588 TODAY

00:43:28.272 --> 00:43:29.940
TO HELP CURB THESE ILLEGAL

00:43:30.007 --> 00:43:31.709
EVENTS AND CREATE A PENALTY

00:43:31.775 --> 00:43:33.177
STRUCTURE THAT MAKES SENSE FOR

00:43:33.243 --> 00:43:34.979
THESE DANGEROUS ACTIVITIES.

00:43:35.045 --> 00:43:36.547
DESPITE STEPS TAKEN BY CITIES

00:43:36.613 --> 00:43:38.148
IN THE STATE, ENFORCEMENT HAS

00:43:38.215 --> 00:43:40.284
NOT KEPT PACE WITH HOW THESE

00:43:40.351 --> 00:43:42.152
EVENTS OPERATE TODAY, LEAVING

00:43:42.219 --> 00:43:43.287
OFFICERS WITHOUT CLEAR

00:43:43.354 --> 00:43:45.089
AUTHORITY TO INTERVENE EARLY

00:43:45.155 --> 00:43:46.156
AND LEAVING COMMUNITIES

00:43:46.223 --> 00:43:47.191
FRUSTRATED WHEN THE SAME

00:43:47.257 --> 00:43:48.659
DANGEROUS BEHAVIOR CONTINUES TO

00:43:48.726 --> 00:43:51.528
OCCUR OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AB

00:43:51.595 --> 00:43:54.398
1588 CLOSES ENFORCEMENT GAPS BY

00:43:54.465 --> 00:43:56.200
UPDATING STATE LAW TO REFLECT

00:43:56.266 --> 00:43:57.634
HOW THEY OPERATE TODAY,

00:43:57.701 --> 00:43:58.969
INCLUDING ADDING MOTORCYCLES

00:43:59.036 --> 00:44:00.871
AND DIRT BIKES TO THE SIDESHOW

00:44:00.938 --> 00:44:02.306
FRAMEWORK SO OFFICERS CAN TAKE

00:44:02.373 --> 00:44:03.741
ACTION WHEN UNLICENSED VEHICLES

00:44:03.807 --> 00:44:05.542
ARE USED TO BLOCK STREETS AND

00:44:05.609 --> 00:44:07.111
PERFORM DANGEROUS STUNTS. THIS

00:44:07.177 --> 00:44:09.146
BILL ALSO STRENGTHENS

00:44:09.213 --> 00:44:10.614
ACCOUNTABILITY BY ALIGNING

00:44:10.681 --> 00:44:11.815
PENALTIES FOR SIDESHOWS WITH

00:44:11.882 --> 00:44:13.517
THOSE ALREADY IN PLACE FOR

00:44:13.584 --> 00:44:15.252
SPEED CONTESTS. TOGETHER, THESE

00:44:15.319 --> 00:44:16.553
CHANGES GIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT

00:44:16.620 --> 00:44:18.155
THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO RESPOND

00:44:18.222 --> 00:44:19.623
EFFECTIVELY AND TO PROTECT OUR

00:44:19.690 --> 00:44:22.126
COMMUNITIES. AMENDMENTS TO AB

00:44:22.192 --> 00:44:24.661
1588 SIGNIFICANTLY NARROWED ITS

00:44:24.728 --> 00:44:26.130
SCOPE, WHICH HAS RESULTED IN

00:44:26.196 --> 00:44:27.464
THE REMOVAL OF SIGNIFICANT

00:44:27.531 --> 00:44:29.666
STATEWIDE OPPOSITION GROUPS,

00:44:29.733 --> 00:44:30.768
INCLUDING THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC

00:44:30.834 --> 00:44:32.202
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION, SMART

00:44:32.269 --> 00:44:34.738
JUSTICE LAW DEFENSE, OAKLAND

00:44:34.805 --> 00:44:36.540
PRIVACY AND THE JUSTICE TO JOBS

00:44:36.607 --> 00:44:37.975
COALITION. HERE WITH ME TODAY

00:44:38.042 --> 00:44:39.810
IS CARL NISHIDA WITH GOVERNMENT

00:44:39.877 --> 00:44:41.245
AFFAIRS MANAGER WITH THE SAN

00:44:41.311 --> 00:44:42.146
FRANCISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT,

00:44:42.212 --> 00:44:43.914
AND CRISTIAN NUNEZ WITH STREETS

00:44:43.981 --> 00:44:45.916
ARE FOR EVERYONE AND GOOD

00:44:45.983 --> 00:44:46.717
MORNING. WE EACH HAVE TWO

00:44:46.784 --> 00:44:47.451
MINUTES TO ADDRESS THE

00:44:47.518 --> 00:44:49.186
COMMITTEE ON THE BILL. GOOD

00:44:49.253 --> 00:44:50.220
MORNING, MR. CHAIR MEMBERS. I

00:44:50.287 --> 00:44:51.388
AM CARL NISHIDA, GOVERNMENT

00:44:51.455 --> 00:44:52.423
AFFAIRS MANAGER FOR THE SAN

00:44:52.489 --> 00:44:53.657
FRANCISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

00:44:53.724 --> 00:44:55.459
I'M HERE TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE

00:44:55.526 --> 00:44:56.593
DEPARTMENT TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT

00:44:56.660 --> 00:44:58.495
OF AB 1588 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER

00:44:58.562 --> 00:44:59.963
STEPHANIE, WHICH ADDRESSES THE

00:45:00.030 --> 00:45:02.099
GROWING PROBLEM OF ILLEGAL SIDE

00:45:02.166 --> 00:45:03.200
SIDESHOWS AND STREET RACES

00:45:03.267 --> 00:45:04.268
THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA,

00:45:04.334 --> 00:45:06.070
INCLUDING THE SAN FRANCISCO BAY

00:45:06.136 --> 00:45:08.205
AREA. AS THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER

00:45:08.272 --> 00:45:09.940
SAID, THESE EVENTS ARE NOT

00:45:10.007 --> 00:45:11.775
SIMPLY TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS. THEY

00:45:11.842 --> 00:45:13.243
OFTEN INVOLVE COORDINATED

00:45:13.310 --> 00:45:15.045
BLOCKAGES OF INTERSECTIONS,

00:45:15.112 --> 00:45:16.513
ROADWAYS, FREEWAY RAMPS AND

00:45:16.580 --> 00:45:18.348
OTHER TRANSPORTATION

00:45:18.415 --> 00:45:19.383
INFRASTRUCTURE. WHILE DRIVERS

00:45:19.450 --> 00:45:21.151
ENGAGE IN DANGEROUS STUNTS,

00:45:21.218 --> 00:45:22.619
EXHIBITIONS OF SPEED, RECKLESS

00:45:22.686 --> 00:45:24.421
DRIVING AND OTHER UNLAWFUL

00:45:24.488 --> 00:45:26.890
ACTIVITY. AB 1588 MODERNIZES

00:45:26.957 --> 00:45:28.325
CALIFORNIA'S SIDESHOW LAWS BY

00:45:28.392 --> 00:45:30.160
PROVIDING GREATER CLARITY

00:45:30.227 --> 00:45:31.562
REGARDING TYPES OF VEHICLES

00:45:31.628 --> 00:45:32.696
COMMONLY INVOLVED IN THESE

00:45:32.763 --> 00:45:34.465
EVENTS. IT UPDATES THE

00:45:34.531 --> 00:45:35.566
DEFINITION OF A SIDESHOW TO

00:45:35.632 --> 00:45:36.633
BETTER REFLECT HOW THESE

00:45:36.700 --> 00:45:38.068
GATHERINGS OCCUR TODAY, AND

00:45:38.135 --> 00:45:39.536
ALIGNS PENALTIES FOR DANGEROUS,

00:45:39.603 --> 00:45:41.338
SIDESHOW RELATED EXHIBITION OF

00:45:41.405 --> 00:45:43.474
SPEED OFFENSES, WITH EXISTING

00:45:43.540 --> 00:45:45.275
PENALTIES FOR STREET RACING.

00:45:45.342 --> 00:45:47.077
FOR THE SAN FRANCISCO POLICE

00:45:47.144 --> 00:45:48.512
DEPARTMENT, THE IMPACTS OF

00:45:48.579 --> 00:45:49.713
SIDESHOWS EXTEND WELL BEYOND

00:45:49.780 --> 00:45:51.748
THE PARTICIPANTS. THEY DISRUPT

00:45:51.815 --> 00:45:53.183
NEIGHBORHOODS THROUGH EXCESSIVE

00:45:53.250 --> 00:45:54.985
NOISE, PROPERTY DAMAGE AND

00:45:55.052 --> 00:45:56.453
PROLONGED ROADWAY CLOSURES.

00:45:56.520 --> 00:45:57.821
THEY CREATE DANGEROUS

00:45:57.888 --> 00:45:59.690
CONDITIONS FOR PEDESTRIANS,

00:45:59.756 --> 00:46:01.125
BYSTANDERS AND MOTORISTS AND

00:46:01.191 --> 00:46:03.660
CAN IMPEDE EMERGENCY VEHICLES.

00:46:03.727 --> 00:46:05.762
RESPONDING TO CALLS FOR SERVICE.

00:46:05.829 --> 00:46:08.332
OUR OFFICERS AND COMMAND STAFF

00:46:08.398 --> 00:46:09.399
REGULARLY HEAR FROM RESIDENTS

00:46:09.466 --> 00:46:10.868
AND BUSINESS OWNERS CONCERNED

00:46:10.934 --> 00:46:12.603
ABOUT THE FREQUENCY OF THESE

00:46:12.669 --> 00:46:14.838
EVENTS AND THE RISKS THAT THEY

00:46:14.905 --> 00:46:16.039
CREATE. OFFICERS ALSO REPORT

00:46:16.106 --> 00:46:17.708
THAT SIDESHOWS HAVE EVOLVED IN

00:46:17.774 --> 00:46:19.376
RECENT YEARS. WE INCREASINGLY

00:46:19.443 --> 00:46:21.278
SEE MOTORCYCLES, DIRT BIKES,

00:46:21.345 --> 00:46:22.713
ATVS AND OTHER OFF HIGHWAY

00:46:22.779 --> 00:46:23.780
VEHICLES PARTICIPATING

00:46:23.847 --> 00:46:25.415
ALONGSIDE TRADITIONAL VEHICLES,

00:46:25.482 --> 00:46:26.984
AS WELL AS INCREASINGLY

00:46:27.050 --> 00:46:28.652
ORGANIZED ACTIVITY COORDINATED

00:46:28.719 --> 00:46:31.355
THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA. AB 1588

00:46:31.421 --> 00:46:32.823
IS A MEASURE PROPOSAL THAT

00:46:32.890 --> 00:46:33.857
PROVIDES LAW ENFORCEMENT WITH

00:46:33.924 --> 00:46:35.325
CLEARER TOOLS TO ADDRESS

00:46:35.392 --> 00:46:36.793
CONDUCT THAT THREATENS PUBLIC

00:46:36.860 --> 00:46:38.862
SAFETY. ON BEHALF OF THE SAN

00:46:38.929 --> 00:46:39.863
FRANCISCO POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE

00:46:39.930 --> 00:46:41.431
THANK ASSEMBLY MEMBER STEFANI

00:46:41.498 --> 00:46:43.100
FOR HER WORK ON THIS ISSUE, AND

00:46:43.167 --> 00:46:45.469
WE RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR AYE

00:46:45.536 --> 00:46:54.077
VOTE. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR.

00:46:54.144 --> 00:46:55.512
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. GOOD

00:46:55.579 --> 00:46:56.547
MORNING. MY NAME IS CHRISTIAN

00:46:56.613 --> 00:46:58.015
NUNEZ. I'M HERE REPRESENTING

00:46:58.081 --> 00:46:59.483
STREETS ARE FOR EVERYONE. WE

00:46:59.550 --> 00:47:00.884
ARE A NONPROFIT BASED IN

00:47:00.951 --> 00:47:01.952
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA WORKING ON

00:47:02.019 --> 00:47:03.787
ROAD SAFETY ISSUES ACROSS THE

00:47:03.854 --> 00:47:05.222
STATE. WE ARE ALSO ONE OF THE

00:47:05.289 --> 00:47:07.024
BILL'S SPONSORS. TO START, I'D

00:47:07.090 --> 00:47:08.225
LIKE TO BEGIN WITH A NUMBER,

00:47:08.292 --> 00:47:09.793
AND THAT'S 288. THAT'S THE

00:47:09.860 --> 00:47:11.228
NUMBER OF STREET TAKEOVERS THAT

00:47:11.295 --> 00:47:13.697
CHP WAS AWARE OF THAT OCCURRED

00:47:13.764 --> 00:47:15.499
IN L.A. COUNTY ALONE, JUST IN

00:47:15.566 --> 00:47:18.068
THE LAST SIX MONTHS. THAT'S AN

00:47:18.135 --> 00:47:20.237
AVERAGE OF 1.5 PER DAY. IN

00:47:20.304 --> 00:47:21.638
TRUTH, MOST OF THOSE MOST OF

00:47:21.705 --> 00:47:23.173
THOSE HAPPENED BETWEEN THURSDAY

00:47:23.240 --> 00:47:26.310
AND SATURDAY NEAR MY OWN CAMPUS.

00:47:26.376 --> 00:47:27.778
ILLEGAL STREET TAKEOVERS ARE

00:47:27.844 --> 00:47:29.346
TAKING PLACE. THEY TAKE PLACE

00:47:29.413 --> 00:47:31.381
IN THE SAME INTERSECTIONS AND

00:47:31.448 --> 00:47:32.783
ROADS THAT ME AND MY PEERS USED

00:47:32.849 --> 00:47:35.752
TO WALK TO SCHOOL NIGHT AND DAY.

00:47:35.819 --> 00:47:36.820
L.A. COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF

00:47:36.887 --> 00:47:37.955
PUBLIC WORKS REPORTED THAT

00:47:38.021 --> 00:47:39.323
THESE TAKEOVERS COST THE COUNTY

00:47:39.389 --> 00:47:40.390
HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF

00:47:40.457 --> 00:47:41.825
DOLLARS A YEAR IN

00:47:41.892 --> 00:47:42.893
INFRASTRUCTURE DAMAGE, AND THE

00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:44.328
COST TO MULTIPLE AGENCIES

00:47:44.394 --> 00:47:46.863
ACROSS THE COUNTY IS FAR HIGHER.

00:47:46.930 --> 00:47:48.298
BUT LET'S NOT JUST LOOK AT

00:47:48.365 --> 00:47:50.834
NUMBERS. LET'S LOOK AT HOW THIS

00:47:50.901 --> 00:47:53.370
AFFECTS PEOPLE. STREETS ARE FOR.

00:47:53.437 --> 00:47:54.404
EVERYONE IS CURRENTLY ENGAGED

00:47:54.471 --> 00:47:55.872
IN A STUDY OF IMPACT OF THE

00:47:55.939 --> 00:47:57.641
IMPACT OF STREET TAKEOVERS ON

00:47:57.708 --> 00:47:58.742
BUSINESSES AND COMMUNITY

00:47:58.809 --> 00:48:01.211
MEMBERS AND WHERE THEY HAPPEN.

00:48:01.278 --> 00:48:02.679
WHILE I CAN'T GIVE YOU FINAL

00:48:02.746 --> 00:48:04.481
DATA, I CAN SAY THAT THESE

00:48:04.548 --> 00:48:05.582
INCIDENTS IMPACT PHYSICAL AND

00:48:05.649 --> 00:48:07.384
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND

00:48:07.451 --> 00:48:09.219
ECONOMIC AND SOCIO ECONOMIC

00:48:09.286 --> 00:48:10.587
FACTS FAR BEYOND THE

00:48:10.654 --> 00:48:11.688
INTERSECTION WHERE THEY TAKE

00:48:11.755 --> 00:48:13.490
PLACE. BUT AGAIN, LET'S NOT

00:48:13.557 --> 00:48:14.758
JUST TALK ABOUT STATS, BUT

00:48:14.825 --> 00:48:16.693
ABOUT PEOPLE. ONE EXAMPLE OF

00:48:16.760 --> 00:48:18.895
THE TOLL STREET TAKEOVERS IS

00:48:18.962 --> 00:48:20.897
RAYMOND. ON THE 19TH OF

00:48:20.964 --> 00:48:23.233
FEBRUARY, 27 YEAR OLD RAYMOND

00:48:23.300 --> 00:48:24.735
OLIVARES WAS CROSSING THE ROAD

00:48:24.801 --> 00:48:26.470
IN FRONT OF HIS NEWLY PURCHASED

00:48:26.536 --> 00:48:27.571
HOME WITH HIS HIGH SCHOOL

00:48:27.638 --> 00:48:28.939
SWEETHEART AND NEW FIANCÉE,

00:48:29.006 --> 00:48:32.009
MARIA RIVAS CRUZ, 27, WHEN HE

00:48:32.075 --> 00:48:33.677
WAS HIT BY A PERSON LEAVING A

00:48:33.744 --> 00:48:35.846
STREET TAKEOVER, DOING ALMOST

00:48:35.912 --> 00:48:38.415
70 MILES AN HOUR. RAYMOND DIED

00:48:38.482 --> 00:48:40.484
AT THAT SCENE AND HIS FIANCE

00:48:40.550 --> 00:48:42.686
SUFFERED SERIOUS INJURIES BUT

00:48:42.753 --> 00:48:45.188
SURVIVED. ON BEHALF OF RAYMOND,

00:48:45.255 --> 00:48:46.590
MARIA AND SO MANY OTHERS WHOSE

00:48:46.657 --> 00:48:48.792
LIVES ARE IMPACTED BY STREET

00:48:48.859 --> 00:48:50.193
TAKEOVERS, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK

00:48:50.260 --> 00:48:52.829
FOR A VOTE ON AB 1588. THANK

00:48:52.896 --> 00:48:53.830
YOU, THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE

00:48:53.897 --> 00:48:55.399
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR

00:48:55.465 --> 00:48:58.502
AB 1588? CLIFTON WILSON ON

00:48:58.568 --> 00:48:59.770
BEHALF OF MAYOR DANIEL LURIE,

00:48:59.836 --> 00:49:00.937
PROUD SPONSOR OF THE BILL, AS

00:49:01.004 --> 00:49:02.839
WELL AS THE CITY AND COUNTY OF

00:49:02.906 --> 00:49:03.907
SAN FRANCISCO AND THE SAN

00:49:03.974 --> 00:49:04.941
JOAQUIN COUNTY BOARD OF

00:49:05.008 --> 00:49:06.376
SUPERVISORS, ALL IN STRONG

00:49:06.443 --> 00:49:12.182
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

00:49:12.249 --> 00:49:13.950
MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS. ANDREW

00:49:14.017 --> 00:49:15.018
ANTHONY HERE ON BEHALF OF THE

00:49:15.085 --> 00:49:17.154
CITY OF BEVERLY HILLS IN

00:49:17.220 --> 00:49:18.989
SUPPORT AND THE CALIFORNIA CITY

00:49:19.056 --> 00:49:20.490
TRANSPORTATION INITIATIVE, ALSO

00:49:20.557 --> 00:49:25.495
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. MISTER

00:49:25.562 --> 00:49:27.297
CHAIR MEMBERS, TIM CHANG FOR

00:49:27.364 --> 00:49:29.032
THE AUTO CLUB OF SOUTHERN

00:49:29.099 --> 00:49:31.401
CALIFORNIA URGING YOUR SUPPORT.

00:49:31.468 --> 00:49:36.640
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. I ON

00:49:36.707 --> 00:49:38.075
BEHALF OF TRIPLE A NORTHERN

00:49:38.141 --> 00:49:39.276
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. THANK

00:49:39.343 --> 00:49:42.746
YOU. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND

00:49:42.813 --> 00:49:43.880
MEMBERS. IVY FITZPATRICK ON

00:49:43.947 --> 00:49:44.848
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

00:49:44.915 --> 00:49:46.016
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION

00:49:46.083 --> 00:49:47.117
AND THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY

00:49:47.184 --> 00:49:48.251
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND

00:49:48.318 --> 00:49:52.255
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD

00:49:52.322 --> 00:49:53.090
MORNING. SERENA SCOTT, ON

00:49:53.156 --> 00:49:54.191
BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE OF

00:49:54.257 --> 00:49:55.192
CALIFORNIA CITIES AND STRONG

00:49:55.258 --> 00:49:56.293
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

00:49:56.360 --> 00:49:57.994
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

00:49:58.061 --> 00:49:59.896
SUPPORT FOR AB 1588? SEEING NO

00:49:59.963 --> 00:50:01.231
ONE COME FORWARD WILL NOW TAKE

00:50:01.298 --> 00:50:02.733
UP TO TWO PRINCIPAL OPPOSITION

00:50:02.799 --> 00:50:16.680
WITNESSES. AB 1588. CHAIR

00:50:16.747 --> 00:50:18.548
MEMBERS NAMES AUBRY RODRIGUEZ,

00:50:18.615 --> 00:50:20.317
ALLEGED ADVOCATE WITH ACLU CAL

00:50:20.384 --> 00:50:22.119
ACTION. WHILE WE COMMEND THE

00:50:22.185 --> 00:50:23.553
AUTHOR FOR HER COMMITMENT TO

00:50:23.620 --> 00:50:25.789
PUBLIC SAFETY AND AMENDING THIS

00:50:25.856 --> 00:50:27.157
BILL DOWN FROM INITIAL APPROACH

00:50:27.224 --> 00:50:28.225
PRESENTED ASSEMBLY PUBLIC

00:50:28.291 --> 00:50:29.760
SAFETY, WE CONTINUE TO HAVE

00:50:29.826 --> 00:50:31.094
STRONG ISSUES WITH THIS

00:50:31.161 --> 00:50:32.929
PROPOSAL. THERE'S A STRONG

00:50:32.996 --> 00:50:34.364
INCLINATION FROM POLICY MAKERS

00:50:34.431 --> 00:50:37.300
TO DETER CRIME BY EXPANDING AND

00:50:37.367 --> 00:50:39.436
INCREASING CRIMES. IN FACT,

00:50:39.503 --> 00:50:41.171
HIGHER FINES DO NOT DETER

00:50:41.238 --> 00:50:42.606
BEHAVIOR THAT IS SOCIAL,

00:50:42.672 --> 00:50:44.474
IMPULSIVE OR COLLECTIVE.

00:50:44.541 --> 00:50:45.942
INSTEAD, FINANCIAL PENALTIES OF

00:50:46.009 --> 00:50:47.677
THIS SCALE FALL MOST HEAVILY ON

00:50:47.744 --> 00:50:49.846
PEOPLE THAT ARE LOW INCOME.

00:50:49.913 --> 00:50:51.648
DEEPENING CYCLES OF POVERTY AND

00:50:51.715 --> 00:50:53.083
PUNISHMENT THAT DOES NOT DOES

00:50:53.150 --> 00:50:54.918
NOTHING TO IMPROVE PUBLIC

00:50:54.985 --> 00:50:56.686
SAFETY. RATHER THAN AN

00:50:56.753 --> 00:50:58.522
EFFECTIVE CARCERAL SOLUTIONS,

00:50:58.588 --> 00:50:59.556
CALIFORNIA SHOULD FOCUS ON

00:50:59.623 --> 00:51:00.657
ENVIRONMENTAL AND COMMUNITY

00:51:00.724 --> 00:51:02.392
BASED PREVENTION TO ADDRESS THE

00:51:02.459 --> 00:51:04.661
ISSUE OF SIDESHOWS. OAKLAND'S

00:51:04.728 --> 00:51:05.662
DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION

00:51:05.729 --> 00:51:07.464
HAS BEGUN INSTALLING BOLLARDS,

00:51:07.531 --> 00:51:08.565
STEEL PLATES AND CURB

00:51:08.632 --> 00:51:10.700
EXTENSIONS TO DISRUPT

00:51:10.767 --> 00:51:12.202
INTERSECTIONS COMMONLY USED FOR

00:51:12.269 --> 00:51:13.770
SIDESHOWS, AND NEARBY RESIDENTS

00:51:13.837 --> 00:51:15.338
HAVE ALREADY REPORTED A

00:51:15.405 --> 00:51:17.908
DECREASE IN ACTIVITY, ROADWAY

00:51:17.974 --> 00:51:19.409
DESIGN, YOUTH ENGAGEMENT AND

00:51:19.476 --> 00:51:21.144
INVESTMENT, AND COMMUNITY BASED

00:51:21.211 --> 00:51:22.612
PROGRAMING ARE EVIDENCE BASED

00:51:22.679 --> 00:51:24.815
STRATEGIES THAT PROMOTE SAFETY

00:51:24.881 --> 00:51:26.616
WITHOUT EXACERBATING INEQUALITY

00:51:26.683 --> 00:51:27.984
AND RACIAL DISPARITIES IN THE

00:51:28.051 --> 00:51:29.853
CRIMINAL LEGAL SYSTEM. GIVEN

00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:31.288
THE LACK OF THIS APPROACH AND

00:51:31.354 --> 00:51:32.722
THIS PROPOSAL, WE RESPECTFULLY

00:51:32.789 --> 00:51:34.057
URGE A NO VOTE. THANK YOU.

00:51:34.124 --> 00:51:35.192
THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING

00:51:35.258 --> 00:51:39.196
TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR AB 1588?

00:51:39.262 --> 00:51:40.597
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. SORRY.

00:51:40.664 --> 00:51:41.665
ERIC HENDERSON, ON BEHALF OF

00:51:41.731 --> 00:51:43.133
THE SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC

00:51:43.200 --> 00:51:44.568
DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND

00:51:44.634 --> 00:51:45.635
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. THANK

00:51:45.702 --> 00:51:48.572
YOU. ELIZABETH KIM, ON BEHALF

00:51:48.638 --> 00:51:49.940
OF INITIATE JUSTICE AND

00:51:50.006 --> 00:51:55.679
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. SOPHIA

00:51:55.745 --> 00:51:57.514
NEWHOUSE BROWN ON BEHALF OF

00:51:57.581 --> 00:51:59.783
LOCAL 148 THE CALIFORNIA OR THE

00:51:59.850 --> 00:52:02.185
LOS ANGELES PUBLIC DEFENDER'S

00:52:02.252 --> 00:52:04.354
UNION IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.

00:52:04.421 --> 00:52:05.555
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO

00:52:05.622 --> 00:52:09.025
EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO AB 1588?

00:52:09.092 --> 00:52:10.193
SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD,

00:52:10.260 --> 00:52:13.730
I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS.

00:52:13.797 --> 00:52:16.967
VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU. THANK

00:52:17.033 --> 00:52:17.834
YOU VERY MUCH. AND THANK YOU

00:52:17.901 --> 00:52:20.570
FOR THE BILL. I KNOW AS NEW

00:52:20.637 --> 00:52:23.106
ISSUES EVOLVE, THERE'S ALWAYS A

00:52:23.173 --> 00:52:24.875
PROCESS OF WHAT WE DO TO GO AND

00:52:24.941 --> 00:52:28.879
TRY TO TRY TO ADDRESS THEM. I

00:52:28.945 --> 00:52:30.013
THINK EVERYBODY IS AWARE

00:52:30.080 --> 00:52:32.782
THERE'S SOME REALLY FUN FILMS

00:52:32.849 --> 00:52:36.086
OUT THERE THAT KIND OF

00:52:36.152 --> 00:52:37.554
HIGHLIGHT THIS KIND OF STUFF.

00:52:37.621 --> 00:52:38.788
AND THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC THAT

00:52:38.855 --> 00:52:41.458
STARTS TO MIMIC THAT, NOT

00:52:41.525 --> 00:52:43.260
REALIZING THAT, WELL, MAYBE

00:52:43.326 --> 00:52:45.061
REALIZING, BUT THAT THE MOVIES

00:52:45.128 --> 00:52:46.930
ARE ONE THING AND REAL LIFE IS

00:52:46.997 --> 00:52:48.331
ANOTHER. AND THE REAL LIFE

00:52:48.398 --> 00:52:49.366
CONSEQUENCES OF WHAT WE'RE

00:52:49.432 --> 00:52:52.969
DOING ARE, ARE SOMETIMES REALLY

00:52:53.036 --> 00:52:56.206
DEVASTATING AS FAR AS THE

00:52:56.273 --> 00:52:56.973
DISPROPORTIONATE EFFECTS AND

00:52:57.040 --> 00:53:00.877
HOW IT AFFECTS PEOPLE THAT ARE

00:53:00.944 --> 00:53:03.013
STRUGGLING TO AFFORD ANYTHING.

00:53:03.079 --> 00:53:05.482
THE CARS, IF YOU LOOKED AT SOME

00:53:05.549 --> 00:53:06.983
OF THESE STREET TAKEOVERS,

00:53:07.050 --> 00:53:14.591
NUMBER ONE, THEY ARE NOT JUST.

00:53:14.658 --> 00:53:17.160
PEOPLE THAT ARE POOR. IN FACT,

00:53:17.227 --> 00:53:19.262
A LOT OF THOSE CARS ARE ARE

00:53:19.329 --> 00:53:20.997
PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL AS FAR AS

00:53:21.064 --> 00:53:24.634
THE COSTS FOR THE MODIFICATIONS.

00:53:24.701 --> 00:53:25.835
AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS

00:53:25.902 --> 00:53:27.170
THAT THEY'RE SHOWING OFF OUT

00:53:27.237 --> 00:53:30.040
THERE. IF THEY CAN SPEND 20

00:53:30.106 --> 00:53:32.175
GRAND MODIFYING THEIR VEHICLES

00:53:32.242 --> 00:53:33.343
SO THAT THEY CAN GO DO THIS

00:53:33.410 --> 00:53:36.212
TYPE OF ACTIVITY, CERTAINLY

00:53:36.279 --> 00:53:40.116
THEY CAN AFFORD THE FINE.

00:53:40.183 --> 00:53:42.285
HAVING CITIES HAVE TO PUT UP

00:53:42.352 --> 00:53:44.821
BOLLARDS. THOSE ARE NOT CHEAP.

00:53:44.888 --> 00:53:46.222
THOSE ARE EXPENSIVE, AND

00:53:46.289 --> 00:53:48.058
THEY'RE ALSO DISRUPTIVE. IF

00:53:48.124 --> 00:53:49.225
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHUT

00:53:49.292 --> 00:53:50.327
DOWN INTERSECTIONS EVERY

00:53:50.393 --> 00:53:52.729
WEEKEND, BECAUSE THAT

00:53:52.796 --> 00:53:55.265
INTERSECTION BECOMES SUBJECT TO

00:53:55.332 --> 00:53:56.633
PEOPLE WHO CAN'T BEHAVE

00:53:56.700 --> 00:53:58.201
THEMSELVES, THAT MEANS THE

00:53:58.268 --> 00:53:59.603
PEOPLE THAT CAN BEHAVE

00:53:59.669 --> 00:54:01.004
THEMSELVES ARE ALSO

00:54:01.071 --> 00:54:02.505
INCONVENIENCED AS WELL. AND

00:54:02.572 --> 00:54:03.740
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE PICKING UP

00:54:03.807 --> 00:54:07.444
THE TAB TO DO ALL THIS NONSENSE.

00:54:07.510 --> 00:54:09.446
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HOLD THE

00:54:09.512 --> 00:54:10.547
PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THIS

00:54:10.614 --> 00:54:12.515
ACCOUNTABLE. IT'S KIND OF A

00:54:12.582 --> 00:54:15.418
NEWER AREA. LIKE I SAID, WE

00:54:15.485 --> 00:54:17.120
HAVEN'T HAD THIS. AND IN FACT,

00:54:17.187 --> 00:54:18.254
IF THEY DIDN'T DO IT, WE

00:54:18.321 --> 00:54:20.123
WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE HERE. SHE

00:54:20.190 --> 00:54:21.224
WOULDN'T BE CARRYING THIS BILL.

00:54:21.291 --> 00:54:22.225
SHE'D PROBABLY HAVE ADDED

00:54:22.292 --> 00:54:23.326
ANOTHER BILL SOMEWHERE ELSE.

00:54:23.393 --> 00:54:26.162
THAT MIGHT BE VERY HELPFUL. BUT

00:54:26.229 --> 00:54:28.698
BUT HERE WE ARE. AND SO I

00:54:28.765 --> 00:54:30.867
SUPPORTED THIS IN

00:54:30.934 --> 00:54:32.335
TRANSPORTATION FOR ALL OF THOSE

00:54:32.402 --> 00:54:33.903
REASONS. I DON'T THINK THAT

00:54:33.970 --> 00:54:38.074
THERE ARE ANY ANY UNREASONABLE

00:54:38.141 --> 00:54:40.577
CONSEQUENCES FROM A LEGAL

00:54:40.644 --> 00:54:42.779
PERSPECTIVE FOR SOMEBODY WHO

00:54:42.846 --> 00:54:45.649
CHOOSES TO ENGAGE IN THIS. BUT

00:54:45.715 --> 00:54:47.817
I THINK FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY

00:54:47.884 --> 00:54:49.252
STANDPOINT, WE BETTER DO

00:54:49.319 --> 00:54:50.320
SOMETHING BECAUSE IF WE DO

00:54:50.387 --> 00:54:52.889
NOTHING OR WE CONTINUE TO MAKE

00:54:52.956 --> 00:54:54.624
EXCUSES FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T

00:54:54.691 --> 00:54:57.127
WANT TO FOLLOW THE LAW OR ACT

00:54:57.193 --> 00:55:00.030
IN A SAFE MANNER OR DISRUPT

00:55:00.096 --> 00:55:04.367
NEIGHBORHOODS. THEN THEN WE

00:55:04.434 --> 00:55:06.903
WILL HAVE CHAOS OUT THERE. AND

00:55:06.970 --> 00:55:08.338
THEN IF NO, IF THE LAW

00:55:08.405 --> 00:55:09.406
ENFORCEMENT ISN'T GOING TO BE

00:55:09.472 --> 00:55:10.573
ABLE TO DO ANYTHING WELL,

00:55:10.640 --> 00:55:12.342
PEOPLE ARE GOING TO START DOING

00:55:12.409 --> 00:55:13.309
SOMETHING. THEN THERE'S MORE

00:55:13.376 --> 00:55:16.079
CHAOS. SO WITH THAT, GET BACK

00:55:16.146 --> 00:55:17.914
TO THE CHAIR. THANK YOU AGAIN

00:55:17.981 --> 00:55:18.982
FOR YOUR BILL WILL BE

00:55:19.049 --> 00:55:20.550
SUPPORTING IT WHEN IT COMES UP.

00:55:20.617 --> 00:55:23.086
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU

00:55:23.153 --> 00:55:24.154
VERY MUCH, ASSEMBLY MEMBER, FOR

00:55:24.220 --> 00:55:25.789
BRINGING THIS BILL FORWARD. I

00:55:25.855 --> 00:55:28.191
STRONGLY SUPPORT IT. IF YOU ARE

00:55:28.258 --> 00:55:29.926
TAKING FURTHER AMENDMENTS IN

00:55:29.993 --> 00:55:30.960
APPROPRIATIONS, I WOULD LOVE TO

00:55:31.027 --> 00:55:33.196
BE ADDED AS A COAUTHOR. AS A

00:55:33.263 --> 00:55:36.066
RESIDENT OF OAKLAND, THIS IS A

00:55:36.132 --> 00:55:37.467
SERIOUS ISSUE IN THE COMMUNITY

00:55:37.534 --> 00:55:38.968
THAT I LIVE IN AND REPRESENT. I

00:55:39.035 --> 00:55:40.503
KNOW IT'S AN ISSUE ACROSS THE

00:55:40.570 --> 00:55:42.138
BAY IN SAN FRANCISCO. YES, WE

00:55:42.205 --> 00:55:45.041
NEED TO DESIGN OUR ROADWAYS TO

00:55:45.108 --> 00:55:47.210
REDUCE TRAFFIC VIOLENCE AND TO

00:55:47.277 --> 00:55:49.345
IMPROVE TRAFFIC SAFETY. HOW DO

00:55:49.412 --> 00:55:51.481
YOU DESIGN THE BAY BRIDGE TO

00:55:51.548 --> 00:55:54.084
MITIGATE SIDE SHIFTS? I MEAN,

00:55:54.150 --> 00:55:56.286
IT WAS IT WAS CRAZY THAT THERE

00:55:56.352 --> 00:55:58.021
WAS A COORDINATED EFFORT TO

00:55:58.088 --> 00:55:59.889
SHUT DOWN THE BAY BRIDGE, WHICH

00:55:59.956 --> 00:56:02.325
HAD A HUGE DISRUPTIVE IMPACT ON

00:56:02.392 --> 00:56:03.460
PEOPLE'S LIVES, WHO WERE TRYING

00:56:03.526 --> 00:56:07.764
TO GET ACROSS THE BAY. AND SO

00:56:07.831 --> 00:56:09.199
WE NEED TO SEND A STRONG

00:56:09.265 --> 00:56:10.266
MESSAGE THAT THIS KIND OF

00:56:10.333 --> 00:56:13.536
CONDUCT IS NOT ACCEPTABLE. IT

00:56:13.603 --> 00:56:14.938
IT HAS SAFETY CONSEQUENCES.

00:56:15.004 --> 00:56:17.474
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED, AND

00:56:17.540 --> 00:56:19.309
IT'S UNACCEPTABLE. THERE IS NO

00:56:19.375 --> 00:56:20.310
LEGITIMATE REASON WHY PEOPLE

00:56:20.376 --> 00:56:21.845
SHOULD ENGAGE IN A SIDESHOW. SO

00:56:21.911 --> 00:56:23.313
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THE BILL

00:56:23.379 --> 00:56:24.614
FORWARD. IF YOU'D LIKE TO CLOSE.

00:56:24.681 --> 00:56:26.316
WELL, THANK YOU, CHAIR AND VICE

00:56:26.382 --> 00:56:27.484
CHAIR. YOUR WORDS ARE MUSIC TO

00:56:27.550 --> 00:56:29.285
MY EARS. YOU SAID EVERYTHING I

00:56:29.352 --> 00:56:30.487
WOULD SAY IN MY CLOTHES. SO

00:56:30.553 --> 00:56:31.688
WHEN IT'S TIME, I RESPECTFULLY

00:56:31.755 --> 00:56:33.389
ASK FOR AN AYE VOTE. OKAY.

00:56:33.456 --> 00:56:34.524
THANK YOU. WE DON'T HAVE A

00:56:34.591 --> 00:56:36.292
QUORUM. ENTERTAIN A MOTION AT

00:56:36.359 --> 00:56:37.293
THE APPROPRIATE TIME. OKAY.

00:56:37.360 --> 00:56:40.830
NEXT AND FALL ORDER IS.

00:56:40.897 --> 00:56:43.633
ASSEMBLYMEMBER BONTA. AND I

00:56:43.700 --> 00:56:47.670
KNOW ASSEMBLYMAN HAS TWO BILLS.

00:56:47.737 --> 00:56:49.105
SHOULD WE JUST PROCEED WITH THE

00:56:49.172 --> 00:56:50.940
FIRST BILL AND FILE ORDER,

00:56:51.007 --> 00:56:52.041
ASSEMBLYMEMBER? YES. THANK YOU.

00:56:52.108 --> 00:56:54.210
OKAY. MAYBE 910. OKAY. WE'LL

00:56:54.277 --> 00:56:56.312
WE'LL MOVE NOW TO ITEM 7AB9 TEN

00:56:56.379 --> 00:56:58.948
BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER BONTA. WELL,

00:56:59.015 --> 00:57:00.250
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND

00:57:00.316 --> 00:57:01.718
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I AM ONCE

00:57:01.785 --> 00:57:03.486
AGAIN PRESENTING THE SURVIVORS

00:57:03.553 --> 00:57:05.655
ACT BECAUSE WE MUST FIND

00:57:05.722 --> 00:57:07.157
ANOTHER PATH TO SUPPORTING

00:57:07.223 --> 00:57:08.958
SURVIVORS OTHER THAN

00:57:09.025 --> 00:57:10.393
CRIMINALIZATION. ORGANIZATIONS

00:57:10.460 --> 00:57:11.361
AND SURVIVORS THEMSELVES HAVE

00:57:11.427 --> 00:57:12.896
EXPRESSED THE CRITICAL NEED FOR

00:57:12.962 --> 00:57:14.330
EXPANDING LEGAL PROTECTIONS AND

00:57:14.397 --> 00:57:16.132
RESOURCES FOR SURVIVORS OF

00:57:16.199 --> 00:57:18.301
VIOLENCE AND EXPLOITATION. AB

00:57:18.368 --> 00:57:20.103
910 IS FUNDAMENTALLY ABOUT

00:57:20.170 --> 00:57:22.238
LISTENING TO SURVIVORS AND

00:57:22.305 --> 00:57:23.373
ENSURING OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM

00:57:23.439 --> 00:57:25.108
DOES THE SAME. IT RECOGNIZES

00:57:25.175 --> 00:57:27.010
THAT MANY INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE

00:57:27.076 --> 00:57:28.611
BEEN ARRESTED OR INCARCERATED

00:57:28.678 --> 00:57:30.580
ARE NOT SIMPLY OFFENDERS, BUT

00:57:30.647 --> 00:57:32.515
SURVIVORS OF PROFOUND VIOLENCE

00:57:32.582 --> 00:57:34.484
AND EXPLOITATION. WE CANNOT

00:57:34.551 --> 00:57:36.119
CLAIM TO VALUE PUBLIC SAFETY

00:57:36.186 --> 00:57:38.087
WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY

00:57:38.154 --> 00:57:39.155
CRIMINALIZING THE VERY

00:57:39.222 --> 00:57:40.790
INDIVIDUALS WHO MOST URGENTLY

00:57:40.857 --> 00:57:43.493
NEED PROTECTION. AB 910

00:57:43.560 --> 00:57:44.928
ACKNOWLEDGES THE REALITIES OF

00:57:44.994 --> 00:57:46.362
TRAUMA AND OFFERS SURVIVORS A

00:57:46.429 --> 00:57:48.164
PATHWAY TOWARD JUSTICE AND

00:57:48.231 --> 00:57:49.632
HEALING RATHER THAN CONTINUED

00:57:49.699 --> 00:57:52.902
HARM. AB 910 EXPANDS LEGAL

00:57:52.969 --> 00:57:54.304
PROTECTIONS AND RELIEF FOR

00:57:54.370 --> 00:57:56.072
SURVIVORS OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING,

00:57:56.139 --> 00:57:57.207
INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE, AND

00:57:57.273 --> 00:57:59.309
SEXUAL VIOLENCE BY ALLOWING

00:57:59.375 --> 00:58:00.777
SURVIVORS TO PRESENT THEIR

00:58:00.844 --> 00:58:02.579
EXPERIENCES OF ABUSE OF ABUSE

00:58:02.645 --> 00:58:04.747
AS AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE,

00:58:04.814 --> 00:58:06.549
EXPANDING ACCESS TO RELIEF SO

00:58:06.616 --> 00:58:08.351
SURVIVORS CAN PETITION TO

00:58:08.418 --> 00:58:09.786
VACATE CONVICTIONS RESULTING

00:58:09.853 --> 00:58:11.955
FROM ABUSE AND VICTIMIZATION,

00:58:12.021 --> 00:58:13.356
THEREBY REMOVING SIGNIFICANT

00:58:13.423 --> 00:58:15.158
BARRIERS TO HOUSING, EMPLOYMENT

00:58:15.225 --> 00:58:17.293
AND OTHER ESSENTIAL RESOURCES.

00:58:17.360 --> 00:58:20.230
THIS BILL PROVIDES PROCEDURAL

00:58:20.296 --> 00:58:22.432
RELIEF. I WANT TO BE CLEAR WHEN

00:58:22.498 --> 00:58:23.566
I SAY THIS THERE MUST BE

00:58:23.633 --> 00:58:24.868
JUDICIAL REVIEW WHEN

00:58:24.934 --> 00:58:27.403
PETITIONING FOR THE PETITION IS

00:58:27.470 --> 00:58:28.872
EVALUATED ON ITS INDIVIDUAL

00:58:28.938 --> 00:58:30.273
MERITS AND ESTABLISHMENT OF A

00:58:30.340 --> 00:58:32.809
TIE DIRECTLY TIED TO THE

00:58:32.876 --> 00:58:35.011
SURVIVORS VICTIMIZATION.

00:58:35.078 --> 00:58:36.379
SURVIVORS DESERVE OUR

00:58:36.446 --> 00:58:38.181
COMPASSION, NOT FURTHER

00:58:38.248 --> 00:58:39.549
INCARCERATION. HISTORICALLY,

00:58:39.616 --> 00:58:41.451
THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM HAS

00:58:41.517 --> 00:58:43.253
DISPROPORTIONATELY PENALIZED

00:58:43.319 --> 00:58:45.088
INDIVIDUALS WHO ADOPTED

00:58:45.154 --> 00:58:46.823
SURVIVAL STRATEGIES IN RESPONSE

00:58:46.890 --> 00:58:49.025
TO SEVERE ABUSE AND

00:58:49.092 --> 00:58:50.426
EXPLOITATION. THIS LEGISLATION

00:58:50.493 --> 00:58:51.928
REPRESENTS A COMMITMENT TO

00:58:51.995 --> 00:58:53.062
PROTECTING WOMEN, WOMEN OF

00:58:53.129 --> 00:58:54.364
COLOR, PARTICULARLY BLACK AND

00:58:54.430 --> 00:58:56.199
LATINA SURVIVORS, ARE

00:58:56.266 --> 00:58:57.300
DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTED BY

00:58:57.367 --> 00:58:59.068
THE CRIMINALIZATION OF THEIR

00:58:59.135 --> 00:59:01.271
SURVIVAL STRATEGIES. CALIFORNIA

00:59:01.337 --> 00:59:03.439
WOULDN'T BE ALONE. GEORGIA,

00:59:03.506 --> 00:59:05.575
LOUISIANA, NEBRASKA, WYOMING,

00:59:05.642 --> 00:59:07.377
AND NEW YORK ALLOW FOR

00:59:07.443 --> 00:59:09.879
SURVIVORS FOR ALL OFFENSES, AND

00:59:09.946 --> 00:59:11.681
OKLAHOMA, SOUTH CAROLINA,

00:59:11.748 --> 00:59:13.616
WISCONSIN AND WYOMING ALLOW FOR

00:59:13.683 --> 00:59:15.251
AN AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE FOR

00:59:15.318 --> 00:59:17.086
SURVIVORS, FOR ALL OFFENSES.

00:59:17.153 --> 00:59:18.554
MANY OF THESE LEGISLATIONS

00:59:18.621 --> 00:59:20.290
PASSED WITH BIPARTISAN

00:59:20.356 --> 00:59:22.525
AUTHORSHIP AND SUPPORT. A

00:59:22.592 --> 00:59:24.327
NATIONAL SURVIVOR STUDY

00:59:24.394 --> 00:59:25.728
CONDUCTED BY THE POLARIS

00:59:25.795 --> 00:59:27.931
INSTITUTE SHOWED US A GRIM

00:59:27.997 --> 00:59:29.699
REALITY 90% OF HUMAN

00:59:29.766 --> 00:59:31.501
TRAFFICKING VICTIMS ARE

00:59:31.567 --> 00:59:32.568
CRIMINALIZED WHILE BEING

00:59:32.635 --> 00:59:33.636
TRAFFICKED. THIS BILL IS

00:59:33.703 --> 00:59:35.438
PROUDLY SUPPORTED BY SURVIVOR

00:59:35.505 --> 00:59:37.273
ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS, PUBLIC

00:59:37.340 --> 00:59:38.708
DEFENDERS, AND TRAUMA INFORMED

00:59:38.775 --> 00:59:41.244
LEGAL SCHOLARS AND LEADERS IN

00:59:41.311 --> 00:59:43.413
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE. WITH ME

00:59:43.479 --> 00:59:45.048
HERE TODAY TO TESTIFY, AND I

00:59:45.114 --> 00:59:46.215
WANT TO THANK HER AGAIN FOR

00:59:46.282 --> 00:59:48.785
TESTIFYING IN BOTH OUR SUSAN

00:59:48.851 --> 00:59:50.219
BUSTAMANTE, A COURAGEOUS

00:59:50.286 --> 00:59:51.287
SURVIVOR WHO WILL SHARE HER

00:59:51.354 --> 00:59:53.122
PERSONAL EXPERIENCE WITH

00:59:53.189 --> 00:59:53.923
CRIMINALIZATION DIRECTLY LINKED

00:59:53.990 --> 00:59:55.959
TO HER VICTIMIZATION. THANK YOU,

00:59:56.025 --> 00:59:57.627
SUSAN, FOR COMING UP AGAIN THIS

00:59:57.694 --> 00:59:58.861
YEAR AND SHARING YOUR STORY.

00:59:58.928 --> 01:00:00.496
AND MANDY BOYD, STAFF ATTORNEY

01:00:00.563 --> 01:00:02.398
AT THE IMMIGRANT LEGAL RESOURCE

01:00:02.465 --> 01:00:05.768
CENTER. HI. GOOD MORNING.

01:00:05.835 --> 01:00:08.938
WHOEVER WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN.

01:00:09.005 --> 01:00:12.542
THANK YOU. PANEL. MY NAME IS

01:00:12.608 --> 01:00:14.444
SUSAN BUSTAMANTE. I WAS RAISED

01:00:14.510 --> 01:00:16.512
IN THE HISPANIC CULTURE OF WHAT

01:00:16.579 --> 01:00:18.114
HAPPENS IN THE HOUSE, STAYS IN

01:00:18.181 --> 01:00:20.416
THE HOUSE. AT THE AGE OF 12, MY

01:00:20.483 --> 01:00:22.652
FATHER STARTED MOLESTING ME AND

01:00:22.719 --> 01:00:24.754
IT CONTINUED TO THE AGE OF 18.

01:00:24.821 --> 01:00:26.289
I FINALLY TOLD MY BROTHER ABOUT

01:00:26.356 --> 01:00:28.358
THE ABUSE. HE SAYS, DON'T WORRY

01:00:28.424 --> 01:00:30.093
SIS, I'LL TAKE CARE OF IT. WHEN

01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:31.995
HE CAME BACK, HE SAID, GO HOME,

01:00:32.061 --> 01:00:33.229
HE'LL NEVER TOUCH YOU AGAIN.

01:00:33.296 --> 01:00:35.932
AND HE NEVER DID. AT 19 I MET

01:00:35.999 --> 01:00:37.767
STEVEN, MY HUSBAND. WHEN WE MET,

01:00:37.834 --> 01:00:39.535
I DIDN'T KNOW HE WAS A VIETNAM

01:00:39.602 --> 01:00:41.671
VET OR THAT HE WAS RAISED IN A

01:00:41.738 --> 01:00:42.972
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HOUSEHOLD.

01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:44.774
THE FIRST TIME HE HURT ME, MY

01:00:44.841 --> 01:00:45.842
HUSBAND DRAGGED ME IN THE

01:00:45.908 --> 01:00:47.076
BATHROOM, THREW ME AROUND. HE

01:00:47.143 --> 01:00:49.278
KEPT ME ISOLATED FROM MY FAMILY,

01:00:49.345 --> 01:00:51.047
AND ONLY ALLOWED ME OUT OF THE

01:00:51.114 --> 01:00:52.482
HOUSE TWICE A YEAR FOR

01:00:52.548 --> 01:00:53.983
CHRISTMAS AND MY BIRTHDAY. IN

01:00:54.050 --> 01:00:55.752
THE SIX YEARS I WAS MARRIED, HE

01:00:55.818 --> 01:00:56.953
THREATENED TO KILL MY SISTER

01:00:57.020 --> 01:00:59.022
AND MY MOM. HE SAID THEY WOULD

01:00:59.088 --> 01:01:00.757
HAVE ACCIDENTS. IT WAS

01:01:00.823 --> 01:01:01.991
TORTUROUS. WHEN I WAS PREGNANT

01:01:02.058 --> 01:01:03.292
WITH MY FIRST DAUGHTER, HE

01:01:03.359 --> 01:01:03.893
LITERALLY DRAGGED ME THROUGH

01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:05.795
THE HOUSE. HE WAS CONSTANTLY

01:01:05.862 --> 01:01:07.597
HITTING ME. HE WOULD HAVE

01:01:07.663 --> 01:01:09.065
FLASHBACKS IN VIETNAM AND I

01:01:09.132 --> 01:01:10.700
WOULD WAKE UP WITH HIM CHOKING

01:01:10.767 --> 01:01:12.335
ME. I HAVE PERMANENT DAMAGE IN

01:01:12.402 --> 01:01:15.138
MY NECK, MY HEAD FROM ALL THE

01:01:15.204 --> 01:01:16.572
BEATINGS. I BECAME PREGNANT

01:01:16.639 --> 01:01:18.775
AGAIN IN 1980 AND HE FORCED ME

01:01:18.841 --> 01:01:20.643
TO HAVE AN ABORTION. THAT WAS

01:01:20.710 --> 01:01:22.745
MY TURNING POINT. I WANTED HIM

01:01:22.812 --> 01:01:24.047
OUT OF MY LIFE, BUT HE

01:01:24.113 --> 01:01:25.281
THREATENED TO KIDNAP MY

01:01:25.348 --> 01:01:27.050
DAUGHTERS IF I EVER LEFT. SO I

01:01:27.116 --> 01:01:28.451
REACHED OUT TO MY BROTHER ONCE

01:01:28.518 --> 01:01:30.319
AGAIN AND AGAIN. HE TOLD ME,

01:01:30.386 --> 01:01:31.421
DON'T WORRY, SIS, I'LL TAKE

01:01:31.487 --> 01:01:33.322
CARE OF IT. THE IDEA THAT HE

01:01:33.389 --> 01:01:34.624
WOULD KILL STEVEN NEVER

01:01:34.690 --> 01:01:36.392
OCCURRED TO ME. LATER, HE

01:01:36.459 --> 01:01:37.860
CALLED ME TO SAY THAT STEVEN

01:01:37.927 --> 01:01:39.362
WAS DEAD. HE THREATENED TO CALL

01:01:39.429 --> 01:01:41.130
THE POLICE AND SAY I PLANNED IT.

01:01:41.197 --> 01:01:43.599
HE BLACKMAILED ME FOR STEVEN'S

01:01:43.666 --> 01:01:44.667
INSURANCE. I WAS AFRAID OF

01:01:44.734 --> 01:01:46.135
HAVING MY DAUGHTERS TAKEN FROM

01:01:46.202 --> 01:01:48.271
ME, SO I GAVE IN. I WAS ONLY 24

01:01:48.337 --> 01:01:50.440
YEARS OLD. A FEW YEARS LATER,

01:01:50.506 --> 01:01:51.774
MY BROTHER DIED, AND SOMEONE

01:01:51.841 --> 01:01:53.643
WHO KNEW TOLD THE DETECTIVE

01:01:53.709 --> 01:01:55.445
THAT I KILLED STEVEN. WHEN I

01:01:55.511 --> 01:01:57.647
WENT TO TRIAL, NOTHING WAS

01:01:57.713 --> 01:01:59.515
ALLOWED ABOUT THE MOLESTATION,

01:01:59.582 --> 01:02:01.617
NOTHING ABOUT THE DOMESTIC

01:02:01.684 --> 01:02:03.019
VIOLENCE. ANY TIME I TRIED TO

01:02:03.086 --> 01:02:05.221
SPEAK ABOUT MY FULL LIFE

01:02:05.288 --> 01:02:06.322
EXPERIENCE, IT WAS STRUCK FROM

01:02:06.389 --> 01:02:08.825
THE COURT RECORD AFTER ONLY A

01:02:08.891 --> 01:02:10.960
TWO DAY TRIAL. NO CHANCE TO

01:02:11.027 --> 01:02:12.361
TELL MY STORY. I WAS CONVICTED

01:02:12.428 --> 01:02:14.263
FOR MURDER. I DID NOT COMMIT

01:02:14.330 --> 01:02:15.431
AND SENTENCED TO LIFE WITHOUT

01:02:15.498 --> 01:02:17.500
THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE. SO

01:02:17.567 --> 01:02:20.002
AT 32 YEARS OLD, I HAD NEVER

01:02:20.069 --> 01:02:21.804
BEEN IN TROUBLE. BUT I WAS

01:02:21.871 --> 01:02:24.273
SENTENCED TO DIE IN PRISON. MY

01:02:24.340 --> 01:02:28.244
DAUGHTERS WERE 811. I MISSED

01:02:28.311 --> 01:02:30.146
THEIR WEDDINGS, THE BIRTH OF

01:02:30.213 --> 01:02:33.683
THEIR CHILDREN, MY GRANDKIDS. I

01:02:33.749 --> 01:02:35.418
LOST MY PARENTS AND MY SISTER

01:02:35.485 --> 01:02:36.886
WHILE IN PRISON FOR THREE

01:02:36.953 --> 01:02:41.924
DECADES. IF A B 910 EXISTED AS

01:02:41.991 --> 01:02:43.726
LAW, THEN I WOULD HAVE BEEN

01:02:43.793 --> 01:02:45.628
ABLE TO SHARE MY STORY. MAYBE I

01:02:45.695 --> 01:02:46.963
WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO

01:02:47.029 --> 01:02:48.764
ACCESS AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE OR

01:02:48.831 --> 01:02:50.566
GET A DIFFERENT SENTENCE. OR

01:02:50.633 --> 01:02:53.870
EVEN IF NOT, THANK YOU. I WOULD

01:02:53.936 --> 01:02:55.238
HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SPEAK MY

01:02:55.304 --> 01:02:56.739
WORDS, TO SHARE WHAT HAPPENED

01:02:56.806 --> 01:02:58.474
TO ME AND WHAT HAPPENED TO MY

01:02:58.541 --> 01:03:00.643
HUSBAND. WITH LIVING THREE

01:03:00.710 --> 01:03:02.778
DECADES INCARCERATED, I COME

01:03:02.845 --> 01:03:06.415
ACROSS MANY, MANY SURVIVORS OF

01:03:06.482 --> 01:03:08.985
ABUSE AND CONTROL. AND THEY

01:03:09.051 --> 01:03:10.720
WEREN'T LIFERS, A LOT OF THEM,

01:03:10.786 --> 01:03:12.121
BUT THEY WERE STILL STUCK WITH

01:03:12.188 --> 01:03:13.623
THE SENTENCE THAT THEY GOT AND

01:03:13.689 --> 01:03:15.191
WERE FORCED TO DO. THANKFULLY,

01:03:15.258 --> 01:03:17.727
I WAS GRANTED CLEMENCY IN 2017

01:03:17.793 --> 01:03:19.061
AND WENT TO PAROLE BOARD AND

01:03:19.128 --> 01:03:21.197
CAME HOME IN 2018. I'M A

01:03:21.264 --> 01:03:22.999
SURVIVOR OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE,

01:03:23.065 --> 01:03:25.034
A SURVIVOR OF CHILD MOLESTATION,

01:03:25.101 --> 01:03:26.536
AND A SURVIVOR OF THE

01:03:26.602 --> 01:03:28.337
CALIFORNIA PRISON SYSTEM WHO IS

01:03:28.404 --> 01:03:30.206
HORRIFIC AND ABUSIVE AND

01:03:30.273 --> 01:03:31.974
CONTROLLING AND VIOLENT. AND

01:03:32.041 --> 01:03:34.110
I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR VICTIMS AND

01:03:34.177 --> 01:03:35.178
SURVIVORS WHO SHOULD HAVE THE

01:03:35.244 --> 01:03:36.646
CHANCE TO TELL THEIR STORIES IN

01:03:36.712 --> 01:03:38.214
COURT. I'M HERE STRONG SUPPORT

01:03:38.281 --> 01:03:41.450
OF THIS BILL. SB 910. THANK YOU

01:03:41.517 --> 01:03:44.921
SO VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING,

01:03:44.987 --> 01:03:47.256
CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

01:03:47.323 --> 01:03:49.125
MY NAME IS MADDIE BOYD. I'M AN

01:03:49.192 --> 01:03:50.326
ATTORNEY AT THE IMMIGRANT LEGAL

01:03:50.393 --> 01:03:51.761
RESOURCE CENTER. I'VE

01:03:51.827 --> 01:03:53.563
REPRESENTED NON-CITIZENS IN

01:03:53.629 --> 01:03:54.397
DEPORTATION PROCEEDINGS AND

01:03:54.463 --> 01:03:55.932
SEEING THE EXTREME CONSEQUENCES

01:03:55.998 --> 01:03:57.300
THAT CRIMINAL CONVICTIONS CAUSE

01:03:57.366 --> 01:03:59.335
TO IMMIGRANT SURVIVORS. THIS

01:03:59.402 --> 01:04:01.137
LAW HELPS ALL SURVIVORS,

01:04:01.204 --> 01:04:02.905
INCLUDING NONCITIZEN SURVIVORS,

01:04:02.972 --> 01:04:03.973
REPAIR THE HARM CAUSED BY

01:04:04.040 --> 01:04:05.841
UNJUST CRIMINALIZATION, WHICH

01:04:05.908 --> 01:04:07.243
IS ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT DURING

01:04:07.310 --> 01:04:09.412
THESE TIMES. SURVIVORS OFTEN

01:04:09.478 --> 01:04:10.846
SPEND YEARS BATTLING CHARGES

01:04:10.913 --> 01:04:12.315
THEY WERE COERCED INTO

01:04:12.381 --> 01:04:13.849
COMMITTING. MANY HAVE NO CHANCE

01:04:13.916 --> 01:04:15.351
TO EVEN PRESENT EVIDENCE ABOUT

01:04:15.418 --> 01:04:17.320
THE VIOLENCE THEY ENDURED. AS

01:04:17.386 --> 01:04:18.754
WITH MISS BUSTAMANTE HERE WITH

01:04:18.821 --> 01:04:20.923
ME, OFTEN SURVIVORS PLEAD

01:04:20.990 --> 01:04:22.391
GUILTY JUST TO AVOID PROLONGED

01:04:22.458 --> 01:04:24.160
LEGAL BATTLES. AS A RESULT,

01:04:24.227 --> 01:04:25.995
THEY ENDURE LENGTHY PRISON

01:04:26.062 --> 01:04:26.696
SENTENCES AND ARE SEPARATED

01:04:26.762 --> 01:04:29.265
FROM THEIR FAMILIES. AFTER

01:04:29.332 --> 01:04:30.266
INCARCERATION, IMMIGRANT

01:04:30.333 --> 01:04:31.367
SURVIVORS ARE SUBJECTED TO

01:04:31.434 --> 01:04:32.435
DOUBLE PUNISHMENT IN THE FORM

01:04:32.501 --> 01:04:33.903
OF ICE DETENTION AND

01:04:33.970 --> 01:04:35.972
DEPORTATION. THAT'S WHY AB 910

01:04:36.038 --> 01:04:37.573
IS SO IMPORTANT. THIS BILL

01:04:37.640 --> 01:04:39.442
EXPANDS THE ABILITY TO PETITION

01:04:39.508 --> 01:04:41.444
FOR VACANT OR TO RAISE AN

01:04:41.510 --> 01:04:43.279
AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE IN COURT TO

01:04:43.346 --> 01:04:45.414
ALL CHARGES EXCEPT MURDER.

01:04:45.481 --> 01:04:46.549
CURRENTLY, CALIFORNIA'S LAW

01:04:46.616 --> 01:04:48.618
DRAWS AN ARBITRARY LINE BETWEEN

01:04:48.684 --> 01:04:49.885
CHARGES CLASSIFIED AS VIOLENT

01:04:49.952 --> 01:04:51.854
OR NONVIOLENT WHEN IT COMES TO

01:04:51.921 --> 01:04:53.356
THESE REMEDIES, EXCLUDING

01:04:53.422 --> 01:04:54.390
SURVIVORS WHO ARE CHARGED FROM

01:04:54.457 --> 01:04:56.192
CERTAIN OFFENSES, FROM THE

01:04:56.259 --> 01:04:57.693
OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE THEIR FULL

01:04:57.760 --> 01:04:59.462
STORIES IN COURT, THIS

01:04:59.528 --> 01:05:00.529
DISTINCTION IGNORES THE REALITY

01:05:00.596 --> 01:05:01.998
THAT VICTIMS ARE TOO OFTEN

01:05:02.064 --> 01:05:03.032
COERCED INTO COMMITTING CRIMES

01:05:03.099 --> 01:05:05.201
UNDER DURESS, AND OFTEN THROUGH

01:05:05.268 --> 01:05:07.036
EXTREME VIOLENCE, BY LIMITING

01:05:07.103 --> 01:05:08.437
RELIEF TO CERTAIN CRIMES,

01:05:08.504 --> 01:05:09.905
EXISTING LAW FAILS TO PROTECT

01:05:09.972 --> 01:05:11.340
THESE SURVIVORS AND PUNISHES

01:05:11.407 --> 01:05:12.775
THEM FOR THEIR OWN

01:05:12.842 --> 01:05:14.710
VICTIMIZATION. AB 910 REMOVES

01:05:14.777 --> 01:05:16.379
THIS ARBITRARY DISTINCTION,

01:05:16.445 --> 01:05:17.480
ENSURING SURVIVORS HAVE A

01:05:17.546 --> 01:05:18.547
CHANCE TO PRESENT EVIDENCE

01:05:18.614 --> 01:05:20.349
ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO THEM AND

01:05:20.416 --> 01:05:21.784
TO CLEAR THEIR RECORDS OF

01:05:21.851 --> 01:05:23.319
CONVICTIONS WHEN THEY CAN PROVE

01:05:23.386 --> 01:05:24.654
THAT THOSE CONVICTIONS WERE THE

01:05:24.720 --> 01:05:26.088
DIRECT RESULT OF THEIR

01:05:26.155 --> 01:05:27.156
VICTIMIZATION. TO THOSE WHO

01:05:27.223 --> 01:05:28.691
ARGUE THAT THESE LAWS WILL

01:05:28.758 --> 01:05:30.059
ALLOW DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS TO

01:05:30.126 --> 01:05:31.527
AVOID CRIMINAL LIABILITY, I

01:05:31.594 --> 01:05:33.262
WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT BOTH THE

01:05:33.329 --> 01:05:34.363
VICTOR AND THE AFFIRMATIVE

01:05:34.430 --> 01:05:35.965
DEFENSE ARE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT

01:05:36.032 --> 01:05:38.100
TO ATTAIN. SURVIVORS MUST MEET

01:05:38.167 --> 01:05:40.136
A HIGH BURDEN OF PROOF, AND

01:05:40.202 --> 01:05:41.237
PROSECUTORS HAVE THE

01:05:41.304 --> 01:05:42.305
OPPORTUNITY TO OPPOSE THE

01:05:42.371 --> 01:05:44.473
PETITIONS IN COURT. ULTIMATELY,

01:05:44.540 --> 01:05:45.908
IT'S UP TO THE JUDGES AND

01:05:45.975 --> 01:05:47.343
JURIES TO DETERMINE WHETHER

01:05:47.410 --> 01:05:49.111
SURVIVOR MEETS THE LEGAL

01:05:49.178 --> 01:05:50.946
CRITERIA. FOR THESE REASONS, I

01:05:51.013 --> 01:05:52.448
STRONGLY URGE THIS COMMITTEE TO

01:05:52.515 --> 01:05:53.716
SUPPORT AB. 910 THANK YOU.

01:05:53.783 --> 01:05:55.418
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE

01:05:55.484 --> 01:05:57.053
ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT

01:05:57.119 --> 01:05:59.388
FOR AB? 910 IF YOU CAN, PLEASE

01:05:59.455 --> 01:06:00.356
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. STATE

01:06:00.423 --> 01:06:01.691
YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION AND

01:06:01.757 --> 01:06:03.192
POSITION ON THE BILL. CORY

01:06:03.259 --> 01:06:04.393
WALKER WITH CALIFORNIANS FOR

01:06:04.460 --> 01:06:05.728
SAFETY AND JUSTICE. ALSO CRIME

01:06:05.795 --> 01:06:07.096
SURVIVORS SPEAK PROUD

01:06:07.163 --> 01:06:08.230
CO-SPONSORS AND SUPPORT. THANK

01:06:08.297 --> 01:06:11.801
YOU. DAPHNE. ON BEHALF OF THE

01:06:11.867 --> 01:06:13.969
NATIONAL CENTER FOR YOUTH IN

01:06:14.036 --> 01:06:19.375
SUPPORT. MARGO GEORGE ON BEHALF

01:06:19.442 --> 01:06:20.776
OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC

01:06:20.843 --> 01:06:22.311
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND

01:06:22.378 --> 01:06:26.582
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

01:06:26.649 --> 01:06:28.050
MELANIE KIM, SAN FRANCISCO

01:06:28.117 --> 01:06:29.785
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE

01:06:29.852 --> 01:06:34.090
CO-SPONSOR AND PROUD SUPPORT.

01:06:34.156 --> 01:06:35.624
LEILA CHAPPELLE, COALITION TO

01:06:35.691 --> 01:06:36.859
ABOLISH SLAVERY AND TRAFFICKING,

01:06:36.926 --> 01:06:38.094
PROUD CO-SPONSOR, PROUD SUPPORT.

01:06:38.160 --> 01:06:41.664
THANK YOU. I'LL WALK AWAY.

01:06:41.731 --> 01:06:43.132
RILEY HARMON WITH THE IMMIGRANT

01:06:43.199 --> 01:06:44.533
LEGAL RESOURCE CENTER IN STRONG

01:06:44.600 --> 01:06:48.871
SUPPORT. AND ON BEHALF OF CRIME

01:06:48.938 --> 01:06:52.475
SURVIVORS, SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

01:06:52.541 --> 01:06:53.542
MALCOLM ROOKS ON BEHALF OF

01:06:53.609 --> 01:06:54.610
CALIFORNIA SAFETY AND JUSTICE

01:06:54.677 --> 01:06:57.880
AND SUPPORT. CLIFTON WILSON ON

01:06:57.947 --> 01:06:59.548
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE

01:06:59.615 --> 01:07:00.549
ASSOCIATION OF PSYCHIATRISTS IN

01:07:00.616 --> 01:07:03.319
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. HØI

01:07:03.386 --> 01:07:04.520
RODRIGUEZ WITH ACLU, CAL ACTION

01:07:04.587 --> 01:07:07.423
AND PROUD SUPPORT. ELIZABETH

01:07:07.490 --> 01:07:08.491
KIM ON BEHALF OF INITIATE

01:07:08.557 --> 01:07:13.028
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. JIM

01:07:13.095 --> 01:07:14.830
LINDBERG, FINANCE COMMITTEE ON

01:07:14.897 --> 01:07:16.265
LEGISLATION OF CALIFORNIA IN

01:07:16.332 --> 01:07:19.835
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING. ERIC

01:07:19.902 --> 01:07:21.003
HENDERSON ON BEHALF OF THE ELLA

01:07:21.070 --> 01:07:22.138
BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS

01:07:22.204 --> 01:07:26.509
AND SUPPORT. LIZ BLUM GUTIERREZ

01:07:26.575 --> 01:07:28.477
ON BEHALF OF DEBT-FREE JUSTICE.

01:07:28.544 --> 01:07:30.980
CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA. ALSO

01:07:31.046 --> 01:07:32.448
REGISTERING SUPPORT ON BEHALF

01:07:32.515 --> 01:07:34.417
OF SMART JUSTICE CALIFORNIA.

01:07:34.483 --> 01:07:38.921
THANK YOU. JOANNE SCHEER,

01:07:38.988 --> 01:07:40.356
BEHALF OF FELONY MURDER

01:07:40.423 --> 01:07:42.158
ELIMINATION PROJECT IN PROUD

01:07:42.224 --> 01:07:43.959
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:07:44.026 --> 01:07:45.394
WE'LL NOW TAKE UP TO TWO

01:07:45.461 --> 01:07:47.229
PRINCIPAL OPPOSITION WITNESSES

01:07:47.296 --> 01:07:51.167
TO AB 910, ONE MORE IN STRONG

01:07:51.233 --> 01:07:52.635
SUPPORT. LARA O'CONNOR WITH

01:07:52.701 --> 01:07:55.504
COMPASSIONATE CALIFORNIA AND

01:07:55.571 --> 01:07:56.572
INSIDE CIRCLE IN THE NEW

01:07:56.639 --> 01:08:00.910
HEALING HOME. THANK YOU. ONCE

01:08:00.976 --> 01:08:03.045
AGAIN. INVITE ANY OPPOSITION

01:08:03.112 --> 01:08:16.058
WITNESSES TO AB 910. GOOD

01:08:16.125 --> 01:08:17.426
MORNING, HONORABLE CHAIR AND

01:08:17.493 --> 01:08:19.261
MEMBERS. CHIEF DEPUTY IP

01:08:19.328 --> 01:08:20.296
FITZPATRICK, THE RIVERSIDE

01:08:20.362 --> 01:08:21.797
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

01:08:21.864 --> 01:08:24.266
OFFICE HERE IN OPPOSITION FOR

01:08:24.333 --> 01:08:26.302
K¾T Ã Ã, AS WELL AS MY OWN

01:08:26.368 --> 01:08:28.871
OFFICE. WHILE WE APPRECIATE AND

01:08:28.938 --> 01:08:31.841
SHARE THE OFFER AUTHOR'S

01:08:31.907 --> 01:08:33.275
COMMITMENT TO SURVIVORS OF

01:08:33.342 --> 01:08:35.444
HUMAN TRAFFICKING, WE MUST

01:08:35.511 --> 01:08:36.545
REMAIN OPPOSED TO THIS

01:08:36.612 --> 01:08:39.048
PARTICULAR BILL. THREE MAIN

01:08:39.114 --> 01:08:41.917
REASONS THIS BILL, AS AMENDED,

01:08:41.984 --> 01:08:44.453
WOULD EXPAND THE STATUTES TO

01:08:44.520 --> 01:08:46.589
VIOLENT CRIMES. THE MOST

01:08:46.655 --> 01:08:48.390
SERIOUS VIOLENT OFFENSES IN

01:08:48.457 --> 01:08:49.959
CALIFORNIA. IT WOULD PROHIBIT

01:08:50.025 --> 01:08:51.961
CRIME VICTIMS WHO WERE VICTIMS

01:08:52.027 --> 01:08:54.864
OF THOSE CRIMES FROM COLLECTING

01:08:54.930 --> 01:08:55.865
RESTITUTION, WHERE THE RELIEF

01:08:55.931 --> 01:08:59.168
IS GRANTED, AND IT WOULD EXPAND

01:08:59.235 --> 01:09:00.135
EXISTING AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES

01:09:00.202 --> 01:09:01.937
TO APPLY TO THE MOST VIOLENT

01:09:02.004 --> 01:09:05.541
CRIMES IN CALIFORNIA. AGAIN,

01:09:05.608 --> 01:09:08.110
EXCLUDING SOME MURDERS. SO THE

01:09:08.177 --> 01:09:10.212
CURRENT RELIEF POSITIONS,

01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:12.781
PROVISIONS PROVIDE THAT

01:09:12.848 --> 01:09:14.216
INDIVIDUALS ARRESTED OR

01:09:14.283 --> 01:09:16.752
CONVICTED OF NONVIOLENT

01:09:16.819 --> 01:09:17.887
OFFENSES WHILE THEY WERE A

01:09:17.953 --> 01:09:19.188
VICTIM OF HUMAN TRAFFICKING OR

01:09:19.255 --> 01:09:20.356
INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE OR

01:09:20.422 --> 01:09:22.691
SEXUAL VIOLENCE, CAN PETITION

01:09:22.758 --> 01:09:24.293
THE COURT FOR RELIEF.

01:09:24.360 --> 01:09:25.361
IMPORTANTLY, THOUGH, CURRENTLY

01:09:25.427 --> 01:09:27.196
BOTH PROVISIONS EXCLUDE THE

01:09:27.263 --> 01:09:29.498
MOST VIOLENT OFFENDERS. UNDER

01:09:29.565 --> 01:09:31.267
THIS BILL, RELIEF WOULD APPLY

01:09:31.333 --> 01:09:33.769
TO ALL VIOLENT OFFENSES WITH

01:09:33.836 --> 01:09:35.404
THE EXCEPTION OF SOME MURDERS.

01:09:35.471 --> 01:09:37.206
BUT FELONY MURDER WOULD STILL

01:09:37.273 --> 01:09:39.775
BE ELIGIBLE, AS WOULD RAPE,

01:09:39.842 --> 01:09:42.645
CHILD, MOLEST, KIDNAPING AND

01:09:42.711 --> 01:09:44.747
OTHERS. SECOND, IF THE RELIEF

01:09:44.813 --> 01:09:46.282
IS GRANTED UNDER THIS BILL,

01:09:46.348 --> 01:09:48.417
QUITE CONCERNING, AB 910 WOULD

01:09:48.484 --> 01:09:49.885
REQUIRE THAT ANY VICTIM

01:09:49.952 --> 01:09:51.620
RESTITUTION ORDER BE VACATED,

01:09:51.687 --> 01:09:53.022
WHICH IS FURTHER

01:09:53.088 --> 01:09:54.490
REVICTIMIZATION FOR INDIVIDUALS

01:09:54.557 --> 01:09:56.625
WHO HAVE ALREADY LOST SO MUCH.

01:09:56.692 --> 01:09:58.594
AND IT REQUIRES THAT THE ARREST

01:09:58.661 --> 01:10:00.663
OR CONVICTION BE DEEMED TO HAVE

01:10:00.729 --> 01:10:02.431
NEVER OCCURRED. WITH ALL THOSE

01:10:02.498 --> 01:10:04.600
RECORDS SEALED, EFFECTIVELY

01:10:04.667 --> 01:10:05.668
WIPING THESE HIGHLY VIOLENT

01:10:05.734 --> 01:10:08.203
CRIMES FROM THE RECORD. AND

01:10:08.270 --> 01:10:09.672
FINALLY, THE BILL EXPANDS

01:10:09.738 --> 01:10:11.073
EXISTING LIMITED AFFIRMATIVE

01:10:11.140 --> 01:10:12.808
DEFENSES TO APPLY TO THE MOST

01:10:12.875 --> 01:10:14.310
VIOLENT CRIMES. THAT MEANS THE

01:10:14.376 --> 01:10:15.411
AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSES WOULD

01:10:15.477 --> 01:10:17.546
APPLY, LIKE I SAID AGAIN, TO

01:10:17.613 --> 01:10:19.348
THE MOST VIOLENT CRIMES IN OUR

01:10:19.415 --> 01:10:21.517
SOCIETY FELONY MURDER, RAPE,

01:10:21.584 --> 01:10:23.385
CHILD MOLEST, KIDNAPING, AND

01:10:23.452 --> 01:10:25.454
MANY OTHERS. SO BECAUSE THIS

01:10:25.521 --> 01:10:27.256
BILL MANDATES SUCH A DRASTIC

01:10:27.323 --> 01:10:28.757
ACTION, EXPANDING RELIEF TO

01:10:28.824 --> 01:10:29.792
VIOLENT OFFENDERS AND

01:10:29.858 --> 01:10:31.026
NEGATIVELY IMPACTS VICTIMS

01:10:31.093 --> 01:10:33.062
RIGHTS IN THE STATE, K¾T Ã

01:10:33.128 --> 01:10:34.530
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A NO VOTE.

01:10:34.597 --> 01:10:36.065
THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER

01:10:36.131 --> 01:10:39.168
OPPOSITION WITNESSES TO AB 910,

01:10:39.234 --> 01:10:40.369
SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD TO

01:10:40.436 --> 01:10:42.237
BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS FOR

01:10:42.304 --> 01:10:43.339
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

01:10:43.405 --> 01:10:44.406
SEEING NONE, I'LL TURN IT BACK

01:10:44.473 --> 01:10:47.109
OVER TO THE AUTHOR TO CLOSE.

01:10:47.176 --> 01:10:49.612
THANK YOU. I WANT TO JUST SHARE

01:10:49.678 --> 01:10:51.914
THAT SOME FACTS THAT I THINK WE

01:10:51.981 --> 01:10:56.485
NEED TO HOLD REALLY IN MIND.

01:10:56.552 --> 01:10:58.621
74% OF INCARCERATED WOMEN

01:10:58.687 --> 01:10:59.655
CONVICTED OF MURDER OR

01:10:59.722 --> 01:11:01.423
MANSLAUGHTER EXPERIENCED

01:11:01.490 --> 01:11:02.257
INTIMATE PARTNER VIOLENCE IN

01:11:02.324 --> 01:11:04.360
THE YEAR BEFORE THEIR

01:11:04.426 --> 01:11:06.929
INCARCERATION. APPROXIMATELY 50

01:11:06.996 --> 01:11:08.664
TO 60% OF U.S. SEX TRAFFICKING

01:11:08.731 --> 01:11:11.266
SURVIVORS FIRST EXPERIENCED

01:11:11.333 --> 01:11:13.369
EXPLOITATION AS MINORS. WHAT

01:11:13.435 --> 01:11:15.471
ABOUT THE VICTIMS IN FRONT OF

01:11:15.537 --> 01:11:18.040
US? WHAT ABOUT THE SURVIVORS IN

01:11:18.107 --> 01:11:20.943
FRONT OF US? AB 910 IS A SECOND

01:11:21.010 --> 01:11:23.445
CHANCE BILL, A DIGNITY BILL.

01:11:23.512 --> 01:11:24.446
SURVIVORS SHOULD NOT SPEND

01:11:24.513 --> 01:11:27.049
THEIR LIVES PRAYING FOR ABUSE

01:11:27.116 --> 01:11:29.918
THEY ENDURED, GRANTING

01:11:29.985 --> 01:11:30.953
SURVIVORS MEANINGFUL LEGAL

01:11:31.020 --> 01:11:32.454
RELIEF CAN BREAK CYCLES OF

01:11:32.521 --> 01:11:34.223
VIOLENCE, OF POVERTY, ALLOWING

01:11:34.289 --> 01:11:36.058
SURVIVORS TO ACCESS CRITICAL

01:11:36.125 --> 01:11:37.126
RESOURCES SUCH AS HOUSING,

01:11:37.192 --> 01:11:38.927
EMPLOYMENT AND HEALING. I

01:11:38.994 --> 01:11:40.696
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.

01:11:40.763 --> 01:11:42.731
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU

01:11:42.798 --> 01:11:44.033
FOR JOINING US. THANK YOU VERY

01:11:44.099 --> 01:11:45.567
MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND TELLING

01:11:45.634 --> 01:11:47.936
YOUR YOUR VERY POWERFUL STORY

01:11:48.003 --> 01:11:49.304
OF YOUR COURAGE AND FOR ALL

01:11:49.371 --> 01:11:50.806
THAT YOU'RE DOING TO HELP OTHER

01:11:50.873 --> 01:11:53.342
VICTIMS AS WELL. SO THANK YOU.

01:11:53.409 --> 01:11:57.279
THANK YOU. OKAY. WE WILL

01:11:57.346 --> 01:12:00.549
TRANSITION TO THE NEXT BILL,

01:12:00.616 --> 01:12:03.052
WHICH IS FILE ITEM EIGHT, A B

01:12:03.118 --> 01:12:09.892
2624 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER BONTA.

01:12:09.958 --> 01:12:11.694
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS.

01:12:11.760 --> 01:12:13.128
THIS IS THE SIXTH TIME

01:12:13.195 --> 01:12:14.563
PRESENTING THIS BILL IN

01:12:14.630 --> 01:12:15.631
COMMITTEES AND POLICY

01:12:15.698 --> 01:12:17.766
COMMITTEES, SO WE'LL JUST KEEP

01:12:17.833 --> 01:12:19.234
THAT IN MIND. THANK YOU TO THE

01:12:19.301 --> 01:12:20.402
COMMITTEE AND CHAIR FOR WORKING

01:12:20.469 --> 01:12:22.237
WITH MY OFFICE ON THIS BILL. I

01:12:22.304 --> 01:12:23.472
ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS,

01:12:23.539 --> 01:12:25.107
AND I WANT TO THANK THE

01:12:25.174 --> 01:12:26.175
COMMITTEE FOR BEING ABLE TO

01:12:26.241 --> 01:12:27.876
CODIFY THE AMENDMENTS THAT WE

01:12:27.943 --> 01:12:30.045
SOUGHT TO HAVE A PART OF THIS

01:12:30.112 --> 01:12:31.547
PROCESS FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.

01:12:31.613 --> 01:12:34.349
AB 2624 THE SAFE AT WORK ACT

01:12:34.416 --> 01:12:35.818
EXPANDS CALIFORNIA'S SAFE AT

01:12:35.884 --> 01:12:37.619
HOME PROGRAM TO INCLUDE

01:12:37.686 --> 01:12:39.088
IMMIGRANT SERVICE PROVIDERS,

01:12:39.154 --> 01:12:41.223
THEIR EMPLOYEES AND VOLUNTEERS.

01:12:41.290 --> 01:12:42.624
THIS PROGRAM ALLOWS

01:12:42.691 --> 01:12:44.093
PARTICIPANTS TO USE A

01:12:44.159 --> 01:12:45.694
SUBSTITUTE ADDRESS DESIGNATED

01:12:45.761 --> 01:12:47.296
BY THE SECRETARY OF STATE,

01:12:47.362 --> 01:12:48.330
KEEPING THEIR HOME WORK AND

01:12:48.397 --> 01:12:50.165
SCHOOL ADDRESSES OUT OF PUBLIC

01:12:50.232 --> 01:12:51.800
RECORDS, WHILE STILL ALLOWING

01:12:51.867 --> 01:12:53.502
THEM TO SAFELY RECEIVE MAIL AND

01:12:53.569 --> 01:12:54.903
LEGAL DOCUMENTS THROUGHOUT THE

01:12:54.970 --> 01:12:57.372
STATE AND THROUGH THE STATE.

01:12:57.439 --> 01:12:58.841
INDIVIDUALS WHO PROVIDE VITAL

01:12:58.907 --> 01:13:00.242
IMMIGRANT SUPPORT SERVICES,

01:13:00.309 --> 01:13:02.411
INCLUDING LEGAL AID,

01:13:02.478 --> 01:13:03.545
HUMANITARIAN RELIEF, CASE

01:13:03.612 --> 01:13:05.347
MANAGEMENT AND ADVOCACY ARE

01:13:05.414 --> 01:13:07.182
FACING TARGETED HARASSMENT.

01:13:07.249 --> 01:13:09.618
THIS IS NOT HYPOTHETICAL.

01:13:09.685 --> 01:13:10.619
ADVOCATES AND WORKERS ARE

01:13:10.686 --> 01:13:11.820
RECEIVING DEATH THREATS, BEING

01:13:11.887 --> 01:13:13.622
TARGETED AT COURTHOUSES AND

01:13:13.689 --> 01:13:15.057
FACING COORDINATED ONLINE

01:13:15.124 --> 01:13:16.825
DOXING CAMPAIGNS. EVEN FACING

01:13:16.892 --> 01:13:19.128
THIS VITRIOL AT HOME, THESE

01:13:19.194 --> 01:13:20.796
THREATS HAVE RISEN SHARPLY IN

01:13:20.863 --> 01:13:22.231
2025 AND ARE EXPECTED TO

01:13:22.297 --> 01:13:24.032
CONTINUE DUE TO THE CURRENT

01:13:24.099 --> 01:13:25.734
POLITICAL CLIMATE. AT THE SAME

01:13:25.801 --> 01:13:27.603
TIME, PERSONAL INFORMATION IS

01:13:27.669 --> 01:13:29.438
INCREASINGLY EASY TO ACCESS.

01:13:29.505 --> 01:13:30.906
DATA BROKERS COLLECT AND SELL

01:13:30.973 --> 01:13:32.474
INFORMATION FROM PUBLIC RECORDS,

01:13:32.541 --> 01:13:34.543
AND SOCIAL MEDIA CAN ALLOW

01:13:34.610 --> 01:13:35.911
INDIVIDUALS TO PIECE TOGETHER

01:13:35.978 --> 01:13:37.346
IDENTIFYING DETAILS. THIS MAKES

01:13:37.412 --> 01:13:39.047
IT EASIER FOR BAD ACTORS TO

01:13:39.114 --> 01:13:40.582
THREATEN OR HARM THOSE WHO ARE

01:13:40.649 --> 01:13:42.818
SIMPLY DOING THEIR JOBS.

01:13:42.885 --> 01:13:44.586
ADVOCATES IN CALIFORNIA REPEAT

01:13:44.653 --> 01:13:47.523
BEING DOXED OF STAFF FOR STAFF

01:13:47.589 --> 01:13:49.258
AND VOLUNTEERS AT IMMIGRATION

01:13:49.324 --> 01:13:51.426
LEGAL AID ORGANIZATIONS,

01:13:51.493 --> 01:13:52.828
COORDINATED DEATH THREATS

01:13:52.895 --> 01:13:54.930
AGAINST SURVIVORS, SERVICE

01:13:54.997 --> 01:13:56.431
PROVIDERS, ANTI-IMMIGRANT

01:13:56.498 --> 01:13:58.967
VIGILANTE ACTIVITY DIRECTED AT

01:13:59.034 --> 01:14:00.369
ORGANIZATIONS BY NAME AND

01:14:00.435 --> 01:14:02.938
ADDRESS OF THEIR EMPLOYEES AND

01:14:03.005 --> 01:14:05.440
VOLUNTEERS. SINCE SINCE ITS

01:14:05.507 --> 01:14:07.009
INCEPTION NEARLY 30 YEARS AGO,

01:14:07.075 --> 01:14:08.710
THE SAFE AT HOME PROGRAM HAS

01:14:08.777 --> 01:14:10.145
PROTECTED THOUSANDS OF VICTIMS

01:14:10.212 --> 01:14:11.580
OF STALKING AND DOMESTIC

01:14:11.647 --> 01:14:13.382
VIOLENCE VICTIMS, ALONG WITH

01:14:13.448 --> 01:14:14.817
REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH CARE

01:14:14.883 --> 01:14:16.952
WORKERS. THE CONFIDENTIALITY

01:14:17.019 --> 01:14:18.787
PROGRAM PROTECTION PROGRAM IS

01:14:18.854 --> 01:14:20.055
SIMPLE IT PROVIDES PARTICIPANTS

01:14:20.122 --> 01:14:21.256
WITH A SUBSTITUTE ADDRESS TO

01:14:21.323 --> 01:14:23.091
SHIELD THEIR REAL ADDRESSES,

01:14:23.158 --> 01:14:24.259
REQUIRES THE SECRETARY OF STATE

01:14:24.326 --> 01:14:26.662
TO ACT AS AN INTERMEDIARY FOR

01:14:26.728 --> 01:14:28.130
MAIL AND LEGAL SERVICE,

01:14:28.197 --> 01:14:29.164
FORWARDING DOCUMENTS WITHIN A

01:14:29.231 --> 01:14:31.767
SHORT TIME FRAME, KEEPING

01:14:31.834 --> 01:14:33.202
INDIVIDUALS, PARTICIPANTS, HOME,

01:14:33.268 --> 01:14:34.970
WORK AND SCHOOL ADDRESSES

01:14:35.037 --> 01:14:36.038
CONFIDENTIAL AND PROTECTED FROM

01:14:36.104 --> 01:14:37.606
PUBLIC DISCLOSURE. THIS BILL IS

01:14:37.673 --> 01:14:39.308
VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD. HERE TO

01:14:39.374 --> 01:14:40.742
TESTIFY ARE MONICA MADRID WITH

01:14:40.809 --> 01:14:41.810
THE COALITION FOR HUMANE

01:14:41.877 --> 01:14:43.278
IMMIGRANT RIGHTS. MONICA IS

01:14:43.345 --> 01:14:45.047
ALSO AN IMMIGRANT ECONOMIC

01:14:45.113 --> 01:14:46.148
JUSTICE FELLOW WITH THE SALAS

01:14:46.215 --> 01:14:47.282
POLICY INSTITUTE, WITH THE

01:14:47.349 --> 01:14:48.617
WOMEN'S FOUNDATION OF

01:14:48.684 --> 01:14:50.853
CALIFORNIA. AND KAREN STOUT ON

01:14:50.919 --> 01:14:52.254
BEHALF OF POWER CALIFORNIA

01:14:52.321 --> 01:14:54.323
ACTION. THANK YOU FOR BEING

01:14:54.389 --> 01:14:55.490
HERE TODAY. YOU EACH HAVE TWO

01:14:55.557 --> 01:14:58.393
MINUTES. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR

01:14:58.460 --> 01:15:00.195
AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS MONICA

01:15:00.262 --> 01:15:01.663
MADRID. I'M A STATE POLICY

01:15:01.730 --> 01:15:02.764
ADVOCATE WITH THE COALITION FOR

01:15:02.831 --> 01:15:04.466
HUMANE IMMIGRANT RIGHTS, OR

01:15:04.533 --> 01:15:06.301
CHIRLA AND IMMIGRANT ECONOMIC

01:15:06.368 --> 01:15:07.736
JUSTICE FELLOW WITH THE SALAS

01:15:07.803 --> 01:15:09.137
POLICY INSTITUTE AT THE WOMEN'S

01:15:09.204 --> 01:15:10.973
FOUNDATION. I'M HERE AS A PROUD

01:15:11.039 --> 01:15:13.108
CO-SPONSOR OF AB 2624 BY

01:15:13.175 --> 01:15:16.345
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BONTA. AB 2624

01:15:16.411 --> 01:15:17.846
EXPANDS CALIFORNIA SAFE AT HOME

01:15:17.913 --> 01:15:19.248
PROGRAM TO INCLUDE IMMIGRANT

01:15:19.314 --> 01:15:20.682
SERVING ORGANIZATIONS AND

01:15:20.749 --> 01:15:22.084
WORKERS WHO FACE GROWING

01:15:22.150 --> 01:15:23.919
THREATS. BECAUSE OF THE

01:15:23.986 --> 01:15:26.054
COMMUNITIES THAT WE SERVE. FOR

01:15:26.121 --> 01:15:27.189
ORGANIZATIONS LIKE CHIRLA,

01:15:27.256 --> 01:15:28.257
THESE THREATS ARE NOT

01:15:28.323 --> 01:15:29.358
THEORETICAL. WE HAVE

01:15:29.424 --> 01:15:31.460
EXPERIENCED INCIDENCES WHERE

01:15:31.526 --> 01:15:32.995
INDIVIDUALS FOLLOWED STAFF INTO

01:15:33.061 --> 01:15:34.730
OUR SACRAMENTO AND SAN

01:15:34.796 --> 01:15:35.797
BERNARDINO OFFICES. BECAUSE OF

01:15:35.864 --> 01:15:37.633
THE WORK WE DO SUPPORTING

01:15:37.699 --> 01:15:40.102
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES AT OUR LA

01:15:40.168 --> 01:15:41.536
OFFICES. INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN

01:15:41.603 --> 01:15:45.874
FOLLOWED MULTIPLE TIMES NOW BY

01:15:45.941 --> 01:15:47.709
STAFF INTO THE BUILDING AND

01:15:47.776 --> 01:15:49.077
ATTEMPTED TO ACCESS OUR

01:15:49.144 --> 01:15:51.313
RESTRICTED AREAS. OUR INTAKE

01:15:51.380 --> 01:15:52.681
LINES HAVE RECEIVED THREATENING

01:15:52.748 --> 01:15:54.516
MESSAGES AND INDIVIDUALS HAVE

01:15:54.583 --> 01:15:57.386
EVEN SHOWN UP AT THE HOME OF A

01:15:57.452 --> 01:15:59.221
FAMILY MEMBER OF OUR EXECUTIVE

01:15:59.288 --> 01:16:02.090
DIRECTOR LOOKING FOR HER. THESE

01:16:02.157 --> 01:16:03.492
INCIDENCES ARE OCCURRING DURING

01:16:03.558 --> 01:16:04.960
A HEIGHTENED TIME OF HOSTILITY

01:16:05.027 --> 01:16:08.163
TOWARD IMMIGRANTS AND THE

01:16:08.230 --> 01:16:09.631
ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE THEM

01:16:09.698 --> 01:16:11.500
AS IMMIGRANT. AS IMMIGRANT.

01:16:11.566 --> 01:16:13.068
SERVING ORGANIZATIONS CONTINUE

01:16:13.135 --> 01:16:15.037
TO PROVIDE LEGAL SERVICES. KNOW

01:16:15.103 --> 01:16:17.205
YOUR RIGHTS, EDUCATION, RAPID

01:16:17.272 --> 01:16:20.142
RESPONSE, AND HUMANITARIAN

01:16:20.208 --> 01:16:21.576
ASSISTANCE. STAFF ARE

01:16:21.643 --> 01:16:22.711
INCREASINGLY CONCERNED ABOUT

01:16:22.778 --> 01:16:24.880
THEIR PERSONAL INFORMATION, AND

01:16:24.947 --> 01:16:26.515
IT COULD BE USED TO HARASS AND

01:16:26.581 --> 01:16:28.383
INTIMIDATE OR HARM THEM AND

01:16:28.450 --> 01:16:31.053
THEIR FAMILIES. AB 2624

01:16:31.119 --> 01:16:33.121
PROVIDES A PRACTICAL, PROVEN

01:16:33.188 --> 01:16:34.923
SOLUTION BY ALLOWING ELIGIBLE

01:16:34.990 --> 01:16:35.924
INDIVIDUALS TO PARTICIPATE IN

01:16:35.991 --> 01:16:37.659
THE SAFE AT HOME PROGRAM. THIS

01:16:37.726 --> 01:16:39.561
BILL HELPS PROTECT HOME ADDRESS

01:16:39.628 --> 01:16:40.862
INFORMATION WHILE PRESERVING

01:16:40.929 --> 01:16:43.198
PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY AND

01:16:43.265 --> 01:16:44.199
TRANSPARENCY. NO ONE SHOULD

01:16:44.266 --> 01:16:45.734
HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN SERVING

01:16:45.801 --> 01:16:47.369
THEIR COMMUNITY AND PROTECTING

01:16:47.436 --> 01:16:49.271
THEIR FAMILY SAFETY. CALIFORNIA

01:16:49.338 --> 01:16:50.739
HAS LONG RECOGNIZED THAT

01:16:50.806 --> 01:16:52.507
CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS FACE

01:16:52.574 --> 01:16:53.976
ELEVATED RISKS BECAUSE OF THEIR

01:16:54.042 --> 01:16:55.410
WORK, AND IMMIGRANT SERVING

01:16:55.477 --> 01:16:56.545
ORGANIZATIONS DESERVE ACCESS TO

01:16:56.611 --> 01:16:57.913
THESE SAME PROTECTIONS. THANK

01:16:57.980 --> 01:16:59.081
YOU, AND WE RESPECTFULLY ASK

01:16:59.147 --> 01:17:00.849
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU VERY

01:17:00.916 --> 01:17:03.518
MUCH. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR,

01:17:03.585 --> 01:17:04.786
AND GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND

01:17:04.853 --> 01:17:05.821
MEMBERS, KAREN STOUT HERE ON

01:17:05.887 --> 01:17:07.789
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA ACTION.

01:17:07.856 --> 01:17:08.991
FOR PERMISSION, I'D LIKE TO

01:17:09.057 --> 01:17:10.158
READ THE TESTIMONY OF RUSSO AND

01:17:10.225 --> 01:17:11.593
MARTINEZ, FELLOW WITH THE SOLIS

01:17:11.660 --> 01:17:13.061
POLICY INSTITUTE, CO-SPONSORS

01:17:13.128 --> 01:17:14.496
OF THE BILL, AS WELL AS THE

01:17:14.563 --> 01:17:15.664
SENIOR POLICY STRATEGIST WITH

01:17:15.731 --> 01:17:17.733
CALIFORNIA ACTION POWER.

01:17:17.799 --> 01:17:18.834
CALIFORNIA ACTION SERVES YOUNG

01:17:18.900 --> 01:17:19.901
PEOPLE AND WORKING FAMILIES

01:17:19.968 --> 01:17:21.269
WITH DEEP ROOTS IN IMMIGRANT

01:17:21.336 --> 01:17:22.771
COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE.

01:17:22.838 --> 01:17:23.972
AS THE DAUGHTER OF IMMIGRANTS

01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:24.906
AND AS SOMEONE WHO WORKS

01:17:24.973 --> 01:17:25.974
CLOSELY WITH OTHER

01:17:26.041 --> 01:17:27.442
ORGANIZATIONS, MANY HAVE BECOME

01:17:27.509 --> 01:17:28.076
INCREASINGLY CONCERNED WITH THE

01:17:28.143 --> 01:17:29.578
SAFETY OF THEIR STAFF,

01:17:29.644 --> 01:17:30.645
VOLUNTEERS, AND COMMUNITY

01:17:30.712 --> 01:17:32.047
LEADERS. TO ECHO THE COMMENTS

01:17:32.114 --> 01:17:33.148
OF MY FELLOW SPEAKER, THESE

01:17:33.215 --> 01:17:34.983
CONCERNS ARE NOT HYPOTHETICAL.

01:17:35.050 --> 01:17:36.518
IN THE PAST YEAR, POWER

01:17:36.585 --> 01:17:37.486
CALIFORNIA ACTION BOARD MEMBERS

01:17:37.552 --> 01:17:38.820
HAVE BEEN TARGETED AND DOXED

01:17:38.887 --> 01:17:39.988
FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO IN

01:17:40.055 --> 01:17:41.823
THEIR COMMUNITIES. WE HAVE HAD

01:17:41.890 --> 01:17:42.791
TO BECOME MORE INTENTIONAL

01:17:42.858 --> 01:17:43.792
ABOUT PROTECTING THE PRIVACY

01:17:43.859 --> 01:17:45.127
AND SECURITY OF OUR STAFF, OUR

01:17:45.193 --> 01:17:46.228
YOUTH LEADERS, AND EVEN THE

01:17:46.294 --> 01:17:47.629
STAFF OF OUR PARTNER

01:17:47.696 --> 01:17:48.730
ORGANIZATIONS, WHICH DIVERTS

01:17:48.797 --> 01:17:50.165
TIME, ENERGY AND RESOURCES AWAY

01:17:50.232 --> 01:17:51.666
FROM OUR CORE WORK. AND WE

01:17:51.733 --> 01:17:52.934
AREN'T THE ONLY ORGANIZATION

01:17:53.001 --> 01:17:54.069
TAKING THESE PRECAUTIONARY

01:17:54.136 --> 01:17:55.871
MEASURES. WE'RE ALSO CONCERNED

01:17:55.937 --> 01:17:56.972
ABOUT THE MESSAGE THIS SENDS

01:17:57.039 --> 01:17:58.407
THE NEXT GENERATION OF

01:17:58.473 --> 01:18:00.542
IMMIGRANT IMMIGRATION ADVOCATES,

01:18:00.609 --> 01:18:01.643
ATTORNEYS, ORGANIZERS, AND

01:18:01.710 --> 01:18:03.045
SERVICE PROVIDERS. WE WORK

01:18:03.111 --> 01:18:04.513
CLOSELY WITH YOUNG PEOPLE WHO

01:18:04.579 --> 01:18:05.580
WANT TO PURSUE CAREERS IN

01:18:05.647 --> 01:18:07.015
PUBLIC SERVICE AND COMMUNITY

01:18:07.082 --> 01:18:08.617
ADVOCACY. WHEN THEY SEE PEOPLE

01:18:08.683 --> 01:18:10.252
BEING HARASSED, THREATENED, OR

01:18:10.318 --> 01:18:11.720
DOXED SIMPLY FOR HELPING

01:18:11.787 --> 01:18:13.155
IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES ACCESS

01:18:13.221 --> 01:18:14.589
SERVICES AND EXERCISE THEIR

01:18:14.656 --> 01:18:15.724
RIGHTS, THESE CAREERS BEGAN TO

01:18:15.791 --> 01:18:17.826
FEEL UNSAFE AND UNATTAINABLE.

01:18:17.893 --> 01:18:19.528
PRIVACY IS NOT AN ABSTRACT

01:18:19.594 --> 01:18:21.063
ISSUE FOR MANY PEOPLE. IT IS

01:18:21.129 --> 01:18:22.164
WHAT ALLOWS THEM TO CONTINUE

01:18:22.230 --> 01:18:23.131
SHOWING UP FOR THEIR

01:18:23.198 --> 01:18:24.132
COMMUNITIES WITHOUT WORRYING

01:18:24.199 --> 01:18:25.233
THAT THEY OR THEIR FAMILIES

01:18:25.300 --> 01:18:26.301
WILL BECOME TARGETS. IT'S WHAT

01:18:26.368 --> 01:18:27.402
ALLOWS IMMIGRANT COMMUNITIES TO

01:18:27.469 --> 01:18:28.603
FEEL SAFE, SEEKING THE

01:18:28.670 --> 01:18:30.138
RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED. FOR

01:18:30.205 --> 01:18:31.540
THESE REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY

01:18:31.606 --> 01:18:34.042
ASK FOR YOUR. I VOTE ON AB 2624.

01:18:34.109 --> 01:18:35.477
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:18:35.544 --> 01:18:36.545
WE'LL INVITE ANYONE ELSE

01:18:36.611 --> 01:18:37.979
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR

01:18:38.046 --> 01:18:40.048
AB 2624 TO. PLEASE APPROACH THE

01:18:40.115 --> 01:18:41.616
MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME,

01:18:41.683 --> 01:18:42.484
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION ON

01:18:42.551 --> 01:18:43.885
THE BILL. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR

01:18:43.952 --> 01:18:45.520
AND MEMBERS. JESSICA HèA WITH

01:18:45.587 --> 01:18:46.655
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. THANK

01:18:46.721 --> 01:18:49.157
YOU. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR

01:18:49.224 --> 01:18:50.158
MEMBERS, CLEO BLUTHENTHAL ON

01:18:50.225 --> 01:18:51.326
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

01:18:51.393 --> 01:18:52.727
COMMUNITY FOUNDATION AND STRONG

01:18:52.794 --> 01:18:54.896
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR

01:18:54.963 --> 01:18:56.665
MEMBERS WITH THE CALIFORNIA

01:18:56.731 --> 01:18:57.799
CHAPTER OF THE COUNCIL ON

01:18:57.866 --> 01:18:58.867
AMERICAN ISLAMIC RELATIONS AND

01:18:58.934 --> 01:19:00.769
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD

01:19:00.836 --> 01:19:02.070
MORNING, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS

01:19:02.137 --> 01:19:03.538
OF THE CALIFORNIA IMMIGRANT

01:19:03.605 --> 01:19:04.806
POLICY CENTER IN STRONG SUPPORT.

01:19:04.873 --> 01:19:08.944
THANK YOU. MIKE. HAROLD WITH

01:19:09.010 --> 01:19:10.378
THE WOMEN'S FOUNDATION OF

01:19:10.445 --> 01:19:11.446
CALIFORNIA. I'M THE MENTOR TO

01:19:11.513 --> 01:19:14.015
THIS TEAM, AND I'M ALSO HERE IN

01:19:14.082 --> 01:19:15.417
SUPPORT WITH THE ASIAN

01:19:15.484 --> 01:19:17.219
AMERICANS ADVANCING JUSTICE,

01:19:17.285 --> 01:19:18.687
JUSTICE OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA

01:19:18.753 --> 01:19:21.156
IN CHILDHOOD POVERTY. UNIDOS,

01:19:21.223 --> 01:19:24.092
U.S. MISSION ECONOMIC

01:19:24.159 --> 01:19:26.928
DEVELOPMENT AGENCY AND CRACK.

01:19:26.995 --> 01:19:28.363
AND WE ARE CHEN I VOTE THANK

01:19:28.430 --> 01:19:32.767
YOU. GOOD MORNING, SANDRA, ON

01:19:32.834 --> 01:19:34.202
BEHALF OF WESTERN CENTER ON LAW

01:19:34.269 --> 01:19:38.773
AND POVERTY IN SUPPORT. GOOD

01:19:38.840 --> 01:19:40.609
MORNING. ON BEHALF OF ASIAN

01:19:40.675 --> 01:19:41.743
AMERICANS ADVANCING JUSTICE IN

01:19:41.810 --> 01:19:46.748
SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA. IN SUPPORT.

01:19:46.815 --> 01:19:47.816
MALCOLM ROOKS, ON BEHALF OF

01:19:47.883 --> 01:19:48.884
CALIFORNIA. SAFETY AND JUSTICE

01:19:48.950 --> 01:19:52.787
AND SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING.

01:19:52.854 --> 01:19:54.256
EDITOR LITTLE ON BEHALF OF

01:19:54.322 --> 01:19:55.390
CRIME SURVIVORS. SPEAK IN

01:19:55.457 --> 01:19:59.027
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING. BUENOS

01:19:59.094 --> 01:20:00.462
DIAS. ISRAEL VILLA WITH THE

01:20:00.529 --> 01:20:01.463
CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE FOR YOUTH

01:20:01.530 --> 01:20:02.464
AND COMMUNITY JUSTICE AND

01:20:02.531 --> 01:20:07.636
STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU. JOSH.

01:20:07.702 --> 01:20:09.171
PROUD SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY

01:20:09.237 --> 01:20:10.739
MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO

01:20:10.805 --> 01:20:13.341
EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR AB 2624

01:20:13.408 --> 01:20:14.342
COALITION TO ABOLISH SLAVERY

01:20:14.409 --> 01:20:15.343
AND TRAFFICKING AND SUPPORT.

01:20:15.410 --> 01:20:17.746
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SEEING NO

01:20:17.812 --> 01:20:19.247
ONE ELSE COME FORWARD WILL NOW

01:20:19.314 --> 01:20:20.949
TAKE UP TO TWO PRINCIPAL

01:20:21.016 --> 01:20:22.350
OPPOSITION WITNESSES TO THE

01:20:22.417 --> 01:20:40.035
BILL. OPPOSITION? YES. AND YOU

01:20:40.101 --> 01:20:42.604
EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES TO

01:20:42.671 --> 01:20:49.477
ADDRESS THE COMMITTEE. YOU HAVE

01:20:49.544 --> 01:20:52.080
TO PRESS THE BUTTON. SORRY,

01:20:52.147 --> 01:20:55.517
IT'S MY FIRST TIME. I LIKE THE

01:20:55.584 --> 01:20:56.918
RECORD TO BE NOTED THAT IT DOES

01:20:56.985 --> 01:20:59.120
SMELL LIKE FISH IN HERE. DON'T

01:20:59.187 --> 01:21:00.589
KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT

01:21:00.655 --> 01:21:02.657
THERE'S A SMELL FUNNY IN HERE,

01:21:02.724 --> 01:21:06.428
SO. THE STOP NICK SHIRLEY ACT,

01:21:06.494 --> 01:21:10.232
ALSO KNOWN AS AB 2624, IS A

01:21:10.298 --> 01:21:12.100
HORRIBLE BILL. AND IT'S

01:21:12.167 --> 01:21:13.168
IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND

01:21:13.235 --> 01:21:15.337
WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

01:21:15.403 --> 01:21:17.472
FIRST OF ALL, THE NARRATIVE

01:21:17.539 --> 01:21:19.608
THAT THESE FRAUDSTERS WHO HAVE

01:21:19.674 --> 01:21:21.042
STOLEN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM

01:21:21.109 --> 01:21:23.979
AMERICAN FAMILIES ARE BEING

01:21:24.045 --> 01:21:25.146
HARASSED AND THREATENED, QUITE

01:21:25.213 --> 01:21:26.681
THE OPPOSITE, THE PEOPLE WHO

01:21:26.748 --> 01:21:28.316
ARE EXPOSING THE FRAUD. IF YOU

01:21:28.383 --> 01:21:29.751
CAN, PLEASE DIRECT YOUR

01:21:29.818 --> 01:21:30.785
TESTIMONY. YEAH. SORRY ABOUT

01:21:30.852 --> 01:21:31.886
THAT COMMITTEE. YOU'RE SPEAKING

01:21:31.953 --> 01:21:34.389
TO THE COMMITTEE? YES, SIR. SO

01:21:34.456 --> 01:21:36.258
PLEASE EXERCISE SOME DECORUM IN

01:21:36.324 --> 01:21:37.259
THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU'RE

01:21:37.325 --> 01:21:38.393
ADDRESSING MORE RESPECTFUL. YES,

01:21:38.460 --> 01:21:41.196
SIR. SO THE NARRATIVE THAT HAS

01:21:41.263 --> 01:21:43.031
BEEN PRESENTED TODAY IS

01:21:43.098 --> 01:21:45.300
EXTREMELY FALSE. PEOPLE SUCH AS

01:21:45.367 --> 01:21:46.301
NICK SHIRLEY AND OTHER

01:21:46.368 --> 01:21:47.269
INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISTS WHO

01:21:47.335 --> 01:21:49.170
HAVE EXPOSED THIS FRAUD,

01:21:49.237 --> 01:21:50.972
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS STOLEN FROM

01:21:51.039 --> 01:21:52.507
AMERICAN FAMILIES, THEY'RE THE

01:21:52.574 --> 01:21:54.209
ONES BEING THREATENED, HARASSED

01:21:54.276 --> 01:21:56.011
AND DOXXED. THERE ARE THESE

01:21:56.077 --> 01:21:57.145
MAFIAS THAT WORK HAND IN HAND

01:21:57.212 --> 01:21:58.346
WITH THESE CORRUPT NONPROFITS

01:21:58.413 --> 01:22:01.116
AND ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEY

01:22:01.182 --> 01:22:02.817
HAVE FOLLOWED ME HOME AS WELL.

01:22:02.884 --> 01:22:06.054
SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT COMES TO

01:22:06.121 --> 01:22:07.188
PEOPLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY

01:22:07.255 --> 01:22:08.857
THEY'RE BEING HARASSED, MAYBE

01:22:08.923 --> 01:22:10.325
IT'S BECAUSE THE MILLIONS OF

01:22:10.392 --> 01:22:11.493
DOLLARS THEY'VE STOLEN FROM

01:22:11.559 --> 01:22:13.028
AMERICAN FAMILIES, THEY DON'T

01:22:13.094 --> 01:22:14.396
HAVE A GUILTY CONSCIENCE, WHICH

01:22:14.462 --> 01:22:15.597
MEANS THEY PROBABLY DON'T HAVE

01:22:15.664 --> 01:22:17.966
A SOUL. THIS BILL ONLY CAME

01:22:18.033 --> 01:22:19.801
ABOUT AFTER THE MILLIONS OF

01:22:19.868 --> 01:22:21.569
DOLLARS OF FRAUD WAS EXPOSED.

01:22:21.636 --> 01:22:22.971
THIS BILL DIDN'T COME ABOUT

01:22:23.038 --> 01:22:24.439
BEFOREHAND. IT CAME AFTERWARDS.

01:22:24.506 --> 01:22:25.507
IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE

01:22:25.573 --> 01:22:26.441
UNDERSTAND THE CHRONOLOGICAL

01:22:26.508 --> 01:22:27.609
ORDER OF THINGS AND THE

01:22:27.676 --> 01:22:29.444
SEQUENCE OF EVENTS, AS WELL AS

01:22:29.511 --> 01:22:31.313
THE, YOU KNOW, BLATANT CONFLICT

01:22:31.379 --> 01:22:33.081
OF INTEREST THAT'S HAPPENING

01:22:33.148 --> 01:22:34.215
BEHIND THE SCENES. WE DON'T

01:22:34.282 --> 01:22:35.383
NEED TO GET INTO TOO MUCH

01:22:35.450 --> 01:22:38.453
PILLOW TALK ABOUT ALL THAT.

01:22:38.520 --> 01:22:39.888
NICK SHIRLEY IS A YOUNG

01:22:39.954 --> 01:22:41.456
AMERICAN PATRIOT. HE'S A HERO.

01:22:41.523 --> 01:22:44.025
HE CAME TO CALIFORNIA TO EXPOSE

01:22:44.092 --> 01:22:45.226
THE FRAUD AND CORRUPTION, WHICH

01:22:45.293 --> 01:22:46.728
IS JUST LIKE MINNESOTA

01:22:46.795 --> 01:22:48.563
HAPPENING IN OUR STATE AS WELL.

01:22:48.630 --> 01:22:50.365
AND INSTEAD OF CALIFORNIA

01:22:50.432 --> 01:22:52.167
LEADERS THANKING HIM AND

01:22:52.233 --> 01:22:53.234
ACTUALLY SOLVING THE PROBLEM

01:22:53.301 --> 01:22:54.869
AND ADDRESSING THE CORRUPTION

01:22:54.936 --> 01:22:56.504
AND FRAUD, WHICH IS AS

01:22:56.571 --> 01:22:59.341
WIDESPREAD AS IT IS RAMPANT.

01:22:59.407 --> 01:23:01.142
I'VE BEEN TO THE AMAZON

01:23:01.209 --> 01:23:02.277
RAINFOREST, NEW ORLEANS. I'VE

01:23:02.344 --> 01:23:03.545
BEEN TO EVERY SWAMP AROUND THE

01:23:03.611 --> 01:23:05.480
BEND. THIS SACRAMENTO SWAMP

01:23:05.547 --> 01:23:08.383
NEEDS A GOOD DRAINING. WE THE

01:23:08.450 --> 01:23:10.151
PEOPLE EXPECT OUR CALIFORNIA

01:23:10.218 --> 01:23:11.886
LEADERS TO BE OPEN AND HONEST.

01:23:11.953 --> 01:23:14.222
WE DEMAND TRANSPARENCY. WE

01:23:14.289 --> 01:23:16.091
DON'T WANT OUR LEADERS COVERING

01:23:16.157 --> 01:23:17.325
THEIR TRACKS OR THEIR TRAILS

01:23:17.392 --> 01:23:18.927
BECAUSE THEY BUILT A HOUSE OF

01:23:18.993 --> 01:23:20.228
CARDS BUILT ON CORRUPTION AND

01:23:20.295 --> 01:23:23.832
FRAUD. ATTACKING THE TRUTH IS,

01:23:23.898 --> 01:23:26.334
IS EXTREMELY HARMFUL FOR OUR

01:23:26.401 --> 01:23:27.435
REPUBLIC. SIR, IF YOU COULD

01:23:27.502 --> 01:23:29.504
PLEASE WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS,

01:23:29.571 --> 01:23:32.474
WE'D APPRECIATE IT. YES, SIR.

01:23:32.540 --> 01:23:34.309
WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND THAT YOU

01:23:34.376 --> 01:23:35.510
GUYS DO EVERYTHING IN YOUR

01:23:35.577 --> 01:23:37.145
POWER TO STOP THIS BILL. IT IS

01:23:37.212 --> 01:23:38.646
AN ATTACK ON FREEDOM OF SPEECH

01:23:38.713 --> 01:23:40.115
AND FREEDOM OF THE PRESS. AND

01:23:40.181 --> 01:23:41.516
OUR FOUNDING FATHERS, AS WELL

01:23:41.583 --> 01:23:42.584
AS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, ARE

01:23:42.650 --> 01:23:43.985
WATCHING YOU AND EVERYTHING YOU

01:23:44.052 --> 01:23:45.987
DO. AND I SINCERELY HOPE THAT

01:23:46.054 --> 01:23:47.622
YOU WOULD HOLD THESE FRAUDSTERS

01:23:47.689 --> 01:23:49.023
ACCOUNTABLE. THIS IS NOT AN

01:23:49.090 --> 01:23:51.226
ATTACK ON AN ON IMMIGRANTS. I

01:23:51.292 --> 01:23:53.361
LOVE PEOPLE OF ALL RACES AND

01:23:53.428 --> 01:23:55.597
RELIGIONS. THIS IS ABOUT FRAUD

01:23:55.663 --> 01:23:56.965
AND CORRUPTION. THIS IS NOT

01:23:57.031 --> 01:23:58.566
ABOUT WHAT RACE OR RELIGION YOU

01:23:58.633 --> 01:24:00.335
ARE. THE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS

01:24:00.402 --> 01:24:01.803
THAT WERE STOLEN WERE STOLEN

01:24:01.870 --> 01:24:03.104
FROM DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN

01:24:03.171 --> 01:24:04.139
FAMILIES. DIDN'T MATTER WHAT

01:24:04.205 --> 01:24:05.373
SIDE OF THE AISLE YOU WERE ON.

01:24:05.440 --> 01:24:10.245
THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM. HI. TARA

01:24:10.311 --> 01:24:11.279
THORNTON, FREEDOM ANGELS. I

01:24:11.346 --> 01:24:13.148
WASN'T PREPARED TO SPEAK TODAY,

01:24:13.214 --> 01:24:16.684
BUT I FEEL LIKE I NEED TO AGAIN.

01:24:16.751 --> 01:24:18.186
ALWAYS AGAINST HATE, AGAINST

01:24:18.253 --> 01:24:19.988
ANY PEOPLE, IMMIGRANTS,

01:24:20.054 --> 01:24:21.790
CITIZENS, WHOEVER THEY ARE. BUT

01:24:21.856 --> 01:24:23.558
THIS BILL READS LIKE SOMETHING

01:24:23.625 --> 01:24:25.760
ELSE. AND AND SO I WANT TO TALK

01:24:25.827 --> 01:24:26.995
ABOUT SOME OF THE DETAILS, LIKE,

01:24:27.061 --> 01:24:28.997
YOU KNOW, THIS BILL ATTACKS

01:24:29.063 --> 01:24:31.132
LIKE STANDARD INVESTIGATIVE

01:24:31.199 --> 01:24:32.200
TECHNIQUES, WHICH IS LIKE

01:24:32.267 --> 01:24:33.668
PUBLIC VIDEOTAPING OF

01:24:33.735 --> 01:24:35.804
GOVERNMENT CONTRACTED

01:24:35.870 --> 01:24:37.238
FACILITIES. AND IN THE LAST

01:24:37.305 --> 01:24:38.706
COUPLE OF YEARS, WHEN IT'S BEEN

01:24:38.773 --> 01:24:40.542
EXPOSED, LIKE WIDESPREAD FRAUD

01:24:40.608 --> 01:24:43.745
IN THE HOSPICE, WELFARE, HEALTH

01:24:43.812 --> 01:24:45.580
SERVICES, EDUCATION, IT HAS

01:24:45.647 --> 01:24:46.748
SHOCKED AMERICA BECAUSE THESE

01:24:46.815 --> 01:24:48.783
ARE PUBLIC FUNDS. AND SO I

01:24:48.850 --> 01:24:50.151
THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A WAY

01:24:50.218 --> 01:24:52.020
TO GET AT PROTECTING PEOPLE,

01:24:52.086 --> 01:24:53.855
BUT ALSO GOING AFTER THE BAD

01:24:53.922 --> 01:24:55.256
ACTORS. WE TALKED ABOUT BAD

01:24:55.323 --> 01:24:56.357
ACTORS, BUT THERE ARE BAD

01:24:56.424 --> 01:24:58.159
ACTORS. THIS FRAUD HAS BEEN

01:24:58.226 --> 01:25:00.195
EXPOSED AND IT NEEDS TO BE

01:25:00.261 --> 01:25:02.063
PROTECTED. THE BILL GOES VERY

01:25:02.130 --> 01:25:03.832
INTO THE INTENT TO HARM. IT

01:25:03.898 --> 01:25:05.733
GOES OVER VERY HARSH PENALTIES

01:25:05.800 --> 01:25:07.535
FOR INTENT TO HARM. INTENT TO

01:25:07.602 --> 01:25:08.937
HARM WILL BE BROUGHT IS BROADLY

01:25:09.003 --> 01:25:10.405
GOING TO BE INTERPRETED BY THE

01:25:10.472 --> 01:25:12.207
COURTS, COULD INCLUDE GOING

01:25:12.273 --> 01:25:14.008
AGAINST SOMEONE'S REPUTATION OR

01:25:14.075 --> 01:25:15.210
HURTING THEIR FINANCES. WELL,

01:25:15.276 --> 01:25:17.412
IF YOU'RE EXPOSING SOMEONE WHO

01:25:17.479 --> 01:25:19.514
IS PERPETRATING FRAUD, THAT

01:25:19.581 --> 01:25:20.849
STILL DOES HURT THEIR

01:25:20.915 --> 01:25:22.050
REPUTATION AND THEIR FINANCES.

01:25:22.116 --> 01:25:24.085
AND SO HOW DO WE GET AT THE

01:25:24.152 --> 01:25:25.487
PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE WHEN

01:25:25.553 --> 01:25:26.955
THEY SAW THESE EXPOSES, THEY

01:25:27.021 --> 01:25:29.123
WANTED TO SEE AMERICA. YOU KNOW,

01:25:29.190 --> 01:25:30.525
OUR ELECTEDS OF EVERY PARTY

01:25:30.592 --> 01:25:32.727
WORK TO STOP THIS. WE CAN

01:25:32.794 --> 01:25:34.162
ALWAYS STOP HATE TOO. BUT WE'VE

01:25:34.229 --> 01:25:36.064
GOT TO STOP THE BAD ACTORS ON

01:25:36.130 --> 01:25:39.467
THE FRAUD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:25:39.534 --> 01:25:40.568
OKAY. WE'LL INVITE ANYONE ELSE

01:25:40.635 --> 01:25:43.137
WISHING TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION

01:25:43.204 --> 01:25:45.573
TO AB 2624 TO PLEASE APPROACH

01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:46.641
THE MICROPHONE. IF YOU CAN

01:25:46.708 --> 01:25:47.809
STATE YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION

01:25:47.876 --> 01:25:49.277
OR WHAT CITY YOU'RE FROM, YOUR

01:25:49.344 --> 01:25:51.412
POSITION ON THE BILL. LESLIE

01:25:51.479 --> 01:25:53.248
SAWYER, MOUNTAIN TOP MEDIA,

01:25:53.314 --> 01:25:54.282
INDEPENDENT JOURNALIST AND

01:25:54.349 --> 01:25:59.721
STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.

01:25:59.787 --> 01:26:01.155
JORDAN BRYCE, POLITICAL

01:26:01.222 --> 01:26:06.461
COMMENTATOR IN OPPOSITION. WITH

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CALIFORNIA FAMILY LAW, NAKED

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TRUTH. AND I AM IN OPPOSITION.

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE

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ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

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OPPOSITION TO AB 2624? IF THERE

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IS ANYONE OUTSIDE OF THE

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HEARING ROOM, WE ARE INVITING

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ANY OPPOSITION WITNESSES FOR AB

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2624. NO, SIR. YOU ALREADY

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SPOKE. ONCE AGAIN. ANY

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OPPOSITION WITNESSES? SEEING NO

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ONE COME FORWARD, I'LL BRING IT

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BACK TO THE DAIS FOR QUESTIONS

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AND COMMENTS. THANK YOU, VICE

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CHAIR. THANK YOU SIR. WELL,

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LET'S JUST ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT

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IN THE ROOM. WE ALL KNOW WHAT

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THIS IS ABOUT. AND AND AND WHAT

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GENERATED THE INTEREST IN DOING

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A BILL LIKE THIS. AND EVEN

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THOUGH THE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE

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QUESTIONED THE. THE MANNER OF,

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OF THE PRESENTATION, THE POINTS

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OF THE PRESENTATION BY BOTH OF

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THE OPPONENTS KIND OF GET TO

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THE HEART OF THE MATTER. THIS

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WAS INSTIGATED BECAUSE A PERSON

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WENT OUT WHO, WHETHER YOU THINK

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HE HAS PRESS CREDENTIALS OR NOT,

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DISCOVERED SOME INTERESTING

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GOINGS ON, BOTH IN A DIFFERENT

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STATE AND THEN IN OUR STATE AS

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WELL. AND, AND THAT HAS

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ACTUALLY LED TO THE UNCOVERING

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OF A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF

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FRAUD. IF WE ARE GOING TO DO

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THIS BILL, WHO IS GOING TO

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ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES? BECAUSE

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OTHERWISE WE WOULD STILL NOT BE

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ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES IF

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THOSE HAD NOT BEEN UNCOVERED BY

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A PERSON THAT UNDER THIS BILL

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IS GOING TO BE QUASHED IN THEIR

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EFFORTS TO DO WHATEVER THEIR

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JOB IS, WHETHER THEY THEY FEEL

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THAT THEY ARE A SELF APPOINTED

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PERSON. BUT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT

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THE LANGUAGE AS HARASSMENT,

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WHAT CONSTITUTES HARASSMENT? IS

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THAT WHAT WE GET EVERY DAY WHEN

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WE WALK DOWN THE STREET AND

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PEOPLE ARE SHOVING THINGS IN

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OUR FACE, WE DON'T CONSIDER

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THAT HARASSMENT. THAT'S PART OF

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THE JOB. IF YOU ARE TAKING

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BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OR MILLIONS

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OF DOLLARS FROM THE TAXPAYERS

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IN AN EFFORT TO DO SOMETHING

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THAT WE THINK, YOU KNOW,

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WHETHER IT'S CHILD CARE OR OR

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WHATEVER SERVICES IT IS, AND

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IT'S NOT BEING DIRECTED THAT

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WAY. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE

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MEANS FOR US TO BE ABLE TO

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ADDRESS THAT. AND YET WE'VE

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DISCOVERED THAT THOSE MEANS ARE

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FAILING US. SO. THAT'S MY

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CONCERN WITH THIS IS WHERE IT'S

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GENERATED FROM, IT'S GENERATED

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FROM. AND TRYING TO QUASH THE

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ACTIVITIES THAT HAVE LED TO

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SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW WELL

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OUR MONEY IS BEING SPENT. AND

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ABSENT THAT, I DON'T KNOW WHO'S

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GOING TO TAKE THE MANTLE

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BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE

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TIME TO GO OUT AND INVESTIGATE

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ALL THESE THINGS MYSELF. SO

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THESE INVESTIGATIVE REPORTERS,

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WHATEVER YOU WOULD LIKE TO CALL

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THEM, SEEM TO BE TOUCHING A

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NERVE. AND THIS BILL IS AN

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EXAMPLE OF THAT NERVE, AND

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THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.

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THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY

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MUCH FOR BRINGING THIS BILL

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FORWARD. AND I DO HAVE AN EYE

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RECOMMENDATION. SO WE DO NOT

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HAVE A QUORUM. SO WHEN WE

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ESTABLISH A QUORUM, WILL

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ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE BILL.

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BUT I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO

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MAKE A CLOSING STATEMENT. THANK

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YOU CHAIR, I APPRECIATE THAT.

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AND FOR THE RECORD, BECAUSE I

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REALLY, REALLY RESPECT YOU

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GREATLY, SENATOR, I WANT TO

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MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVEN'T

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FALLEN PRIVY TO MISINFORMATION

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AND DISINFORMATION AND ARE NOT

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ACTUALLY INDICATING ANYTHING

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RELATED TO WHAT GENERATED

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INTEREST, BECAUSE THAT WOULD

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ASSUME THAT YOU ARE MAKING A

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YOU'RE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT

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WHAT GENERATED INTEREST IN THIS

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BILL. AND TO BE QUITE HONEST,

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THAT IS EXCUSE ME, WE DON'T

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ALLOW WITNESSES TO RECORD THE

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AUTHORS. IF YOU CANNOT. IF YOU

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CANNOT, SHE'S ATTACKING ME AND

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I DON'T NEED THAT. OKAY. I WAS

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VERY POLITE. LET'S LET'S JUST

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LET'S HAVE SOME DECORUM HERE.

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SO, SIR, IF YOU CAN JUST

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TECHNICALLY ALL THE ALL THE

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WITNESSES DON'T NEED TO SIT

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HERE ANYMORE BECAUSE WE'VE

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HEARD YOUR TESTIMONY SO PEOPLE

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CAN PLEASE TAKE THEIR SEATS AT

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THIS TIME. OKAY. THANK YOU. THE

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WHAT ACTUALLY GENERATED

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INTEREST IN THIS BILL WAS A

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MISCHARACTERIZATION FROM THE

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DAIS. WHAT GENERATED INTEREST

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IN THIS BILL WAS FAR BEFORE

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NICK CHIRLA ACTUALLY EVER

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VIDEOED ANYTHING IN THE STATE

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OF CALIFORNIA. THIS THIS BILL

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WAS GENERATED. THE INTEREST

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THAT WAS GENERATED FROM THIS

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BILL CAME FROM IMMIGRANT

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SERVICE PROVIDERS BEING

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ATTACKED. IT CAME FROM PEOPLE

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SHOWING UP AT THEIR HOUSES AND

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HOMES AND ATTACKING THEM. THAT

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IS WHAT GENERATED THE INTEREST

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FOR THIS BILL MANY, MANY, MANY

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MONTHS BEFORE THAT. SO THE

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CHRONOLOGY THAT WAS OFFERED BY

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THE OPPOSITION IS FACTUALLY

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INCORRECT. YOU CAN ACTUALLY

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CHECK THE RECORD ON THAT. THIS

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BILL IS ABOUT ENSURING THAT

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PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE

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IN A 30 YEAR OLD PROGRAM IN THE

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STATE OF CALIFORNIA, ADDING

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IMMIGRANT SERVICE PROVIDERS TO

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BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND I WANT

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TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS DOES

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NOTHING AT ALL TO SILENCE

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INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM.

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PEOPLE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY

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TO INVESTIGATE ORGANIZATIONS,

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TO LOOK AT PUBLIC RECORDS, TO

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BE ABLE TO LOOK AT NONPROFIT

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FINANCIAL DISCLOSURES, TO BE

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ABLE TO HAVE ALL ACCOUNTABILITY

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MECHANISMS AVAILABLE TO THEM,

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BECAUSE ALL OF US CARE ABOUT

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ENSURING THAT THE PROGRAMS AND

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GRANTS THAT WE OFFER TO

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EVERYBODY ARE ACTUALLY

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INSTITUTED WITH GREAT FIDELITY.

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THIS HAS BEEN A LONG JOURNEY.

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SIX DIFFERENT COMMITTEE

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HEARINGS THAT WE'VE GONE

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THROUGH, MEMBERS OF MY STAFF,

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PROVIDERS WHO HAVE TESTIFIED

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BEFORE HERE BEING ATTACKED,

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MEMBERS OF THIS LEGISLATURE

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BEING ATTACKED. SO FORGIVE ME

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IF I SPEAK WITH PASSION ABOUT

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THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. IT

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IS TIME NOW FOR US TO BE ABLE

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TO FOCUS ON WHAT THE ACTUAL

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ISSUE IS. PLEASE DON'T

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MISCHARACTERIZE THAT THE ACTUAL

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ISSUE THAT WE ARE FOCUSING ON

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IS ENSURING THAT MEMBERS HAVE

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THE ABILITY OF OUR COMMUNITY,

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HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE

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PROTECTED. WITH THAT, I

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RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR AYE

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VOTE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

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ASSEMBLY MEMBER. ONCE AGAIN, WE

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DON'T HAVE A QUORUM AT THIS

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TIME. SO WE'RE ENTERTAIN A

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MOTION ON THE BILL WHEN WE

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ESTABLISH A QUORUM. AND THANK

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YOU. SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF

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AUTHORS HERE. WE DO TAKE

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MEASURES IN FILE ORDER. AND I

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DO SEE ASSEMBLY MEMBER RAMOS

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AND HE IS ITEM NUMBER ONE. I

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KNOW, MR. LACKEY. YOU'VE BEEN

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WAITING VERY PATIENTLY. I SEE A

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SIMILAR PATEL HERE. I THINK SHE

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IS BEFORE YOU, MR. LACKEY. SO I,

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I LEAVE IT TO BOTH OF YOU TO

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WORK OUT AN ARRANGEMENT. IF

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YOU'D LIKE TO LET ANOTHER

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MEMBER GO BEFOREHAND, BUT WE'LL

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GO TO SAMUEL RAMOS AT THIS TIME.

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OKAY. AND WE'LL PROCEED NOW TO

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FILE 1AB31 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER

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RAMOS. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU

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SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR. TODAY I'M

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PRESENTING AB 31, WHICH IS

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ANOTHER PART OF A LONG STANDING

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EFFORT TO ADDRESS THE MISSING

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AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS PERSONS

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CRISIS IN CALIFORNIA. PUBLIC

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LAW 280 WAS ENACTED THAT

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STRIPPED SEVEN STATES OF THEIR

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TRUE POLICING AUTHORITY ON

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TRIBAL LANDS. CALIFORNIA IS ONE

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OF THOSE STATES. AS I HAVE

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HIGHLIGHTED DURING MY TIME IN

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THE LEGISLATURE, OUR STATE IS

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HOME TO THE MOST NATIVE

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AMERICAN POPULATION AND ALASKA

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NATIVES IN THE COUNTRY, YET HAS

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THE FIFTH HIGHEST NUMBER OF

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MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS

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PERSONS CASES. THIS IS A CRISIS

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THAT AFFECTS MANY TRIBAL

01:34:25.826 --> 01:34:27.294
FAMILIES THAT HAVE HAD A LOVED

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ONE GONE MISSING AND HASN'T

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EVEN BEEN INVESTIGATED. JUST

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LAST YEAR, WE WERE ABLE TO

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ESTABLISH THE TRIBAL POLICE

01:34:35.169 --> 01:34:37.271
PILOT PROGRAM, WHICH GRANTS

01:34:37.338 --> 01:34:38.706
TRIBAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS,

01:34:38.773 --> 01:34:40.875
STATE PEACE OFFICER AUTHORITY,

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THROUGH A PROGRAM. HOWEVER,

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THIS PROGRAM IS SET TO EXPIRE

01:34:44.478 --> 01:34:46.647
IN 2029. ALTHOUGH THIS PROGRAM

01:34:46.714 --> 01:34:47.948
IS A BIG STEP TOWARDS

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ADDRESSING THIS CRISIS,

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PARTICIPANTS MUST UNDERGO A

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RIGOROUS PROCESS TO FULFILL THE

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CONDITIONS OF THE PROGRAM. THIS

01:34:55.356 --> 01:34:57.091
MEANS A TRIBE WITH LIMITED

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RESOURCES TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE

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MUST DECIDE BETWEEN EXTENSIVE

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WORKLOAD FOR A PROGRAM THAT IS

01:35:02.963 --> 01:35:05.433
SET TO EXPIRE, OR THEY CAN

01:35:05.499 --> 01:35:07.168
CHOOSE TO DIVERT RESOURCES

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ELSEWHERE. BEING UNABLE TO

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PARTICIPATE IN THIS

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GROUNDBREAKING PROGRAM WITH AN

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EVER INCREASING LEVEL OF

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MISSING AND MURDERED INDIGENOUS

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PERSONS CASES THROUGHOUT THE

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STATE, AND NOT ENOUGH LOCAL OR

01:35:18.813 --> 01:35:21.015
STATE RESOURCES BEING ALLOCATED

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TO PROTECT TRIBAL COMMUNITIES,

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WE LEAVE THEM FEELING

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DISREGARDED. WE MUST SHOW THE

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TRIBES THAT THE STATE IS FULLY

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COMMITTED AND READY TO INVEST

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IN LONG TERM PROJECTS, RATHER

01:35:33.627 --> 01:35:37.131
THAN SHORT TERM PROGRAMS. WITH

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THESE CONSIDERATIONS, AB 31

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WOULD DO TWO THINGS. FIRST, WE

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WOULD MAKE THE TRIBAL POLICE

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PROGRAM PERMANENT, ALLOWING FOR

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THE NECESSARY TIMING TO ENSURE

01:35:48.242 --> 01:35:49.610
OUR TRIBAL PARTNERS AND

01:35:49.677 --> 01:35:51.479
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE GET THE

01:35:51.545 --> 01:35:52.947
PROGRAM RUNNING EFFICIENTLY AND

01:35:53.013 --> 01:35:54.982
CAN DO THE WORK IT HAS SET OUT

01:35:55.049 --> 01:35:58.185
TO ACHIEVE. SECONDLY, WE WOULD

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ESTABLISH THE MISSING AND

01:35:59.420 --> 01:36:01.155
MURDERED INDIGENOUS PERSONS

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TASK FORCE HERE IN THE STATE OF

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CALIFORNIA. THIS TASK FORCE HAS

01:36:05.593 --> 01:36:07.862
LONG BEEN AN IDEA THAT HAS YET

01:36:07.928 --> 01:36:09.430
TO BE FULLY REALIZED, AND TODAY

01:36:09.497 --> 01:36:11.165
WE HAVE A CHANCE TO MAKE IT

01:36:11.232 --> 01:36:13.033
BECOME REALITY. IN THE STATE OF

01:36:13.100 --> 01:36:15.503
CALIFORNIA. THE TASK FORCE WILL

01:36:15.569 --> 01:36:17.371
BE COORDINATED BY OUR STATE

01:36:17.438 --> 01:36:18.772
POLICE, THE CALIFORNIA HIGHWAY

01:36:18.839 --> 01:36:20.608
PATROL, AND IN ACCORDANCE IN

01:36:20.674 --> 01:36:21.075
COORDINATION WITH THE

01:36:21.142 --> 01:36:22.743
DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE TO

01:36:22.810 --> 01:36:25.279
ENHANCE STATEWIDE COORDINATION

01:36:25.346 --> 01:36:26.947
INVESTIGATIONS. IMPLEMENTING

01:36:27.014 --> 01:36:28.115
THESE POLICIES WILL BRING MUCH

01:36:28.182 --> 01:36:31.152
NEEDED SOLUTIONS AND TOOLS TO

01:36:31.218 --> 01:36:33.053
HELP ADDRESS THE MISSING AND

01:36:33.120 --> 01:36:34.255
MURDERED INDIGENOUS PERSONS

01:36:34.321 --> 01:36:36.423
CRISIS IN OUR STATE AND REALLY

01:36:36.490 --> 01:36:38.626
HONOR CALIFORNIA'S FIRST PEOPLE

01:36:38.692 --> 01:36:40.561
WITH ME TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT

01:36:40.628 --> 01:36:42.596
OF THE BILL TODAY IS CHAIRMAN

01:36:42.663 --> 01:36:44.732
JOE JAMES OF THE YUROK TRIBE,

01:36:44.798 --> 01:36:46.467
THE LARGEST TRIBE IN THE STATE

01:36:46.534 --> 01:36:47.935
OF CALIFORNIA. THANK YOU VERY

01:36:48.002 --> 01:36:49.370
MUCH. ASSEMBLY MEMBER. GOOD

01:36:49.436 --> 01:36:54.508
MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME

01:36:54.575 --> 01:36:56.210
IS JOE JAMES, CHAIRMAN OF THE

01:36:56.277 --> 01:36:58.779
YUROK TRIBE. THANK YOU,

01:36:58.846 --> 01:37:00.548
CHAIRMAN AND COMMITTEE FOR

01:37:00.614 --> 01:37:02.016
ALLOWING ME HERE TO TESTIFY ON

01:37:02.082 --> 01:37:04.151
THIS IMPORTANT MATTER. ON

01:37:04.218 --> 01:37:05.953
BEHALF OF THE YUROK TRIBE, I

01:37:06.020 --> 01:37:08.122
I'M HERE TODAY TO EXPRESS OUR

01:37:08.189 --> 01:37:10.291
SUPPORT AND SPONSORSHIP FOR AB

01:37:10.357 --> 01:37:13.160
31, THE TRIBE. THIS BILL HELPS

01:37:13.227 --> 01:37:14.395
HELPS US TO TACKLE THE MURDERED

01:37:14.461 --> 01:37:16.030
AND MISSING INDIGENOUS PEOPLES

01:37:16.096 --> 01:37:23.270
CRISIS HEAD ON. A. AB 31 WOULD

01:37:23.337 --> 01:37:26.106
MAKE THE PILOT PROGRAM AS, AS

01:37:26.173 --> 01:37:27.575
MENTIONED, MORE PERMANENT,

01:37:27.641 --> 01:37:28.976
HIGHLIGHTING TO TRIBES THAT THE

01:37:29.043 --> 01:37:31.545
STATE IS FULLY READY TO INVEST

01:37:31.612 --> 01:37:35.449
LONG TERM STAND AND BY BY A

01:37:35.516 --> 01:37:37.251
PARTNER IN ADDRESSING THIS

01:37:37.318 --> 01:37:38.352
CRISIS. THIS BILL WOULD ALSO

01:37:38.419 --> 01:37:39.353
ESTABLISH THE MURDERED AND

01:37:39.420 --> 01:37:40.988
MISSING INDIGENOUS PERSONS TASK

01:37:41.055 --> 01:37:43.057
FORCE. AS RAMOS MENTIONED.

01:37:43.123 --> 01:37:45.993
AGAIN, IT IS THE RIGHT MESSAGE

01:37:46.060 --> 01:37:49.163
TO SEND FOR THE STATE OF

01:37:49.230 --> 01:37:50.231
CALIFORNIA TO TACKLE THIS

01:37:50.297 --> 01:37:51.398
ONGOING CRISIS THAT'S NEAR AND

01:37:51.465 --> 01:37:52.733
DEAR TO ALL OF US. FIRST

01:37:52.800 --> 01:37:54.401
PEOPLES HERE AT HOME IN THE

01:37:54.468 --> 01:37:57.271
STATE OF CALIFORNIA. ULTIMATELY,

01:37:57.338 --> 01:37:58.505
THIS BILL IS ABOUT EMPOWERING

01:37:58.572 --> 01:38:00.674
TRIBAL GOVERNMENTS AND

01:38:00.741 --> 01:38:02.109
SHOWCASING TO TRIBAL NATIONS

01:38:02.176 --> 01:38:03.911
THE STATE'S FULL COMMITMENT TO

01:38:03.978 --> 01:38:05.646
ADDRESSING THE CRISIS WITH LONG

01:38:05.713 --> 01:38:07.081
TERM SOLUTIONS INSTEAD OF SHORT

01:38:07.147 --> 01:38:10.784
TERM ONES. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT

01:38:10.851 --> 01:38:13.587
AB 31, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR

01:38:13.654 --> 01:38:15.456
FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND

01:38:15.522 --> 01:38:17.625
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST A YES VOTE.

01:38:17.691 --> 01:38:18.959
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DOES

01:38:19.026 --> 01:38:20.094
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

01:38:20.160 --> 01:38:22.529
SUPPORT FOR AB 31? IF YOU CAN,

01:38:22.596 --> 01:38:23.530
PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE

01:38:23.597 --> 01:38:24.531
AND STATE YOUR NAME,

01:38:24.598 --> 01:38:25.532
ORGANIZATION AND POSITION. GOOD

01:38:25.599 --> 01:38:26.967
MORNING. MARCOS AGUILAR,

01:38:27.034 --> 01:38:28.736
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY

01:38:28.802 --> 01:38:29.870
DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, LOS

01:38:29.937 --> 01:38:31.338
ANGELES. I'M AN ADVISOR TO THE

01:38:31.405 --> 01:38:32.439
GABRIELINO SHOSHONE NATION HERE

01:38:32.506 --> 01:38:34.241
TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR AB 31.

01:38:34.308 --> 01:38:37.378
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

01:38:37.444 --> 01:38:39.213
MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS. CHRIS

01:38:39.280 --> 01:38:40.681
LINDSTROM, CALIFORNIA TRIBAL

01:38:40.748 --> 01:38:41.682
BUSINESS ALLIANCE. WE'RE IN

01:38:41.749 --> 01:38:44.218
SUPPORT. AND ALSO WILTON

01:38:44.285 --> 01:38:46.120
RANCHERIA IS IN SUPPORT. THANK

01:38:46.186 --> 01:38:48.589
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU VERY

01:38:48.656 --> 01:38:52.893
MUCH, CHRIS. RAYMOND, C

01:38:52.960 --> 01:38:53.961
HITCHCOCK, TRIBAL COUNCIL

01:38:54.028 --> 01:38:55.062
MEMBER, WILTON RANCHERIA,

01:38:55.129 --> 01:38:56.063
FEDERALLY RECOGNIZED TRIBE

01:38:56.130 --> 01:38:57.531
RIGHT HERE IN SACRAMENTO,

01:38:57.598 --> 01:38:58.899
CALIFORNIA. I AM IN SUPPORT OF

01:38:58.966 --> 01:39:01.535
AB 31 FOR CREATING THE MMIP AND

01:39:01.602 --> 01:39:04.138
THE TRIBAL POLICE FUND. THANK

01:39:04.204 --> 01:39:06.874
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS

01:39:06.940 --> 01:39:08.008
THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO

01:39:08.075 --> 01:39:17.384
EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR AB 31? GOOD

01:39:17.451 --> 01:39:19.887
MORNING, DON BROWN. I AM IN

01:39:19.953 --> 01:39:22.056
SUPPORT WILTON RANCHERIA. THANK

01:39:22.122 --> 01:39:24.925
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:39:24.992 --> 01:39:25.993
UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE ELSE

01:39:26.060 --> 01:39:27.061
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR

01:39:27.127 --> 01:39:28.896
AB 31, WE'LL TAKE ANY

01:39:28.962 --> 01:39:30.731
OPPOSITION WITNESSES. ARE THERE

01:39:30.798 --> 01:39:34.068
ANY OPPOSITION WITNESSES SEEING

01:39:34.134 --> 01:39:35.235
NO ONE COME FORWARD, I'LL BRING

01:39:35.302 --> 01:39:37.037
IT BACK TO THE DAIS FOR ANY

01:39:37.104 --> 01:39:38.205
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE

01:39:38.272 --> 01:39:39.406
COMMITTEE. STRONGLY SUPPORT THE

01:39:39.473 --> 01:39:40.908
BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

01:39:40.974 --> 01:39:41.909
ASSEMBLY MEMBER, FOR BRINGING

01:39:41.975 --> 01:39:43.110
THIS FORWARD, AND I'LL TURN IT

01:39:43.177 --> 01:39:45.012
BACK OVER TO YOU TO MAKE A

01:39:45.079 --> 01:39:46.480
CLOSING STATEMENT. THANK YOU SO

01:39:46.547 --> 01:39:49.416
MUCH FOR THAT, AND THANK YOU

01:39:49.483 --> 01:39:51.652
FOR YOUR ONGOING SUPPORT OF

01:39:51.719 --> 01:39:52.986
THESE ISSUES TO CALIFORNIA'S

01:39:53.053 --> 01:39:54.855
FIRST PEOPLE. I ASK FOR YOUR

01:39:54.922 --> 01:39:55.956
AYE VOTE WHEN THE TIME IS

01:39:56.023 --> 01:39:57.024
APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU VERY

01:39:57.091 --> 01:40:01.628
MUCH. OKAY. WE'LL NOW PROCEED

01:40:01.695 --> 01:40:06.333
TO OUR NEXT BILL AND FILE ORDER,

01:40:06.400 --> 01:40:09.937
AND WE'LL PROCEED TO FILING 25

01:40:10.003 --> 01:40:21.081
AB 1959 BY SENATOR PATEL. THANK

01:40:21.148 --> 01:40:22.649
YOU, MR. CHAIR. GOOD MORNING

01:40:22.716 --> 01:40:25.018
AND GOOD MORNING, MEMBERS.

01:40:25.085 --> 01:40:26.353
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY

01:40:26.420 --> 01:40:29.723
TO PRESENT AB 1959. THIS BILL

01:40:29.790 --> 01:40:30.991
SEEKS TO CLOSE A LOOPHOLE IN

01:40:31.058 --> 01:40:32.793
THE LAW RELATED TO A SCHOOL

01:40:32.860 --> 01:40:34.762
SHOOTING IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.

01:40:34.828 --> 01:40:36.563
YOU WILL HEAR FROM WITNESS

01:40:36.630 --> 01:40:39.066
TESTIMONY OF THE REAL PAIN AND

01:40:39.133 --> 01:40:40.534
IMPACT THAT WAS CAUSED BY THIS

01:40:40.601 --> 01:40:43.003
SCHOOL SHOOTING IN 2001 AT

01:40:43.070 --> 01:40:44.805
SANTANA HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH

01:40:44.872 --> 01:40:46.640
ENDED THE LIVES OF TWO FELLOW

01:40:46.707 --> 01:40:48.409
STUDENTS AND CAUSED INJURY TO

01:40:48.475 --> 01:40:50.944
11 OTHER STUDENTS, ONE TEACHER

01:40:51.011 --> 01:40:53.814
AND ONE CAMPUS SECURITY OFFICER.

01:40:53.881 --> 01:40:55.249
THIS INDIVIDUAL WAS SENTENCED

01:40:55.315 --> 01:40:58.852
TO PRISON AFTER HIS GUILTY PLEA.

01:40:58.919 --> 01:41:00.020
HOWEVER, BECAUSE OF A LOOPHOLE

01:41:00.087 --> 01:41:01.955
IN THE LAW, HE WAS ABLE TO FILE

01:41:02.022 --> 01:41:03.190
FOR RESENTENCING IN A

01:41:03.257 --> 01:41:04.258
JURISDICTION THAT DIDN'T EVEN

01:41:04.324 --> 01:41:06.059
TRY HIM. EVEN AFTER BEING

01:41:06.126 --> 01:41:08.595
DENIED PAROLE MONTHS BEFORE HIS

01:41:08.662 --> 01:41:11.165
RESENTENCING MOTION. AB 1959

01:41:11.231 --> 01:41:13.634
SIMPLY SEEKS TO ENSURE THAT MY

01:41:13.700 --> 01:41:15.102
COMMUNITY CONTINUES TO FEEL

01:41:15.169 --> 01:41:16.904
SAFE AND THAT CONVICTED

01:41:16.970 --> 01:41:17.938
INDIVIDUALS ARE HELD

01:41:18.005 --> 01:41:19.039
ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS

01:41:19.106 --> 01:41:21.175
UNTIL THEY ARE SUCCESSFULLY

01:41:21.241 --> 01:41:23.010
REHABILITATED. I URGE YOUR AYE

01:41:23.076 --> 01:41:24.411
VOTE TODAY AT THE APPROPRIATE

01:41:24.478 --> 01:41:26.313
TIME. WITH ME TO TESTIFY TODAY

01:41:26.380 --> 01:41:27.748
ARE DEPUTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY

01:41:27.815 --> 01:41:29.850
NICOLE ROTH AND KRISTIN MARIE

01:41:29.917 --> 01:41:32.352
DARE, A SURVIVOR OF THE SANTANA

01:41:32.419 --> 01:41:37.391
SHOOTING. HI. GOOD MORNING.

01:41:37.458 --> 01:41:38.892
THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE

01:41:38.959 --> 01:41:40.828
MEMBERS HERE. YOU MAKE SURE THE

01:41:40.894 --> 01:41:43.297
MIC IS ON. IS THAT. YES. SHOULD

01:41:43.363 --> 01:41:46.733
BE WORKING. OKAY. THANK YOU,

01:41:46.800 --> 01:41:48.535
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR

01:41:48.602 --> 01:41:50.704
THIS OPPORTUNITY. AND THANK YOU

01:41:50.771 --> 01:41:52.139
ALSO, ASSEMBLY MEMBER PATEL,

01:41:52.206 --> 01:41:54.608
FOR YOUR THOUGHTFUL WORK ON

01:41:54.675 --> 01:41:58.912
THIS BILL. MY NAME IS NICOLE

01:41:58.979 --> 01:42:00.047
ROTH. I'M A DEPUTY DISTRICT

01:42:00.113 --> 01:42:01.849
ATTORNEY WITH THE SAN DIEGO

01:42:01.915 --> 01:42:03.650
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

01:42:03.717 --> 01:42:05.486
OFFICE. AND ON BEHALF OF MY

01:42:05.552 --> 01:42:06.887
OFFICE, WE ARE IN STRONG

01:42:06.954 --> 01:42:10.891
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. AB 1959

01:42:10.958 --> 01:42:13.026
IS A NECESSARY CORRECTION TO

01:42:13.093 --> 01:42:14.828
PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY AND

01:42:14.895 --> 01:42:16.230
RESTORE THE TRUST THAT VICTIMS

01:42:16.296 --> 01:42:17.698
AND COMMUNITIES HAVE IN OUR

01:42:17.764 --> 01:42:20.300
JUSTICE SYSTEM. THIS BILL DOES

01:42:20.367 --> 01:42:23.470
NOT ELIMINATE 1170 DE RE

01:42:23.537 --> 01:42:24.872
SENTENCING. IT RESTORES

01:42:24.938 --> 01:42:27.441
JUDICIAL DISCRETION WITHIN THAT

01:42:27.508 --> 01:42:31.044
PROCESS, AND THAT IS A CRUCIAL

01:42:31.111 --> 01:42:33.180
COMPONENT OF RESENTENCING. IT

01:42:33.247 --> 01:42:35.349
WAS A COMPONENT THAT WAS

01:42:35.415 --> 01:42:38.919
INITIALLY CONTEMPLATED BY THIS

01:42:38.986 --> 01:42:40.387
LEGISLATURE WHEN THEY CREATED

01:42:40.454 --> 01:42:43.624
PENAL CODE SECTION 1170 D. THE

01:42:43.690 --> 01:42:45.792
INTENT WAS CLEAR THAT JUDGES

01:42:45.859 --> 01:42:48.662
WOULD DETERMINE ELIGIBILITY AND

01:42:48.729 --> 01:42:51.532
THEN HOLD A FULL AND THOUGHTFUL

01:42:51.598 --> 01:42:53.367
RESENTENCING HEARING, AT WHICH

01:42:53.433 --> 01:42:55.502
THEY WOULD CAREFULLY WEIGH

01:42:55.569 --> 01:42:58.438
YOUTH REHABILITATION AND

01:42:58.505 --> 01:43:00.574
REMORSE BEFORE REDUCING ANY

01:43:00.641 --> 01:43:02.643
SENTENCE. IT WAS MEANT TO BE A

01:43:02.709 --> 01:43:05.979
THOUGHTFUL, INDIVIDUALIZED AND

01:43:06.046 --> 01:43:09.216
SAFE APPROACH TO RESENTENCING.

01:43:09.283 --> 01:43:12.085
BUT TODAY THAT TWO STEP PROCESS

01:43:12.152 --> 01:43:16.423
HAS COLLAPSED AND IN EFFECT,

01:43:16.490 --> 01:43:17.824
ONCE A PETITIONER IS FOUND

01:43:17.891 --> 01:43:19.626
ELIGIBLE, THAT CASE TRANSFERS

01:43:19.693 --> 01:43:23.196
BACK TO JUVENILE COURT, WHERE

01:43:23.263 --> 01:43:25.432
THE DETERMINATION IS MADE BASED

01:43:25.499 --> 01:43:26.800
ON THAT PERSON'S AGE, AT THE

01:43:26.867 --> 01:43:29.002
TIME OF THEIR COMMISSION OF THE

01:43:29.069 --> 01:43:32.239
OFFENSE AND NOT ON

01:43:32.306 --> 01:43:34.041
REHABILITATION, PUBLIC SAFETY

01:43:34.107 --> 01:43:37.277
OR RISK. IF THE OFFENDER WAS

01:43:37.344 --> 01:43:39.413
UNDER 16 AT THE TIME OF THE

01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:41.949
OFFENSE RELEASES AUTOMATIC. A

01:43:42.015 --> 01:43:44.418
JUDGE HAS NO OPPORTUNITY AND NO

01:43:44.484 --> 01:43:49.890
DISCRETION TO CONSIDER. ANY

01:43:49.957 --> 01:43:53.427
FACTORS THAT WERE INITIALLY

01:43:53.493 --> 01:43:55.262
INTENDED TO BE CONSIDERED AT A

01:43:55.329 --> 01:43:58.165
SENTENCING HEARING, AND THIS IS

01:43:58.231 --> 01:44:00.100
EVEN IN THE MOST EXTREME CASES.

01:44:00.167 --> 01:44:02.135
THIS IS NOT JUST A HYPOTHETICAL,

01:44:02.202 --> 01:44:03.870
BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IN OUR

01:44:03.937 --> 01:44:06.807
COUNTY WE SEE IN REALITY, AND I

01:44:06.873 --> 01:44:08.141
APOLOGIZE IF YOU CAN PLEASE

01:44:08.208 --> 01:44:09.343
WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS. YES,

01:44:09.409 --> 01:44:11.945
ABSOLUTELY. AND THE SANTANA

01:44:12.012 --> 01:44:14.314
HIGH SCHOOL SHOOTING CASE,

01:44:14.381 --> 01:44:16.883
WHILE HE WAS JUST FOUND TO BE

01:44:16.950 --> 01:44:20.454
UNSAFE FOR RELEASE, HE FACES A

01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:21.388
MANDATORY RELEASE BECAUSE HE

01:44:21.455 --> 01:44:22.923
WAS 15 AT THE TIME OF THE

01:44:22.990 --> 01:44:25.959
SHOOTING. AB 1959 RESTORES WHAT

01:44:26.026 --> 01:44:28.428
THE LEGISLATURE ALWAYS INTENDED.

01:44:28.495 --> 01:44:30.163
THAT IS, JUDICIAL DISCRETION, A

01:44:30.230 --> 01:44:32.366
BALANCED PROCESS AND TRUE

01:44:32.432 --> 01:44:33.400
CONSIDERATION OF BOTH

01:44:33.467 --> 01:44:35.602
YOUTHFULNESS AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

01:44:35.669 --> 01:44:37.371
I URGE YOUR AYE VOTE WHEN THE

01:44:37.437 --> 01:44:39.873
TIME IS RIGHT, TO PROTECT OUR

01:44:39.940 --> 01:44:41.008
COMMUNITIES AND REAFFIRM THE

01:44:41.074 --> 01:44:42.476
INTEGRITY AND THE JUSTICE

01:44:42.542 --> 01:44:43.577
SYSTEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

01:44:43.644 --> 01:44:46.013
VERY MUCH. HI. GOOD MORNING.

01:44:46.079 --> 01:44:48.181
GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND MEMBERS.

01:44:48.248 --> 01:44:49.983
I APPRECIATE BEING ABLE TO

01:44:50.050 --> 01:44:51.785
ADDRESS YOU DURING GUN VIOLENCE

01:44:51.852 --> 01:44:53.253
AWARENESS MONTH. MY NAME IS

01:44:53.320 --> 01:44:54.955
KRISTEN DARE. MY HUSBAND AND I

01:44:55.022 --> 01:44:56.156
ARE SURVIVORS OF THE SHOOTING

01:44:56.223 --> 01:44:57.557
AT SANTA ANA HIGH SCHOOL ON

01:44:57.624 --> 01:44:59.693
MARCH 5TH, 2001, AND WE STILL

01:44:59.760 --> 01:45:01.528
PROUDLY CALL SANTA OUR HOME.

01:45:01.595 --> 01:45:03.230
ALTHOUGH THE EVENTS OF THAT DAY

01:45:03.296 --> 01:45:04.698
CONTINUE TO SHAPE OUR FAMILY

01:45:04.765 --> 01:45:06.166
DECISIONS. WHEN OUR CHILDREN

01:45:06.233 --> 01:45:07.634
AGED INTO THE NINTH GRADE, WE

01:45:07.701 --> 01:45:09.436
MADE THE DIFFICULT DECISION TO

01:45:09.503 --> 01:45:11.204
SEND THEM BOTH TO SANTA ANA'S

01:45:11.271 --> 01:45:12.673
NEIGHBORING RIVAL HIGH SCHOOL.

01:45:12.739 --> 01:45:14.441
UNWILLING TO SPEND SEVERAL MORE

01:45:14.508 --> 01:45:15.676
YEARS WALKING THE CAMPUS WHERE

01:45:15.742 --> 01:45:18.078
OUR LIVES WERE FOREVER CHANGED.

01:45:18.145 --> 01:45:19.880
NOW I FEAR IN ALL NEW WAYS,

01:45:19.946 --> 01:45:21.682
THINKING WHAT IT COULD MEAN TO

01:45:21.748 --> 01:45:23.483
POTENTIALLY LOSE MY LIFE'S MOST

01:45:23.550 --> 01:45:25.652
IMPORTANT WORK OUR CHILDREN.

01:45:25.719 --> 01:45:27.454
THE EFFECTS OF THE SANTA ANA

01:45:27.521 --> 01:45:29.956
SHOOTING ARE STILL CLAIMING

01:45:30.023 --> 01:45:31.758
CASUALTIES. A CLASSMATE WHO WAS

01:45:31.825 --> 01:45:33.193
MURDERED, RANDY GORDON, LOST

01:45:33.260 --> 01:45:34.661
MORE THAN JUST HIS OWN FUTURE,

01:45:34.728 --> 01:45:36.229
AS HIS MOTHER WAS FOUND LIVING

01:45:36.296 --> 01:45:37.330
IN A HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT JUST A

01:45:37.397 --> 01:45:39.199
FEW MILES FROM SANTA ANA, HER

01:45:39.266 --> 01:45:40.267
LIFE DEVASTATED BY THE LOSS OF

01:45:40.333 --> 01:45:42.602
HER SON STILL IN AND OUT OF

01:45:42.669 --> 01:45:44.304
TEMPORARY HOUSING TO THIS DAY.

01:45:44.371 --> 01:45:46.506
ANOTHER CLASSMATE, TOMMY MILSAP,

01:45:46.573 --> 01:45:47.974
TOOK HIS OWN LIFE ON THE

01:45:48.041 --> 01:45:48.875
ANNIVERSARY OF THE SHOOTING

01:45:48.942 --> 01:45:51.178
BACK IN 2020, SPECIFICALLY

01:45:51.244 --> 01:45:52.646
CITING THE SHOOTING IN HIS

01:45:52.713 --> 01:45:54.815
SUICIDE LETTER. I'M HERE TODAY

01:45:54.881 --> 01:45:56.616
TO ASK THAT JUSTICE REMAIN

01:45:56.683 --> 01:45:58.518
BALANCED. RANDY AND BRIAN WERE

01:45:58.585 --> 01:46:00.020
NEVER AFFORDED THE OPPORTUNITY

01:46:00.087 --> 01:46:01.088
TO LIVE THE LIVES THAT WERE

01:46:01.154 --> 01:46:02.889
TAKEN FROM THEM, AND US AS

01:46:02.956 --> 01:46:04.024
VICTIMS, NEVER HAVE THE CHANCE

01:46:04.091 --> 01:46:05.926
TO BE FREE FROM THE MENTAL,

01:46:05.992 --> 01:46:07.160
EMOTIONAL, AND PHYSICAL WOUNDS

01:46:07.227 --> 01:46:09.196
WE CARRY. PEOPLE WHO HAVE

01:46:09.262 --> 01:46:10.263
COMMITTED THE MOST VIOLENT

01:46:10.330 --> 01:46:11.698
CRIMES AS TEENAGERS SHOULD NOT

01:46:11.765 --> 01:46:13.533
SO EASILY BE RELIEVED OF THE

01:46:13.600 --> 01:46:14.901
CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR ACTIONS,

01:46:14.968 --> 01:46:16.403
AND ARE STILL DESERVING OF THE

01:46:16.470 --> 01:46:18.205
CARRYING OUT OF THEIR ORIGINAL

01:46:18.271 --> 01:46:19.673
SENTENCING. HOWEVER, WHEN THEY

01:46:19.740 --> 01:46:21.374
BRING A PETITION FOR

01:46:21.441 --> 01:46:22.375
RESENTENCING, THEIR CASES ARE

01:46:22.442 --> 01:46:24.277
HELD IN A JUVENILE COURT. EVEN

01:46:24.344 --> 01:46:25.746
THOUGH THESE COURTS HAVE LONG

01:46:25.812 --> 01:46:28.248
LOST JURISDICTION OVER THESE

01:46:28.315 --> 01:46:30.150
FOLKS, THIS CAN OFTEN RESULT IN

01:46:30.217 --> 01:46:32.185
THEIR EARLY RELEASE THROUGH

01:46:32.252 --> 01:46:33.453
RESENTENCING, EVEN AFTER PAROLE

01:46:33.520 --> 01:46:35.522
BOARD HAS DEEMED THEM

01:46:35.589 --> 01:46:39.459
UNSUITABLE. AB 15AB1959 CLOSES

01:46:39.526 --> 01:46:40.861
THIS LOOPHOLE, RESTORES

01:46:40.927 --> 01:46:42.362
DISCRETION TO THE COURT AND

01:46:42.429 --> 01:46:43.764
ENSURES THESE OFFENDERS, WHO

01:46:43.830 --> 01:46:45.499
HAVE AGED OUT OF JUVENILE

01:46:45.565 --> 01:46:47.000
SYSTEMS, CAN THEN BE

01:46:47.067 --> 01:46:48.468
RESENTENCED APPROPRIATELY IN

01:46:48.535 --> 01:46:50.637
ADULT COURT. I RESPECTFULLY ASK

01:46:50.704 --> 01:46:51.671
FOR YOUR VOTE AT THE

01:46:51.738 --> 01:46:53.874
APPROPRIATE TIME ON AB 1959,

01:46:53.940 --> 01:46:55.142
AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

01:46:55.208 --> 01:46:56.943
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, AND

01:46:57.010 --> 01:46:58.178
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.

01:46:58.245 --> 01:46:59.980
I'LL ASK, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE

01:47:00.046 --> 01:47:01.081
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR

01:47:01.148 --> 01:47:05.418
AB 1959? CHAIR MEMBERS? MAX

01:47:05.485 --> 01:47:06.720
PERRY, ON BEHALF OF THE

01:47:06.787 --> 01:47:07.521
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS

01:47:07.587 --> 01:47:08.955
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. THANK

01:47:09.022 --> 01:47:11.424
YOU. GOOD MORNING, SERENA SCOTT.

01:47:11.491 --> 01:47:12.592
ON BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE OF

01:47:12.659 --> 01:47:13.593
CALIFORNIA CITIES IN SUPPORT.

01:47:13.660 --> 01:47:16.897
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. IVY

01:47:16.963 --> 01:47:17.964
FITZPATRICK. ON BEHALF OF THE

01:47:18.031 --> 01:47:19.032
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF THE

01:47:19.099 --> 01:47:20.100
RIVERSIDE COUNTY DISTRICT

01:47:20.167 --> 01:47:21.168
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SUPPORT.

01:47:21.234 --> 01:47:22.969
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE

01:47:23.036 --> 01:47:24.538
ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT

01:47:24.604 --> 01:47:27.941
FOR AB 1959, SEEING NO ONE COME

01:47:28.008 --> 01:47:29.042
FORWARD, WILL NOT TAKE UP TO

01:47:29.109 --> 01:47:30.143
TWO PRINCIPAL OPPOSITION

01:47:30.210 --> 01:47:48.395
WITNESSES TO AB 1959.

01:47:49.696 --> 01:47:49.996
AND YOU

01:47:50.063 --> 01:47:51.798
EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES, MR.

01:47:51.865 --> 01:47:52.866
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE

01:47:52.933 --> 01:47:53.934
COMMITTEE. THANK YOU. MY NAME

01:47:54.000 --> 01:47:55.802
IS MARISSA HARRIS, AND I APPEAR

01:47:55.869 --> 01:47:57.003
BEFORE YOU TODAY AS A PROFESSOR

01:47:57.070 --> 01:47:58.138
AND CLINIC DIRECTOR AT LOYOLA

01:47:58.205 --> 01:47:59.139
LAW SCHOOL'S CENTER FOR

01:47:59.206 --> 01:48:00.907
JUVENILE LAW AND POLICY. I HAVE

01:48:00.974 --> 01:48:02.242
FIRSTHAND EXPERIENCE WITH YOUTH

01:48:02.309 --> 01:48:04.477
OFFENDER RESENTENCING, AND I'M

01:48:04.544 --> 01:48:06.179
ALSO THE PARENT OF A YOUNG

01:48:06.246 --> 01:48:07.380
CHILD. AND LIKE EVERYONE HERE,

01:48:07.447 --> 01:48:09.049
I'M HORRIFIED BY THE THOUGHT OF

01:48:09.115 --> 01:48:10.217
A SCHOOL SHOOTING. AS A PARENT,

01:48:10.283 --> 01:48:11.985
I UNDERSTAND THE INSTINCT TO

01:48:12.052 --> 01:48:13.186
ACT. BUT AS A LAWYER AND

01:48:13.253 --> 01:48:14.221
PROFESSOR, I BELIEVE GOOD

01:48:14.287 --> 01:48:15.989
POLICY REQUIRES US TO ASK HARD

01:48:16.056 --> 01:48:16.990
QUESTIONS AND DEMAND EVIDENCE

01:48:17.057 --> 01:48:18.491
BEFORE CHANGING THE LAW. THAT'S

01:48:18.558 --> 01:48:20.227
WHAT I ASK YOU TO DO TODAY. WHO

01:48:20.293 --> 01:48:21.728
WILL THIS BILL AFFECT? THE

01:48:21.795 --> 01:48:24.231
ANSWER IS WE DON'T KNOW. AB

01:48:24.297 --> 01:48:25.665
1959 WAS INTRODUCED IN RESPONSE

01:48:25.732 --> 01:48:26.933
TO ONE HORRIFIC CRIME COMMITTED

01:48:27.000 --> 01:48:28.501
BY A 15 YEAR OLD NEARLY 25

01:48:28.568 --> 01:48:30.303
YEARS AGO, AND NOTHING I SAY

01:48:30.370 --> 01:48:31.338
DIMINISHES THE SUFFERING OF THE

01:48:31.404 --> 01:48:32.806
VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES. BUT

01:48:32.873 --> 01:48:34.307
THIS BILL MIGHT NOT EVEN AFFECT

01:48:34.374 --> 01:48:35.742
THE VERY CASE THAT INSPIRED IT.

01:48:35.809 --> 01:48:37.177
WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY

01:48:37.244 --> 01:48:38.178
INDIVIDUALS ARE ELIGIBLE TO

01:48:38.245 --> 01:48:39.646
RETURN TO JUVENILE COURT, WHAT

01:48:39.713 --> 01:48:40.547
OFFENSES THEY COMMITTED, OR HOW

01:48:40.614 --> 01:48:41.815
MANY WOULD ULTIMATELY BE

01:48:41.882 --> 01:48:42.883
TRANSFERRED BACK TO JUVENILE

01:48:42.949 --> 01:48:44.517
COURT. WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THAT

01:48:44.584 --> 01:48:45.685
MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE DID NOT

01:48:45.752 --> 01:48:46.753
COMMIT SCHOOL SHOOTINGS OR

01:48:46.820 --> 01:48:48.421
MULTIPLE MURDERS, AND SOME ARE

01:48:48.488 --> 01:48:49.322
SERVING SENTENCES FOR

01:48:49.389 --> 01:48:50.891
NON-HOMICIDE OFFENSES, YET THEY

01:48:50.957 --> 01:48:52.626
TOO WOULD BE SUBJECT TO

01:48:52.692 --> 01:48:53.727
TRANSFER. THAT'S WHY WE DON'T

01:48:53.793 --> 01:48:55.862
MAKE STATE POLICY BASED ON ONE

01:48:55.929 --> 01:48:57.297
SINGLE CASE. SECOND, HOW MUCH

01:48:57.364 --> 01:48:58.999
WILL THIS BILL COST TAXPAYERS?

01:48:59.065 --> 01:49:00.200
AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW. YOU'RE

01:49:00.267 --> 01:49:01.268
BEING ASKED TO MAKE A LIFE

01:49:01.334 --> 01:49:03.069
ALTERING DECISION AFFECTING AN

01:49:03.136 --> 01:49:04.504
UNKNOWN POPULATION. AN UNKNOWN

01:49:04.571 --> 01:49:05.772
FISCAL COST TRANSFER HEARINGS

01:49:05.839 --> 01:49:07.040
ARE THE MOST RESOURCE INTENSIVE

01:49:07.107 --> 01:49:08.241
PROCEEDINGS IN JUVENILE COURT,

01:49:08.308 --> 01:49:09.542
AND ARE OFTEN FOLLOWED BY

01:49:09.609 --> 01:49:10.710
LENGTHY COURT PROCEEDINGS. YET

01:49:10.777 --> 01:49:12.112
WE HAVE NO MEANINGFUL ESTIMATE

01:49:12.178 --> 01:49:13.647
ON HOW MUCH IT WILL COST.

01:49:13.713 --> 01:49:15.015
FINALLY, WHAT EVIDENCE

01:49:15.081 --> 01:49:17.250
JUSTIFIES UNDOING SB 1391? NONE

01:49:17.317 --> 01:49:18.685
HAS BEEN PRESENTED. SIX YEARS

01:49:18.752 --> 01:49:20.053
AGO, THIS LEGISLATURE

01:49:20.120 --> 01:49:20.820
PROHIBITED THE TRANSFER OF 14

01:49:20.887 --> 01:49:22.389
AND 15 YEAR OLDS BECAUSE

01:49:22.455 --> 01:49:23.423
DECADES OF BRAIN SCIENCE AND

01:49:23.490 --> 01:49:24.691
THE SUPREME COURT HAS

01:49:24.758 --> 01:49:25.725
RECOGNIZED THAT CHILDREN THAT

01:49:25.792 --> 01:49:26.993
AGE ARE FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT

01:49:27.060 --> 01:49:28.561
FROM ADULTS AND DON'T BELONG IN

01:49:28.628 --> 01:49:30.430
ADULT PRISONS. LEGISLATURE ALSO

01:49:30.497 --> 01:49:31.564
RECOGNIZED STARK RACIAL

01:49:31.631 --> 01:49:32.933
DISPARITIES IN THE TRANSFER

01:49:32.999 --> 01:49:34.034
PROCESS, AND DATA SHOWS THAT

01:49:34.100 --> 01:49:35.835
BLACK YOUTH ARE 30 TIMES MORE

01:49:35.902 --> 01:49:37.304
LIKELY TO BE TRANSFERRED THAN

01:49:37.370 --> 01:49:39.406
WHITE YOUTH. AB 1959 OFFERS NO

01:49:39.472 --> 01:49:40.507
REASON TO BELIEVE THOSE

01:49:40.573 --> 01:49:41.708
DISPARITIES WON'T CONTINUE. SO

01:49:41.775 --> 01:49:43.076
WHAT HAS CHANGED? NOT THE

01:49:43.143 --> 01:49:44.878
SCIENCE, NOT THE EVIDENCE, NOT

01:49:44.945 --> 01:49:46.646
PUBLIC SAFETY. NO EVIDENCE HAS

01:49:46.713 --> 01:49:47.981
SHOWN THAT KEEPING 14 AND 15

01:49:48.048 --> 01:49:49.149
YEAR OLDS IN THE JUVENILE

01:49:49.215 --> 01:49:50.383
SYSTEM HAS HARMED PUBLIC SAFETY.

01:49:50.450 --> 01:49:52.052
SO BEFORE YOU VOTE TO EXPAND

01:49:52.118 --> 01:49:53.520
ONE OF THE HARSHEST MECHANISMS

01:49:53.586 --> 01:49:55.021
IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM, I URGE

01:49:55.088 --> 01:49:57.457
YOU TO DEMAND EVIDENCE. I

01:49:57.524 --> 01:49:58.858
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR NO

01:49:58.925 --> 01:50:01.695
VOTE ON AB 1959. MY NAME IS

01:50:01.761 --> 01:50:03.964
STEVEN CHRISTOPHER JOHNSON. MR.

01:50:04.030 --> 01:50:05.031
CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE

01:50:05.098 --> 01:50:06.433
COMMITTEE, THANK YOU FOR THE

01:50:06.499 --> 01:50:07.968
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. AT 14

01:50:08.034 --> 01:50:09.302
YEARS OLD, I COMMITTED A

01:50:09.369 --> 01:50:11.805
HORRIBLE CRIME. I DESERVE THE

01:50:11.871 --> 01:50:12.806
CONSEQUENCES. THE TRANSITION

01:50:12.872 --> 01:50:14.374
FROM JUVENILE HALLS TO

01:50:14.441 --> 01:50:15.809
AMERICA'S WORST JAIL IN LOS

01:50:15.875 --> 01:50:17.610
ANGELES COUNTY AND TO THE

01:50:17.677 --> 01:50:19.012
MAXIMUM FACILITY, MAXIMUM

01:50:19.079 --> 01:50:20.280
SECURITY FACILITY IN PRISONS

01:50:20.347 --> 01:50:22.949
THAT I STAYED AT UNTIL I WAS 16,

01:50:23.016 --> 01:50:25.518
AS FROM 16 UNTIL I WAS RELEASED.

01:50:25.585 --> 01:50:28.054
EXCUSE ME. I DESERVED

01:50:28.121 --> 01:50:29.422
EVERYTHING THAT CAME, IF NOT

01:50:29.489 --> 01:50:31.291
MORE, DURING MY SENTENCE. TWO

01:50:31.358 --> 01:50:32.392
THINGS, HOWEVER, CHANGED THE

01:50:32.459 --> 01:50:34.494
LAW AND MYSELF. THE LAW CHANGED

01:50:34.561 --> 01:50:36.329
FROM PROPOSITION 21, WHICH

01:50:36.396 --> 01:50:37.831
OPENED THE DOORS TO WAREHOUSED

01:50:37.897 --> 01:50:40.633
JUVENILES TO PROP 57 AND SB

01:50:40.700 --> 01:50:42.435
1391, WHERE CALIFORNIA

01:50:42.502 --> 01:50:44.237
RECOGNIZED THAT SCIENCE HAS

01:50:44.304 --> 01:50:46.406
SHOWN THAT 14 AND 15 YEAR OLDS

01:50:46.473 --> 01:50:48.508
ARE NOT READY FOR ADULT SYSTEMS,

01:50:48.575 --> 01:50:50.777
AND THEY ARE CAPABLE OF

01:50:50.844 --> 01:50:52.178
SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. AND I CAN

01:50:52.245 --> 01:50:56.449
PROVE THAT WITH NO SAU

01:50:56.516 --> 01:50:57.851
EDUCATION, I OBTAINED MY A.A.

01:50:57.917 --> 01:50:59.185
DEGREE, DEVELOPED EMOTIONAL

01:50:59.252 --> 01:51:01.388
INTELLIGENCE, OTHERS IN PRISON,

01:51:01.454 --> 01:51:03.590
AND ULTIMATELY I ANALYZED MY

01:51:03.656 --> 01:51:05.658
BODY OF WORK, GOOD AND BAD, AND

01:51:05.725 --> 01:51:08.194
I INTERNALIZED IT NOT TO

01:51:08.261 --> 01:51:10.063
UNDERSTAND, BUT TO KNOW THAT I

01:51:10.130 --> 01:51:11.598
WAS CHANGING FOR THE PEOPLE

01:51:11.664 --> 01:51:13.967
THAT I HAD HURT. MY ACTIONS

01:51:14.034 --> 01:51:15.802
WERE NOTICED. MR. VARGAS AND

01:51:15.869 --> 01:51:17.570
EDUCATOR WHO WORKED INSIDE OF

01:51:17.637 --> 01:51:19.039
CDCR. HE WROTE AN OBSERVATION

01:51:19.105 --> 01:51:20.440
ABOUT ME. HE DESCRIBED ME AS

01:51:20.507 --> 01:51:22.375
PATIENT AND KIND TERMS THAT

01:51:22.442 --> 01:51:23.777
WERE NEVER DESCRIBED ABOUT ME.

01:51:23.843 --> 01:51:26.579
AT 14. THOSE TWO DOCUMENTS WERE

01:51:26.646 --> 01:51:28.815
THE REASON SB 1391 ALLOWED ME

01:51:28.882 --> 01:51:30.583
TO STAND HERE IN FRONT OF YOU

01:51:30.650 --> 01:51:32.452
TODAY, INSTEAD OF SITTING IN A

01:51:32.519 --> 01:51:33.920
CELL. TODAY, I'M BEING TRAINED

01:51:33.987 --> 01:51:35.922
AT COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY AND

01:51:35.989 --> 01:51:37.690
TECHNOLOGY. I HAVE A HOME AND A

01:51:37.757 --> 01:51:39.526
FAMILY. I LIVE A LIFE I NEVER

01:51:39.592 --> 01:51:41.261
THOUGHT I COULD, BUT IT'S THAT

01:51:41.327 --> 01:51:43.797
FEAR THAT MR. SUN. STEVEN

01:51:43.863 --> 01:51:46.299
JOHNSON AT 37 WOULD PROTECT HIM.

01:51:46.366 --> 01:51:52.338
AND FACTS, BUT SIX YEARS AGO,

01:51:52.405 --> 01:51:53.807
Y'ALL CREATED A BILL THAT

01:51:53.873 --> 01:51:55.942
ALLOWED ME TO BE HERE TODAY.

01:51:56.009 --> 01:51:57.377
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO SAY

01:51:57.444 --> 01:52:00.213
IF I SHOULD BE HERE, BUT MISS

01:52:00.280 --> 01:52:01.681
JUDGE AMY CARTER TOOK A GAMBLE

01:52:01.748 --> 01:52:03.216
ON ME BECAUSE Y'ALL GOT IT

01:52:03.283 --> 01:52:05.652
RIGHT. AND SHE'S PROUD OF THAT.

01:52:05.718 --> 01:52:08.555
I ASKED Y'ALL TO PLEASE VOTE

01:52:08.621 --> 01:52:11.424
BECAUSE YOU COULD BE STOPPING

01:52:11.491 --> 01:52:12.525
ANOTHER CHILD LIKE ME, WHO

01:52:12.592 --> 01:52:13.960
DIDN'T KNOW WHO WAS GOING

01:52:14.027 --> 01:52:15.428
THROUGH SOMETHING EMOTIONAL AND

01:52:15.495 --> 01:52:16.896
JUST HAD TO FIGURE IT OUT.

01:52:16.963 --> 01:52:18.431
THANK YOU. I APOLOGIZE IF I

01:52:18.498 --> 01:52:20.767
WENT TOO LONG. THANK YOU VERY

01:52:20.834 --> 01:52:22.735
MUCH. OKAY. IS THERE ANYONE

01:52:22.802 --> 01:52:24.771
ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

01:52:24.838 --> 01:52:30.877
OPPOSITION TO AB 1959? JIM

01:52:30.944 --> 01:52:31.978
LINDBERG ON BEHALF OF THE

01:52:32.045 --> 01:52:33.379
FRIENDS COMMITTEE ON

01:52:33.446 --> 01:52:34.848
LEGISLATION OF CALIFORNIA, WE

01:52:34.914 --> 01:52:35.949
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

01:52:36.015 --> 01:52:39.185
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MELANIE

01:52:39.252 --> 01:52:40.954
KIM, SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC

01:52:41.020 --> 01:52:45.125
DEFENDER'S OFFICE IN OPPOSITION.

01:52:45.191 --> 01:52:46.793
RODRIGUEZ WITH ACLU, CAL ACTION

01:52:46.860 --> 01:52:48.895
AND STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK

01:52:48.962 --> 01:52:50.964
YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO

01:52:51.030 --> 01:52:53.766
EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO AB 1959,

01:52:53.833 --> 01:52:55.168
HIÆN NGUYEN WITH LEGAL SERVICES.

01:52:55.235 --> 01:52:56.102
WITH PRISONERS. WITH CHILDREN

01:52:56.169 --> 01:52:59.339
IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. OKAY.

01:52:59.405 --> 01:53:01.040
UNLESS THERE ANYONE ELSE

01:53:01.107 --> 01:53:03.109
WISHING EXPRESS OPPOSITION. AB

01:53:03.176 --> 01:53:04.577
1959. I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE

01:53:04.644 --> 01:53:06.112
DAIS FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR

01:53:06.179 --> 01:53:10.350
COMMENTS. RON. SENATOR AB 1959

01:53:10.416 --> 01:53:13.253
BY A SUMMER PATEL OKAY, SEEING

01:53:13.319 --> 01:53:14.921
NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. WE DO

01:53:14.988 --> 01:53:16.489
NOT YET HAVE A QUORUM AS WELL.

01:53:16.556 --> 01:53:18.024
I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER YOU TO

01:53:18.091 --> 01:53:19.359
MAKE A CLOSING STATEMENT. THANK

01:53:19.425 --> 01:53:21.027
YOU, MR. CHAIR. I WOULD LIKE TO

01:53:21.094 --> 01:53:22.896
JUST BRING BACK TO THE MEMBERS

01:53:22.962 --> 01:53:24.497
OF THIS COMMITTEE THAT THIS IS

01:53:24.564 --> 01:53:26.599
A SIMPLE BILL TO CLOSE, A

01:53:26.666 --> 01:53:28.401
LOOPHOLE TO RESTORE JUDICIAL

01:53:28.468 --> 01:53:30.136
DISCRETION IN OUR RESENTENCING

01:53:30.203 --> 01:53:31.905
CASES, WHEN WE HAVE SITUATIONS

01:53:31.971 --> 01:53:33.840
WHERE PAROLE IS DENIED, AND

01:53:33.907 --> 01:53:35.575
THEN THERE'S AN AUTOMATIC TURN

01:53:35.642 --> 01:53:37.710
TO RELEASE. THIS IS A CLEAR

01:53:37.777 --> 01:53:38.778
LOOPHOLE FOR COMMUNITY MEMBERS

01:53:38.845 --> 01:53:40.213
TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THEY

01:53:40.280 --> 01:53:42.148
RESTORE THEIR SAFETY AS VICTIMS

01:53:42.215 --> 01:53:43.950
IN THE COMMUNITY. THESE CRIMES

01:53:44.017 --> 01:53:45.618
ARE HORRIFIC WHEN THEY'RE MASS

01:53:45.685 --> 01:53:46.753
SHOOTINGS, AND WE NEED TO MAKE

01:53:46.819 --> 01:53:47.954
SURE THAT OUR COMMUNITIES CAN

01:53:48.021 --> 01:53:49.389
FEEL SAFE, OUR COMMUNITY

01:53:49.455 --> 01:53:51.057
MEMBERS CAN FEEL SAFE IN THEIR

01:53:51.124 --> 01:53:51.791
COMMUNITIES. SO AT THE

01:53:51.858 --> 01:53:53.226
APPROPRIATE TIME, I WOULD ASK

01:53:53.293 --> 01:53:55.028
FOR AN AYE VOTE. RESPECTFULLY.

01:53:55.094 --> 01:53:56.062
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

01:53:56.129 --> 01:53:57.697
THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US

01:53:57.764 --> 01:54:00.033
TODAY. CONTINUING AND FILE

01:54:00.099 --> 01:54:03.403
ORDER, MR. LAKEY, WE WILL GET

01:54:03.469 --> 01:54:06.139
TO YOU. OTHER AUTHORS KEEP

01:54:06.206 --> 01:54:07.707
COMING IN WHO ARE AHEAD OF YOU

01:54:07.774 --> 01:54:09.709
IN FILE ORDER. WE'RE GOING TO

01:54:09.776 --> 01:54:16.216
GO TO FILE ITEM 32, A B 2235 BY

01:54:16.282 --> 01:54:27.760
SENATOR PACHECO. WHENEVER

01:54:27.827 --> 01:54:29.929
YOU'RE READY, YOU MAY PRESENT.

01:54:29.996 --> 01:54:32.098
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND

01:54:32.165 --> 01:54:34.234
SENATORS, TODAY I AM HERE TO

01:54:34.300 --> 01:54:37.804
PRESENT AB 2235, THE JUDICIAL

01:54:37.870 --> 01:54:40.039
HOME SECURITY ACT. I'D LIKE TO

01:54:40.106 --> 01:54:42.842
START BY THANKING THE COMMITTEE,

01:54:42.909 --> 01:54:45.044
AND I WILL BE ACCEPTING THE

01:54:45.111 --> 01:54:47.213
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. VIOLENCE

01:54:47.280 --> 01:54:48.948
AND THREATS AGAINST JUDGES HAVE

01:54:49.015 --> 01:54:50.216
RISEN SHARPLY, WITH THOUSANDS

01:54:50.283 --> 01:54:52.218
OF INCIDENTS REPORTED IN RECENT

01:54:52.285 --> 01:54:53.686
YEARS AND A SIGNIFICANT

01:54:53.753 --> 01:54:55.822
INCREASE SINCE 2015. AS A

01:54:55.888 --> 01:54:57.257
RESULT, MANY JUDGES AND THEIR

01:54:57.323 --> 01:54:59.092
FAMILIES FEAR FOR THEIR SAFETY.

01:54:59.158 --> 01:55:01.227
AT THE SAME TIME, JUDGES HOME

01:55:01.294 --> 01:55:02.629
ADDRESSES REMAIN EASILY

01:55:02.695 --> 01:55:03.396
ACCESSIBLE THROUGH PUBLIC

01:55:03.463 --> 01:55:05.898
RECORDS AND ONLINE DATABASES,

01:55:05.965 --> 01:55:07.300
CREATING A DIRECT PATHWAY FOR

01:55:07.367 --> 01:55:09.168
BAD ACTORS TO LOCATE THEM IN

01:55:09.235 --> 01:55:11.271
THEIR FAMILIES. EXISTING

01:55:11.337 --> 01:55:12.705
PRIVACY PROTECTIONS IN

01:55:12.772 --> 01:55:14.540
CALIFORNIA ARE INSUFFICIENT TO

01:55:14.607 --> 01:55:16.342
PROTECT. TO PREVENT THE

01:55:16.409 --> 01:55:17.777
WIDESPREAD DISSEMINATION OF

01:55:17.844 --> 01:55:20.313
THIS SENSITIVE INFORMATION,

01:55:20.380 --> 01:55:21.381
PARTICULARLY WHEN IT ORIGINATES

01:55:21.447 --> 01:55:23.883
FROM GOVERNMENT SOURCES. THIS

01:55:23.950 --> 01:55:25.718
GAP LEAVES JUDGES EXPOSED TO

01:55:25.785 --> 01:55:27.520
TARGETED HARASSMENT,

01:55:27.587 --> 01:55:28.621
INTIMIDATION AND POTENTIAL

01:55:28.688 --> 01:55:31.457
VIOLENCE AT THEIR HOMES. AB

01:55:31.524 --> 01:55:33.660
2235 ALLOWS JUDGES TO USE AN

01:55:33.726 --> 01:55:34.727
ALTERNATE ALTERNATE MAILING

01:55:34.794 --> 01:55:36.562
ADDRESS IN PUBLIC RECORDS,

01:55:36.629 --> 01:55:37.964
WHILE PRESERVING LEGITIMATE

01:55:38.031 --> 01:55:39.432
ACCESS FOR BUSINESS, LEGAL AND

01:55:39.499 --> 01:55:42.302
LAW ENFORCEMENT PURPOSES. THIS

01:55:42.368 --> 01:55:43.670
APPROACH STRIKES A CAREFUL

01:55:43.736 --> 01:55:45.805
BALANCE BETWEEN TRANSPARENCY

01:55:45.872 --> 01:55:47.640
AND SAFETY, ENSURING PUBLIC

01:55:47.707 --> 01:55:49.442
RECORDS REMAIN FUNCTIONAL

01:55:49.509 --> 01:55:51.577
WITHOUT COMPROMISING PERSONAL

01:55:51.644 --> 01:55:53.046
SECURITY. GIVEN ESCALATING

01:55:53.112 --> 01:55:55.615
THREATS AND VULNERABILITIES, AB

01:55:55.682 --> 01:55:58.451
2235 IS A NECESSARY STEP TO

01:55:58.518 --> 01:56:00.253
PROTECT THE JUDICIARY AND

01:56:00.320 --> 01:56:01.688
UPHOLD THE INTEGRITY OF THE

01:56:01.754 --> 01:56:03.523
JUSTICE SYSTEM. AND WITH ME

01:56:03.589 --> 01:56:05.692
TODAY TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT IS

01:56:05.758 --> 01:56:07.460
CLIFF COSTA ON BEHALF OF THE

01:56:07.527 --> 01:56:10.296
CALIFORNIA JUDGES ASSOCIATION.

01:56:10.363 --> 01:56:11.397
GREAT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD

01:56:11.464 --> 01:56:13.232
MORNING, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS,

01:56:13.299 --> 01:56:15.101
CLIFF COSTA TODAY ON BEHALF OF

01:56:15.168 --> 01:56:17.570
THE CALIFORNIA JUDGES

01:56:17.637 --> 01:56:18.638
ASSOCIATION, I WOULD LIKE TO

01:56:18.705 --> 01:56:19.972
THANK THE COMMITTEE AND THE

01:56:20.039 --> 01:56:21.074
COMMITTEE CONSULTANT FOR

01:56:21.140 --> 01:56:22.542
WORKING WITH US ON THIS

01:56:22.608 --> 01:56:24.410
LANGUAGE. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT

01:56:24.477 --> 01:56:25.478
THE CALIFORNIA JUDGES

01:56:25.545 --> 01:56:26.879
ASSOCIATION HAS BEEN WORKING ON

01:56:26.946 --> 01:56:29.782
FOR OVER 25 YEARS. ABOUT 25

01:56:29.849 --> 01:56:31.918
PLUS YEARS AGO, THE CALIFORNIA

01:56:31.984 --> 01:56:33.920
JUDGES ASSOCIATION PARTICIPATED

01:56:33.986 --> 01:56:35.521
ON AN ATTORNEY GENERAL TASK

01:56:35.588 --> 01:56:37.657
FORCE THAT WAS LOOKING AT

01:56:37.724 --> 01:56:39.125
VULNERABILITIES OUT THERE FOR

01:56:39.192 --> 01:56:41.294
ELECTED OFFICIALS, INCLUDING

01:56:41.361 --> 01:56:43.563
JUDGES. AT THAT TIME, WE WERE

01:56:43.629 --> 01:56:45.298
ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH A NUMBER OF

01:56:45.365 --> 01:56:47.066
THINGS COMING OUT OF THAT TASK

01:56:47.133 --> 01:56:48.801
FORCE, EXCEPT FOR PROPERTY

01:56:48.868 --> 01:56:51.571
RECORDS. SINCE THEN, TECHNOLOGY

01:56:51.637 --> 01:56:54.273
AND THE WORK OF ASSEMBLYWOMAN

01:56:54.340 --> 01:56:56.175
AND THE JUDGES ASSOCIATION HAVE

01:56:56.242 --> 01:56:57.477
BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON TRYING

01:56:57.543 --> 01:56:59.178
TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO ABOUT

01:56:59.245 --> 01:57:01.447
CRACKING THIS NUT ON PROPERTY

01:57:01.514 --> 01:57:04.717
RECORDS. WE BELIEVE AB 2235 IS

01:57:04.784 --> 01:57:06.486
THAT ATTEMPT. IT IS MODELED

01:57:06.552 --> 01:57:08.321
AFTER THE SAFE AT HOME PROGRAM,

01:57:08.388 --> 01:57:10.556
BUT ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BECAUSE

01:57:10.623 --> 01:57:12.325
IT IS FOCUSED ON JUDGES AND

01:57:12.392 --> 01:57:14.427
TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR HOME

01:57:14.494 --> 01:57:15.528
ADDRESSES WITHOUT THEM HAVING

01:57:15.595 --> 01:57:17.330
TO FLEE. THAT IS THE

01:57:17.397 --> 01:57:18.164
FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN

01:57:18.231 --> 01:57:19.665
THE SAFE AT HOME PROGRAM. WE

01:57:19.732 --> 01:57:21.234
HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO WORK

01:57:21.300 --> 01:57:23.269
WITH STAKEHOLDERS, BOTH LOCAL

01:57:23.336 --> 01:57:24.537
GOVERNMENT STAKEHOLDERS, THE

01:57:24.604 --> 01:57:25.538
ASSESSORS AND RECORDERS, AS

01:57:25.605 --> 01:57:27.006
WELL AS THE REAL ESTATE

01:57:27.073 --> 01:57:29.142
INDUSTRY, AS WELL AS THE DATA

01:57:29.208 --> 01:57:30.643
BROKERS AND OTHERS WHO NEED

01:57:30.710 --> 01:57:32.412
ACCESS TO THIS INFORMATION.

01:57:32.478 --> 01:57:33.880
WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY

01:57:33.946 --> 01:57:35.681
REQUEST YOUR AYE VOTE AND I'M

01:57:35.748 --> 01:57:36.749
AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY

01:57:36.816 --> 01:57:37.750
SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. MR. CHAIR.

01:57:37.817 --> 01:57:38.851
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE

01:57:38.918 --> 01:57:40.686
ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT

01:57:40.753 --> 01:57:44.657
FOR AB TWO, TWO, THREE, FIVE?

01:57:44.724 --> 01:57:46.159
ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL

01:57:46.225 --> 01:57:49.028
SUPPORT WITNESSES FOR AB 2235?

01:57:49.095 --> 01:57:50.129
OKAY. SEEING NO ONE COME

01:57:50.196 --> 01:57:52.031
FORWARD WILL NOT TAKE UP TO TWO

01:57:52.098 --> 01:57:52.632
PRINCIPAL OPPOSITION WITNESSES

01:57:52.698 --> 01:57:54.367
TO AB TWO, TWO THREE, FIVE. ARE

01:57:54.434 --> 01:57:59.038
THERE ANY OPPOSITION WITNESSES?

01:57:59.105 --> 01:58:00.206
SEEING NO ONE CAN AFFORD TO

01:58:00.273 --> 01:58:02.108
BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS FOR

01:58:02.175 --> 01:58:03.743
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

01:58:03.810 --> 01:58:04.844
SEEING NO MEMBERS WISHING TO

01:58:04.911 --> 01:58:06.245
SPEAK, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING

01:58:06.312 --> 01:58:07.346
THIS BILL FORWARD. IT'S VERY

01:58:07.413 --> 01:58:08.347
IMPORTANT. I HAVE AN AYE

01:58:08.414 --> 01:58:09.816
RECOMMENDATION TO CLOSE. THANK

01:58:09.882 --> 01:58:11.350
YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS

01:58:11.417 --> 01:58:13.119
OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS

01:58:13.186 --> 01:58:14.620
BILL. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR

01:58:14.687 --> 01:58:16.289
YOUR VOTE WHEN APPROPRIATE.

01:58:16.355 --> 01:58:17.790
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

01:58:17.857 --> 01:58:19.125
OKAY. MR. LACKEY, WE'RE GOING

01:58:19.192 --> 01:58:23.896
TO GO TO YOU NOW. FOR ITEM 34,

01:58:23.963 --> 01:58:26.065
AB 2304, AND THEN WE'LL GO TO

01:58:26.132 --> 01:58:43.983
MR. GIBSON AFTER. SO WE ARE NOW

01:58:44.050 --> 01:58:45.518
GOING TO PROCEED TO FILE ITEM

01:58:45.585 --> 01:58:49.121
34 AB 2304. THERE ANY PRINCIPAL

01:58:49.188 --> 01:58:50.189
WITNESSES IN SUPPORT? IF YOU

01:58:50.256 --> 01:58:55.194
CAN, PLEASE JOIN US HERE. AND

01:58:55.261 --> 01:58:56.462
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY. ASSEMBLY

01:58:56.529 --> 01:59:00.333
MEMBER, YOU MAY PRESENT ON. ALL

01:59:00.399 --> 01:59:03.870
RIGHT. THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE

01:59:03.936 --> 01:59:06.405
IT, MR. CHAIR. AND NOW WE

01:59:06.472 --> 01:59:08.875
ACTUALLY HAVE MEMBERS. SO IT'S

01:59:08.941 --> 01:59:10.743
GOOD TO SEE THAT YOU HAVE MORE

01:59:10.810 --> 01:59:15.381
THAN ONE HERE. THIS BILL, AB

01:59:15.448 --> 01:59:17.550
2304, IS KNOWN AS GABRIEL'S LAW,

01:59:17.617 --> 01:59:18.951
AND IT CLARIFIES THAT WHEN A

01:59:19.018 --> 01:59:20.786
CHILD REQUIRES IMMEDIATE

01:59:20.853 --> 01:59:23.256
EMERGENCY CARE IN AN EMERGENCY

01:59:23.322 --> 01:59:25.858
SITUATION, THE SOCIAL WORKERS

01:59:25.925 --> 01:59:27.593
MUST HAVE A CHILD SEEN BY THE

01:59:27.660 --> 01:59:29.028
APPROPRIATE MEDICAL

01:59:29.095 --> 01:59:30.830
PROFESSIONALS. THIS BILL

01:59:30.897 --> 01:59:33.733
ADDITIONALLY CLARIFIES WITH

01:59:33.799 --> 01:59:35.167
EXISTING LAW THAT SOCIAL

01:59:35.234 --> 01:59:36.969
WORKERS MUST BE HELD

01:59:37.036 --> 01:59:38.771
ACCOUNTABLE FOR FALSIFYING

01:59:38.838 --> 01:59:40.940
REPORTS. AS YOU MAY KNOW, SINCE

01:59:41.007 --> 01:59:42.141
I BECAME A LEGISLATOR, I'VE

01:59:42.208 --> 01:59:43.776
BEEN TRYING TO PASS LEGISLATION

01:59:43.843 --> 01:59:45.611
REVOLVING AROUND THIS HORRIFIC

01:59:45.678 --> 01:59:47.747
CHILD ABUSE CASE OF GABRIEL

01:59:47.813 --> 01:59:49.849
FERNANDEZ. HE WAS AN EIGHT YEAR

01:59:49.916 --> 01:59:51.751
OLD BOY WHO WAS TORTURED AND

01:59:51.817 --> 01:59:53.653
KILLED BY HIS OWN MOTHER AND

01:59:53.719 --> 01:59:56.822
HER BOYFRIEND. IN HIS CASE, THE

01:59:56.889 --> 01:59:58.891
SOCIAL WORKERS INVOLVED FAILED

01:59:58.958 --> 02:00:00.760
TO TAKE THE NECESSARY

02:00:00.826 --> 02:00:02.862
PRECAUTIONS NEEDED TO PROTECT

02:00:02.929 --> 02:00:04.063
THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE

02:00:04.130 --> 02:00:05.431
CALLED OUT TO SEE HIM MULTIPLE

02:00:05.498 --> 02:00:07.533
TIMES FOR VARIOUS INJURIES. HIS

02:00:07.600 --> 02:00:10.102
BODY CHART WAS ONLY UPDATED

02:00:10.169 --> 02:00:11.537
ONCE WITH A BRUISE ON HIS

02:00:11.604 --> 02:00:13.339
BOTTOM, PREVENTING ANY FURTHER

02:00:13.406 --> 02:00:14.407
INVESTIGATION FROM BEING SEEN

02:00:14.473 --> 02:00:17.276
BY A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL.

02:00:17.343 --> 02:00:18.744
ADDITIONALLY, VARIOUS SOCIAL

02:00:18.811 --> 02:00:20.846
WORKERS THAT HE WAS ASSIGNED

02:00:20.913 --> 02:00:23.449
BACKDATED AND FALSIFIED RECORDS

02:00:23.516 --> 02:00:25.217
WHEN HIS CASE WAS CLOSED A

02:00:25.284 --> 02:00:26.819
MONTH BEFORE HE WAS KILLED, ONE

02:00:26.886 --> 02:00:28.454
SOCIAL WORKER CHANGED THE DATE

02:00:28.521 --> 02:00:30.723
TO BE MARCH INSTEAD OF APRIL.

02:00:30.790 --> 02:00:32.058
IN ORDER TO NOT BE HELD

02:00:32.124 --> 02:00:33.859
RESPONSIBLE FOR VISITS TO THE

02:00:33.926 --> 02:00:36.762
FAMILY. IN HIS FINAL MONTH, THE

02:00:36.829 --> 02:00:38.531
FOUR SOCIAL WORKERS IN

02:00:38.598 --> 02:00:39.632
GABRIEL'S CASE WERE CHARGED

02:00:39.699 --> 02:00:40.967
WITH ONE COUNT OF CHILD ABUSE

02:00:41.033 --> 02:00:42.468
AND ONE COUNT OF FALSIFYING

02:00:42.535 --> 02:00:44.670
PUBLIC RECORDS. BUT

02:00:44.737 --> 02:00:46.072
UNFORTUNATELY, ALL CHARGES WERE

02:00:46.138 --> 02:00:48.708
DISMISSED. IN 2020. THE DEATH

02:00:48.774 --> 02:00:50.409
OF GABRIEL FERNANDEZ HAS SERVED

02:00:50.476 --> 02:00:53.312
AS A WAKE UP CALL TO FOCUS OUR

02:00:53.379 --> 02:00:55.414
COLLECTIVE CONSCIENCE ON THE

02:00:55.481 --> 02:00:57.283
SYSTEMATIC FAILURE TO PROTECT

02:00:57.350 --> 02:00:59.752
INNOCENT CHILDREN. THIS TRAGEDY

02:00:59.819 --> 02:01:01.087
REVEALED THAT THERE ARE MANY

02:01:01.153 --> 02:01:02.622
CRACKS WITHIN THE CHILD WELFARE

02:01:02.688 --> 02:01:04.090
SYSTEM THAT MALIGN THE

02:01:04.156 --> 02:01:06.626
INTERESTS OF THESE CHILDREN.

02:01:06.692 --> 02:01:09.829
THIS BILL, AB 2304, MAKES A

02:01:09.895 --> 02:01:11.697
NECESSARY CHANGE AND CLARIFIES

02:01:11.764 --> 02:01:13.833
IN CURRENT LAW TO HELP PREVENT

02:01:13.899 --> 02:01:15.968
ANY MORE CASES LIKE GABRIEL.

02:01:16.035 --> 02:01:18.104
THIS BILL REQUIRES THAT IF A

02:01:18.170 --> 02:01:19.572
CHILD APPEARS TO BE IN NEED OF

02:01:19.639 --> 02:01:22.208
IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY CARE, THAT

02:01:22.274 --> 02:01:25.344
THE SOCIAL WORKER CALL TO THE

02:01:25.411 --> 02:01:27.880
CASE AND MUST HAVE THE CHILD

02:01:27.947 --> 02:01:30.249
EVALUATED FURTHER. ADDITIONALLY,

02:01:30.316 --> 02:01:32.551
AB 2304 CLARIFIES THAT SOCIAL

02:01:32.618 --> 02:01:34.320
WORKERS WHO WILLFULLY AND

02:01:34.387 --> 02:01:37.189
KNOWINGLY STEAL, REMOVE, HIDE,

02:01:37.256 --> 02:01:39.725
DESTROY, DAMAGE, DEFACE OR

02:01:39.792 --> 02:01:42.028
CHANGE OR FALSIFY RECORDS WILL

02:01:42.094 --> 02:01:44.730
BE CHARGED WITH THESE OFFENSES.

02:01:44.797 --> 02:01:46.232
SENATORS, THIS IS MY 12TH AND

02:01:46.298 --> 02:01:47.667
FINAL YEAR AS AN ASSEMBLY

02:01:47.733 --> 02:01:49.101
MEMBER. IT'S ALSO THE SEVENTH

02:01:49.168 --> 02:01:50.903
YEAR I'VE TRIED RUNNING

02:01:50.970 --> 02:01:52.004
LEGISLATION TO CORRECT THIS

02:01:52.071 --> 02:01:54.407
HORRIFIC WRONG. IT MEANS A LOT

02:01:54.473 --> 02:01:56.809
TO ME AND THOSE WITH ME THAT

02:01:56.876 --> 02:01:58.244
HAVE MADE AN EIGHT HOUR JOURNEY

02:01:58.310 --> 02:01:59.845
UP TO SACRAMENTO FOR ALL THESE

02:01:59.912 --> 02:02:01.881
YEARS, ATTEMPTING TO PREVENT

02:02:01.947 --> 02:02:03.249
THIS TYPE OF HEARTACHE THAT

02:02:03.315 --> 02:02:05.284
THEY'VE EXPERIENCED. I HAVE

02:02:05.351 --> 02:02:07.420
WITH ME TODAY GABRIEL ZANDT,

02:02:07.486 --> 02:02:12.158
EMILY CARRANZA, AND AND DAN

02:02:12.224 --> 02:02:13.292
FELIZARDO WITH THE LOS ANGELES

02:02:13.359 --> 02:02:15.027
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY

02:02:15.094 --> 02:02:18.931
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO TESTIFY.

02:02:18.998 --> 02:02:20.066
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD

02:02:20.132 --> 02:02:27.273
MORNING. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME

02:02:27.339 --> 02:02:30.242
IS EMILY CARRANZA, AND I'M I AM

02:02:30.309 --> 02:02:32.311
HERE TODAY IN MEMORY OF GABRIEL

02:02:32.378 --> 02:02:34.413
FERNANDEZ, ANTHONY AVALOS, AND

02:02:34.480 --> 02:02:36.982
NOAH CUATRO. A QUESTION WAS

02:02:37.049 --> 02:02:39.118
ASKED, WHY IS GABRIEL'S LAW

02:02:39.185 --> 02:02:42.354
NECESSARY? THE ANSWER IS CLEAR.

02:02:42.421 --> 02:02:43.823
GABRIEL'S LAW IS NECESSARY

02:02:43.889 --> 02:02:45.658
BECAUSE CHILDREN CANNOT PROTECT

02:02:45.725 --> 02:02:47.727
THEMSELVES WHEN A CHILD IS

02:02:47.793 --> 02:02:49.962
BEING ABUSED, NEGLECTED OR

02:02:50.029 --> 02:02:52.198
SUFFERING IN SILENCE, THEY RELY

02:02:52.264 --> 02:02:53.899
ON ADULTS AND THE SYSTEMS

02:02:53.966 --> 02:02:55.334
DESIGNED TO PROTECT THEM TO

02:02:55.401 --> 02:02:58.571
STEP IN BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.

02:02:58.637 --> 02:03:00.506
SADLY, CALIFORNIA HAS WITNESSED

02:03:00.573 --> 02:03:02.508
THE DEVASTATING CONSEQUENCES

02:03:02.575 --> 02:03:05.044
WHEN THOSE PROTECTIONS FAIL.

02:03:05.111 --> 02:03:06.245
GABRIEL FERNANDEZ WAS ONLY

02:03:06.312 --> 02:03:08.280
EIGHT YEARS OLD WHEN HE WAS

02:03:08.347 --> 02:03:09.749
TORTURED AND MURDERED. DESPITE

02:03:09.815 --> 02:03:11.917
NUMEROUS REPORTS OF ABUSE.

02:03:11.984 --> 02:03:13.452
ANTHONY AVALOS WAS TEN YEARS

02:03:13.519 --> 02:03:15.821
OLD WHEN HE DIED AFTER ENDURING

02:03:15.888 --> 02:03:17.656
HORRIFIC ABUSE AND REPEATED

02:03:17.723 --> 02:03:19.825
WARNING SIGNS THAT SHOULD HAVE

02:03:19.892 --> 02:03:22.328
TRIGGERED STRONGER INTERVENTION.

02:03:22.394 --> 02:03:24.430
NOAH WAS JUST FOUR YEARS OLD

02:03:24.497 --> 02:03:25.965
WHEN HIS YOUNG LIFE WAS CUT

02:03:26.031 --> 02:03:28.100
SHORT AFTER CONCERNS ABOUT HIS

02:03:28.167 --> 02:03:30.603
SAFETY HAD BEEN RAISED. THESE

02:03:30.669 --> 02:03:32.772
CHILDREN HAD NAMES, THEY HAD

02:03:32.838 --> 02:03:36.008
DREAMS, THEY HAD FUTURES. MOST

02:03:36.075 --> 02:03:37.443
IMPORTANTLY, THEY DESERVED TO

02:03:37.510 --> 02:03:40.713
BE PROTECTED. GABRIEL'S LAW IS

02:03:40.780 --> 02:03:42.114
NECESSARY BECAUSE THE LESSONS

02:03:42.181 --> 02:03:43.549
LEARNED FROM THESE TRAGEDIES

02:03:43.616 --> 02:03:46.085
MUST LEAD TO ACTION. IT IS

02:03:46.152 --> 02:03:47.553
ABOUT STRENGTHENING

02:03:47.620 --> 02:03:50.422
ACCOUNTABILITY, IMPROVING

02:03:50.489 --> 02:03:51.457
COMMUNICATION, ENSURING

02:03:51.524 --> 02:03:53.025
THOROUGH INVESTIGATIONS, AND

02:03:53.092 --> 02:03:55.094
MAKING CHILD SAFETY THE HIGHEST

02:03:55.161 --> 02:03:57.229
PRIORITY. IT IS ABOUT

02:03:57.296 --> 02:03:58.297
PREVENTING WARNING SIGNS FROM

02:03:58.364 --> 02:04:00.299
BEING OVERLOOKED AND ENSURING

02:04:00.366 --> 02:04:01.934
THAT CRIES FOR HELP ARE MET

02:04:02.001 --> 02:04:05.204
WITH IMMEDIATE ACTION. THIS

02:04:05.271 --> 02:04:06.972
LEGISLATION IS NOT ABOUT

02:04:07.039 --> 02:04:08.407
POLITICS, IT IS ABOUT

02:04:08.474 --> 02:04:09.875
PROTECTING CHILDREN. IT IS

02:04:09.942 --> 02:04:11.644
ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE

02:04:11.710 --> 02:04:13.479
STORIES OF GABRIEL, ANTHONY AND

02:04:13.546 --> 02:04:15.948
NOAH BECOME CATALYSTS FOR

02:04:16.015 --> 02:04:17.383
CHANGE, RATHER THAN JUST

02:04:17.449 --> 02:04:19.552
HEADLINES THAT FADE WITH TIME.

02:04:19.618 --> 02:04:22.054
WE CANNOT BRING THESE BOYS BACK,

02:04:22.121 --> 02:04:23.889
BUT WE CAN HONOR THEIR LIVES BY

02:04:23.956 --> 02:04:25.324
BUILDING A STRONGER CHILD

02:04:25.391 --> 02:04:27.493
WELFARE SYSTEM THAT RESPONDS

02:04:27.560 --> 02:04:29.995
QUICKLY, ACTS DECISIVELY, AND

02:04:30.062 --> 02:04:32.198
PUTS CHILDREN FIRST. I ASK YOU

02:04:32.264 --> 02:04:33.666
TO SUPPORT GABRIEL'S LAW SO

02:04:33.732 --> 02:04:35.734
THAT FUTURE CHILDREN HAVE THE

02:04:35.801 --> 02:04:36.836
PROTECTION THAT GABRIEL,

02:04:36.902 --> 02:04:38.037
ANTHONY AND NOAH DESERVED BUT

02:04:38.103 --> 02:04:40.206
NEVER RECEIVED. THEIR VOICES

02:04:40.272 --> 02:04:41.974
WERE SILENCED, BUT OURS DO NOT

02:04:42.041 --> 02:04:44.343
HAVE TO BE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

02:04:44.410 --> 02:04:45.845
TIME, YOUR COMPASSION, AND YOUR

02:04:45.911 --> 02:04:47.279
COMMITMENT TO PROTECTING

02:04:47.346 --> 02:04:49.048
CALIFORNIA'S CHILDREN. LET THE

02:04:49.114 --> 02:04:50.883
LEGACY OF GABRIEL FERNANDEZ,

02:04:50.950 --> 02:04:52.818
ANTHONY AVALOS, AND NOAH CUATRO

02:04:52.885 --> 02:04:55.254
BE ONE OF THE LASTING CHANGE

02:04:55.321 --> 02:04:56.288
AND STRONGER PROTECTIONS FOR

02:04:56.355 --> 02:04:58.457
EVERY CHILD IN OUR STATE. THANK

02:04:58.524 --> 02:04:59.692
YOU SO VERY MUCH, AND THANK YOU

02:04:59.758 --> 02:05:01.460
FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING.

02:05:01.527 --> 02:05:04.730
THANK YOU SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN,

02:05:04.797 --> 02:05:06.732
MEMBERS, ON BEHALF OF THE LOS

02:05:06.799 --> 02:05:07.666
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT

02:05:07.733 --> 02:05:08.901
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I'M NOT

02:05:08.968 --> 02:05:10.302
GOING TO REPEAT WHAT HAS

02:05:10.369 --> 02:05:13.038
ALREADY BEEN SAID, EXCEPT TO

02:05:13.105 --> 02:05:16.075
THE FACT THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT

02:05:16.141 --> 02:05:17.877
OFFICERS, WHEN WE ARE

02:05:17.943 --> 02:05:19.345
INVESTIGATING THESE CASES, WE

02:05:19.411 --> 02:05:22.581
HEAR OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IF

02:05:22.648 --> 02:05:24.149
ONLY THIS CHILD HAD BEEN SEEN

02:05:24.216 --> 02:05:26.952
BY A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL, THAT

02:05:27.019 --> 02:05:29.054
MAYBE SOMETHING WOULD HAVE BEEN

02:05:29.121 --> 02:05:30.256
DONE. AND WE DON'T WIND UP WITH

02:05:30.322 --> 02:05:32.992
THESE HORRIFIC CASES THAT ARE

02:05:33.058 --> 02:05:35.527
JUST TRAGEDIES. THIS BILL WILL

02:05:35.594 --> 02:05:37.696
HELP ENSURE THAT BY REQUIRING

02:05:37.763 --> 02:05:41.300
THAT THE CHILDREN ARE TAKEN TO

02:05:41.367 --> 02:05:44.203
MEDICAL CARE, NOT MERELY

02:05:44.270 --> 02:05:45.304
AUTHORIZING THAT THEY ARE TAKEN

02:05:45.371 --> 02:05:47.773
FOR MEDICAL CARE. THIS BILL

02:05:47.840 --> 02:05:51.377
ALSO CLARIFIES THE GOVERNMENT

02:05:51.443 --> 02:05:54.613
CODE IN THE PROSECUTION OF

02:05:54.680 --> 02:05:56.448
GABRIEL FERNANDEZ. WE DID

02:05:56.515 --> 02:06:00.386
CHARGE THE SOCIAL WORKERS WITH

02:06:00.452 --> 02:06:01.954
DESTROYING EVIDENCE. THE COURT

02:06:02.021 --> 02:06:04.790
OF APPEAL DID NOT FIND THAT THE

02:06:04.857 --> 02:06:06.125
THE INDIVIDUALS DIDN'T DESTROY

02:06:06.191 --> 02:06:07.960
THE EVIDENCE. THEY FOUND THAT

02:06:08.027 --> 02:06:09.361
THEY WERE CHARGED UNDER THE

02:06:09.428 --> 02:06:12.998
WRONG CODE SECTION. AND BY THE

02:06:13.065 --> 02:06:14.700
TIME THAT HAD BEEN DISCOVERED,

02:06:14.767 --> 02:06:16.535
IT WAS TOO LATE TO REFILE

02:06:16.602 --> 02:06:18.771
CHARGES. SO WE'RE AMEND

02:06:18.837 --> 02:06:21.941
GOVERNMENT CODE 6201 TO CLARIFY

02:06:22.007 --> 02:06:24.476
FOR DA'S IN THE FUTURE THAT IF

02:06:24.543 --> 02:06:26.679
YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE TRAGIC

02:06:26.745 --> 02:06:28.447
CASES AND THE SOCIAL WORKER IS

02:06:28.514 --> 02:06:30.950
NOT A COURT OFFICER, THEY CAN

02:06:31.016 --> 02:06:33.218
BE CHARGED UNDER GOVERNMENT

02:06:33.285 --> 02:06:38.891
CODE SECTION 621, NOT 6200. THE

02:06:38.958 --> 02:06:40.192
AT LEAST IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY,

02:06:40.259 --> 02:06:41.894
I'M SURE IT'S PROBABLY THE SAME

02:06:41.961 --> 02:06:43.028
IN OTHER COUNTIES. WE HAVE

02:06:43.095 --> 02:06:43.996
SOCIAL WORKERS. SOME ARE

02:06:44.063 --> 02:06:45.798
CONSIDERED COURT OFFICERS AND

02:06:45.864 --> 02:06:47.132
WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO CHARGE

02:06:47.199 --> 02:06:49.335
UNDER SECTION 6200, BUT THE

02:06:49.401 --> 02:06:50.736
VAST MAJORITY ARE NOT

02:06:50.803 --> 02:06:52.204
CONSIDERED COURT OFFICERS AND

02:06:52.271 --> 02:06:54.006
THEREFORE CANNOT BE PROSECUTED

02:06:54.073 --> 02:06:55.441
UNDER THAT CODE SECTION. THIS

02:06:55.507 --> 02:06:58.043
BILL JUST SIMPLY CLARIFIES WHAT

02:06:58.110 --> 02:07:00.479
THE PROPER CODE SECTIONS ARE

02:07:00.546 --> 02:07:03.015
FOR ANY FUTURE CASE THAT ARISES.

02:07:03.082 --> 02:07:05.150
WE ASK FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU

02:07:05.217 --> 02:07:06.618
VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE WISHING

02:07:06.685 --> 02:07:10.956
TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR AB 2304?

02:07:11.023 --> 02:07:12.424
SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD,

02:07:12.491 --> 02:07:13.826
WE'LL TAKE UP TO TWO PRINCIPAL

02:07:13.892 --> 02:07:21.400
OPPOSITION WITNESSES TO AB 2304.

02:07:21.467 --> 02:07:24.570
YES. HI, MICHAEL. HEFTY, I AM A

02:07:24.636 --> 02:07:26.071
ATTORNEY WITH LOS ANGELES

02:07:26.138 --> 02:07:27.873
DEPENDENCY LAWYERS. WE DO

02:07:27.940 --> 02:07:30.009
OPPOSE THIS BILL ONLY TO THE

02:07:30.075 --> 02:07:32.144
EXTENT THAT IT DOES NOT REQUIRE

02:07:32.211 --> 02:07:33.979
FELONY PROSECUTION FOR SOCIAL

02:07:34.046 --> 02:07:35.047
WORKERS WHO HAVE COMMITTED

02:07:35.114 --> 02:07:36.749
THESE ACTS. WE CERTAINLY VIEW

02:07:36.815 --> 02:07:40.085
THE BILL AS FURTHERING A NOBLE

02:07:40.152 --> 02:07:42.254
GOAL SPECIFICALLY TO PROTECT

02:07:42.321 --> 02:07:45.157
CHILDREN BY IMPOSING PENALTIES

02:07:45.224 --> 02:07:46.959
AND SPECIFYING PENALTIES FOR

02:07:47.026 --> 02:07:48.894
SOCIAL WORKERS THAT ARE ALLEGED

02:07:48.961 --> 02:07:50.229
TO HAVE FALSIFIED RECORDS, AS

02:07:50.295 --> 02:07:52.831
IT WERE, HERE. WE DO THINK THAT

02:07:52.898 --> 02:07:55.234
THE GOAL OF THIS BILL IS QUITE

02:07:55.300 --> 02:07:58.070
AN IMPORTANT ONE, BUT THE

02:07:58.137 --> 02:07:59.605
ACTUAL EFFECT OF THE BILL CAN

02:07:59.671 --> 02:08:02.074
BE PARTICULARLY MINIMAL, WHERE

02:08:02.141 --> 02:08:03.842
THE BILL DOES NOT ACTUALLY

02:08:03.909 --> 02:08:05.677
AMEND THE CODE SECTION IN A WAY

02:08:05.744 --> 02:08:08.580
THAT WOULD ALLOW PROSECUTION

02:08:08.647 --> 02:08:09.982
SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FELONY. WE

02:08:10.049 --> 02:08:11.750
DO BELIEVE THAT THE FELONY

02:08:11.817 --> 02:08:13.585
CONVICTION SHOULD BE THE

02:08:13.652 --> 02:08:15.721
APPROPRIATE PUNISHMENT FOR

02:08:15.788 --> 02:08:16.855
PARTICULARLY SOCIAL WORKERS IN

02:08:16.922 --> 02:08:19.024
THIS CASE, WHO COMMITTED THESE

02:08:19.091 --> 02:08:22.561
ACTS. THE 6201 SECTION, HOWEVER,

02:08:22.628 --> 02:08:24.396
DOES ALLOW FOR MISDEMEANOR

02:08:24.463 --> 02:08:25.097
CONVICTIONS, AND THAT'S

02:08:25.164 --> 02:08:27.633
SOMETHING THAT ALTHOUGH THE

02:08:27.699 --> 02:08:29.101
FELONY OR EXCUSE ME, ALTHOUGH

02:08:29.168 --> 02:08:30.803
THE ACTS MAY BE CHARGED AS A

02:08:30.869 --> 02:08:31.737
FELONY, THE JUDGE WOULD HAVE

02:08:31.804 --> 02:08:33.105
THE DISCRETION NECESSARILY NOT

02:08:33.172 --> 02:08:36.241
TO IMPOSE A FELONY TERM. THE

02:08:36.308 --> 02:08:38.110
BILL SHOULD HAVE NECESSARILY

02:08:38.177 --> 02:08:40.179
AMENDED 6200, WHICH WAS THE

02:08:40.245 --> 02:08:42.381
ORIGINAL CODE SECTION THAT THE

02:08:42.448 --> 02:08:43.782
PROSECUTORS ATTEMPTED TO USE TO

02:08:43.849 --> 02:08:45.584
CHARGE A SOCIAL WORKERS IN THIS

02:08:45.651 --> 02:08:47.453
CASE, OR ALTERNATIVELY, THE

02:08:47.519 --> 02:08:49.254
BILL SHOULD AIM TO ALTER

02:08:49.321 --> 02:08:51.356
GOVERNMENT CODE 24,000 TO

02:08:51.423 --> 02:08:52.825
SPECIFICALLY LIST COUNTY CHILD

02:08:52.891 --> 02:08:54.993
WELFARE SOCIAL WORKERS AS

02:08:55.060 --> 02:08:56.895
OFFICERS TO PERMIT THAT, EXCUSE

02:08:56.962 --> 02:08:58.964
ME, CORRESPONDING FELONY

02:08:59.031 --> 02:09:00.499
CONVICTION. WE ARE ASKING THAT

02:09:00.566 --> 02:09:02.367
IF THIS COMMITTEE DOES CONSIDER

02:09:02.434 --> 02:09:03.635
THE BILL, THAT THE COMMITTEE

02:09:03.702 --> 02:09:05.070
ALTER THE BILL TO SPECIFICALLY

02:09:05.137 --> 02:09:08.307
AMEND 6200 TO INCLUDE SOCIAL

02:09:08.373 --> 02:09:10.476
WORKERS AS OFFICERS OR

02:09:10.542 --> 02:09:12.044
GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 24,000

02:09:12.111 --> 02:09:14.446
TO DO THE SAME TO REQUIRE

02:09:14.513 --> 02:09:15.981
FELONY CONVICTION FOR THESE

02:09:16.048 --> 02:09:17.649
TYPES OF ACTS, ESPECIALLY IN

02:09:17.716 --> 02:09:19.084
CASES WHERE CHILD DEATH IS

02:09:19.151 --> 02:09:20.552
CONCERNED. BUT EVEN IN ALL

02:09:20.619 --> 02:09:22.688
CASES, FALSIFYING OF AN

02:09:22.754 --> 02:09:23.789
OFFICIAL RECORD RELATED TO

02:09:23.856 --> 02:09:25.557
CHILD WELFARE SHOULD BE PURSUED

02:09:25.624 --> 02:09:27.826
UNDER FELONY CONVICTION THROUGH

02:09:27.893 --> 02:09:33.866
SECTION 6200. THANK YOU. YES.

02:09:33.932 --> 02:09:39.271
THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THERE

02:09:39.338 --> 02:09:41.473
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

02:09:41.540 --> 02:09:43.942
OPPOSITION TO AB 2304? IF SO,

02:09:44.009 --> 02:09:45.043
PLEASE APPROACH THE MICROPHONE.

02:09:45.110 --> 02:09:46.478
STATE YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION

02:09:46.545 --> 02:09:49.715
AND POSITION ON THE BILL.

02:09:49.781 --> 02:09:50.949
SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME FORWARD

02:09:51.016 --> 02:09:52.684
OR BRING IT BACK TO THE

02:09:52.751 --> 02:09:53.785
COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR

02:09:53.852 --> 02:09:56.155
COMMENTS. VICE CHAIR YEAH, I

02:09:56.221 --> 02:09:57.823
JUST WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR

02:09:57.890 --> 02:09:59.391
FOR BRINGING THIS AND HAVING

02:09:59.458 --> 02:10:01.560
SUCH AND PERSEVERING ON THIS

02:10:01.627 --> 02:10:04.129
ISSUE FOR SO LONG. YOU KNOW,

02:10:04.196 --> 02:10:06.598
THIS ISN'T THE USUAL CASE WHERE

02:10:06.665 --> 02:10:08.767
PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE

02:10:08.834 --> 02:10:11.670
PUNISHMENT. AND AS YOU KNOW,

02:10:11.737 --> 02:10:13.272
THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE PAID

02:10:13.338 --> 02:10:15.607
TO DO A JOB. AND WHEN YOU'RE

02:10:15.674 --> 02:10:17.776
FALSIFYING INFORMATION, WHEN

02:10:17.843 --> 02:10:19.244
YOU'RE BACKDATING AND DOING

02:10:19.311 --> 02:10:20.746
THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW,

02:10:20.812 --> 02:10:22.214
YOU'RE DOING IT, YOU KNOW

02:10:22.281 --> 02:10:24.616
YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING WRONG.

02:10:24.683 --> 02:10:26.051
AND IF YOU KNOW WHAT THE

02:10:26.118 --> 02:10:28.253
CONSEQUENCES ARE AND YOU DID IT

02:10:28.320 --> 02:10:30.389
AND YOU DO IT ANYWAY, THEN YOU

02:10:30.455 --> 02:10:32.858
GET TO SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.

02:10:32.925 --> 02:10:34.660
AND, YOU KNOW, IN THIS

02:10:34.726 --> 02:10:36.094
PARTICULAR CASE, THERE WERE A

02:10:36.161 --> 02:10:38.630
LOT OF A LOT OF ISSUES THAT

02:10:38.697 --> 02:10:40.065
FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS ALONG

02:10:40.132 --> 02:10:42.801
THE WAY. AND, AND IT RESULTED

02:10:42.868 --> 02:10:44.436
IN A HORRIFIC DEATH OF THIS

02:10:44.503 --> 02:10:46.205
YOUNG, YOUNG MAN. HE WAS OUT IN

02:10:46.271 --> 02:10:47.739
LANCASTER, I BELIEVE. RIGHT?

02:10:47.806 --> 02:10:48.740
YEAH. THAT'S AN AREA THAT I

02:10:48.807 --> 02:10:50.475
USED TO COVER. IN FACT, IT

02:10:50.542 --> 02:10:51.677
HAPPENED IN THE DISTRICT I USED

02:10:51.743 --> 02:10:54.913
TO COVER. SO IT'S SAD WHEN WHEN

02:10:54.980 --> 02:10:57.149
THAT HAPPENS AND, AND SOMEHOW

02:10:57.216 --> 02:10:59.418
OUR SAFETY NET FAILS. AND WHEN

02:10:59.484 --> 02:11:01.019
IT FAILS, WE NEED TO ADDRESS

02:11:01.086 --> 02:11:02.421
THAT. AND THAT'S WHAT YOUR BILL

02:11:02.487 --> 02:11:03.922
IS TRYING TO DO. AND I

02:11:03.989 --> 02:11:05.657
APPRECIATE IT. SO ANYWAY, WHEN

02:11:05.724 --> 02:11:07.826
TIME COMES, I'LL BE SUPPORTING.

02:11:07.893 --> 02:11:09.261
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'LL TURN

02:11:09.328 --> 02:11:10.929
IT BACK OVER TO YOU, ASSEMBLY

02:11:10.996 --> 02:11:12.064
MEMBER, TO MAKE A CLOSING

02:11:12.130 --> 02:11:15.734
STATEMENT. YEAH, I'LL JUST TELL

02:11:15.801 --> 02:11:20.772
YOU, THIS PROBLEM IS REAL. AND

02:11:20.839 --> 02:11:22.874
CURRENTLY THIS IS NOT JUST A

02:11:22.941 --> 02:11:24.710
ONE OFF. FORTUNATELY, THE

02:11:24.776 --> 02:11:26.511
DRAMATIC NATURE OF THE WAY THAT

02:11:26.578 --> 02:11:27.646
THIS CHILD WAS TORTURED WAS

02:11:27.713 --> 02:11:29.815
VERY DRAMATIC AND SOMEWHAT

02:11:29.881 --> 02:11:31.917
UNIQUE. HOWEVER, THE FACT THAT

02:11:31.984 --> 02:11:33.218
CHILDREN ARE BEING KILLED BY

02:11:33.285 --> 02:11:36.955
THEIR PARENTS IS ALMOST

02:11:37.022 --> 02:11:38.757
UNTHINKABLE. BUT IT HAS

02:11:38.824 --> 02:11:41.360
HAPPENED AT LEAST FIVE TIMES

02:11:41.426 --> 02:11:43.095
SINCE I'VE BEEN IN OFFICE. FIVE

02:11:43.161 --> 02:11:45.264
TIMES, IN FACT, IS WE CURRENTLY

02:11:45.330 --> 02:11:48.133
HAVE A CASE THAT'S BEING HEARD

02:11:48.200 --> 02:11:51.036
BY A FRIEND OF MINE WHERE THE

02:11:51.103 --> 02:11:53.672
CHILD HAS NO ADVOCATES IN THIS

02:11:53.739 --> 02:11:56.775
COURT TRIAL, EXCEPT MY FRIEND

02:11:56.842 --> 02:11:58.610
THAT'S LISTENING TO THE

02:11:58.677 --> 02:12:01.113
HORRIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES

02:12:01.179 --> 02:12:02.147
SURROUNDING THESE CHILDREN WHO

02:12:02.214 --> 02:12:06.485
NEED ADVOCATES. AND WHEN WE

02:12:06.551 --> 02:12:09.721
HAVE STAFF, PEOPLE AND PEOPLE

02:12:09.788 --> 02:12:12.291
RESPOND THAT SHOW IRRESPONSIBLE

02:12:12.357 --> 02:12:14.092
BEHAVIOR, WE NEED TO ADDRESS

02:12:14.159 --> 02:12:15.494
THAT IN THE WAY THAT IT

02:12:15.560 --> 02:12:16.728
DESERVES TO BE ADDRESSED. AND

02:12:16.795 --> 02:12:18.463
THAT'S ALL THIS BILL DOES. AND

02:12:18.530 --> 02:12:20.232
SO I HOPE WHEN IT COMES TIME

02:12:20.299 --> 02:12:22.000
THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER THAT AND

02:12:22.067 --> 02:12:25.604
ACT IN THEIR BEHALF. GREAT.

02:12:25.671 --> 02:12:26.505
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU

02:12:26.571 --> 02:12:28.573
ALL FOR JOINING US TODAY. WE

02:12:28.640 --> 02:12:29.941
DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. SO

02:12:30.008 --> 02:12:30.976
ENTERTAIN A MOTION WHEN WE

02:12:31.043 --> 02:12:32.511
ESTABLISH A QUORUM. THANK YOU

02:12:32.577 --> 02:12:36.048
SIR. THANK YOU. OKAY.

02:12:36.114 --> 02:12:38.483
PROCEEDING IN FILE ORDER. I SEE

02:12:38.550 --> 02:12:40.686
A SIMILAR ADDRESS HERE. SO

02:12:40.752 --> 02:12:44.289
WE'LL GO NOW TO ITEM NINE AB

02:12:44.356 --> 02:12:58.303
1539. AND WHENEVER YOU'RE READY,

02:12:58.370 --> 02:12:59.404
ASSEMBLY MEMBER, YOU MAY

02:12:59.471 --> 02:13:02.708
PRESENT ON AB 1539. THANK YOU

02:13:02.774 --> 02:13:04.309
SO MUCH, MR. CHAIR. WE'RE HERE

02:13:04.376 --> 02:13:08.046
FOR AB 1539 TO PROTECT OUR

02:13:08.113 --> 02:13:10.215
DEMOCRACY ACT. AND JUST TO

02:13:10.282 --> 02:13:11.683
PRESERVE YOUR TIME, I KNOW YOU

02:13:11.750 --> 02:13:13.618
HAVE A LONG DAY. I'M GOING TO

02:13:13.685 --> 02:13:14.753
TIGHTEN UP MY COMMENTS, BUT THE

02:13:14.820 --> 02:13:16.621
GIST IS THAT THIS BILL WOULD

02:13:16.688 --> 02:13:18.156
STRENGTHEN CRITICAL

02:13:18.223 --> 02:13:19.591
CONSTITUTIONAL SAFEGUARDS BY

02:13:19.658 --> 02:13:21.326
MAKING IT A CRIME UNDER PENALTY

02:13:21.393 --> 02:13:23.528
OF PERJURY, TO PLACE A

02:13:23.595 --> 02:13:25.697
CANDIDATE FOR VICE PRESIDENT OR

02:13:25.764 --> 02:13:27.866
PRESIDENT ON THE BALLOT WHO IS

02:13:27.933 --> 02:13:29.334
INELIGIBLE DUE TO

02:13:29.401 --> 02:13:31.103
CONSTITUTIONAL TERM LIMITS.

02:13:31.169 --> 02:13:32.504
MANY FOLKS ASKED, WHY WOULD WE

02:13:32.571 --> 02:13:33.939
NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS WHEN

02:13:34.005 --> 02:13:36.141
WE ALREADY HAVE A CONSTITUTION?

02:13:36.208 --> 02:13:39.010
AND CONSTITUTIONAL TERM LIMITS

02:13:39.077 --> 02:13:41.546
ARE DICTATED BY THE 22ND

02:13:41.613 --> 02:13:43.648
AMENDMENT. BUT WHAT WE KNOW IS

02:13:43.715 --> 02:13:45.117
THAT WE HAVE A PRESIDENT IN

02:13:45.183 --> 02:13:48.019
OFFICE WHO IS TRYING TO PUSH ON

02:13:48.086 --> 02:13:50.155
EVERY LEGAL MECHANISM WE HAVE,

02:13:50.222 --> 02:13:53.058
AND WHO HAS SAID THEY DESIRE TO

02:13:53.125 --> 02:13:54.526
REWRITE THE RULES, ARE SELLING

02:13:54.593 --> 02:13:57.028
MERCH TO REWRITE THE RULES, AND

02:13:57.095 --> 02:13:58.463
HAS QUITE THE BASE IN A

02:13:58.530 --> 02:13:59.898
FOLLOWING. WHO IS INTERESTED IN

02:13:59.965 --> 02:14:01.366
REWRITING THE RULES TO ALLOW

02:14:01.433 --> 02:14:03.835
THEM TO STAY IN A THIRD TERM?

02:14:03.902 --> 02:14:06.705
THE BILL WOULD SIMPLY ADD THIS

02:14:06.772 --> 02:14:10.008
PENALTY OF PERJURY AND AN EXTRA

02:14:10.075 --> 02:14:12.511
LAYER OF DEFENSE TO PROTECT OUR

02:14:12.577 --> 02:14:14.312
ELECTIONS, WHICH WE FEEL IS

02:14:14.379 --> 02:14:16.448
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT WITH US

02:14:16.515 --> 02:14:18.984
TODAY TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT, AS

02:14:19.050 --> 02:14:21.153
GENESIS GONZALEZ, ALLEGED,

02:14:21.219 --> 02:14:22.954
DIRECTOR OF LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR

02:14:23.021 --> 02:14:25.090
LENNY KOUNALAKIS, WHO WE ALL

02:14:25.157 --> 02:14:28.360
KNOW SERVED AS AMBASSADOR WHEN

02:14:28.427 --> 02:14:29.795
ORBAN CAME TO RISE AND HAS A

02:14:29.861 --> 02:14:32.264
VERY UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON WHY

02:14:32.330 --> 02:14:35.767
DEMOCRACY NEEDS STRENGTHENING.

02:14:35.834 --> 02:14:36.868
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD

02:14:36.935 --> 02:14:39.037
MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I THINK

02:14:39.104 --> 02:14:41.907
SO, THANK YOU, CHAIR AND

02:14:41.973 --> 02:14:43.375
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS GENESIS

02:14:43.442 --> 02:14:44.443
GONZALEZ, LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR

02:14:44.509 --> 02:14:45.844
FOR CALIFORNIA LIEUTENANT

02:14:45.911 --> 02:14:47.746
GOVERNOR ELENI KOUNALAKIS.

02:14:47.813 --> 02:14:49.147
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR IS PROUD TO

02:14:49.214 --> 02:14:51.550
SPONSOR AB 1539 AND WANTS TO

02:14:51.616 --> 02:14:52.551
COMMEND THE AUTHOR FOR

02:14:52.617 --> 02:14:53.852
INTRODUCING THIS MEASURE. THE

02:14:53.919 --> 02:14:55.620
BILL IS DEEPLY PERSONAL TO THE

02:14:55.687 --> 02:14:57.389
LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR. AS U.S.

02:14:57.456 --> 02:14:58.490
AMBASSADOR TO HUNGARY, SHE

02:14:58.557 --> 02:14:59.558
WITNESSED FIRSTHAND THE RISE OF

02:14:59.624 --> 02:15:01.726
VIKTOR ORBAN, A LEADER WHO

02:15:01.793 --> 02:15:03.195
SYSTEMATICALLY DISMANTLED A

02:15:03.261 --> 02:15:04.663
BURGEONING DEMOCRACY BY

02:15:04.729 --> 02:15:06.364
IGNORING CUSTOMS NORMS,

02:15:06.431 --> 02:15:08.533
JUDICIAL ORDERS AND

02:15:08.600 --> 02:15:09.701
CONSTITUTIONAL CONSTRAINTS. SHE

02:15:09.768 --> 02:15:11.102
HAS SEEN THAT SAME PATTERN HERE

02:15:11.169 --> 02:15:13.238
AT HOME. WHEN LEADERS OPENLY

02:15:13.305 --> 02:15:14.339
DISREGARD THE SAFEGUARDS THAT

02:15:14.406 --> 02:15:15.740
PROTECT OUR SYSTEM OF

02:15:15.807 --> 02:15:17.275
GOVERNMENT, DEMOCRACY ITSELF

02:15:17.342 --> 02:15:19.811
BECOMES VULNERABLE. AB 1539

02:15:19.878 --> 02:15:21.146
ADDRESSES THAT VULNERABILITY.

02:15:21.213 --> 02:15:22.948
IT SIMPLY REQUIRES A

02:15:23.014 --> 02:15:24.082
REPRESENTATIVE OF A POLITICAL

02:15:24.149 --> 02:15:26.184
PARTY TO CERTIFY, UNDER PENALTY

02:15:26.251 --> 02:15:27.586
OF PERJURY, THAT THEIR

02:15:27.652 --> 02:15:28.687
PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE

02:15:28.753 --> 02:15:30.522
PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEES MEET THE

02:15:30.589 --> 02:15:31.957
CONSTITUTIONAL ELIGIBILITY

02:15:32.023 --> 02:15:33.058
REQUIREMENTS UNDER THE 22ND

02:15:33.124 --> 02:15:34.826
AMENDMENT OF THE UNITED STATES

02:15:34.893 --> 02:15:36.995
CONSTITUTION. THESE ARE NOT

02:15:37.062 --> 02:15:38.463
ABSTRACT RULES. THEY ARE

02:15:38.530 --> 02:15:39.764
SAFEGUARDS PUT IN PLACE TO

02:15:39.831 --> 02:15:41.633
PROTECT OUR DEMOCRACY FROM THE

02:15:41.700 --> 02:15:42.767
CONCENTRATION OF POWER AND TO

02:15:42.834 --> 02:15:44.569
ENSURE THAT NO ONE, NO MATTER

02:15:44.636 --> 02:15:46.371
HOW POWERFUL, STANDS ABOVE THE

02:15:46.438 --> 02:15:47.839
CONSTITUTION FOR GENERATIONS,

02:15:47.906 --> 02:15:49.241
TERM LIMITS AND ELIGIBILITY

02:15:49.307 --> 02:15:50.242
REQUIREMENTS HAVE PRESERVED THE

02:15:50.308 --> 02:15:51.576
STABILITY AND PEACEFUL TRANSFER

02:15:51.643 --> 02:15:53.545
OF POWER THAT DEFINES AMERICAN

02:15:53.612 --> 02:15:55.046
DEMOCRACY. BUT WHEN THOSE

02:15:55.113 --> 02:15:56.047
BOUNDARIES ARE OPENLY

02:15:56.114 --> 02:15:57.115
QUESTIONED, IT CREATES

02:15:57.182 --> 02:15:58.216
UNCERTAINTY AND ERODES PUBLIC

02:15:58.283 --> 02:16:00.385
TRUST IN THE VERY FOUNDATION OF

02:16:00.452 --> 02:16:04.022
OUR DEMOCRACY. IN AB 1539 DOES

02:16:04.089 --> 02:16:05.624
NOT CHANGE WHO CAN RUN FOR

02:16:05.690 --> 02:16:06.858
OFFICE. IT SIMPLY REINFORCES

02:16:06.925 --> 02:16:08.727
THE RULES WE ALREADY HAVE AND

02:16:08.793 --> 02:16:09.794
ENSURES THE INTEGRITY OF

02:16:09.861 --> 02:16:11.196
CALIFORNIA'S BALLOT. THE

02:16:11.263 --> 02:16:12.564
PEACEFUL SUCCESSION OF POWER

02:16:12.631 --> 02:16:14.533
HAS BEEN A CORNERSTONE OF OUR

02:16:14.599 --> 02:16:17.369
NATIONAL IDENTITY. FOR NEARLY

02:16:17.435 --> 02:16:19.104
250 YEARS. WE CAN NO LONGER

02:16:19.170 --> 02:16:20.572
ASSUME IT WILL BE RESPECTED

02:16:20.639 --> 02:16:22.040
WITHOUT VIGILANCE. THIS BILL IS

02:16:22.107 --> 02:16:23.708
ABOUT DRAWING A FIRM LINE AND

02:16:23.775 --> 02:16:24.843
REAFFIRMING THAT OUR

02:16:24.910 --> 02:16:26.311
CONSTITUTION STILL MATTERS. WE

02:16:26.378 --> 02:16:27.379
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR

02:16:27.445 --> 02:16:29.548
SUPPORT FOR AB 1539. THANK YOU.

02:16:29.614 --> 02:16:31.116
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY.

02:16:31.182 --> 02:16:32.450
WE'LL NOW INVITE ANYONE ELSE

02:16:32.517 --> 02:16:34.252
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR

02:16:34.319 --> 02:16:36.087
AB 1539 TO PLEASE COME FORWARD

02:16:36.154 --> 02:16:37.022
AND STATE YOUR NAME,

02:16:37.088 --> 02:16:38.089
ORGANIZATION OR CITY YOU'RE

02:16:38.156 --> 02:16:39.958
FROM AND POSITION ON THE BILL.

02:16:40.025 --> 02:16:42.093
WE HAVE THE SANTA CRUZ COUNTY

02:16:42.160 --> 02:16:43.728
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN SUPPORT.

02:16:43.795 --> 02:16:45.730
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE

02:16:45.797 --> 02:16:47.165
ANY OTHER SUPPORT WITNESSES FOR

02:16:47.232 --> 02:16:50.335
AB 1539, SEEING NO ONE COME

02:16:50.402 --> 02:16:51.336
FORWARD? ARE THERE ANY

02:16:51.403 --> 02:16:56.908
OPPOSITION WITNESSES TO AB 1539?

02:16:56.975 --> 02:16:58.043
SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD,

02:16:58.109 --> 02:16:59.911
BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS FOR

02:16:59.978 --> 02:17:02.647
ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. OKAY.

02:17:02.714 --> 02:17:03.415
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS

02:17:03.481 --> 02:17:05.083
BILL FORWARD. I HAVE AN EYE

02:17:05.150 --> 02:17:06.084
RECOMMENDATION. I'LL TURN IT

02:17:06.151 --> 02:17:07.185
OVER TO CLOSE. THANK YOU SO

02:17:07.252 --> 02:17:09.054
MUCH. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A

02:17:09.120 --> 02:17:10.155
VOTE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

02:17:10.221 --> 02:17:14.159
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. JUST

02:17:14.225 --> 02:17:15.694
GIVE ME ONE SECOND AS WE

02:17:15.760 --> 02:17:32.811
TRANSITION. I HAVE TO GO

02:17:32.877 --> 02:17:33.979
PRESENT BILLS IN THE CAPITAL.

02:17:34.045 --> 02:17:35.814
SO I'M GOING TO HAND THE GAVEL

02:17:35.880 --> 02:17:37.682
OVER THE VICE CHAIR. AND IT

02:17:37.749 --> 02:17:39.684
LOOKS LIKE NEXT IN FILE ORDER

02:17:39.751 --> 02:17:44.389
IS FOR ITEM 14 AB 1664 BY

02:17:44.456 --> 02:17:53.431
JACKSON. YES. ALL RIGHT.

02:17:53.498 --> 02:17:54.866
WELCOME, ASSEMBLY MEMBER

02:17:54.933 --> 02:18:01.706
JACKSON, YOU HAVE A B. 16641664.

02:18:01.773 --> 02:18:04.576
YOU MAY BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY.

02:18:04.643 --> 02:18:06.645
OKAY. WELL, I THOUGHT I WAS

02:18:06.711 --> 02:18:07.779
GOING TO HAVE PEOPLE TESTIFY,

02:18:07.846 --> 02:18:10.315
BUT THEY MIGHT BE SOMEWHERE

02:18:10.382 --> 02:18:14.319
LOST IN THE HALLWAY. THIS IS AB

02:18:14.386 --> 02:18:15.687
1664, WHICH WOULD REQUIRE A

02:18:15.754 --> 02:18:18.223
LOCAL AGENCY, POLITICAL,

02:18:18.289 --> 02:18:19.324
SUBDIVISION OR ELECTIONS

02:18:19.391 --> 02:18:20.492
OFFICIAL TO PROVIDE NOTICE TO

02:18:20.558 --> 02:18:22.594
THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE

02:18:22.661 --> 02:18:23.995
ATTORNEY GENERAL. NO LATER THAN

02:18:24.062 --> 02:18:25.830
ONE DAY, AFTER BECOMING AWARE

02:18:25.897 --> 02:18:29.034
OF ANY WARRANT, SUBPOENA OR

02:18:29.100 --> 02:18:30.535
ACTIVE LAW ENFORCEMENT

02:18:30.602 --> 02:18:31.970
INVESTIGATION PERTAINING TO ANY

02:18:32.037 --> 02:18:33.738
ELECTION RECORDS OR VOTING

02:18:33.805 --> 02:18:36.608
SYSTEMS UNDER THEIR CUSTODY.

02:18:36.675 --> 02:18:38.777
THANK THE LORD WITH ME TODAY TO

02:18:38.843 --> 02:18:41.279
TESTIFY AS DEPUTY ATTORNEY

02:18:41.346 --> 02:18:44.149
GENERAL TIFFANY BROKAW AND FOR

02:18:44.215 --> 02:18:45.617
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS, DEPUTY

02:18:45.684 --> 02:18:47.786
ATTORNEY GENERAL MALCOLM

02:18:47.852 --> 02:18:51.022
BRAUTIGAM HERE TO TESTIFY. ALL

02:18:51.089 --> 02:18:52.223
RIGHT. WELL, MUCH TO THE RELIEF

02:18:52.290 --> 02:18:54.359
OF THE AUTHOR, YOU ARE HERE. SO

02:18:54.426 --> 02:18:56.461
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. SO IF YOU

02:18:56.528 --> 02:18:58.396
COULD DO THAT AND STICK TO THAT

02:18:58.463 --> 02:18:59.464
TIMELINE, I APPRECIATE IT. WE

02:18:59.531 --> 02:19:01.399
HAVE A LOT OF BILLS TO HEAR

02:19:01.466 --> 02:19:02.534
TODAY. THANK YOU. WE'LL DO. AND

02:19:02.600 --> 02:19:04.402
THANK YOU. NO ONE'S EVER SAID

02:19:04.469 --> 02:19:05.470
THAT. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND

02:19:05.537 --> 02:19:06.538
MEMBERS. TIFFANY BROKAW, DEPUTY

02:19:06.604 --> 02:19:07.572
ATTORNEY GENERAL HERE ON BEHALF

02:19:07.639 --> 02:19:08.740
OF ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB BONTA.

02:19:08.807 --> 02:19:10.575
AND WE'D LIKE TO THANK ASSEMBLY

02:19:10.642 --> 02:19:11.710
MEMBER JACKSON FOR CARRYING

02:19:11.776 --> 02:19:15.113
THIS IMPORTANT BILL. AB 1664 IS

02:19:15.180 --> 02:19:16.581
DESIGNED TO IMPROVE THE TOOLS

02:19:16.648 --> 02:19:17.582
AVAILABLE TO THE ATTORNEY

02:19:17.649 --> 02:19:18.717
GENERAL TO PROMPTLY MITIGATE

02:19:18.783 --> 02:19:20.919
ANY DAMAGE ASSOCIATED WITH

02:19:20.985 --> 02:19:22.320
IMPROPER SEARCH AND SEIZURE OF

02:19:22.387 --> 02:19:24.255
ELECTION MATERIALS. THE THREAT

02:19:24.322 --> 02:19:25.924
OF INTERFERENCE IN CALIFORNIA'S

02:19:25.990 --> 02:19:28.093
ELECTORAL SYSTEM IS INCREASING,

02:19:28.159 --> 02:19:29.160
HEIGHTENING THIS THREAT. LOCAL

02:19:29.227 --> 02:19:30.495
AND FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT

02:19:30.562 --> 02:19:32.097
HAVE SOUGHT TO SEARCH AND SEIZE

02:19:32.163 --> 02:19:34.232
ELECTION MATERIALS NATIONWIDE.

02:19:34.299 --> 02:19:36.868
AB 1664 ADDRESSES THIS THREAT

02:19:36.935 --> 02:19:38.536
BY REQUIRING NOTICE TO THE

02:19:38.603 --> 02:19:39.804
SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE

02:19:39.871 --> 02:19:41.439
ATTORNEY GENERAL WITHIN ONE DAY,

02:19:41.506 --> 02:19:43.942
AFTER LOCAL AGENCY, POLITICAL,

02:19:44.008 --> 02:19:44.976
SUBDIVISION OR ELECTIONS

02:19:45.043 --> 02:19:46.444
OFFICIAL BECOMES AWARE OF ANY

02:19:46.511 --> 02:19:48.246
WARRANT, SUBPOENA OR ACTIVE LAW

02:19:48.313 --> 02:19:50.448
ENFORCEMENT INVESTIGATION

02:19:50.515 --> 02:19:51.816
INVESTIGATION PERTAINING TO ANY

02:19:51.883 --> 02:19:53.651
ELECTIONS OR VOTING SYSTEM

02:19:53.718 --> 02:19:55.453
UNDER THEIR CUSTODY OR CONTROL.

02:19:55.520 --> 02:19:56.921
THIS ENSURES THAT THE STATE CAN

02:19:56.988 --> 02:19:58.723
ACT QUICKLY TO MITIGATE ANY

02:19:58.790 --> 02:19:59.858
DAMAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE

02:19:59.924 --> 02:20:01.593
LAW ENFORCEMENT EFFORTS,

02:20:01.659 --> 02:20:02.994
PROTECT CRITICAL ELECTION

02:20:03.061 --> 02:20:04.362
MATERIALS, AND UPHOLD THE RULE

02:20:04.429 --> 02:20:07.365
OF LAW. AB 1664 ALSO

02:20:07.432 --> 02:20:08.433
ESTABLISHES A NEW CHANNEL FOR

02:20:08.500 --> 02:20:09.434
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL TO

02:20:09.501 --> 02:20:10.902
INTERVENE IN ANY RELATED

02:20:10.969 --> 02:20:12.370
LITIGATION, OR OTHERWISE SEEK

02:20:12.437 --> 02:20:13.805
ANY APPROPRIATE RELIEF BY THE

02:20:13.872 --> 02:20:15.607
COURTS. IT IS IMPERATIVE WE

02:20:15.673 --> 02:20:16.708
CONTINUE EFFORTS TO MAINTAIN

02:20:16.775 --> 02:20:18.510
ELECTION INTEGRITY AND VOTER

02:20:18.576 --> 02:20:19.411
CONFIDENCE, AND FOR THESE

02:20:19.477 --> 02:20:20.512
REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK

02:20:20.578 --> 02:20:22.347
FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU VERY

02:20:22.413 --> 02:20:24.182
MUCH. AND YOU'RE JUST HERE FOR

02:20:24.249 --> 02:20:24.983
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. OKAY,

02:20:25.049 --> 02:20:26.384
GREAT. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN

02:20:26.451 --> 02:20:28.319
THE ROOM WHO WOULD LIKE TO COME

02:20:28.386 --> 02:20:29.387
UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND

02:20:29.454 --> 02:20:31.055
EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT FOR THIS

02:20:31.122 --> 02:20:34.125
BILL? GOOD MORNING, GLENN

02:20:34.192 --> 02:20:35.326
BACCHUS FOR ELLA BAKER CENTER

02:20:35.393 --> 02:20:36.494
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND SUPPORT.

02:20:36.561 --> 02:20:39.030
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND THEN

02:20:39.097 --> 02:20:40.465
ANYBODY WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE A

02:20:40.532 --> 02:20:43.334
PRIMARY WITNESS IN OPPOSITION

02:20:43.401 --> 02:20:46.204
COME UP, HAVE A SEAT. EACH GOT

02:20:46.271 --> 02:20:57.549
TWO MINUTES. WHO WOULD LIKE TO

02:20:57.615 --> 02:21:02.086
GO FIRST? MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS,

02:21:02.153 --> 02:21:03.254
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

02:21:03.321 --> 02:21:04.923
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION IN

02:21:04.989 --> 02:21:07.458
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, THE

02:21:07.525 --> 02:21:08.493
CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION GIVES

02:21:08.560 --> 02:21:09.994
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL

02:21:10.061 --> 02:21:11.095
SUPERVISORIAL SUPERVISORY

02:21:11.162 --> 02:21:12.096
AUTHORITY OVER SHERIFFS AND

02:21:12.163 --> 02:21:13.932
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS, BUT NOT

02:21:13.998 --> 02:21:15.366
SUPERVISORY AUTHORITY OVER THE

02:21:15.433 --> 02:21:16.868
JUDICIARY. AND IF PURSUANT TO

02:21:16.935 --> 02:21:18.236
THIS BILL, THE AG WERE

02:21:18.303 --> 02:21:20.004
EFFECTIVELY ASKING THE COURT TO

02:21:20.071 --> 02:21:21.506
NULLIFY A MAGISTRATE'S

02:21:21.573 --> 02:21:23.341
DISCRETIONARY PROBABLE CAUSE

02:21:23.408 --> 02:21:24.475
DETERMINATION, ABSENT DIRECT

02:21:24.542 --> 02:21:26.144
STATE INTEREST, THE AG WOULD

02:21:26.211 --> 02:21:28.012
WOULD BE EXPANDING SUPERVISORY

02:21:28.079 --> 02:21:30.181
AUTHORITY INTO JUDICIAL REVIEW

02:21:30.248 --> 02:21:31.549
POWER THAT THE CONSTITUTION

02:21:31.616 --> 02:21:33.384
DOES NOT GRANT. I'M A LITTLE

02:21:33.451 --> 02:21:34.752
CONCERNED ABOUT THE USE OF THE

02:21:34.819 --> 02:21:36.287
WORD THREAT THAT WE'RE TALKING

02:21:36.354 --> 02:21:39.691
ABOUT HERE. THIS IS SITUATIONS

02:21:39.757 --> 02:21:42.360
IN WHICH A PEACE OFFICER GOES

02:21:42.427 --> 02:21:44.195
THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS,

02:21:44.262 --> 02:21:46.397
SEEKS A SEARCH WARRANT OR SOME

02:21:46.464 --> 02:21:50.268
OTHER COURT ORDER TO UNDERTAKE

02:21:50.335 --> 02:21:52.437
THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL AND

02:21:52.503 --> 02:21:55.340
STATUTORY INVESTIGATIVE DUTIES.

02:21:55.406 --> 02:21:57.141
THERE'S CASE LAW TO SUPPORT THE

02:21:57.208 --> 02:21:59.110
ANALYSIS REGARDING SEPARATION

02:21:59.177 --> 02:22:01.446
OF POWERS, SPECIFICALLY AS IT

02:22:01.512 --> 02:22:02.780
RELATES TO THE ISSUANCE OF A

02:22:02.847 --> 02:22:03.948
SEARCH WARRANT. AS A JUDICIAL

02:22:04.015 --> 02:22:05.450
ACT OF A MAGISTRATE, PROSECUTOR

02:22:05.516 --> 02:22:07.252
CANNOT BE VESTED WITH AUTHORITY

02:22:07.318 --> 02:22:08.987
TO FORECLOSE THE EXERCISE OF

02:22:09.053 --> 02:22:10.822
JUDICIAL POWER, AND DOING SO

02:22:10.889 --> 02:22:11.890
VIOLATES THE DOCTRINE OF

02:22:11.956 --> 02:22:12.991
SEPARATION OF POWERS SET FORTH

02:22:13.057 --> 02:22:14.092
IN ARTICLE THREE, SECTION ONE

02:22:14.158 --> 02:22:15.860
OF THE CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION,

02:22:15.927 --> 02:22:17.228
AND SIMILARLY, THE ATTORNEY

02:22:17.295 --> 02:22:18.730
GENERAL CANNOT DICTATE TO

02:22:18.796 --> 02:22:20.498
COURTS A LEGAL RESULT WITHOUT

02:22:20.565 --> 02:22:22.300
VIOLATING SEPARATION OF POWERS,

02:22:22.367 --> 02:22:24.369
BECAUSE THIS BILL INTRODUCES

02:22:24.435 --> 02:22:25.904
THE POTENTIAL FOR POLITICAL

02:22:25.970 --> 02:22:27.038
INTERFERENCE INTO A PROCESS

02:22:27.105 --> 02:22:28.773
ALREADY OVERSEEN BY JUDGES AND

02:22:28.840 --> 02:22:30.275
PEACE OFFICERS, AND TO THE

02:22:30.341 --> 02:22:32.410
EXTENT THE BILL INAPPROPRIATELY

02:22:32.477 --> 02:22:34.979
AND LIKELY CONSTITUTIONALLY

02:22:35.046 --> 02:22:35.680
IMPERMISSIBLY, INVITES THE

02:22:35.747 --> 02:22:36.514
ATTORNEY GENERAL TO INTERVENE

02:22:36.581 --> 02:22:38.583
IN A PROCESS IN A MANNER THAT

02:22:38.650 --> 02:22:39.951
RUNS AFOUL OF SEPARATION OF

02:22:40.018 --> 02:22:41.052
POWERS, WE'RE RESPECTFULLY

02:22:41.119 --> 02:22:42.553
OPPOSED TO THE BILL. THANK YOU.

02:22:42.620 --> 02:22:44.689
THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD

02:22:44.756 --> 02:22:45.690
MORNING, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE.

02:22:45.757 --> 02:22:46.891
MY NAME IS JULIA DILLONLIAM,

02:22:46.958 --> 02:22:47.859
LIEUTENANT WITH THE RIVERSIDE

02:22:47.926 --> 02:22:48.793
SHERIFF'S OFFICE. I'D LIKE TO

02:22:48.860 --> 02:22:50.061
ECHO THE CONCERNS OF MY

02:22:50.128 --> 02:22:51.095
COLLEAGUE FROM THE STATE

02:22:51.162 --> 02:22:52.030
SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION, BUT I

02:22:52.096 --> 02:22:53.698
WANTED TO FOCUS ON CRIMINAL

02:22:53.765 --> 02:22:55.500
INVESTIGATIONS, PARTICULARLY AB

02:22:55.566 --> 02:22:56.801
1664 ALLOWS EXECUTIVE BRANCH

02:22:56.868 --> 02:22:58.002
OFFICIALS TO INTERFERE IN

02:22:58.069 --> 02:22:59.671
ACTIVE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS

02:22:59.737 --> 02:23:01.172
AFTER NEUTRAL MAGISTRATE HAS

02:23:01.239 --> 02:23:02.307
ALREADY DETERMINED PROBABLE

02:23:02.373 --> 02:23:03.708
CAUSE AND AUTHORIZED

02:23:03.775 --> 02:23:05.176
INVESTIGATIVE ACTION. THE BILL

02:23:05.243 --> 02:23:06.477
RAISES SIGNIFICANT SEPARATION

02:23:06.544 --> 02:23:08.413
OF POWER CONCERNS AND PROVIDES

02:23:08.479 --> 02:23:10.214
NO SAFEGUARDS FOR

02:23:10.281 --> 02:23:10.915
INVESTIGATIONS INVOLVING

02:23:10.982 --> 02:23:12.750
CONFIDENTIAL INFORMANTS,

02:23:12.817 --> 02:23:14.152
WHISTLEBLOWERS, COOPERATING

02:23:14.218 --> 02:23:15.219
WITNESSES OR OTHER TIME

02:23:15.286 --> 02:23:17.088
SENSITIVE INVESTIGATIVE LEADS.

02:23:17.155 --> 02:23:18.790
EXISTING JUDICIAL OVERSIGHT

02:23:18.856 --> 02:23:20.325
ALREADY PROTECTS ELECTION

02:23:20.391 --> 02:23:21.426
MATERIALS WHILE PRESERVING THE

02:23:21.492 --> 02:23:23.528
INTEGRITY OF CRIMINAL

02:23:23.594 --> 02:23:25.697
INVESTIGATIONS. AS STATED, THE

02:23:25.763 --> 02:23:27.131
BILL CONTAINS NO SAFEGUARDS FOR

02:23:27.198 --> 02:23:28.566
THESE INVESTIGATIVE TECHNIQUES

02:23:28.633 --> 02:23:33.438
THAT WE USE AND DELAYS CREATED

02:23:33.504 --> 02:23:35.039
BY MANDATORY NOTIFICATION

02:23:35.106 --> 02:23:36.841
REQUIREMENTS AND POTENTIAL

02:23:36.908 --> 02:23:37.942
INVESTIGATIONS CAN JEOPARDIZE

02:23:38.009 --> 02:23:40.144
TI¾N TIME SENSITIVE LEADS,

02:23:40.211 --> 02:23:41.212
COMPROMISE INVESTIGATIVE

02:23:41.279 --> 02:23:42.613
STRATEGIES, AND INCREASE THE

02:23:42.680 --> 02:23:44.015
RISK THAT EVIDENCE IS ALTERED,

02:23:44.082 --> 02:23:45.149
DESTROYED, OR OTHERWISE

02:23:45.216 --> 02:23:47.285
RENDERED UNAVAILABLE. EXISTING

02:23:47.352 --> 02:23:48.019
LAW ALREADY PROVIDES

02:23:48.086 --> 02:23:49.120
SUBSTANTIAL PROTECTIONS FOR

02:23:49.187 --> 02:23:51.222
THESE ELECTION MATERIALS, AND

02:23:51.289 --> 02:23:55.226
WE ARE ALREADY STEWARDS OF OF A

02:23:55.293 --> 02:23:56.661
EVIDENCE COLLECTION. THIS IS

02:23:56.728 --> 02:23:58.429
WHAT WE DO ON A DAY TO DAY

02:23:58.496 --> 02:24:00.298
BASIS. WE ARE EXPERTS AT THIS.

02:24:00.365 --> 02:24:01.432
THERE IS THE ALLEGATION THAT WE

02:24:01.499 --> 02:24:04.202
ARE GOING TO ALTER OR CHANGE

02:24:04.268 --> 02:24:07.839
THE ELECTION. VOTES ARE

02:24:07.905 --> 02:24:08.840
UNSUBSTANTIATED BECAUSE THIS IS

02:24:08.906 --> 02:24:10.108
WHAT WE DO ON A DAILY, DAILY

02:24:10.174 --> 02:24:11.843
BASIS. WE PROTECT EVIDENCE AND

02:24:11.909 --> 02:24:13.044
WE PROTECT THE CHAIN OF COMMAND

02:24:13.111 --> 02:24:15.046
OR CHAIN OF CUSTODY RATHER FOR

02:24:15.113 --> 02:24:16.614
EVIDENCE MATERIALS. FOR THESE

02:24:16.681 --> 02:24:17.448
REASONS, THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY

02:24:17.515 --> 02:24:20.051
SHERIFF'S OFFICE RESPECTFULLY

02:24:20.118 --> 02:24:22.587
REQUEST A NO VOTE. THANK YOU.

02:24:22.653 --> 02:24:24.389
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

02:24:24.455 --> 02:24:26.190
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE ANY

02:24:26.257 --> 02:24:29.127
OTHER OPPOSITION TO THIS BILL.

02:24:29.193 --> 02:24:31.562
YOU CAN COME UP, STATE YOUR

02:24:31.629 --> 02:24:33.398
NAME, ORGANIZATION AND THAT YOU

02:24:33.464 --> 02:24:34.832
OPPOSE THE BILL. NOW, WE'RE

02:24:34.899 --> 02:24:36.501
GOING TO BRING IT BACK TO THE

02:24:36.567 --> 02:24:40.238
DAIS FOR MY COLLEAGUES AND ME.

02:24:40.304 --> 02:24:43.808
SO I'M ACUTELY AWARE OF WHAT

02:24:43.875 --> 02:24:47.378
WHAT GENERATED THIS BILL. AND,

02:24:47.445 --> 02:24:49.147
YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS

02:24:49.213 --> 02:24:53.918
THAT THAT OVER OVER TIME BECAME,

02:24:53.985 --> 02:24:56.788
YOU KNOW, WE KIND OF LOST. LOST

02:24:56.854 --> 02:24:58.923
WHAT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED THERE?

02:24:58.990 --> 02:25:00.691
THERE WAS NO ELECTION

02:25:00.758 --> 02:25:01.793
INTERFERENCE GOING TO BE

02:25:01.859 --> 02:25:05.063
HAPPENING. THERE IS A GROUP

02:25:05.129 --> 02:25:07.498
THAT POINTED OUT WHAT THEY

02:25:07.565 --> 02:25:09.033
THOUGHT WAS A DISCRETION IN HOW

02:25:09.100 --> 02:25:11.169
MANY VOTES WERE COUNTED IN THE

02:25:11.235 --> 02:25:13.438
COUNTY VERSUS HOW MUCH HOW MANY

02:25:13.504 --> 02:25:15.873
VOTES WERE COUNTED. THE

02:25:15.940 --> 02:25:18.042
SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE, IT

02:25:18.109 --> 02:25:19.444
WOULD SEEM TO A REASONABLE,

02:25:19.510 --> 02:25:21.179
NORMAL PERSON LIKE ME THAT THE

02:25:21.245 --> 02:25:22.747
WAY TO FIGURE THAT OUT IS TO

02:25:22.814 --> 02:25:24.248
COUNT THE DOGGONE VOTES. AND IF

02:25:24.315 --> 02:25:25.550
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE, THERE'S A

02:25:25.616 --> 02:25:26.417
DIFFERENCE. IF THERE'S NOT,

02:25:26.484 --> 02:25:27.752
THERE'S NOT. AND THE GAME'S

02:25:27.819 --> 02:25:30.621
OVER. THAT INVESTIGATIVE

02:25:30.688 --> 02:25:33.124
AUTHORITY LIES WITH THE LAW

02:25:33.191 --> 02:25:35.993
ENFORCEMENT. AND AS AS WAS

02:25:36.060 --> 02:25:39.263
STATED BY THE OPPONENTS HERE,

02:25:39.330 --> 02:25:40.665
THESE REMEDIES THAT WE'RE

02:25:40.731 --> 02:25:43.534
TRYING TO DRUM UP IN AN EFFORT

02:25:43.601 --> 02:25:46.804
TO CAUSE SOME, YOU KNOW,

02:25:46.871 --> 02:25:48.606
INTERFERE WITH AN INVESTIGATION

02:25:48.673 --> 02:25:49.607
BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW.

02:25:49.674 --> 02:25:53.411
THE ANSWER IS, IS, IS, YOU KNOW,

02:25:53.478 --> 02:25:55.847
KIND OF A WASTE OF THE PUBLIC'S

02:25:55.913 --> 02:25:57.215
TIME. THIS COULD HAVE BEEN

02:25:57.281 --> 02:25:59.550
SOLVED IN A WEEK. AND INSTEAD,

02:25:59.617 --> 02:26:01.185
HERE WE ARE WITH LEGISLATION

02:26:01.252 --> 02:26:02.687
THAT'S GOING TO DO SOMETHING

02:26:02.753 --> 02:26:04.489
THAT MAKES IT EVEN MORE

02:26:04.555 --> 02:26:05.590
DIFFICULT TO FIGURE OUT WHEN

02:26:05.656 --> 02:26:06.991
PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT

02:26:07.058 --> 02:26:08.025
SOMETHING, WHETHER IT'S TRUE OR

02:26:08.092 --> 02:26:09.494
NOT. AND THAT'S NOT JUST

02:26:09.560 --> 02:26:11.662
ELECTIONS. THAT'S ALL SORTS OF

02:26:11.729 --> 02:26:14.132
STUFF. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS

02:26:14.198 --> 02:26:15.299
POINTED OUT ON THE FLOOR THE

02:26:15.366 --> 02:26:17.101
OTHER DAY BY ONE OF MY

02:26:17.168 --> 02:26:19.203
COLLEAGUES THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS

02:26:19.270 --> 02:26:21.339
CONSTITUTED ELECTION

02:26:21.405 --> 02:26:23.341
INTERFERENCE. WELL, NO, BECAUSE

02:26:23.407 --> 02:26:24.809
THE ELECTION ALREADY HAPPENED.

02:26:24.876 --> 02:26:26.444
IT WAS ALREADY CERTIFIED. THE

02:26:26.511 --> 02:26:27.645
PEOPLE THAT WON THE ELECTION

02:26:27.712 --> 02:26:30.414
ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. THERE WAS

02:26:30.481 --> 02:26:33.251
NO INTERFERENCE. IT'S JUST IF

02:26:33.317 --> 02:26:34.652
THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT THE

02:26:34.719 --> 02:26:36.888
BALLOTS AND HOW MANY THERE WERE

02:26:36.954 --> 02:26:38.389
NOT WHO VOTED FOR WHAT, THEY

02:26:38.456 --> 02:26:39.390
WEREN'T COUNTING BALLOTS.

02:26:39.457 --> 02:26:40.491
THEY'RE JUST GOING TO VOTE.

02:26:40.558 --> 02:26:41.893
THEY'RE JUST GOING TO COUNT THE

02:26:41.959 --> 02:26:43.394
OUTSIDE OF THE ENVELOPES. HOW

02:26:43.461 --> 02:26:44.729
MANY BALLOTS THERE WERE. THAT'S

02:26:44.795 --> 02:26:48.332
IT. AND IT WAS TURNED INTO THIS.

02:26:48.399 --> 02:26:53.437
SO ANYWAY, NOT A BIG FAN OF OF

02:26:53.504 --> 02:26:57.775
THIS, THIS PROCESS AND, AND THE

02:26:57.842 --> 02:26:59.544
EFFORTS TO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER

02:26:59.610 --> 02:27:01.679
TO A QUESTION THAT SOME PEOPLE

02:27:01.746 --> 02:27:03.447
HAD OUT IN THE PUBLIC THERE

02:27:03.514 --> 02:27:05.583
DESERVE TO KNOW THE ANSWERS TO

02:27:05.650 --> 02:27:08.519
THE QUESTIONS. AND THAT'S OUR

02:27:08.586 --> 02:27:10.721
JOB. WE GET PAID TO INVESTIGATE

02:27:10.788 --> 02:27:12.823
THINGS, NOT US, BUT THE POLICE

02:27:12.890 --> 02:27:16.794
GET PAID. YOU KNOW, THE

02:27:16.861 --> 02:27:19.330
ATTORNEY GENERAL GETS PAID TO

02:27:19.397 --> 02:27:20.798
INVESTIGATE THINGS, NOT TRY TO

02:27:20.865 --> 02:27:23.634
BLOCK ANSWERS FROM BEING

02:27:23.701 --> 02:27:27.972
DISCOVERED. AND SO WITH THAT, I

02:27:28.039 --> 02:27:29.073
THINK YOU PROBABLY KNOW WHERE

02:27:29.140 --> 02:27:30.808
I'M GOING TO STAND ON YOUR BILL,

02:27:30.875 --> 02:27:33.711
SIR. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CLOSE.

02:27:33.778 --> 02:27:36.247
THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. VICE

02:27:36.314 --> 02:27:38.416
CHAIR. I THINK THAT I THINK AT

02:27:38.482 --> 02:27:40.585
THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALREADY

02:27:40.651 --> 02:27:42.353
KNEW WHAT THE RESULTS WERE

02:27:42.420 --> 02:27:43.788
BECAUSE THE SECRETARY OF STATE

02:27:43.854 --> 02:27:45.590
CONFIRMED THAT THERE WAS NO

02:27:45.656 --> 02:27:47.758
IRREGULARITIES. THE CHIEF

02:27:47.825 --> 02:27:49.260
ELECTIONS OFFICER OF RIVERSIDE

02:27:49.327 --> 02:27:51.729
COUNTY SAID THAT THERE WERE NO

02:27:51.796 --> 02:27:53.564
IRREGULARITIES. IT WAS JUST A

02:27:53.631 --> 02:27:54.232
MISINTERPRETATION FROM AN

02:27:54.298 --> 02:27:56.867
OUTSIDE GROUP OF, OF, OF THE

02:27:56.934 --> 02:28:00.137
DATA THAT THEY SAW. THE COUNTY

02:28:00.204 --> 02:28:01.806
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAD AN

02:28:01.872 --> 02:28:02.940
OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT, AND

02:28:03.007 --> 02:28:04.809
THEY ALSO FOUND THAT THERE WERE

02:28:04.875 --> 02:28:07.011
NO IRREGULARITIES. I THINK AT

02:28:07.078 --> 02:28:09.380
THE END OF THE DAY, THIS BILL

02:28:09.447 --> 02:28:11.148
DOESN'T STOP THINGS FROM

02:28:11.215 --> 02:28:12.984
HAPPENING. WHAT IT DOES IS IT

02:28:13.050 --> 02:28:15.453
MAKES SURE THAT ALL THE

02:28:15.519 --> 02:28:17.688
EVIDENCE IS CONSIDERED BEFORE

02:28:17.755 --> 02:28:19.457
SOMEONE, BEFORE A SHERIFF

02:28:19.523 --> 02:28:21.192
DECIDES TO CONFISCATE BALLOTS,

02:28:21.259 --> 02:28:24.495
TAKE IT OUT OF THE FACILITY IN

02:28:24.562 --> 02:28:25.596
WHICH THEY ARE MEANT TO BE

02:28:25.663 --> 02:28:29.166
PROTECTED IN, AND MAKING SURE

02:28:29.233 --> 02:28:31.369
THAT ALL OF THE RELEVANT

02:28:31.435 --> 02:28:32.570
PARTIES THAT'S MEANT TO SECURE

02:28:32.637 --> 02:28:35.306
OUR DEMOCRACY IS ABLE TO LOOK

02:28:35.373 --> 02:28:38.109
AT WHAT THE EVIDENCE MAY BE SO

02:28:38.175 --> 02:28:41.412
A JUDGE CAN RULE ON IT. AND SO

02:28:41.479 --> 02:28:43.414
IN NO WAY IS THIS MEANT TO STOP

02:28:43.481 --> 02:28:44.649
PEOPLE FROM KNOWING THINGS. I

02:28:44.715 --> 02:28:46.417
THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY,

02:28:46.484 --> 02:28:47.518
THIS HELPS TO ENSURE THAT

02:28:47.585 --> 02:28:48.486
THERE'S ANOTHER CHECK AND

02:28:48.552 --> 02:28:50.755
BALANCE, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH

02:28:50.821 --> 02:28:53.991
THAT THERE MAY BE IN THIS CASE,

02:28:54.058 --> 02:28:57.261
THE SHERIFF IS A POLITICAL, AN

02:28:57.328 --> 02:28:59.096
ELECTED OFFICIAL, AND ALL

02:28:59.163 --> 02:29:00.831
ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE SUBJECT

02:29:00.898 --> 02:29:07.271
TO HUMAN HUMAN THINGS. AND IN

02:29:07.338 --> 02:29:11.742
THIS CASE. THE SHERIFF WENT

02:29:11.809 --> 02:29:13.577
DOWN A RABBIT HOLE. AND WE WANT

02:29:13.644 --> 02:29:15.246
TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS DOESN'T

02:29:15.313 --> 02:29:16.714
HAPPEN AGAIN, OR AT LEAST THAT

02:29:16.781 --> 02:29:17.415
THERE'S ANOTHER CHECK AND

02:29:17.481 --> 02:29:18.849
BALANCE FROM THIS HAPPENING

02:29:18.916 --> 02:29:20.184
AGAIN. SO WITH THAT, AT THE

02:29:20.251 --> 02:29:22.119
APPROPRIATE TIME, I I'LL ASK

02:29:22.186 --> 02:29:23.821
FOR AN AYE VOTE. THANK YOU VERY

02:29:23.888 --> 02:29:25.656
MUCH. OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE NOT

02:29:25.723 --> 02:29:26.824
ESTABLISHED A QUORUM AND WE

02:29:26.891 --> 02:29:28.426
DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER MEMBERS

02:29:28.492 --> 02:29:30.094
HERE. SO. BUT WE ARE GOING TO

02:29:30.161 --> 02:29:32.496
KEEP ROLLING AND AND WE'LL TAKE

02:29:32.563 --> 02:29:34.031
IT UNDER CONSIDERATION WHEN THE

02:29:34.098 --> 02:29:36.967
TIME COMES. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE

02:29:37.034 --> 02:29:38.636
GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME

02:29:38.703 --> 02:29:40.237
JUSTICE HERE. WE HAVE MEMBERS

02:29:40.304 --> 02:29:41.806
THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING HERE FOR

02:29:41.872 --> 02:29:43.341
A LONG TIME. WE'RE TRYING TO DO

02:29:43.407 --> 02:29:45.476
FILE ORDER, BUT ALSO TAKING

02:29:45.543 --> 02:29:47.278
INTO CONSIDERATION THAT SOME

02:29:47.345 --> 02:29:48.379
MEMBERS ARE ON A TIME

02:29:48.446 --> 02:29:49.380
COMMITMENT. THAT'S WHY THEY

02:29:49.447 --> 02:29:50.915
CAME EARLY. MR. DIXON, YOU WERE

02:29:50.981 --> 02:29:52.383
YOU'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG

02:29:52.450 --> 02:29:54.251
TIME. WE'RE GOING TO TAKE HER.

02:29:54.318 --> 02:29:57.521
AND THEN I THINK, MR. GONZALEZ,

02:29:57.588 --> 02:30:03.127
YOU'LL BE NEXT. WHERE'S HER

02:30:03.194 --> 02:30:05.329
BILL? THANK YOU, SENATOR.

02:30:05.396 --> 02:30:08.499
APPRECIATE IT. GOOD MORNING,

02:30:08.566 --> 02:30:10.101
VICE CHAIR AND COLLEAGUES. HANG

02:30:10.167 --> 02:30:11.702
ON, I JUST NEED WHAT IS IT

02:30:11.769 --> 02:30:15.005
AGAIN? ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS AB

02:30:15.072 --> 02:30:18.642
2261. THANK YOU. SORRY. NO

02:30:18.709 --> 02:30:21.512
THAT'S OKAY. AB 2261 IS CORRECT.

02:30:21.579 --> 02:30:22.880
FIRST, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK

02:30:22.947 --> 02:30:24.048
THE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE STAFF

02:30:24.115 --> 02:30:25.783
FOR THEIR HELP IN WORKING TO

02:30:25.850 --> 02:30:26.984
REFINE THE BILL. I AM PLEASED

02:30:27.051 --> 02:30:29.019
TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S

02:30:29.086 --> 02:30:31.956
AMENDMENTS. AB 2261 IS

02:30:32.022 --> 02:30:33.391
STRAIGHTFORWARD BILL THAT

02:30:33.457 --> 02:30:35.493
CLARIFIES AND RESTORES JUDICIAL

02:30:35.559 --> 02:30:37.328
AUTHORITY TO ISSUE CRIMINAL

02:30:37.395 --> 02:30:39.497
PROTECTIVE ORDERS TO A VICTIM'S

02:30:39.563 --> 02:30:41.999
FAMILY AND HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS.

02:30:42.066 --> 02:30:44.935
IN 2018, AS PART OF BROADER

02:30:45.002 --> 02:30:47.037
REFORMS, THIS CODE SECTION WAS

02:30:47.104 --> 02:30:48.506
AMENDED TO LIMIT PROTECTIVE

02:30:48.572 --> 02:30:50.274
ORDERS TO THE VICTIM OF THE

02:30:50.341 --> 02:30:52.076
CRIME, WHICH APPELLATE COURTS

02:30:52.143 --> 02:30:54.979
HAVE SINCE INTERPRETED TO MEAN

02:30:55.045 --> 02:30:57.114
ONLY THE SPECIFIC VICTIM OF THE

02:30:57.181 --> 02:30:58.549
COURT FOR WHICH THE DEFENDANT

02:30:58.616 --> 02:31:02.887
WAS CONVICTED. AB 2261 TODAY

02:31:02.953 --> 02:31:04.321
CORRECTS THIS AND ENSURES

02:31:04.388 --> 02:31:06.490
COURTS CAN ISSUE PROTECTIVE

02:31:06.557 --> 02:31:08.259
ORDERS CONSISTENT WITH VICTIM

02:31:08.325 --> 02:31:10.094
SAFETY AND THE REALITIES OF

02:31:10.161 --> 02:31:12.263
DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, SEXUAL ABUSE

02:31:12.329 --> 02:31:14.498
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING. BY

02:31:14.565 --> 02:31:16.600
CLEARLY DEFINING WHO MAY BE

02:31:16.667 --> 02:31:17.968
PROTECTED AND REQUIRING

02:31:18.035 --> 02:31:20.171
COMPETENT EVIDENCE, THE BILL

02:31:20.237 --> 02:31:21.605
ENSURES DUE PROCESS WHILE

02:31:21.672 --> 02:31:23.374
ALLOWING COURTS TO RESPOND

02:31:23.441 --> 02:31:25.209
APPROPRIATELY TO DEMONSTRATED

02:31:25.276 --> 02:31:28.379
RISK. AB 2261 IS SPONSORED BY

02:31:28.446 --> 02:31:29.513
THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT

02:31:29.580 --> 02:31:31.081
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION AND THE

02:31:31.148 --> 02:31:32.583
SANTA CLARA COUNTY OFFICE OF

02:31:32.650 --> 02:31:34.585
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY. THE BILL

02:31:34.652 --> 02:31:35.986
RECEIVED SUPPORT FROM THE

02:31:36.053 --> 02:31:38.155
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS, THE

02:31:38.222 --> 02:31:39.623
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS

02:31:39.690 --> 02:31:40.691
ASSOCIATION AND LOS ANGELES

02:31:40.758 --> 02:31:42.159
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

02:31:42.226 --> 02:31:43.928
OFFICE. WITH ME TODAY, I HAVE

02:31:43.994 --> 02:31:46.096
IVY B FITZPATRICK FROM THE

02:31:46.163 --> 02:31:47.865
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS

02:31:47.932 --> 02:31:49.700
ASSOCIATION. THANK YOU, THANK

02:31:49.767 --> 02:31:51.769
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING

02:31:51.836 --> 02:31:52.937
HERE TODAY. AND YOU HAVE TWO

02:31:53.003 --> 02:31:56.140
MINUTES. GOOD MORNING AGAIN,

02:31:56.207 --> 02:31:57.208
HONORABLE CHAIR. YOU SEEM TO

02:31:57.274 --> 02:31:58.375
HAVE LOST THE REST OF YOUR

02:31:58.442 --> 02:32:00.511
MEMBERS. IVY FITZPATRICK,

02:32:00.578 --> 02:32:01.912
RIVERSIDE COUNTY CHIEF DEPUTY

02:32:01.979 --> 02:32:03.013
DISTRICT ATTORNEY HERE ON

02:32:03.080 --> 02:32:04.048
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

02:32:04.114 --> 02:32:05.349
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION

02:32:05.416 --> 02:32:06.617
AND THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY DA'S

02:32:06.684 --> 02:32:09.153
OFFICE IN STRONG SUPPORT OF AB

02:32:09.220 --> 02:32:10.588
2261. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE

02:32:10.654 --> 02:32:11.655
COMMITTEE AS WELL FOR THE

02:32:11.722 --> 02:32:13.858
RECENT AMENDMENTS. THREE

02:32:13.924 --> 02:32:15.626
PRIMARY POINTS ABOUT THIS BILL,

02:32:15.693 --> 02:32:18.829
AB 2261, IS RESPONSIVE TO WHAT

02:32:18.896 --> 02:32:20.264
COURTS HAVE SPECIFICALLY HELD.

02:32:20.331 --> 02:32:21.332
ARE THE LIMITATIONS IN THE

02:32:21.398 --> 02:32:24.268
CURRENT LANGUAGE. PRIOR TO 2018

02:32:24.335 --> 02:32:25.703
TRIAL, COURT JUDGES HAD

02:32:25.769 --> 02:32:27.104
DISCRETION TO ISSUE PROTECTIVE

02:32:27.171 --> 02:32:28.939
ORDERS FOR NOT ONLY NAMED

02:32:29.006 --> 02:32:30.374
VICTIMS, BUT THEIR FAMILY AND

02:32:30.441 --> 02:32:32.142
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS. IF THEY

02:32:32.209 --> 02:32:33.310
DETERMINED THAT A PROTECTIVE

02:32:33.377 --> 02:32:35.779
ORDER WAS NECESSARY. IN 2018,

02:32:35.846 --> 02:32:37.581
THAT LANGUAGE WAS UNFORTUNATELY

02:32:37.648 --> 02:32:39.049
NARROWED, WITH NO SUGGESTION IN

02:32:39.116 --> 02:32:40.184
THE LEGISLATIVE RECORD THAT

02:32:40.251 --> 02:32:42.386
THIS WAS INTENTIONAL. IN FACT,

02:32:42.453 --> 02:32:45.256
THE 2018 AMENDMENTS TO 136.2

02:32:45.322 --> 02:32:46.590
WERE OTHERWISE WRITTEN TO

02:32:46.657 --> 02:32:47.458
FURTHER BROADEN THE SCOPE OF

02:32:47.525 --> 02:32:49.460
THE LAW, NOT NARROW IT. RECENT

02:32:49.527 --> 02:32:50.628
COURT DECISIONS HAVE MADE CLEAR

02:32:50.694 --> 02:32:52.363
THAT A LEGISLATIVE FIX IS

02:32:52.429 --> 02:32:53.764
REQUIRED TO RETURN THIS

02:32:53.831 --> 02:32:55.933
DISCRETION BACK TO THE TRIAL

02:32:56.000 --> 02:32:58.435
COURT. AB 2261 IS NARROWLY

02:32:58.502 --> 02:32:59.870
TAILORED, MAKES LIMITED

02:32:59.937 --> 02:33:01.005
MODIFICATIONS TO THE CURRENT

02:33:01.071 --> 02:33:02.540
LAW. IT ONLY APPLIES TO CRIMES

02:33:02.606 --> 02:33:03.908
OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, DOMESTIC

02:33:03.974 --> 02:33:04.975
VIOLENCE, HUMAN TRAFFICKING OR

02:33:05.042 --> 02:33:07.111
GANG RELATED CRIMES. IT ONLY

02:33:07.177 --> 02:33:08.913
APPLIES TO RELATED FAMILY AND

02:33:08.979 --> 02:33:09.980
HOUSEHOLD MEMBERS PARENTS,

02:33:10.047 --> 02:33:12.483
CHILDREN, SIBLINGS, SPOUSES AND

02:33:12.550 --> 02:33:13.517
GRANDPARENTS. AND IT'S NOT A

02:33:13.584 --> 02:33:14.652
MANDATE. RATHER, IT GIVES THE

02:33:14.718 --> 02:33:16.120
DISCRETION BACK TO THE COURT,

02:33:16.186 --> 02:33:18.289
WHO ARE BEST SITUATED TO

02:33:18.355 --> 02:33:19.023
DETERMINE IF THE RISK TO THE

02:33:19.089 --> 02:33:20.624
VICTIM AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS

02:33:20.691 --> 02:33:21.825
ARE THERE SO THEY CAN ISSUE A

02:33:21.892 --> 02:33:24.061
CPO APPROPRIATELY. FINALLY, AND

02:33:24.128 --> 02:33:25.796
MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE BILL IS

02:33:25.863 --> 02:33:27.264
DESIGNED TO ADDRESS THOSE MOST

02:33:27.331 --> 02:33:29.366
AT RISK, WHICH ARE THE MEMBERS

02:33:29.433 --> 02:33:30.434
OF THE VICTIMS FAMILIES. IN

02:33:30.501 --> 02:33:31.602
CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, WHERE A

02:33:31.669 --> 02:33:33.003
JUDGE FINDS THAT THOSE FAMILY

02:33:33.070 --> 02:33:36.240
MEMBERS NEED PROTECTION, NO

02:33:36.307 --> 02:33:37.708
MOTHER SHOULD HAVE TO FEAR FOR

02:33:37.775 --> 02:33:39.143
HER OWN SAFETY WHILE SHE'S

02:33:39.209 --> 02:33:39.944
SUPPORTING A DAUGHTER WHO'S A

02:33:40.010 --> 02:33:42.346
VICTIM OF SEXUAL ASSAULT, NO

02:33:42.413 --> 02:33:43.447
SPOUSE SHOULD HAVE TO WORRY

02:33:43.514 --> 02:33:45.015
THAT THEY WILL BECOME A TARGET

02:33:45.082 --> 02:33:46.717
OF AN ABUSER SIMPLY BECAUSE

02:33:46.784 --> 02:33:48.118
THEY'RE STANDING BY THEIR

02:33:48.185 --> 02:33:49.587
PARTNER AND WITHOUT THE

02:33:49.653 --> 02:33:51.055
PROTECTION PROVIDED IN THIS

02:33:51.121 --> 02:33:52.089
BILL, INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE

02:33:52.156 --> 02:33:53.157
CLOSELY CONNECTED TO OUR

02:33:53.223 --> 02:33:54.959
VICTIMS AND OFTEN EQUALLY

02:33:55.025 --> 02:33:56.060
VULNERABLE AS THE VICTIM

02:33:56.126 --> 02:33:57.828
THEMSELVES, MAY BE LEFT WITHOUT

02:33:57.895 --> 02:34:00.030
A REMEDY DUE TO THE TECHNICAL

02:34:00.097 --> 02:34:01.131
LIMITATIONS IN THE CURRENT

02:34:01.198 --> 02:34:03.701
STATUTE, AB 2261 ENSURES THAT

02:34:03.767 --> 02:34:05.035
COURTS CAN RESPOND TO THE

02:34:05.102 --> 02:34:06.503
REALITIES OF THESE CASES AND

02:34:06.570 --> 02:34:07.638
PROTECT THOSE AT RISK. AND SO

02:34:07.705 --> 02:34:09.239
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR

02:34:09.306 --> 02:34:10.407
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY

02:34:10.474 --> 02:34:13.043
MUCH. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER

02:34:13.110 --> 02:34:16.146
PRINCIPAL WITNESSES? NO. ME TOO.

02:34:16.213 --> 02:34:20.784
COME ON UP. NAME. ORGANIZATION.

02:34:20.851 --> 02:34:21.619
MAX PERRY, ON BEHALF OF THE

02:34:21.685 --> 02:34:22.720
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS

02:34:22.786 --> 02:34:26.991
ASSOCIATION. SUPPORT. MR. CHAIR,

02:34:27.057 --> 02:34:28.192
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

02:34:28.258 --> 02:34:29.159
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION.

02:34:29.226 --> 02:34:30.961
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

02:34:31.028 --> 02:34:32.696
ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. AT THIS

02:34:32.763 --> 02:34:33.831
TIME, WE'LL TAKE UP TO TWO

02:34:33.897 --> 02:34:36.367
PRINCIPAL WITNESSES IN

02:34:36.433 --> 02:34:39.336
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, GOING

02:34:39.403 --> 02:34:41.872
ONCE, TWICE. SOLD. OKAY. COME

02:34:41.939 --> 02:34:46.076
ON UP IF YOU'RE A. ME, TOO.

02:34:46.143 --> 02:34:47.878
JUST EXPRESS YOUR OPPOSITION TO

02:34:47.945 --> 02:34:50.447
THE BILL. YOU MAY. AUBREY

02:34:50.514 --> 02:34:51.982
RODRIGUEZ WITH ACLU, CAL ACTION

02:34:52.049 --> 02:34:55.119
AND OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.

02:34:55.185 --> 02:34:56.887
SOPHIA NEWHOUSE BROWN, LOS

02:34:56.954 --> 02:34:57.988
ANGELES COUNTY PUBLIC

02:34:58.055 --> 02:34:59.790
DEFENDER'S UNION LOCAL 148 IN

02:34:59.857 --> 02:35:02.326
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. ANYBODY

02:35:02.393 --> 02:35:03.394
ELSE? IF NOT, I'LL BRING IT

02:35:03.460 --> 02:35:05.162
BACK TO THE DAIS FOR QUESTIONS.

02:35:05.229 --> 02:35:09.867
COMMENTS? OKAY. WELL, I

02:35:09.933 --> 02:35:11.802
APPRECIATE YOUR BILL. WE'RE

02:35:11.869 --> 02:35:13.103
TALKING ABOUT PROTECTIVE ORDERS

02:35:13.170 --> 02:35:14.905
HERE. YES. WHICH MEANS WE'RE

02:35:14.972 --> 02:35:16.740
TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE WHEN

02:35:16.807 --> 02:35:18.142
THEY ARE IN DANGER. AND THE

02:35:18.208 --> 02:35:20.277
JUDGE IS THERE TO DECIDE THAT.

02:35:20.344 --> 02:35:22.179
I THINK YOU'RE CLOSING A BIT OF

02:35:22.246 --> 02:35:23.914
A LOOPHOLE HERE THAT PEOPLE ARE

02:35:23.981 --> 02:35:25.816
THAT THEY I HOPE THEY DIDN'T

02:35:25.883 --> 02:35:28.218
MEAN TO LEAVE OUT. BUT WITH

02:35:28.285 --> 02:35:30.354
THAT, YOU MAY CLOSE. THANK YOU,

02:35:30.421 --> 02:35:31.755
MR. CHAIR. I RESPECTFULLY ASK

02:35:31.822 --> 02:35:33.457
THE COMMITTEE AS I VOTE. THANK

02:35:33.524 --> 02:35:34.792
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND

02:35:34.858 --> 02:35:36.860
AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, WE'LL

02:35:36.927 --> 02:35:39.396
ESTABLISH A QUORUM AND WE'LL GO

02:35:39.463 --> 02:35:40.664
AND VOTE ON THESE THINGS. SO AT

02:35:40.731 --> 02:35:44.401
THIS TIME, THE NEXT STEP, WE

02:35:44.468 --> 02:35:50.207
HAVE 1607. WE HAVE A B 1607 BY

02:35:50.274 --> 02:35:51.709
ASSEMBLY MEMBER GONZALEZ. YOU

02:35:51.775 --> 02:35:52.876
MAY BEGIN WHEN YOU'RE READY.

02:35:52.943 --> 02:35:54.645
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I KNOW

02:35:54.712 --> 02:35:55.846
MR. COHEN HAS BEEN WAITING, SO

02:35:55.913 --> 02:35:56.980
I'LL READ THIS QUICKLY. CHAIR

02:35:57.047 --> 02:35:58.649
MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THE

02:35:58.716 --> 02:35:59.650
OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY.

02:35:59.717 --> 02:36:00.651
UNDER FEDERAL LAW, EVERY

02:36:00.718 --> 02:36:01.719
PATIENT THAT WALKS THROUGH THE

02:36:01.785 --> 02:36:02.820
DOORS. AN EMERGENCY ROOM MUST

02:36:02.886 --> 02:36:03.887
BE TREATED REGARDLESS OF

02:36:03.954 --> 02:36:05.656
ABILITY TO PAY. OVER THE PAST

02:36:05.723 --> 02:36:06.256
DECADE, EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS

02:36:06.323 --> 02:36:07.057
ACROSS CALIFORNIA HAVE RECEIVED

02:36:07.124 --> 02:36:07.958
ALMOST 15 MILLION VISITS

02:36:08.025 --> 02:36:09.626
ANNUALLY. APPROXIMATELY 1 IN 5

02:36:09.693 --> 02:36:10.627
OF THOSE PATIENTS WERE

02:36:10.694 --> 02:36:11.662
UNINSURED. WITHOUT THIS SUPPORT,

02:36:11.729 --> 02:36:12.696
HOSPITALS WILL BE FORCED TO

02:36:12.763 --> 02:36:13.731
STRETCH CARE WITHIN THEIR

02:36:13.797 --> 02:36:14.698
ALREADY DWINDLING NUMBERS OF

02:36:14.765 --> 02:36:15.766
PHYSICIANS, WHICH MEANS LONGER

02:36:15.833 --> 02:36:16.867
WAITING TIMES AND GREATER COST

02:36:16.934 --> 02:36:18.268
OF CARE. MILLIONS OF

02:36:18.335 --> 02:36:20.037
CALIFORNIANS DEPEND ON THIS. ÁP

02:36:20.104 --> 02:36:21.238
1607. SIMPLY ASK FOR MORE TIME.

02:36:21.305 --> 02:36:23.140
MORE TIME FOR THE MØT MÁS FUND

02:36:23.207 --> 02:36:24.241
TO EXIST, AND ALLOWS THE

02:36:24.308 --> 02:36:25.375
TIMELINE FOR EMERGENCY MEDICINE

02:36:25.442 --> 02:36:26.877
TO CONTINUE. BECAUSE SOMEONE.

02:36:26.944 --> 02:36:27.878
BECAUSE WHEN SOMEONE DIES,

02:36:27.945 --> 02:36:28.946
SOMEONE. THE LAST THING ON

02:36:29.012 --> 02:36:30.314
ANYONE'S MIND SHOULD BE WHETHER

02:36:30.380 --> 02:36:31.448
THE SYSTEM CAN AFFORD TO SAVE

02:36:31.515 --> 02:36:32.916
THEIR LIFE. THIS MORNING,

02:36:32.983 --> 02:36:34.384
PRIMARY WITNESSES IN SUPPORT TO

02:36:34.451 --> 02:36:35.486
HIGHLIGHT THE IMPACT OF THIS

02:36:35.552 --> 02:36:37.387
BILL IS TIM MADDEN ON BEHALF OF

02:36:37.454 --> 02:36:38.388
THE CALIFORNIA COLLEGE OF

02:36:38.455 --> 02:36:39.389
EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS AND JOHN

02:36:39.456 --> 02:36:40.290
POLAND, REGIONAL EXECUTIVE

02:36:40.357 --> 02:36:40.991
DIRECTOR OF SIERRA SACRAMENTO

02:36:41.058 --> 02:36:43.026
VALLEY, MD AGENCY. TAKE IT AWAY.

02:36:43.093 --> 02:36:44.461
AWESOME. THANK YOU. EACH

02:36:44.528 --> 02:36:46.263
GENTLEMAN OR EACH OF YOU HAVE

02:36:46.330 --> 02:36:47.364
TWO MINUTES, PLEASE. THANK YOU,

02:36:47.431 --> 02:36:48.766
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. TIM MADDEN,

02:36:48.832 --> 02:36:49.666
REPRESENTING THE CALIFORNIA

02:36:49.733 --> 02:36:50.701
CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN COLLEGE

02:36:50.768 --> 02:36:51.935
OF EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS, WERE

02:36:52.002 --> 02:36:54.138
ONE OF THE CO-SPONSORS OF AB

02:36:54.204 --> 02:36:56.673
1607. SINCE 1987, THE STATE HAS

02:36:56.740 --> 02:36:57.741
AUTHORIZED COUNTIES TO

02:36:57.808 --> 02:36:59.209
ESTABLISH THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL

02:36:59.276 --> 02:37:01.311
SERVICES FUND. THIS IS THE SOLE

02:37:01.378 --> 02:37:02.412
SOURCE OF REIMBURSEMENT FOR

02:37:02.479 --> 02:37:03.514
EMERGENCY PHYSICIANS TREATING

02:37:03.580 --> 02:37:05.282
UNINSURED PATIENTS, AS WELL AS

02:37:05.349 --> 02:37:06.884
PROVIDING FUNDING FOR HOSPITALS

02:37:06.950 --> 02:37:09.620
AND LOCAL EMS AGENCIES. THE

02:37:09.686 --> 02:37:11.421
FUNDS RESULT IN MORE PHYSICIANS

02:37:11.488 --> 02:37:12.923
WORKING IN THE EMERGENCY

02:37:12.990 --> 02:37:15.359
DEPARTMENT. WITHOUT AB 1607,

02:37:15.425 --> 02:37:16.860
LESS MONEY MEANS EVERY PATIENT

02:37:16.927 --> 02:37:18.996
WALKING IN WAITS TO SEE FEWER

02:37:19.062 --> 02:37:20.464
DOCTORS THAT ARE WORKING. IF

02:37:20.531 --> 02:37:21.899
THIS BILL DOES NOT PASS, WAIT

02:37:21.965 --> 02:37:23.367
TIMES WILL INCREASE AND PATIENT

02:37:23.433 --> 02:37:25.102
OUTCOMES WILL WORSEN. THE

02:37:25.169 --> 02:37:26.570
ALREADY FRAGILE EMERGENCY CARE

02:37:26.637 --> 02:37:27.604
SYSTEM HAS NO FINANCIAL

02:37:27.671 --> 02:37:29.807
BANDWIDTH TO ABSORB THIS CUT.

02:37:29.873 --> 02:37:30.908
MEDI-CAL REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE

02:37:30.974 --> 02:37:32.709
MOST COMPLEX AND ACUTE PATIENT

02:37:32.776 --> 02:37:35.913
IS ONLY $108. THE FUND

02:37:35.979 --> 02:37:36.980
REIMBURSES EVEN LESS FOR

02:37:37.047 --> 02:37:38.482
PATIENTS WITH NO INSURANCE.

02:37:38.549 --> 02:37:41.351
THIS CANNOT BE SUSTAINED. IF AB

02:37:41.418 --> 02:37:43.053
1607 IS NOT PASSED, IT WILL BE

02:37:43.120 --> 02:37:44.188
ANOTHER CUT TO THE ALREADY

02:37:44.254 --> 02:37:45.222
FRAGILE FUNDING FOR EMERGENCY

02:37:45.289 --> 02:37:47.124
CARE SAFETY NET FOR ALL

02:37:47.191 --> 02:37:48.158
CALIFORNIANS. FOR THESE REASONS,

02:37:48.225 --> 02:37:49.560
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR

02:37:49.626 --> 02:37:51.895
VOTE. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER.

02:37:51.962 --> 02:37:54.097
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. HELLO,

02:37:54.164 --> 02:37:55.365
MR. CHAIR MEMBERS. MY NAME IS

02:37:55.432 --> 02:37:56.800
JOHN PULLEN, CALIFORNIA

02:37:56.867 --> 02:37:58.101
LICENSED PARAMEDIC AND DIRECTOR

02:37:58.168 --> 02:38:00.003
OF THE SIERRA SACRAMENTO VALLEY

02:38:00.070 --> 02:38:02.105
EMS AGENCY. I'M HERE ON BEHALF

02:38:02.172 --> 02:38:03.240
OF THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL

02:38:03.307 --> 02:38:04.741
SERVICES ADMINISTRATORS

02:38:04.808 --> 02:38:06.176
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA,

02:38:06.243 --> 02:38:07.945
REPRESENTING ALL 34 LOCAL EMS

02:38:08.011 --> 02:38:10.480
AGENCIES SERVING 58 CALIFORNIA

02:38:10.547 --> 02:38:11.882
COUNTIES. WE APPRECIATE

02:38:11.949 --> 02:38:12.683
ASSEMBLYMEMBER GONZALEZ FOR HIS

02:38:12.749 --> 02:38:14.418
WORK ON THIS IMPORTANT BILL.

02:38:14.484 --> 02:38:15.886
THE LEGISLATURE PREVIOUSLY

02:38:15.953 --> 02:38:17.654
DETERMINED THAT EMS PROVIDERS,

02:38:17.721 --> 02:38:19.122
PHYSICIANS, SURGEONS, AND

02:38:19.189 --> 02:38:20.157
HOSPITALS AS PART OF A

02:38:20.224 --> 02:38:21.258
REQUIREMENT TO PROVIDE

02:38:21.325 --> 02:38:22.726
EMERGENCY MEDICAL CARE TO ALL

02:38:22.793 --> 02:38:24.161
PATIENTS, REGARDLESS OF THEIR

02:38:24.228 --> 02:38:26.296
ABILITY TO PAY FOR HIGHER COSTS

02:38:26.363 --> 02:38:27.798
FOR THESE SERVICES, BUT OFTEN

02:38:27.865 --> 02:38:29.233
RECEIVE PARTIAL OR NO PAYMENT

02:38:29.299 --> 02:38:31.435
FROM PATIENTS. AS A RESULT, A

02:38:31.501 --> 02:38:32.469
SERIES OF LAWS WERE ENACTED TO

02:38:32.536 --> 02:38:33.871
PROVIDE COMPENSATION FOR

02:38:33.937 --> 02:38:35.305
PATIENTS WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO

02:38:35.372 --> 02:38:37.140
PAY FOR THEIR MEDICAL CARE.

02:38:37.207 --> 02:38:38.208
CALIFORNIA LAW AUTHORIZES

02:38:38.275 --> 02:38:39.977
COUNTIES TO ESTABLISH A EMS

02:38:40.043 --> 02:38:42.212
FUND TO REIMBURSE PHYSICIANS,

02:38:42.279 --> 02:38:43.614
SURGEONS AND HOSPITALS FOR THE

02:38:43.680 --> 02:38:45.415
COST OF UNCOMPENSATED EMERGENCY

02:38:45.482 --> 02:38:46.884
CARE AND TO SUPPORT OTHER

02:38:46.950 --> 02:38:48.685
ESSENTIAL EMS FUNCTIONS. IT

02:38:48.752 --> 02:38:50.087
ALSO AUTHORIZES COUNTIES TO

02:38:50.153 --> 02:38:52.189
ESTABLISH A FUND AS PART OF

02:38:52.256 --> 02:38:54.424
THEIR EMS FUND TO IMPROVE

02:38:54.491 --> 02:38:55.492
PEDIATRIC TRAUMA AND EMERGENCY

02:38:55.559 --> 02:38:57.628
MEDICAL SERVICES IN THE COUNTY.

02:38:57.694 --> 02:39:00.197
THE EMS FUND AND FUND ARE

02:39:00.264 --> 02:39:01.598
FINANCED THROUGH REVENUES

02:39:01.665 --> 02:39:03.066
GENERATED FROM ASSESSMENTS ON

02:39:03.133 --> 02:39:04.134
FINES AND FORFEITURES FOR

02:39:04.201 --> 02:39:05.502
CRIMINAL OFFENSES AND MOTOR

02:39:05.569 --> 02:39:07.371
VEHICLE VIOLATIONS. THE

02:39:07.437 --> 02:39:08.805
ORIGINAL AUTHORIZATION FOR THE

02:39:08.872 --> 02:39:10.207
FUND ASSESSMENT WAS LAST

02:39:10.274 --> 02:39:12.776
EXTENDED THROUGH JANUARY 1ST OF

02:39:12.843 --> 02:39:14.544
2027. EMS IS AN ESSENTIAL

02:39:14.611 --> 02:39:15.479
COMPONENT OF CALIFORNIA'S

02:39:15.545 --> 02:39:17.080
HEALTH CARE SAFETY NET. THE

02:39:17.147 --> 02:39:18.115
LOSS OF THIS FUNDING WILL

02:39:18.181 --> 02:39:19.583
NEGATIVELY IMPACT THE ABILITY

02:39:19.650 --> 02:39:21.418
OF PRE-HOSPITAL AND HOSPITAL

02:39:21.485 --> 02:39:22.853
PROVIDERS TO DELIVER THE LEVEL

02:39:22.920 --> 02:39:24.955
OF EMS CARE THAT ALL

02:39:25.022 --> 02:39:26.790
CALIFORNIANS EXPECT AND DESERVE.

02:39:26.857 --> 02:39:28.425
AT A TIME WHEN EMS PROVIDERS

02:39:28.492 --> 02:39:29.726
ARE BEING FORCED TO REDUCE OR

02:39:29.793 --> 02:39:31.128
CEASE PROVIDING CRITICAL

02:39:31.194 --> 02:39:32.896
EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES, AND

02:39:32.963 --> 02:39:34.131
HOSPITALS ARE AT INCREASED RISK

02:39:34.197 --> 02:39:36.133
OF CLOSING, IT IS VITAL THAT

02:39:36.199 --> 02:39:37.935
CURRENT EMS FUNDING SOURCES BE

02:39:38.001 --> 02:39:39.403
MAINTAINED. AS SUCH, I

02:39:39.469 --> 02:39:40.404
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR

02:39:40.470 --> 02:39:42.639
SUPPORT OF AB 1607. THANK YOU.

02:39:42.706 --> 02:39:43.874
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY AT

02:39:43.941 --> 02:39:45.542
THIS TIME. ANYBODY WHO WISHES

02:39:45.609 --> 02:39:46.977
TO EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT FOR

02:39:47.044 --> 02:39:49.012
THE BILL MAY COME UP TO THE

02:39:49.079 --> 02:39:51.648
MICROPHONE AND DO SO. NAME,

02:39:51.715 --> 02:39:52.716
ORGANIZATION AND YOUR SUPPORT.

02:39:52.783 --> 02:39:54.151
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON.

02:39:54.217 --> 02:39:55.986
OLIVIA HERRERA, INTERN AT STONE

02:39:56.053 --> 02:39:57.454
ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF THE

02:39:57.521 --> 02:39:58.855
CALIFORNIA CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL

02:39:58.922 --> 02:40:00.190
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK

02:40:00.257 --> 02:40:04.227
YOU. JOSH GALLAGHER, ON BEHALF

02:40:04.294 --> 02:40:05.696
OF THE BOARDS OF SUPERVISORS OF

02:40:05.762 --> 02:40:08.165
THE COUNTIES OF SANTA CLARA,

02:40:08.231 --> 02:40:09.666
RIVERSIDE AND VENTURA IN

02:40:09.733 --> 02:40:13.370
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING. FRANCO.

02:40:13.437 --> 02:40:14.371
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE

02:40:14.438 --> 02:40:15.706
CALIFORNIA FIRE CHIEFS

02:40:15.772 --> 02:40:16.807
ASSOCIATION AND THE FIRE

02:40:16.873 --> 02:40:17.941
DISTRICTS ASSOCIATION OF

02:40:18.008 --> 02:40:21.178
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. CLIFTON

02:40:21.244 --> 02:40:22.012
WILSON, ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD

02:40:22.079 --> 02:40:23.780
OF SUPERVISORS FOR THE COUNTIES

02:40:23.847 --> 02:40:24.915
OF NAPA AND KERN, BOTH IN

02:40:24.982 --> 02:40:28.352
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. CHLOE KING

02:40:28.418 --> 02:40:29.519
WITH POLITICAL SOLUTIONS ON

02:40:29.586 --> 02:40:30.854
BEHALF OF THREE CLIENTS, THE

02:40:30.921 --> 02:40:32.122
COUNTY OF SAN MATEO, THE

02:40:32.189 --> 02:40:33.724
CHILDREN'S SPECIALTY CARE

02:40:33.790 --> 02:40:34.825
COALITION AND THE AMERICAN

02:40:34.891 --> 02:40:36.293
ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS. IN

02:40:36.360 --> 02:40:40.263
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD

02:40:40.330 --> 02:40:41.298
MORNING. BETSY ARMSTRONG ON

02:40:41.365 --> 02:40:42.399
BEHALF OF THE COUNTY HEALTH

02:40:42.466 --> 02:40:43.834
EXECUTIVES ASSOCIATION,

02:40:43.900 --> 02:40:44.534
REPRESENTING LOCAL HEALTH

02:40:44.601 --> 02:40:46.103
DEPARTMENTS AND URGE YOUR

02:40:46.169 --> 02:40:50.340
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. CAT OF THE

02:40:50.407 --> 02:40:51.775
HEALTH OFFICERS ASSOCIATION OF

02:40:51.842 --> 02:40:55.412
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. JOHN

02:40:55.479 --> 02:40:56.213
MCHALE ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD

02:40:56.279 --> 02:40:57.981
OF SUPERVISORS OF YOLO COUNTY

02:40:58.048 --> 02:40:59.082
AND CONTRA COSTA COUNTY, HERE

02:40:59.149 --> 02:41:02.886
IN SUPPORT. JONATHAN CLAY ON

02:41:02.953 --> 02:41:04.287
BEHALF OF THE COUNTY OF SAN

02:41:04.354 --> 02:41:07.958
DIEGO IN SUPPORT. DANIEL

02:41:08.025 --> 02:41:08.692
BRADLEY ON BEHALF OF THE

02:41:08.759 --> 02:41:10.127
CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF

02:41:10.193 --> 02:41:14.064
COUNTIES AND SUPPORT. KEVIN

02:41:14.131 --> 02:41:14.931
GUZMAN WITH THE CALIFORNIA

02:41:14.998 --> 02:41:18.402
MEDICAL ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT.

02:41:18.468 --> 02:41:20.470
MR. CHAIR, ON BEHALF OF THE

02:41:20.537 --> 02:41:21.304
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS

02:41:21.371 --> 02:41:24.174
ASSOCIATION IN. SUPPORT,

02:41:24.241 --> 02:41:25.609
VANESSA FLORES ON BEHALF OF

02:41:25.675 --> 02:41:29.179
ALAMEDA COUNTY IN SUPPORT. OKAY.

02:41:29.246 --> 02:41:30.847
AT THIS TIME, I'LL TAKE UP TO

02:41:30.914 --> 02:41:33.517
TWO PRINCIPAL WITNESSES IN

02:41:33.583 --> 02:41:35.719
OPPOSITION. YOU MAY. MY

02:41:35.786 --> 02:41:36.753
COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE VERY

02:41:36.820 --> 02:41:37.821
BRIEF. ERIC HENDERSON, ON

02:41:37.888 --> 02:41:39.456
BEHALF OF THE ELLA BAKER CENTER

02:41:39.523 --> 02:41:41.391
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND RESPECTFUL

02:41:41.458 --> 02:41:42.492
OPPOSITION, I WANT TO START

02:41:42.559 --> 02:41:43.560
WITH APPRECIATION FOR ASSEMBLY

02:41:43.627 --> 02:41:45.829
MEMBER GONZALEZ, FOR YOUR WORK,

02:41:45.896 --> 02:41:47.197
AND ALSO FOR YOUR STAFF FOR

02:41:47.264 --> 02:41:48.632
MEETING WITH US. AND I KNOW

02:41:48.698 --> 02:41:50.067
THAT YOU UNDERSTAND OUR

02:41:50.133 --> 02:41:52.969
CONCERNS WITH THE FEE. AND

02:41:53.036 --> 02:41:54.771
SECONDLY, WE ALSO FULLY SUPPORT

02:41:54.838 --> 02:41:56.540
ACCESS TO EMERGENCY MEDICAL

02:41:56.606 --> 02:41:57.941
SERVICES. UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN

02:41:58.008 --> 02:41:59.643
WE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE

02:41:59.709 --> 02:42:01.945
MOST LIKELY TO USE THE EMS FUND,

02:42:02.012 --> 02:42:03.046
PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD THEIR

02:42:03.113 --> 02:42:04.047
MEDICAL CARE, WE'RE ALSO

02:42:04.114 --> 02:42:05.582
TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE

02:42:05.649 --> 02:42:07.084
ASSESSED THIS CRIMINAL FEE. SO

02:42:07.150 --> 02:42:08.385
WE JUST REALLY WANT TO

02:42:08.452 --> 02:42:09.386
ENCOURAGE THE LEGISLATURE TO

02:42:09.453 --> 02:42:10.554
FIND A MORE STABLE SOURCE OF

02:42:10.620 --> 02:42:13.090
FUNDING FOR THIS. SO GIVEN THE

02:42:13.156 --> 02:42:14.891
RECENT COP DECISION FROM THE

02:42:14.958 --> 02:42:16.726
CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT, THIS

02:42:16.793 --> 02:42:17.828
FUND IS GOING TO DWINDLE AND

02:42:17.894 --> 02:42:19.529
THERE WILL NEED TO BE A MORE

02:42:19.596 --> 02:42:20.831
LONG TERM, DURABLE SOLUTION.

02:42:20.897 --> 02:42:23.467
AND WITH THAT, WE RESPECTFULLY

02:42:23.533 --> 02:42:25.735
OPPOSE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR

02:42:25.802 --> 02:42:28.972
TIME. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER

02:42:29.039 --> 02:42:31.875
PRINCIPAL WITNESSES? NO. IF YOU

02:42:31.942 --> 02:42:33.543
JUST WISH TO EXPRESS YOUR

02:42:33.610 --> 02:42:36.913
CONCERN, COME ON UP AND TAKE

02:42:36.980 --> 02:42:39.616
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. ECHOING

02:42:39.683 --> 02:42:41.251
MY COLLEAGUE'S COMMENTS HERE,

02:42:41.318 --> 02:42:42.419
LIZ GUTIERREZ HERE ON BEHALF OF

02:42:42.486 --> 02:42:44.087
DEBT FREE JUSTICE CALIFORNIA

02:42:44.154 --> 02:42:45.522
AND OPPOSE UNLESS AMENDED

02:42:45.589 --> 02:42:49.126
POSITION. THANK YOU. IVY

02:42:49.192 --> 02:42:50.560
RODRIGUEZ WITH ACLU CAL ACTION

02:42:50.627 --> 02:42:53.063
AND STRONG OPPOSITION. OKAY.

02:42:53.130 --> 02:42:54.898
ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME I'LL

02:42:54.965 --> 02:42:57.467
BRING IT BACK. OH, NO. OKAY. I

02:42:57.534 --> 02:43:01.004
AM THE ONLY PERSON AGAIN, SO

02:43:01.071 --> 02:43:02.405
I'LL BE SUPPORTING YOUR BILL

02:43:02.472 --> 02:43:04.941
TODAY. WE DO NEED TO CONTINUE

02:43:05.008 --> 02:43:08.912
TO FIND THESE TYPES OF WAYS TO

02:43:08.979 --> 02:43:12.516
HOLD PEOPLE THAT ARE. INVOLVED

02:43:12.582 --> 02:43:14.684
IN THE SYSTEM, THAT SOME ARE IN

02:43:14.751 --> 02:43:15.852
LARGE PART, CREATING SOME OF

02:43:15.919 --> 02:43:19.022
THE PROBLEMS FINANCIALLY

02:43:19.089 --> 02:43:20.490
ACCOUNTABLE. AND THIS IS WHILE

02:43:20.557 --> 02:43:23.360
IT'S NOT THAT MUCH, IT CAN ADD

02:43:23.426 --> 02:43:27.597
UP. AND, AND THEREFORE, I THINK

02:43:27.664 --> 02:43:30.867
I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO HELP

02:43:30.934 --> 02:43:32.669
LET PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IN IT.

02:43:32.736 --> 02:43:35.172
AND IF THEY CAN'T, THEY WON'T.

02:43:35.238 --> 02:43:37.073
THAT'S WHAT IT BOILS DOWN TO.

02:43:37.140 --> 02:43:38.175
YOU CAN'T SQUEEZE BLOOD OUT OF

02:43:38.241 --> 02:43:40.944
A TURNIP, SO THERE WILL BE NO

02:43:41.011 --> 02:43:42.379
PAYMENT IF THEY CAN'T AFFORD IT.

02:43:42.445 --> 02:43:44.581
SO ANYWAY, THAT I'LL LET YOU

02:43:44.648 --> 02:43:46.149
CLOSE. I'LL TAKE THAT AS THE

02:43:46.216 --> 02:43:47.617
CLOSE. SO WITH THAT, MR. CHAIR,

02:43:47.684 --> 02:43:49.152
I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A VOTE.

02:43:49.219 --> 02:43:50.353
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

02:43:50.420 --> 02:43:52.222
AND LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE GET

02:43:52.289 --> 02:43:53.423
ENOUGH PEOPLE UP HERE, WE'LL GO

02:43:53.490 --> 02:43:55.258
AHEAD AND VOTE AT THIS TIME.

02:43:55.325 --> 02:43:56.259
MISS PELLERIN, YOU'VE BEEN

02:43:56.326 --> 02:43:58.728
WAITING FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S

02:43:58.795 --> 02:44:00.730
NOT IN ORDER OF. YOU KNOW WHAT?

02:44:00.797 --> 02:44:02.566
WE'VE BEEN MIXING IT UP BECAUSE

02:44:02.632 --> 02:44:03.900
THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT HAVE

02:44:03.967 --> 02:44:08.305
COME IN A LONG TIME AGO AND.

02:44:08.371 --> 02:44:09.506
ALL RIGHT, WELL, WE WON'T HEAR

02:44:09.573 --> 02:44:14.077
YOUR BILL THEN. SORRY. JUST

02:44:14.144 --> 02:44:15.512
TAKE IT. I'VE GOT MY WITNESSES

02:44:15.579 --> 02:44:17.280
WAITING AND APPRECIATE IT.

02:44:17.347 --> 02:44:21.618
THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO GOOD

02:44:21.685 --> 02:44:24.120
MORNING, CHAIR AND CHAIR AND

02:44:24.187 --> 02:44:26.289
MEMBER. YOU'RE ONE AND THE SAME.

02:44:26.356 --> 02:44:28.858
I APPROACH THIS BILL FIRST. I'M

02:44:28.925 --> 02:44:31.194
PRESENTING A B 1902. I APPROACH

02:44:31.261 --> 02:44:32.996
THIS BILL FIRST AND FOREMOST AS

02:44:33.063 --> 02:44:35.332
A MOTHER AND AS A MEMBER OF THE

02:44:35.398 --> 02:44:39.302
SANTA CRUZ COMMUNITY. IN 2015,

02:44:39.369 --> 02:44:41.071
OUR COMMUNITY WAS SHAKEN TO ITS

02:44:41.137 --> 02:44:44.307
CORE BY THE BRUTAL RAPE AND

02:44:44.374 --> 02:44:46.843
MURDER OF EIGHT YEAR OLD

02:44:46.910 --> 02:44:49.713
MADISON MADDY MIDDLETON BY HER

02:44:49.779 --> 02:44:51.214
NEIGHBOR, ADRIAN GONZALEZ, WHO

02:44:51.281 --> 02:44:52.916
WAS JUST THREE MONTHS SHY OF

02:44:52.983 --> 02:44:56.886
TURNING 16. THIS WAS NOT JUST A

02:44:56.953 --> 02:44:59.756
HEADLINE. IT WAS A CHILD, A

02:44:59.823 --> 02:45:02.325
FAMILY, A COMMUNITY FOREVER

02:45:02.392 --> 02:45:04.995
CHANGED DUE TO SEVERAL CHANGES

02:45:05.061 --> 02:45:07.330
IN THE JUVENILE JUSTICE SYSTEM.

02:45:07.397 --> 02:45:09.499
GONZALEZ'S CASE WAS ULTIMATELY

02:45:09.566 --> 02:45:10.533
ADJUDICATED IN JUVENILE COURT

02:45:10.600 --> 02:45:14.070
IN 2021. AT 21 YEARS OLD, HE

02:45:14.137 --> 02:45:15.772
WAS COMMITTED TO A SECURED

02:45:15.839 --> 02:45:17.073
YOUTH TREATMENT FACILITY IN

02:45:17.140 --> 02:45:19.576
SONOMA COUNTY. THREE YEARS

02:45:19.643 --> 02:45:21.745
LATER, IN 2024, HE WAS BACK IN

02:45:21.811 --> 02:45:23.913
COURT THIS TIME BECAUSE THE

02:45:23.980 --> 02:45:25.015
SANTA CRUZ DISTRICT ATTORNEY

02:45:25.081 --> 02:45:27.484
BELIEVED GONZALEZ STILL POSED A

02:45:27.550 --> 02:45:29.653
DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY AND

02:45:29.719 --> 02:45:31.087
PETITION FOR AN EXTENSION

02:45:31.154 --> 02:45:33.089
DETENTION HEARING. THIS MARKED

02:45:33.156 --> 02:45:35.492
THE FIRST WELFARE AND

02:45:35.558 --> 02:45:37.560
INSTITUTIONS CODE, SECTION 876,

02:45:37.627 --> 02:45:39.829
HEARING OF ITS KIND ANYWHERE IN

02:45:39.896 --> 02:45:42.299
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA. SANTA

02:45:42.365 --> 02:45:43.700
CRUZ COUNTY BECAME THE TEST

02:45:43.767 --> 02:45:45.869
CASE AT THE INTERSECTION OF A

02:45:45.935 --> 02:45:48.505
SYSTEM IN TRANSITION AND A CASE

02:45:48.571 --> 02:45:51.641
THAT PUSHED ITS LIMITS. THESE

02:45:51.708 --> 02:45:53.076
HEARINGS ARE MEANT FOR THE

02:45:53.143 --> 02:45:55.211
RAREST OF CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN,

02:45:55.278 --> 02:45:57.714
DESPITE EVERY EFFORT,

02:45:57.781 --> 02:45:59.482
REHABILITATION HAS NOT BEEN

02:45:59.549 --> 02:46:01.985
ACHIEVED. AFTER THE HEARING, I

02:46:02.052 --> 02:46:03.520
MET WITH JURORS WHO MADE THE

02:46:03.586 --> 02:46:05.322
DIFFICULT DECISION THAT

02:46:05.388 --> 02:46:07.490
GONZALEZ WAS NOT SAFE TO BE

02:46:07.557 --> 02:46:08.892
RELEASED. I SPOKE WITH THE

02:46:08.958 --> 02:46:10.026
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE

02:46:10.093 --> 02:46:12.162
ABOUT THE CHALLENGES THEY FACED,

02:46:12.228 --> 02:46:13.596
AND I HEARD FROM COMMUNITY

02:46:13.663 --> 02:46:15.432
MEMBERS WHOSE GRIEF AND TRAUMA

02:46:15.498 --> 02:46:17.233
WERE BROUGHT BACK TO THE

02:46:17.300 --> 02:46:20.437
SURFACE ALL OVER AGAIN. FOR THE

02:46:20.503 --> 02:46:21.905
PAST YEAR, I'VE WORKED TO

02:46:21.971 --> 02:46:22.939
UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS CASE

02:46:23.006 --> 02:46:24.774
REVEALED ABOUT THE GAPS IN OUR

02:46:24.841 --> 02:46:27.277
SYSTEM, THE LIMITS OF

02:46:27.344 --> 02:46:29.079
REHABILITATION, AND OUR

02:46:29.145 --> 02:46:30.580
RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT OUR

02:46:30.647 --> 02:46:32.382
COMMUNITIES WHILE HONORING THE

02:46:32.449 --> 02:46:34.517
VALUES OF OUR JUVENILE JUSTICE

02:46:34.584 --> 02:46:36.686
SYSTEM. THE CULMINATION OF THIS

02:46:36.753 --> 02:46:38.455
YEAR LONG EFFORT IS THE BILL

02:46:38.521 --> 02:46:40.990
BEFORE YOU, AB 1902, WHICH

02:46:41.057 --> 02:46:42.392
MAKES SEVERAL IMPORTANT

02:46:42.459 --> 02:46:43.860
IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DETENTION

02:46:43.927 --> 02:46:46.363
EXTENSION HEARING PROCESS.

02:46:46.429 --> 02:46:48.164
FIRST, THE BILL CLARIFIES

02:46:48.231 --> 02:46:49.933
JURISDICTIONAL AUTHORITY. SANTA

02:46:49.999 --> 02:46:51.801
CRUZ COUNTY IDENTIFIED THAT

02:46:51.868 --> 02:46:53.203
AMBIGUITY IN THE EXISTING

02:46:53.269 --> 02:46:54.971
PROCESS, WHICH HAVE RESULTED IN

02:46:55.038 --> 02:46:56.806
GONZALEZ BEING RELEASED, WHICH

02:46:56.873 --> 02:46:58.408
COULD HAVE RESULTED IN GONZALEZ

02:46:58.475 --> 02:47:00.009
BEING RELEASED INTO THE

02:47:00.076 --> 02:47:01.111
COMMUNITY WHILE THE HEARING WAS

02:47:01.177 --> 02:47:02.912
UNDER CONSIDERATION OR EVEN

02:47:02.979 --> 02:47:05.415
DURING THE HEARING ITSELF.

02:47:05.482 --> 02:47:07.283
SECOND, THE BILL ALLOWS EITHER

02:47:07.350 --> 02:47:09.018
PARTY TO PETITION FOR

02:47:09.085 --> 02:47:11.154
CONTINUANCE. THIRD, IT PERMITS

02:47:11.221 --> 02:47:12.622
HEARSAY TESTIMONY, BUT ONLY

02:47:12.689 --> 02:47:14.424
DURING THE PROBABLE CAUSE

02:47:14.491 --> 02:47:15.859
HEARING. AND FOURTH, IT

02:47:15.925 --> 02:47:17.861
PROVIDES CLARITY ON THE SHARING

02:47:17.927 --> 02:47:19.796
OF EVIDENCE BETWEEN THE

02:47:19.863 --> 02:47:22.665
PROSECUTION AND THE DEFENSE.

02:47:22.732 --> 02:47:24.134
FIFTH, THE BILL EXTENDS THE

02:47:24.200 --> 02:47:25.969
MAXIMUM TERM FOR DETENTION

02:47:26.035 --> 02:47:28.104
EXTENSION TO FOUR YEARS. IT

02:47:28.171 --> 02:47:29.506
ALSO REQUIRES COURTS TO

02:47:29.572 --> 02:47:30.940
CONSIDER BOTH THE EVIDENCE

02:47:31.007 --> 02:47:33.109
PRESENTED AT TRIAL AND THE

02:47:33.176 --> 02:47:34.878
CLINICAL ASSESSMENT, AND TO

02:47:34.944 --> 02:47:36.713
CLEARLY EXPLAIN THE BASIS FOR

02:47:36.780 --> 02:47:39.215
THE LENGTH OF TIME ORDERED.

02:47:39.282 --> 02:47:41.050
JOINING ME TODAY TO TESTIFY IN

02:47:41.117 --> 02:47:43.586
SUPPORT ARE LAUREN APTER, THE

02:47:43.653 --> 02:47:44.854
ASSISTANT DISTRICT ATTORNEY

02:47:44.921 --> 02:47:46.856
WITH SANTA CRUZ COUNTY, AND

02:47:46.923 --> 02:47:48.258
LAURA JORDAN, A SANTA CRUZ

02:47:48.324 --> 02:47:49.759
COUNTY COMMUNITY MEMBER. BUT

02:47:49.826 --> 02:47:51.861
MOST IMPORTANTLY, MADDIE'S

02:47:51.928 --> 02:47:54.063
MOTHER. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

02:47:54.130 --> 02:47:55.665
COMING UP TODAY AND TESTIFYING.

02:47:55.732 --> 02:47:57.233
EACH OF YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

02:47:57.300 --> 02:47:59.702
THANK YOU. YES. THANK YOU. VICE

02:47:59.769 --> 02:48:04.040
CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR. MIKE, I

02:48:04.107 --> 02:48:05.475
THINK YOU JUST NEED TO BE

02:48:05.542 --> 02:48:06.943
CLOSER TO YOU. CAN YOU HEAR ME

02:48:07.010 --> 02:48:08.611
NOW? BETTER. THAT'S BETTER. I

02:48:08.678 --> 02:48:09.846
WILL MOVE MUCH CLOSER. THANK

02:48:09.913 --> 02:48:12.348
YOU. VICE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR

02:48:12.415 --> 02:48:13.450
LAUREN APTER, ASSISTANT

02:48:13.516 --> 02:48:14.517
DISTRICT ATTORNEY ON BEHALF OF

02:48:14.584 --> 02:48:15.985
THE SANTA CRUZ COUNTY DISTRICT

02:48:16.052 --> 02:48:17.120
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, SPONSOR OF

02:48:17.187 --> 02:48:18.688
THIS BILL. I WOULD LIKE TO

02:48:18.755 --> 02:48:19.756
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HERE WITH US

02:48:19.823 --> 02:48:20.890
TODAY ARE MADDIE MIDDLETON'S

02:48:20.957 --> 02:48:22.492
MOTHER, LAURA JORDAN, OUR

02:48:22.559 --> 02:48:23.960
ELECTED D.A. JEFF ROSELLE, AND

02:48:24.027 --> 02:48:25.762
OUR CHIEF DEPUTY, TARA GEORGE,

02:48:25.829 --> 02:48:27.864
WHO COMPLETED THE FIRST WICK

02:48:27.931 --> 02:48:29.432
876 DETENTION EXTENSION TRIAL

02:48:29.499 --> 02:48:32.702
IN 2025, WHEN SB 1391 WAS

02:48:32.769 --> 02:48:33.970
SIGNED INTO LAW, THEN GOVERNOR

02:48:34.037 --> 02:48:35.872
BROWN'S PROMISE TO VICTIMS WAS

02:48:35.939 --> 02:48:37.207
THAT THIS DETENTION EXTENSION

02:48:37.273 --> 02:48:38.608
PROCESS WOULD PERMIT, AND I

02:48:38.675 --> 02:48:40.343
QUOTE, EXTENDED INCARCERATION.

02:48:40.410 --> 02:48:41.878
IF A YOUTH IS DEEMED TRULY

02:48:41.945 --> 02:48:43.680
DANGEROUS. IN CONDUCTING THE

02:48:43.746 --> 02:48:45.849
HEARING OF ADRIAN GONZALEZ,

02:48:45.915 --> 02:48:48.284
MADDIE'S NOW 26 YEAR OLD RAPIST

02:48:48.351 --> 02:48:49.819
AND MURDERER. OUR COMMUNITY

02:48:49.886 --> 02:48:50.887
LEARNED THAT CHANGES MUST BE

02:48:50.954 --> 02:48:53.723
MADE TO KEEP THIS PROMISE.

02:48:53.790 --> 02:48:55.558
WHILE THIS BILL APPLIES TO,

02:48:55.625 --> 02:48:56.993
APPROPRIATELY, A VERY SMALL

02:48:57.060 --> 02:48:58.828
SUBSET OF A. NOW ADULT

02:48:58.895 --> 02:48:59.896
OFFENDERS, THE PUBLIC SAFETY

02:48:59.963 --> 02:49:03.466
AND COMMUNITY IMPACTS ARE HUGE.

02:49:03.533 --> 02:49:05.301
UNDER CURRENT LAW, WE HAVE

02:49:05.368 --> 02:49:06.736
HEARINGS EVERY TWO YEARS.

02:49:06.803 --> 02:49:07.804
WHETHER OR NOT ADRIAN'S

02:49:07.871 --> 02:49:09.606
TREATMENT HAS PROGRESSED. WE

02:49:09.672 --> 02:49:12.075
ARE ALREADY BACK IN COURT

02:49:12.141 --> 02:49:14.277
ACTIVELY LITIGATING THE SECOND

02:49:14.344 --> 02:49:15.745
DETENTION EXTENSION HEARING.

02:49:15.812 --> 02:49:17.080
THE FOCUS IS ON LITIGATION AND

02:49:17.146 --> 02:49:21.184
NOT REHABILITATION. MISS JORDAN,

02:49:21.251 --> 02:49:22.952
MORE ELOQUENTLY THAN I CAN,

02:49:23.019 --> 02:49:24.387
WILL EXPLAIN HOW THE TWO YEAR

02:49:24.454 --> 02:49:26.155
CYCLE IS DEEPLY RETRAUMATIZING

02:49:26.222 --> 02:49:27.924
FOR VICTIMS, THEIR SURVIVING

02:49:27.991 --> 02:49:29.092
FAMILIES. IT ALSO

02:49:29.158 --> 02:49:30.927
RETRAUMATIZING OFFICERS WHO

02:49:30.994 --> 02:49:32.362
HAVE TO RELIVE THE WORST

02:49:32.428 --> 02:49:33.730
MOMENTS OF THEIR CAREERS.

02:49:33.796 --> 02:49:34.898
JURORS WHO HAVE TO SERVE AND

02:49:34.964 --> 02:49:36.733
THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. THIS

02:49:36.799 --> 02:49:38.434
IS NOT A COMMON SENSE APPROACH

02:49:38.501 --> 02:49:40.937
TO JUSTICE, TO TREATMENT, OR

02:49:41.004 --> 02:49:44.507
THE USE OF PUBLIC RESOURCES. WE

02:49:44.574 --> 02:49:46.009
HAVE ADDRESSED MANY OF THE

02:49:46.075 --> 02:49:47.443
OPPOSITION'S CONCERNS,

02:49:47.510 --> 02:49:48.478
INCLUDING REQUIRING THAT A

02:49:48.545 --> 02:49:50.213
COURT STATE ON THE RECORD,

02:49:50.280 --> 02:49:52.115
BASED ON A CLINICAL ASSESSMENT

02:49:52.181 --> 02:49:54.250
AND TRIAL EVIDENCE, WHY A

02:49:54.317 --> 02:49:56.085
CERTAIN LENGTH OF DETENTION IS

02:49:56.152 --> 02:49:58.621
APPROPRIATE. WE ALSO MAKE

02:49:58.688 --> 02:49:59.989
CRITICAL PROCEDURAL

02:50:00.056 --> 02:50:01.024
IMPROVEMENTS, INCLUDING

02:50:01.090 --> 02:50:03.660
ENSURING JURISDICTION,

02:50:03.726 --> 02:50:04.661
STREAMLINING PROBABLE CAUSE

02:50:04.727 --> 02:50:05.762
HEARINGS, WHICH ARE REALLY JUST

02:50:05.828 --> 02:50:07.530
A GUT CHECK SO THAT PEOPLE

02:50:07.597 --> 02:50:08.998
DON'T HAVE TO TESTIFY AGAIN AND

02:50:09.065 --> 02:50:10.967
AGAIN AND AGAIN. AND APPLYING

02:50:11.034 --> 02:50:13.002
OUR STATE'S VERY SENSIBLE,

02:50:13.069 --> 02:50:14.404
RECIPROCAL CRIMINAL DISCOVERY

02:50:14.470 --> 02:50:15.872
RULES. WE HOPE SANTA CRUZ

02:50:15.939 --> 02:50:16.906
EXPERIENCE CAN LEAD TO A BETTER

02:50:16.973 --> 02:50:18.474
PROCESS FOR VICTIMS AND FOR

02:50:18.541 --> 02:50:21.210
JUSTICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

02:50:21.277 --> 02:50:23.012
NEXT WITNESS. THANK YOU FOR

02:50:23.079 --> 02:50:24.514
COMING TODAY. GOOD MORNING,

02:50:24.581 --> 02:50:26.282
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. MY NAME IS

02:50:26.349 --> 02:50:27.750
LAURA JORDAN AND I AM THE

02:50:27.817 --> 02:50:29.586
MOTHER OF MADISON MIDDLETON.

02:50:29.652 --> 02:50:30.887
MADISON WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD

02:50:30.954 --> 02:50:32.055
WHEN HER LIFE WAS BRUTALLY

02:50:32.121 --> 02:50:33.656
TAKEN AWAY BY ADRIAN GONZALEZ

02:50:33.723 --> 02:50:36.292
IN 2015. SHE WAS LURED,

02:50:36.359 --> 02:50:38.194
STRANGLED, RAPED, TORTURED AND

02:50:38.261 --> 02:50:39.629
MURDERED IN A MANNER THAT WAS

02:50:39.696 --> 02:50:41.831
VICIOUS AND CALCULATED. MADISON

02:50:41.898 --> 02:50:43.232
WAS A SPITFIRE AND FILLED OUR

02:50:43.299 --> 02:50:44.801
LIVES WITH HUMOR AND LIGHT. HER

02:50:44.867 --> 02:50:46.069
LAST MOMENTS WERE INSTEAD

02:50:46.135 --> 02:50:48.237
FILLED WITH PAIN AND TERROR.

02:50:48.304 --> 02:50:49.706
SINCE THAT DAY, MY LIFE AND MY

02:50:49.772 --> 02:50:51.240
FAMILY'S LIVES HAVE BEEN A

02:50:51.307 --> 02:50:52.909
LIVING HELL. IN 2017, AFTER A

02:50:52.976 --> 02:50:54.377
GRUELING NINE WEEK TRANSFER

02:50:54.444 --> 02:50:55.278
HEARING, THE JUDGE STATED THAT

02:50:55.345 --> 02:50:57.580
THE CRIME WAS THE MOST HEINOUS

02:50:57.647 --> 02:50:59.048
HE HAD SEEN AND RULED THAT

02:50:59.115 --> 02:51:00.483
GONZALEZ WOULD BE TRIED AS AN

02:51:00.550 --> 02:51:01.651
ADULT. BUT THAT SMALL VICTORY

02:51:01.718 --> 02:51:04.053
WAS RIPPED AWAY IN 2018. FROM

02:51:04.120 --> 02:51:05.421
THAT POINT ON, WE'VE BEEN STUCK

02:51:05.488 --> 02:51:07.323
IN A NEVER ENDING CYCLE OF

02:51:07.390 --> 02:51:09.559
HEARINGS. IN 2021, GONZALEZ WAS

02:51:09.626 --> 02:51:11.894
FINALLY SENT TO DJJ JUST AS IT

02:51:11.961 --> 02:51:14.297
WAS BEING DISMANTLED. THEN, AS

02:51:14.364 --> 02:51:15.732
HE APPROACHED 25, WE WERE

02:51:15.798 --> 02:51:17.200
PULLED BACK INTO COURT TO

02:51:17.266 --> 02:51:18.267
DETERMINE IF HE WOULD BE

02:51:18.334 --> 02:51:20.803
RELEASED IN 2025. WE CONCLUDED

02:51:20.870 --> 02:51:22.872
AN EIGHT MONTH TRIAL PROCESS. I

02:51:22.939 --> 02:51:24.574
HAD TO LISTEN TO MY DAUGHTER'S

02:51:24.641 --> 02:51:26.075
SADISTIC KILLER DESCRIBE HER

02:51:26.142 --> 02:51:27.510
CRUEL DEATH WHEN HE TOOK THE

02:51:27.577 --> 02:51:30.013
STAND FOR EIGHT LONG DAYS. HE

02:51:30.079 --> 02:51:32.181
HAS NEVER EXPRESSED REMORSE NOR

02:51:32.248 --> 02:51:33.549
APOLOGIZED. HIS CRIME WAS A

02:51:33.616 --> 02:51:35.385
CALCULATED, PREDATORY ACT, NOT

02:51:35.451 --> 02:51:37.654
THE MISTAKE OF A CHILD. AND THE

02:51:37.720 --> 02:51:39.389
TRAUMA CONTINUES BECAUSE UNDER

02:51:39.455 --> 02:51:40.523
CURRENT LAW, EVERY TWO YEARS HE

02:51:40.590 --> 02:51:42.225
HAS THE CHANCE OF RELEASE.

02:51:42.291 --> 02:51:43.326
PREPARATIONS FOR TRIAL BEGIN

02:51:43.393 --> 02:51:44.761
MONTHS IN ADVANCE. THERE IS NO

02:51:44.827 --> 02:51:46.596
REAL BREAK TO PUT THIS INTO

02:51:46.663 --> 02:51:47.697
PERSPECTIVE. THE SANTA CRUZ DE

02:51:47.764 --> 02:51:48.731
à CONCLUDED THE FIRST

02:51:48.798 --> 02:51:51.968
EXTENSION HEARING IN 2025,

02:51:52.035 --> 02:51:53.436
BELIEVING GONZALEZ IS STILL

02:51:53.503 --> 02:51:54.504
DANGEROUS PROBATION HAS

02:51:54.570 --> 02:51:55.905
PETITIONED ANOTHER HEARING. THE

02:51:55.972 --> 02:51:57.306
D.A. IS CURRENTLY PREPARING FOR

02:51:57.373 --> 02:51:59.942
ANOTHER TRIAL, AS AM I. FOR THE

02:52:00.009 --> 02:52:01.644
REST OF MY LIFE, I WILL BE

02:52:01.711 --> 02:52:02.812
FORCED TO RELIVE MY DAUGHTER'S

02:52:02.879 --> 02:52:04.213
MURDER, TO DEFEND WHAT HAPPENED

02:52:04.280 --> 02:52:06.149
TO HER, AND TO BEG THE SYSTEM

02:52:06.215 --> 02:52:08.151
TO PROTECT OTHER CHILDREN AND

02:52:08.217 --> 02:52:09.952
FAMILIES. EVERY COURT

02:52:10.019 --> 02:52:11.354
APPEARANCE, EVERY HEARING, AND

02:52:11.421 --> 02:52:12.855
EVERY TRIAL BRINGS MORE PAIN.

02:52:12.922 --> 02:52:14.624
YET I CONTINUE TO FIGHT FOR

02:52:14.691 --> 02:52:16.793
MADDIE. I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO

02:52:16.859 --> 02:52:18.728
HOLD A JOB FOR A DECADE. I'VE

02:52:18.795 --> 02:52:19.862
INSTEAD SPENT MONTHS AT A TIME

02:52:19.929 --> 02:52:20.930
MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY

02:52:20.997 --> 02:52:22.598
PREPARING FOR TRIALS. MADISON'S

02:52:22.665 --> 02:52:23.966
DAD COULDN'T COPE WITH THE

02:52:24.033 --> 02:52:25.435
GRIEF SELF-MEDICATED AND LOST

02:52:25.501 --> 02:52:27.236
HIS LIFE. BOTH OF MADDIE'S

02:52:27.303 --> 02:52:28.771
GRANDFATHERS PASSED AWAY BEFORE

02:52:28.838 --> 02:52:30.907
SEEING JUSTICE FOR MADISON. WE

02:52:30.973 --> 02:52:32.642
HAVE NO RESOLUTION. INSTEAD, WE

02:52:32.709 --> 02:52:34.077
ARE FORCED TO RETURN AGAIN AND

02:52:34.143 --> 02:52:36.079
AGAIN TO COURT TO CONTINUE TO

02:52:36.145 --> 02:52:37.447
FIGHT FOR JUSTICE. WE SHOULD

02:52:37.513 --> 02:52:38.748
NOT HAVE TO RELIVE THIS

02:52:38.815 --> 02:52:41.284
NIGHTMARE EVERY TWO YEARS. NO

02:52:41.350 --> 02:52:43.019
PARENT SHOULD. NO COMMUNITY

02:52:43.086 --> 02:52:44.887
SHOULD. MY DAUGHTER MATTERED.

02:52:44.954 --> 02:52:45.955
MADISON MATTERS AND THE LAW

02:52:46.022 --> 02:52:47.790
SHOULD REFLECT THAT. I

02:52:47.857 --> 02:52:49.292
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOU FOR

02:52:49.358 --> 02:52:52.428
YOUR AYE VOTE ON AB 1902. THANK

02:52:52.495 --> 02:52:54.430
YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND THANK YOU

02:52:54.497 --> 02:52:56.733
FOR YOUR COURAGE IN SHARING

02:52:56.799 --> 02:52:58.968
THIS GOD AWFUL EPISODE IN YOUR

02:52:59.035 --> 02:53:01.404
LIFE THAT CONTINUES ON. ALL

02:53:01.471 --> 02:53:03.239
RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE WILL

02:53:03.306 --> 02:53:08.010
TAKE OTHER ME TWOS IN IN

02:53:08.077 --> 02:53:09.412
SUPPORT OF THE BILL. YOU CAN

02:53:09.479 --> 02:53:10.980
COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE,

02:53:11.047 --> 02:53:13.583
STATE YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION.

02:53:13.649 --> 02:53:15.351
MY NAME IS JEFF ROSELLE AND I

02:53:15.418 --> 02:53:16.586
AM THE SANTA CRUZ COUNTY

02:53:16.652 --> 02:53:19.088
DISTRICT ATTORNEY, AND WE

02:53:19.155 --> 02:53:22.024
SUPPORT AND SPONSOR THIS BILL.

02:53:22.091 --> 02:53:26.229
THANK YOU. MAX PERRY, ON BEHALF

02:53:26.295 --> 02:53:27.363
OF THE CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS

02:53:27.430 --> 02:53:30.967
ASSOCIATION, ALSO IN SUPPORT.

02:53:31.033 --> 02:53:32.468
RANDY PERRY ON BEHALF OF PORAC

02:53:32.535 --> 02:53:37.039
AND SUPPORT. ELENA, COMMUNITY

02:53:37.106 --> 02:53:39.242
MEMBER AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT

02:53:39.308 --> 02:53:44.680
AB 1902. PLEASE PASS. SHAWNA

02:53:44.747 --> 02:53:45.748
SPAULDING, COMMUNITY MEMBER AND

02:53:45.815 --> 02:53:48.551
STRONG SUPPORT. DANIEL SANCHEZ,

02:53:48.618 --> 02:53:49.719
ON BEHALF OF THE CHIEF

02:53:49.786 --> 02:53:50.787
PROBATION OFFICERS OF

02:53:50.853 --> 02:53:51.420
CALIFORNIA. PLEASED TO SUPPORT,

02:53:51.487 --> 02:53:54.757
IF AMENDED, THANK YOU. IVY

02:53:54.824 --> 02:53:55.858
FITZPATRICK ON BEHALF OF THE

02:53:55.925 --> 02:53:56.826
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION, THE

02:53:56.893 --> 02:53:57.927
RIVERSIDE COUNTY DISTRICT

02:53:57.994 --> 02:54:01.931
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SUPPORT.

02:54:01.998 --> 02:54:03.733
OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE

02:54:03.800 --> 02:54:06.269
THE TWO PRINCIPAL WITNESSES IN

02:54:06.335 --> 02:54:08.504
OPPOSITION IF WE HAVE ANY. COME

02:54:08.571 --> 02:54:11.274
ON UP. HAVE A SEAT. EACH. HAVE

02:54:11.340 --> 02:54:21.384
TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. THANK

02:54:21.450 --> 02:54:23.519
YOU, VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU,

02:54:23.586 --> 02:54:25.288
VICE CHAIR. I AM RACHEL ENGEL,

02:54:25.354 --> 02:54:26.422
SUPERVISING ASSISTANT PUBLIC

02:54:26.489 --> 02:54:28.591
DEFENDER IN SACRAMENTO COUNTY,

02:54:28.658 --> 02:54:30.393
WHERE I HAVE MORE THAN 20 YEARS

02:54:30.459 --> 02:54:31.794
EXPERIENCE, INCLUDING

02:54:31.861 --> 02:54:33.296
LITIGATING A WICK 1800 TRIAL,

02:54:33.362 --> 02:54:35.398
WHICH IS THE PREDECESSOR FOR

02:54:35.464 --> 02:54:37.600
LAW, FOR WHICH SECTION 876 IS

02:54:37.667 --> 02:54:39.669
BASED ON. I ALSO CURRENTLY

02:54:39.735 --> 02:54:42.238
SUPERVISE OUR DIVISION HANDLING

02:54:42.305 --> 02:54:42.972
CONSERVATORSHIPS AND OTHER

02:54:43.039 --> 02:54:45.474
ADULT CIVIL COMMITMENTS. I

02:54:45.541 --> 02:54:47.276
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR'S APRIL

02:54:47.343 --> 02:54:49.078
AMENDMENTS. HOWEVER, BECAUSE

02:54:49.145 --> 02:54:51.247
JUNE AMENDMENTS REVERSE COURSE

02:54:51.314 --> 02:54:52.682
ON SOME ELEMENTS AND OTHER

02:54:52.748 --> 02:54:54.116
ISSUES REMAIN, I ASK THIS

02:54:54.183 --> 02:54:55.184
COMMITTEE TO NOT PERMIT THE

02:54:55.251 --> 02:54:56.786
BILL TO MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT

02:54:56.853 --> 02:54:59.155
ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS. WE

02:54:59.222 --> 02:55:00.957
MUST START WITH THE RECOGNITION

02:55:01.023 --> 02:55:02.792
THAT THIS IS ABOUT TREATMENT,

02:55:02.859 --> 02:55:04.961
NOT PUNISHMENT. IMPORTANTLY, IT

02:55:05.027 --> 02:55:06.596
IS EXACTLY FOR THE SAFETY OF

02:55:06.662 --> 02:55:09.265
THE COMMUNITY THAT ADEQUATE AND

02:55:09.332 --> 02:55:11.701
CONSISTENT TREATMENT IS GIVEN

02:55:11.767 --> 02:55:14.270
AS NEEDED FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS.

02:55:14.337 --> 02:55:15.905
THIS BILL WOULD DOUBLE EXISTING

02:55:15.972 --> 02:55:17.506
LAWS COMMITMENT PERIOD TO FOUR

02:55:17.573 --> 02:55:19.575
YEARS. ALTHOUGH IT'S ONLY BEEN

02:55:19.642 --> 02:55:22.245
USED ONCE SINCE ENACTED IN 2020.

02:55:22.311 --> 02:55:24.013
SECTION 876 IS BASED ON A LAW

02:55:24.080 --> 02:55:26.148
THAT HAS HAD A TWO YEAR

02:55:26.215 --> 02:55:27.984
COMMITMENT PERIOD FOR AT LEAST

02:55:28.050 --> 02:55:30.853
45 YEARS. SIGNIFICANTLY, EVERY

02:55:30.920 --> 02:55:33.322
OTHER ANALOGOUS ADULT CIVIL

02:55:33.389 --> 02:55:34.790
COMMITMENT LAW COVERING

02:55:34.857 --> 02:55:36.259
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE DEEMED

02:55:36.325 --> 02:55:38.794
DANGEROUS REQUIRES REVIEW AT 1

02:55:38.861 --> 02:55:41.631
OR 2 YEAR INTERVALS. REGULAR

02:55:41.697 --> 02:55:43.065
REVIEW ENSURES COMMITMENT IS

02:55:43.132 --> 02:55:45.768
TREATMENT ORIENTED AND FOCUSED

02:55:45.835 --> 02:55:47.737
ON CURRENT CLINICAL

02:55:47.803 --> 02:55:50.039
PRESENTATION. A SECOND CONCERN

02:55:50.106 --> 02:55:51.274
IS THAT THIS BILL WOULD NOT

02:55:51.340 --> 02:55:53.109
EXCLUDE JAIL OR PRISON AS A

02:55:53.175 --> 02:55:54.477
PLACEMENT, OR SPECIFY THAT

02:55:54.543 --> 02:55:57.113
PLACEMENT MUST BE FOR TREATMENT.

02:55:57.179 --> 02:55:58.948
NO ADULT CIVIL COMMITMENT LAW

02:55:59.015 --> 02:56:01.050
PERMITS COMMITMENT TO JAIL.

02:56:01.117 --> 02:56:02.518
JAIL SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE

02:56:02.585 --> 02:56:04.320
LONG TERM INTENSIVE TREATMENT

02:56:04.387 --> 02:56:06.122
THAT INDIVIDUALS WITH MENTAL

02:56:06.188 --> 02:56:08.291
ILLNESS NEED. I ENCOURAGE THIS

02:56:08.357 --> 02:56:10.092
COMMITTEE TO ASK, ON WHAT

02:56:10.159 --> 02:56:11.727
GROUND SHOULD THE STATE PASS A

02:56:11.794 --> 02:56:13.696
LAW THAT IS HARSHER FOR YOUNG

02:56:13.763 --> 02:56:15.598
PEOPLE IN THE JUVENILE SYSTEM

02:56:15.665 --> 02:56:18.401
THAN ANY SIMILAR LAW FOR ADULTS?

02:56:18.467 --> 02:56:20.136
THE CONSTITUTION ONLY PERMITS

02:56:20.202 --> 02:56:21.237
CIVIL COMMITMENT WHERE

02:56:21.304 --> 02:56:23.005
CONFINEMENT IS NON-PUNITIVE AND

02:56:23.072 --> 02:56:25.574
TREATMENT ORIENTED. AB 1902 IS

02:56:25.641 --> 02:56:27.009
FOR YOUR COMMITMENT WITHOUT

02:56:27.076 --> 02:56:29.245
PERIODIC REVIEW, POTENTIALLY IN

02:56:29.312 --> 02:56:31.347
A COUNTY JAIL OR OTHER

02:56:31.414 --> 02:56:32.415
CUSTODIAL SETTING WILL BE

02:56:32.481 --> 02:56:33.916
DIFFICULT TO DISTINGUISH FROM

02:56:33.983 --> 02:56:37.086
AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL PURPOSE.

02:56:37.153 --> 02:56:38.888
ALL RIGHT. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.

02:56:38.955 --> 02:56:39.989
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, VICE

02:56:40.056 --> 02:56:46.462
CHAIR. IS THIS ON? THANK YOU.

02:56:46.529 --> 02:56:47.897
OKAY. GOOD MORNING, VICE CHAIR.

02:56:47.964 --> 02:56:49.699
MY NAME IS JESSICA AND I'M A

02:56:49.765 --> 02:56:50.766
DEPUTY ALTERNATE PUBLIC

02:56:50.833 --> 02:56:51.901
DEFENDER IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY

02:56:51.968 --> 02:56:52.902
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE

02:56:52.969 --> 02:56:54.370
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS

02:56:54.437 --> 02:56:56.172
ASSOCIATION, I HAVE 15 YEARS OF

02:56:56.238 --> 02:56:57.273
COURTROOM EXPERIENCE

02:56:57.340 --> 02:56:58.274
REPRESENTING YOUTH AND YOUNG

02:56:58.341 --> 02:56:59.475
ADULTS IN CRIMINAL AND

02:56:59.542 --> 02:57:00.476
DELINQUENCY MATTERS. AND I'M

02:57:00.543 --> 02:57:01.610
HERE TO RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO

02:57:01.677 --> 02:57:04.080
OPPOSE AB 1902. THE BILL

02:57:04.146 --> 02:57:05.481
PRESERVES THE TERM OTHER

02:57:05.548 --> 02:57:06.582
PROBLEM AS A QUALIFYING

02:57:06.649 --> 02:57:08.351
STANDARD FOR CIVIL COMMITMENT.

02:57:08.417 --> 02:57:09.518
CIVIL COMMITMENT IS

02:57:09.585 --> 02:57:10.586
CONSTITUTIONALLY PERMISSIBLE

02:57:10.653 --> 02:57:12.021
ONLY WHERE THE BASIS OF

02:57:12.088 --> 02:57:13.055
CONFINEMENT IS A TREATABLE

02:57:13.122 --> 02:57:15.591
CLINICAL CONDITION. IN 15 YEARS,

02:57:15.658 --> 02:57:17.393
I'VE SEEN YOUTH ARE OFTEN

02:57:17.460 --> 02:57:18.828
DESCRIBED IN BROAD, SUBJECTIVE

02:57:18.894 --> 02:57:20.696
TERMS. FOR EXAMPLE, ANTISOCIAL

02:57:20.763 --> 02:57:22.431
PEER ASSOCIATION OR GANG

02:57:22.498 --> 02:57:23.532
AFFILIATION. THOSE DESCRIPTIONS

02:57:23.599 --> 02:57:25.034
ARE NOT CLINICAL DIAGNOSES AND

02:57:25.101 --> 02:57:26.402
THERE IS NO CIVIL COMMITMENT

02:57:26.469 --> 02:57:27.870
TREATMENT FOR THEM. YET UNDER

02:57:27.937 --> 02:57:28.938
THIS BILL, THOSE KINDS OF

02:57:29.005 --> 02:57:30.406
LABELS CAN BECOME THE BASIS FOR

02:57:30.473 --> 02:57:32.508
YEARS OF ADDITIONAL CONFINEMENT.

02:57:32.575 --> 02:57:33.976
UNDEFINED TERMS BECOME

02:57:34.043 --> 02:57:35.378
WEAPONIZED IN COURT. THIS

02:57:35.444 --> 02:57:36.612
CONCERN IS ESPECIALLY ACUTE FOR

02:57:36.679 --> 02:57:37.947
YOUTH OF COLOR, WHOSE RECORDS

02:57:38.014 --> 02:57:39.348
ARE MORE LIKELY TO REFLECT

02:57:39.415 --> 02:57:40.816
SYSTEMIC BIAS. AND THIS

02:57:40.883 --> 02:57:41.517
VAGUENESS IS EVEN MORE

02:57:41.584 --> 02:57:43.085
CONCERNING WHEN COMBINED WITH A

02:57:43.152 --> 02:57:44.086
LENGTHY COMMITMENT PERIOD AND

02:57:44.153 --> 02:57:45.821
THE POSSIBILITY OF PLACEMENT IN

02:57:45.888 --> 02:57:48.024
AN ADULT FACILITY TOGETHER.

02:57:48.090 --> 02:57:49.458
THIS APPROACH DOES NOT DESCRIBE

02:57:49.525 --> 02:57:51.227
TREATMENT ORIENTED INTERVENTION,

02:57:51.293 --> 02:57:53.095
BUT RATHER PREVENTATIVE

02:57:53.162 --> 02:57:54.163
DETENTION, WHICH THE

02:57:54.230 --> 02:57:55.197
CONSTITUTION DOES NOT PERMIT,

02:57:55.264 --> 02:57:56.632
AND THIS BODY SHOULD NOT

02:57:56.699 --> 02:57:58.467
AUTHORIZE. CALIFORNIA LAW IS

02:57:58.534 --> 02:57:59.568
INCREASINGLY RECOGNIZE WHAT

02:57:59.635 --> 02:58:00.903
SCIENCE HAS LONG KNOWN THAT THE

02:58:00.970 --> 02:58:02.071
ADOLESCENT BRAIN CONTINUES TO

02:58:02.138 --> 02:58:03.873
MATURE WELL INTO A PERSON'S

02:58:03.939 --> 02:58:04.907
MID-TWENTIES. ONE OF THE

02:58:04.974 --> 02:58:05.975
PRIVILEGES OF REPRESENTING

02:58:06.042 --> 02:58:07.276
YOUNG, YOUNG PEOPLE IS WATCHING

02:58:07.343 --> 02:58:08.878
HOW MUCH THEY CHANGE FROM

02:58:08.944 --> 02:58:10.146
ENTERING THE SYSTEM, IMPULSIVE

02:58:10.212 --> 02:58:11.147
AND ANGRY, TO BECOMING

02:58:11.213 --> 02:58:12.648
COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BY THE

02:58:12.715 --> 02:58:14.517
TIME THEY'RE IN THEIR EARLY 20S.

02:58:14.583 --> 02:58:15.584
AND THAT'S WHY CALIFORNIA IS

02:58:15.651 --> 02:58:16.519
INCREASINGLY RECOGNIZED THAT

02:58:16.585 --> 02:58:18.487
YOUNG ADULTS DESERVE DIFFERENT

02:58:18.554 --> 02:58:20.423
TREATMENT. AB 1902 IS ASKING

02:58:20.489 --> 02:58:21.757
YOU TO RAISE A COMMITMENT

02:58:21.824 --> 02:58:22.825
PERIOD FOR YOUTH AND YOUNG

02:58:22.892 --> 02:58:24.360
ADULTS, ONE THAT HAS BEEN IN

02:58:24.427 --> 02:58:25.795
PLACE FOR DECADES AT A TIME

02:58:25.861 --> 02:58:27.463
WHEN DOING SO IS SO

02:58:27.530 --> 02:58:28.597
INCONSISTENT WITH BOTH THE

02:58:28.664 --> 02:58:29.632
SCIENCE OF ADOLESCENT

02:58:29.698 --> 02:58:30.966
DEVELOPMENT AND CALIFORNIA'S

02:58:31.033 --> 02:58:32.568
OWN STATED VALUES REGARDING

02:58:32.635 --> 02:58:33.602
YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS. AND FOR

02:58:33.669 --> 02:58:35.071
THOSE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY

02:58:35.137 --> 02:58:36.505
ASK YOU TO OPPOSE THE BILL. I

02:58:36.572 --> 02:58:38.140
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AT THIS

02:58:38.207 --> 02:58:39.141
TIME, WE'LL TAKE OTHER

02:58:39.208 --> 02:58:40.776
OPPOSITION WITNESSES, COME UP

02:58:40.843 --> 02:58:42.244
TO THE MIC. STATE YOUR

02:58:42.311 --> 02:58:44.413
OPPOSITION. ABBY RODRIGUEZ

02:58:44.480 --> 02:58:45.848
REGISTERING OPPOSITION FOR ACLU

02:58:45.915 --> 02:58:47.283
CALIFORNIA ACTION AND THE SAN

02:58:47.349 --> 02:58:49.051
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S

02:58:49.118 --> 02:58:54.156
OFFICE. THANK YOU. JIM LINDBERG,

02:58:54.223 --> 02:58:55.591
ON BEHALF OF THE FRIENDS

02:58:55.658 --> 02:58:58.794
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION OF

02:58:58.861 --> 02:59:04.934
CALIFORNIA. OPPOSED. MARCO

02:59:05.000 --> 02:59:06.001
GEORGE ON BEHALF OF THE

02:59:06.068 --> 02:59:07.803
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS

02:59:07.870 --> 02:59:10.139
ASSOCIATION AS WELL. OPPOSED.

02:59:10.206 --> 02:59:13.175
THANK YOU. ISRAEL. WE'RE WITH

02:59:13.242 --> 02:59:14.343
THE CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE FOR

02:59:14.410 --> 02:59:16.078
YOUTH AND COMMUNITY JUSTICE.

02:59:16.145 --> 02:59:16.979
ALSO, BECAUSE OF THE REVERSAL

02:59:17.046 --> 02:59:19.315
OF AMENDMENTS AND IN RESPECTFUL

02:59:19.381 --> 02:59:23.619
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. LARA

02:59:23.686 --> 02:59:24.687
RODOLPHE WITH THE HAYWOOD BURNS

02:59:24.753 --> 02:59:28.657
INSTITUTE IN OPPOSITION. HIÆN

02:59:28.724 --> 02:59:30.092
NGUYEN WITH LEGAL SERVICES FOR

02:59:30.159 --> 02:59:32.128
PRISONERS WITH CHILDREN IN

02:59:32.194 --> 02:59:36.599
OPPOSITION. DAFNA, ON BEHALF OF

02:59:36.665 --> 02:59:37.800
THE NATIONAL CENTER FOR YOUTH

02:59:37.867 --> 02:59:39.468
LAW IN OPPOSITION, ALSO

02:59:39.535 --> 02:59:41.303
REGISTERING OPPOSITION FOR

02:59:41.370 --> 02:59:42.705
ALIANZA FOR OPPORTUNITY.

02:59:42.771 --> 02:59:44.140
ALLIANCE FOR BOYS AND MEN OF

02:59:44.206 --> 02:59:45.574
COLOR. BRIDGES OF HOPE.

02:59:45.641 --> 02:59:47.042
CALIFORNIA, CALIFORNIA

02:59:47.109 --> 02:59:49.245
COALITION FOR WOMEN PRISONERS,

02:59:49.311 --> 02:59:50.312
CALIFORNIA JUVENILE JUSTICE

02:59:50.379 --> 02:59:51.714
COMMISSIONERS COLLABORATIVE,

02:59:51.780 --> 02:59:53.182
CALIFORNIA YOUTH DEFENDER

02:59:53.249 --> 02:59:54.617
CENTER. CANCEL THE CONTRACT.

02:59:54.683 --> 02:59:56.785
ANTELOPE VALLEY, CAREFIRST,

02:59:56.852 --> 02:59:58.187
CALIFORNIA CENTER ON JUVENILE

02:59:58.254 --> 03:00:00.222
AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE COLLECTIVE

03:00:00.289 --> 03:00:02.892
FOR LIBERTY. LIBERATORY

03:00:02.958 --> 03:00:04.326
LAWYERING COMMUNITIES UNITED

03:00:04.393 --> 03:00:06.095
FOR RESTORATIVE JUSTICE,

03:00:06.162 --> 03:00:07.963
COMMUNITY INTERVENTIONS, FELONY

03:00:08.030 --> 03:00:09.732
MURDER ELIMINATION PROJECT,

03:00:09.798 --> 03:00:11.834
FRESH PLANS FOR YOUTH HANG OUT

03:00:11.901 --> 03:00:13.669
AND DO GOOD IN OUR CARE. SAN

03:00:13.736 --> 03:00:15.838
MATEO COUNTY LAW OFFICES OF

03:00:15.905 --> 03:00:18.407
TANYA IBANEZ, INTEGRAL

03:00:18.474 --> 03:00:20.176
COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS INSTITUTE

03:00:20.242 --> 03:00:21.977
INITIATE JUSTICE, NATIONAL

03:00:22.044 --> 03:00:23.445
CENTER FOR YOUTH LAW, PEACE

03:00:23.512 --> 03:00:25.247
UNITED CHRIST CHURCH, RESTORE

03:00:25.314 --> 03:00:27.383
180 RESTORING HOPE, CALIFORNIA

03:00:27.449 --> 03:00:29.552
RUBICON PROGRAM, SILICON VALLEY

03:00:29.618 --> 03:00:31.320
DEBUG THE CALIFORNIA YOUTH

03:00:31.387 --> 03:00:32.755
JUSTICE PROJECT, THE PEACE AND

03:00:32.821 --> 03:00:34.557
JUSTICE LAW CENTER, THE SOCIAL

03:00:34.623 --> 03:00:35.991
IMPACT CENTER, UNLOCKED FUTURES,

03:00:36.058 --> 03:00:37.426
URBAN PEACE INSTITUTE,

03:00:37.493 --> 03:00:38.827
YOUNGSTERS FOR CHANGE AND YOUTH

03:00:38.894 --> 03:00:41.130
JUSTICE COALITION. THANK YOU

03:00:41.197 --> 03:00:42.965
VERY MUCH. ANY OTHERS? IF THERE

03:00:43.032 --> 03:00:44.133
ARE NO OTHERS, WILL BRING IT

03:00:44.200 --> 03:00:47.536
BACK TO THE DAIS FOR YOU. ME?

03:00:47.603 --> 03:00:48.804
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH,

03:00:48.871 --> 03:00:50.873
I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO IS

03:00:50.940 --> 03:00:52.641
THIS FOUR YEAR EXTENSION? IS

03:00:52.708 --> 03:00:54.710
THAT MANDATORY OR IS THAT AT

03:00:54.777 --> 03:00:56.478
THE DISCRETION OF A JUDGE WHO

03:00:56.545 --> 03:00:57.980
THE JUDGE WOULD HAVE DISCRETION?

03:00:58.047 --> 03:00:59.014
RIGHT. SO THE JUDGE WOULD BE

03:00:59.081 --> 03:01:01.183
ABLE TO BE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, ALL

03:01:01.250 --> 03:01:03.052
THESE YOUTH OFFENDERS AND

03:01:03.118 --> 03:01:04.420
THINGS LIKE THAT, ALL THESE

03:01:04.486 --> 03:01:06.889
OFFENSES, THEY DON'T HAPPEN IN

03:01:06.956 --> 03:01:08.757
A LITTLE BOX IN A NEAT LITTLE

03:01:08.824 --> 03:01:10.226
BOX. THERE ARE DIFFERENT

03:01:10.292 --> 03:01:11.660
CIRCUMSTANCES FOR DIFFERENT

03:01:11.727 --> 03:01:13.429
CRIMES. THIS CRIME SHE'S

03:01:13.495 --> 03:01:15.965
TALKING ABOUT IS ABSOLUTELY

03:01:16.031 --> 03:01:18.834
HORRENDOUS. AND WHEN A JUDGE IS

03:01:18.901 --> 03:01:22.438
FACED WITH SOMEBODY LIKE THAT,

03:01:22.504 --> 03:01:24.306
IT MAKES SENSE. IT'S NOT ABOUT

03:01:24.373 --> 03:01:26.041
THE CONFINEMENT, IT'S ABOUT

03:01:26.108 --> 03:01:28.544
KEEPING THEM AWAY FROM THE, THE

03:01:28.611 --> 03:01:30.713
THE PUBLIC WHILE THEY FIGURE

03:01:30.779 --> 03:01:32.448
OUT IF THIS PERSON IS GOING TO

03:01:32.514 --> 03:01:34.316
GET BETTER OR NOT. AT SOME

03:01:34.383 --> 03:01:37.253
POINT THEY CAN GET BETTER AND

03:01:37.319 --> 03:01:40.456
THEN THEY CAN, THEY CAN DECIDE

03:01:40.522 --> 03:01:45.494
TO PETITION THE COURT. BUT. YOU

03:01:45.561 --> 03:01:48.764
KNOW, WE NEED WE NEED A WAY TO

03:01:48.831 --> 03:01:50.866
RECOGNIZE THAT THE VICTIMS THAT

03:01:50.933 --> 03:01:53.402
WE KEEP VICTIMIZING ON BEHALF

03:01:53.469 --> 03:01:55.871
OF, OF TRYING TO KEEP PEOPLE

03:01:55.938 --> 03:01:58.440
OUT OF PRISON, I GET IT, BUT

03:01:58.507 --> 03:02:00.576
THERE ARE CASES WHERE THERE

03:02:00.643 --> 03:02:02.011
PEOPLE ARE JUST TOO DARN

03:02:02.077 --> 03:02:04.213
DANGEROUS AND THEY NEED THEY

03:02:04.280 --> 03:02:08.117
NEED TO HAVE EXTRA, EXTRA

03:02:08.183 --> 03:02:12.087
ATTENTION PAID TO THAT. THE

03:02:12.154 --> 03:02:14.690
FAMILIES OF THESE VICTIMS. AND

03:02:14.757 --> 03:02:17.159
I KNOW ANOTHER CASE, IT'S IT'S

03:02:17.226 --> 03:02:19.428
SOMEWHAT SIMILAR TO THIS EVERY

03:02:19.495 --> 03:02:21.330
COUPLE OF YEARS THEY HAVE TO DO

03:02:21.397 --> 03:02:23.265
THIS AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN.

03:02:23.332 --> 03:02:25.801
THEIR WHOLE LIFE IS GOING TO

03:02:25.868 --> 03:02:29.438
COURT SO THAT THE PERSON THAT

03:02:29.505 --> 03:02:31.573
DID SOME HIDEOUS ACT TO THEIR

03:02:31.640 --> 03:02:33.475
LOVED ONE THAT'S NOW GONE, AND

03:02:33.542 --> 03:02:35.177
ALL THE CONSEQUENCES THAT

03:02:35.244 --> 03:02:36.912
FOLLOW GET TO MAKE THAT THE

03:02:36.979 --> 03:02:39.081
REST OF THEIR LIFE. SO THIS

03:02:39.148 --> 03:02:40.816
KIND OF PUTS IT BACK ON THE

03:02:40.883 --> 03:02:42.718
PERSON WHO IS COMMITTED, THE

03:02:42.785 --> 03:02:46.722
THE ATROCITY IN SOME CASES. AND,

03:02:46.789 --> 03:02:48.123
AND I DON'T THINK IT'S UNFAIR.

03:02:48.190 --> 03:02:50.326
I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S

03:02:50.392 --> 03:02:52.461
REASONABLE TO GIVE THE VICTIMS

03:02:52.528 --> 03:02:56.398
SOME RELIEF IN THIS PROCESS

03:02:56.465 --> 03:02:59.668
WHEN IT'S DESERVED OR WHEN IT'S

03:02:59.735 --> 03:03:01.437
APPROPRIATE. AND, AND SO

03:03:01.503 --> 03:03:03.939
THEREFORE, WHEN THE TIME COMES,

03:03:04.006 --> 03:03:06.442
I WILL BE SUPPORTING YOUR BILL.

03:03:06.508 --> 03:03:07.776
AND WITH THAT, I'LL ALLOW YOU

03:03:07.843 --> 03:03:10.846
TO CLOSE. THANK YOU. I WANT TO

03:03:10.913 --> 03:03:12.014
THANK THE ADVOCATES WHO ENGAGED

03:03:12.081 --> 03:03:14.049
WITH MY OFFICE EARLY IN THIS

03:03:14.116 --> 03:03:16.185
PROCESS. THEY SHOWED UP, THEY

03:03:16.251 --> 03:03:17.353
RAISED IMPORTANT CONCERNS, AND

03:03:17.419 --> 03:03:19.355
I LISTENED WHERE IT MADE SENSE.

03:03:19.421 --> 03:03:20.522
I TOOK AMENDMENTS BECAUSE

03:03:20.589 --> 03:03:22.758
GETTING THIS RIGHT MATTERS. AND

03:03:22.825 --> 03:03:25.227
LET ME BE CLEAR, AB 1902 IS NOT

03:03:25.294 --> 03:03:28.430
ABOUT PUNISHMENT. IT'S ABOUT

03:03:28.497 --> 03:03:29.898
RESPONSIBILITY. IT'S ABOUT

03:03:29.965 --> 03:03:31.033
ENSURING THAT THE SMALL NUMBER

03:03:31.100 --> 03:03:33.502
OF INDIVIDUALS WHO FACE AN

03:03:33.569 --> 03:03:35.304
EXTENSION DETENTION HEARING ARE

03:03:35.371 --> 03:03:36.705
PLACED IN THE MOST APPROPRIATE

03:03:36.772 --> 03:03:38.507
SETTING TO RECEIVE MEANINGFUL

03:03:38.574 --> 03:03:40.309
TREATMENT, GROUNDED IN CLINICAL

03:03:40.376 --> 03:03:42.878
JUDGMENT AND PUBLIC SAFETY. IT

03:03:42.945 --> 03:03:45.013
IS ALSO ABOUT HONORING VICTIMS,

03:03:45.080 --> 03:03:47.883
THEIR VOICES, THEIR EXPERIENCES,

03:03:47.950 --> 03:03:50.052
AND THEIR TRAUMA MUST NOT BE

03:03:50.119 --> 03:03:52.287
SIDELINED. THEY MUST BE A PART

03:03:52.354 --> 03:03:55.758
OF HOW WE DEFINE JUSTICE.

03:03:55.824 --> 03:03:57.593
MADDIE'S MOTHER, LARA, SPOKE

03:03:57.659 --> 03:03:59.027
TODAY WITH EXTRAORDINARY

03:03:59.094 --> 03:04:01.563
COURAGE. YOUR PRESENCE IS A

03:04:01.630 --> 03:04:02.998
POWERFUL REMINDER THAT LONG

03:04:03.065 --> 03:04:05.167
AFTER THE HEADLINES ARE GONE,

03:04:05.234 --> 03:04:08.036
THE PAIN REMAINS. THAT LASTING

03:04:08.103 --> 03:04:09.571
IMPACT MUST BE REFLECTED IN HOW

03:04:09.638 --> 03:04:11.974
OUR SYSTEM RESPONDS AND AT THE

03:04:12.040 --> 03:04:13.041
APPROPRIATE TIME, I

03:04:13.108 --> 03:04:16.678
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.

03:04:16.745 --> 03:04:17.880
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH

03:04:17.946 --> 03:04:19.681
FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. WHEN WE GET

03:04:19.748 --> 03:04:21.450
UP, WHEN WE HAVE A QUORUM, WE

03:04:21.517 --> 03:04:22.951
HAVE MORE MEMBERS HERE. WE HAVE

03:04:23.018 --> 03:04:24.219
THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE. WE'LL

03:04:24.286 --> 03:04:30.359
DO SO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

03:04:30.426 --> 03:04:31.560
ALL RIGHT. I'M GOING TO LET THE

03:04:31.627 --> 03:04:33.395
TWO MEMBERS BATTLE IT OUT.

03:04:33.462 --> 03:04:37.199
HERE'S THE SITUATION. THE OTHER

03:04:37.266 --> 03:04:39.334
MEMBERS BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE.

03:04:39.401 --> 03:04:41.603
TWICE. DO YOU MIND IF WE LET

03:04:41.670 --> 03:04:49.144
HIM GO? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT

03:04:49.211 --> 03:04:53.015
I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU, I

03:04:53.081 --> 03:04:54.583
APPRECIATE IT. MY WITNESS HAS

03:04:54.650 --> 03:04:56.518
TO TAKE A FLIGHT, SO THANK YOU

03:04:56.585 --> 03:04:57.753
VERY MUCH. ALL RIGHT. I'LL

03:04:57.820 --> 03:04:59.154
PROMISE THAT. I'LL BE VERY

03:04:59.221 --> 03:05:02.090
QUICK. MR. GIBSON IS PRESENTING

03:05:02.157 --> 03:05:04.693
A B 2405. I CAN EVEN SEE THAT

03:05:04.760 --> 03:05:06.361
WITHOUT MY GLASSES. I KEEP

03:05:06.428 --> 03:05:09.698
TRYING THIS. IT'S DUMB. THANK

03:05:09.765 --> 03:05:12.468
YOU VERY MUCH, MR. CHAIRMAN AND

03:05:12.534 --> 03:05:14.837
STAFF. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING

03:05:14.903 --> 03:05:18.240
ME TO PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL

03:05:18.307 --> 03:05:19.575
2405, A BILL THAT RELATES TO

03:05:19.641 --> 03:05:22.945
LAW ENFORCEMENT, PATIENT

03:05:23.011 --> 03:05:25.080
TRANSPORT. THIS BILL IS A

03:05:25.147 --> 03:05:26.849
STRAIGHTFORWARD BILL PUBLIC

03:05:26.915 --> 03:05:29.785
SAFETY AND PATIENT SAFETY, THAT

03:05:29.852 --> 03:05:31.553
ESTABLISH A CONSISTENT

03:05:31.620 --> 03:05:33.355
STATEWIDE STANDARD FOR LAW

03:05:33.422 --> 03:05:34.823
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS WHO

03:05:34.890 --> 03:05:38.060
TRANSPORT INDIVIDUALS ON A 5150

03:05:38.126 --> 03:05:40.529
HOLD. OUR HOSPITALS ARE BEING

03:05:40.596 --> 03:05:43.432
PUSHED TO THE BRINK BY MANY

03:05:43.499 --> 03:05:46.335
FACTORS. ONE OF THESE IS THE

03:05:46.401 --> 03:05:48.103
PRACTICE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT

03:05:48.170 --> 03:05:51.006
BEING OR BRINGING PATIENTS TO

03:05:51.073 --> 03:05:52.407
HOSPITALS OUTSIDE OF THEIR

03:05:52.474 --> 03:05:55.310
SERVICE JURISDICTION. AN

03:05:55.377 --> 03:05:58.180
EXAMPLE, AN EXTREME EXAMPLE OF

03:05:58.247 --> 03:05:59.681
BEING EXPERIENCED AS MARTIN

03:05:59.748 --> 03:06:01.450
LUTHER KING COMMUNITY HOSPITAL

03:06:01.517 --> 03:06:03.218
THAT IS LOCATED IN MY DISTRICT

03:06:03.285 --> 03:06:05.020
IN WATTS, SOUTH CENTRAL LOS

03:06:05.087 --> 03:06:07.189
ANGELES. THE DATA SHOWS THAT

03:06:07.256 --> 03:06:09.725
THEY HAVE HUNDREDS OF LAW

03:06:09.791 --> 03:06:11.126
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS

03:06:11.193 --> 03:06:12.227
TRANSPORTING TO MARTHA KING

03:06:12.294 --> 03:06:15.097
COMMUNITY HOSPITAL. OVER THE

03:06:15.163 --> 03:06:17.266
LAST FOUR MONTHS, INCLUDING

03:06:17.332 --> 03:06:19.067
JURISDICTIONS OUTSIDE OF ITS

03:06:19.134 --> 03:06:21.937
SERVICE AREA. IN A MEETING WITH

03:06:22.004 --> 03:06:24.139
ME AND LEADERSHIP, I'VE LEARNED

03:06:24.206 --> 03:06:26.642
THAT SOME OF THESE PATIENTS

03:06:26.708 --> 03:06:30.979
COME FROM SANTA MONICA,

03:06:31.046 --> 03:06:34.182
HOLLYWOOD, PASADENA SANTA

03:06:34.249 --> 03:06:37.786
MONICA IS ROUGHLY 20 MILES AWAY.

03:06:37.853 --> 03:06:41.056
OFFICERS PASS SEVEN HOSPITALS

03:06:41.123 --> 03:06:43.592
ALONG THE WAY. PASADENA, WHICH

03:06:43.659 --> 03:06:46.395
IS ESTIMATED 22 MILES AWAY,

03:06:46.461 --> 03:06:48.597
PAST FIVE HOSPITALS ALONG THE

03:06:48.664 --> 03:06:52.200
WAY. IT IS A. IT IS SIMPLY A

03:06:52.267 --> 03:06:54.369
BILL THAT WOULD REQUIRE LAW

03:06:54.436 --> 03:06:55.804
ENFORCEMENT TO TRANSPORT

03:06:55.871 --> 03:06:57.573
PATIENTS TO THE CLOSEST

03:06:57.639 --> 03:06:59.775
DESIGNATED FACILITY

03:06:59.841 --> 03:07:02.611
GEOGRAPHICALLY BY TIME, RATHER

03:07:02.678 --> 03:07:06.048
THAN OF TO THE NEAREST HOSPITAL

03:07:06.114 --> 03:07:09.851
OF ITS CHOICE. IN CASES WHERE A

03:07:09.918 --> 03:07:12.354
DESIGNATED FACILITY IS UNABLE

03:07:12.421 --> 03:07:15.223
TO ACCEPT THE INDIVIDUAL, THE

03:07:15.290 --> 03:07:17.025
INDIVIDUAL SHALL BE TRANSPORTED

03:07:17.092 --> 03:07:18.827
TO THE NEAREST APPROPRIATE

03:07:18.894 --> 03:07:21.363
EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT TO WHERE

03:07:21.430 --> 03:07:23.832
CUSTODY WAS FIRST ASSUMED. THIS

03:07:23.899 --> 03:07:27.102
BILL SEEKS TO ENSURE THAT THE

03:07:27.169 --> 03:07:28.503
VULNERABLE CALIFORNIANS RECEIVE

03:07:28.570 --> 03:07:32.174
A TIMELY MEDICAL CARE BY

03:07:32.240 --> 03:07:34.009
ESTABLISHING CLEAR, CONSISTENT

03:07:34.076 --> 03:07:36.778
STANDARD FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT

03:07:36.845 --> 03:07:38.213
TRANSPORT. ADDITIONALLY, IT

03:07:38.280 --> 03:07:40.082
WOULD ESTABLISH A QUARTERLY

03:07:40.148 --> 03:07:42.184
REPORT FRAMEWORK TO THE

03:07:42.250 --> 03:07:44.019
EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICE

03:07:44.086 --> 03:07:46.488
AUTHORITY ON ALL EMERGENCY

03:07:46.555 --> 03:07:49.124
DEPARTMENT TRANSPORT. WITHOUT

03:07:49.191 --> 03:07:50.826
LEGISLATION, MARTHA KING WOULD

03:07:50.892 --> 03:07:53.729
CONTINUE TO SEE DROP OFF THAT

03:07:53.795 --> 03:07:55.864
COMES FROM SANTA MONICA,

03:07:55.931 --> 03:07:58.767
PASADENA AND OTHER SURROUNDING

03:07:58.834 --> 03:08:00.569
COMMUNITIES. THIS PLACE

03:08:00.636 --> 03:08:02.371
SIGNIFICANT STRAINS ON THE

03:08:02.437 --> 03:08:05.674
LIMITED RESOURCES OF SAFETY NET

03:08:05.741 --> 03:08:07.442
HOSPITALS AND EXACERBATE

03:08:07.509 --> 03:08:08.910
ALREADY HIGH EMERGENCY

03:08:08.977 --> 03:08:10.712
DEPARTMENT UTILIZATION.

03:08:10.779 --> 03:08:13.215
ASSEMBLY BILL 2405 ADDRESSES

03:08:13.281 --> 03:08:15.684
INADEQUATE AND BUT STRENGTHENS

03:08:15.751 --> 03:08:17.886
THE OVERALL EMERGENCY CARE

03:08:17.953 --> 03:08:20.122
SYSTEMS WHILE SUPPORTING THE

03:08:20.188 --> 03:08:22.691
LONG TERM STABILITY OF SAFETY

03:08:22.758 --> 03:08:25.060
NET HOSPITALS AND IMPROVE

03:08:25.127 --> 03:08:26.862
OUTCOMES FOR PATIENTS ACROSS

03:08:26.928 --> 03:08:28.296
CALIFORNIA. SIMPLY PUT, MARTHA

03:08:28.363 --> 03:08:29.898
KING HOSPITAL IS IN TROUBLE,

03:08:29.965 --> 03:08:32.267
AND IT HAS BEEN. IT IS DEEMED A

03:08:32.334 --> 03:08:34.803
DISTRESSED HOSPITAL. TWO YEARS

03:08:34.870 --> 03:08:38.073
AGO, THIS LEGISLATURE MOVED $25.

03:08:38.140 --> 03:08:39.207
MILLION TO KEEP MARTIN LUTHER

03:08:39.274 --> 03:08:40.976
KING HOSPITAL OPEN BECAUSE A

03:08:41.043 --> 03:08:42.878
YEAR AFTERWARDS, THE HOSPITAL

03:08:42.944 --> 03:08:45.981
WOULD HAVE CLOSED IN 2000. AND

03:08:46.048 --> 03:08:47.482
I BELIEVE AND THEY CAN CORRECT

03:08:47.549 --> 03:08:50.285
ME. 2007 MARTHA KING HOSPITAL

03:08:50.352 --> 03:08:54.956
CLOSED ITS DOORS. BUT IN 2015

03:08:55.023 --> 03:08:56.491
MARTHA KING HOSPITAL ROSE FROM

03:08:56.558 --> 03:08:58.560
THE ASHES. AND IT'S A BRAND NEW

03:08:58.627 --> 03:09:00.729
HOSPITAL. BUT THEY ARE LIMITED

03:09:00.796 --> 03:09:02.064
IN TERMS OF RESOURCES. AND

03:09:02.130 --> 03:09:05.033
THERE HAVE BEEN IMPACTED BY THE

03:09:05.100 --> 03:09:06.101
EMERGENCIES. THAT'S THAT'S

03:09:06.168 --> 03:09:09.705
COMING IN FROM OTHER OTHER

03:09:09.771 --> 03:09:12.574
FACTORS. LIKE I JUST DESCRIBED

03:09:12.641 --> 03:09:14.409
PASADENA, SANTA MONICA AND

03:09:14.476 --> 03:09:16.611
OTHER CITIES BRINGING AND

03:09:16.678 --> 03:09:18.680
TRANSPORTING. 5150 THIS IS

03:09:18.747 --> 03:09:20.849
AGAIN, A SMALL SITUATION, BUT

03:09:20.916 --> 03:09:22.617
IT'S IMPACTING THE RESOURCES

03:09:22.684 --> 03:09:24.853
HERE WITH ME TO SUPPORT THIS

03:09:24.920 --> 03:09:27.055
PARTICULAR MEASURE IS THE VICE

03:09:27.122 --> 03:09:28.423
PRESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY

03:09:28.490 --> 03:09:29.524
AFFAIRS FOR MARTHA KING

03:09:29.591 --> 03:09:30.659
COMMUNITY HOSPITAL, WHO WAS

03:09:30.726 --> 03:09:32.761
SELF INTRODUCED AND ALSO A

03:09:32.828 --> 03:09:33.862
REPRESENTATIVE FROM CALIFORNIA

03:09:33.929 --> 03:09:35.797
FROM CAPITAL ADVOCATE WHO ALSO

03:09:35.864 --> 03:09:37.199
SELF INTRODUCE. PLEASE. THANK

03:09:37.265 --> 03:09:38.900
YOU VERY MUCH. EACH OF YOU HAVE

03:09:38.967 --> 03:09:39.735
TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. GOOD

03:09:39.801 --> 03:09:41.069
MORNING, MR. VICE CHAIRMAN,

03:09:41.136 --> 03:09:42.137
KRISTIE WEISS WITH CAPITAL

03:09:42.204 --> 03:09:43.572
ADVOCACY HERE IN SUPPORT ON

03:09:43.638 --> 03:09:44.639
BEHALF OF OUR CLIENT, THE

03:09:44.706 --> 03:09:46.108
MARTIN LUTHER KING JR COMMUNITY

03:09:46.174 --> 03:09:47.809
HOSPITAL. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE

03:09:47.876 --> 03:09:49.077
THE REST OF MY TIME TO DOCTOR

03:09:49.144 --> 03:09:51.012
NHÀ CÁC TO TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE,

03:09:51.079 --> 03:09:52.114
THE CHALLENGE THAT THE HOSPITAL

03:09:52.180 --> 03:09:53.949
IS FACING AND TRYING TO ADDRESS

03:09:54.015 --> 03:09:55.083
WITH THE BILL. SO SEATED, YOU

03:09:55.150 --> 03:09:56.818
GOT TWO MINUTES. ALL RIGHT.

03:09:56.885 --> 03:09:57.953
THANK YOU, VICE CHAIR. MY NAME

03:09:58.019 --> 03:09:59.888
IS DOCTOR NHÀ CÁC. I SERVE AS

03:09:59.955 --> 03:10:01.022
VICE PRESIDENT FOR GOVERNMENT

03:10:01.089 --> 03:10:01.957
AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS AT MLK

03:10:02.023 --> 03:10:03.725
COMMUNITY HOSPITAL IN SOUTH LA.

03:10:03.792 --> 03:10:05.193
OUR EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT HAS

03:10:05.260 --> 03:10:06.928
SHARED IS FACING OVERCROWDING

03:10:06.995 --> 03:10:08.730
CRISIS THAT ENDANGERS PATIENT

03:10:08.797 --> 03:10:11.967
SAFETY. WE HAVE 29 BEDS, BUT WE

03:10:12.033 --> 03:10:14.469
SEE ROUTINELY 350 PATIENTS A

03:10:14.536 --> 03:10:17.038
DAY. WE'RE ONE OF THE NATION'S

03:10:17.105 --> 03:10:18.840
BUSIEST EDS TOP 20 IN THE

03:10:18.907 --> 03:10:21.443
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. EVEN

03:10:21.510 --> 03:10:24.246
OUR CHAPEL AND OUR GIFT SHOP

03:10:24.312 --> 03:10:26.381
ARE USED FOR PATIENT CARE. OUR

03:10:26.448 --> 03:10:29.985
CHAPEL. ONE UNFAIR REASON WHY

03:10:30.051 --> 03:10:31.820
IS PATIENT DROP OFFS BY LAW

03:10:31.887 --> 03:10:33.355
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES FAR AWAY

03:10:33.421 --> 03:10:37.192
FROM OUR COMMUNITY. TIMELY

03:10:37.259 --> 03:10:38.393
ACCESS TO APPROPRIATE CARE IS A

03:10:38.460 --> 03:10:40.829
MATTER OF STATEWIDE CONCERN.

03:10:40.896 --> 03:10:43.331
EMS IS REQUIRED TO TRANSPORT

03:10:43.398 --> 03:10:44.800
PATIENTS TO THE NEAREST

03:10:44.866 --> 03:10:46.568
RECEIVING FACILITY, YET LAW

03:10:46.635 --> 03:10:48.336
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES DO NOT

03:10:48.403 --> 03:10:51.206
HAVE UNIFORM STANDARDS. THIS

03:10:51.273 --> 03:10:52.674
INCONSISTENCY IN TRANSPORT

03:10:52.741 --> 03:10:54.509
PRACTICES RESULTS IN UNSAFE

03:10:54.576 --> 03:10:57.345
DELAYS, UNFAIR DISTRIBUTION OF

03:10:57.412 --> 03:10:59.147
PATIENTS ACROSS HEALTH CARE

03:10:59.214 --> 03:11:00.582
FACILITIES, AND OVERCROWDING OF

03:11:00.649 --> 03:11:02.050
SAFETY NET HOSPITALS NOT ONLY

03:11:02.117 --> 03:11:03.819
IN LOS ANGELES BUT IN PALM

03:11:03.885 --> 03:11:05.654
SPRINGS, PALM DESERT AND

03:11:05.720 --> 03:11:07.823
SACRAMENTO AND IN SAN DIEGO. WE

03:11:07.889 --> 03:11:09.257
SEE THIS FIRSTHAND IN FOUR

03:11:09.324 --> 03:11:10.926
MONTH PERIOD FROM NOVEMBER 25TH

03:11:10.992 --> 03:11:12.928
TO FEBRUARY 26TH, WE HAD 400

03:11:12.994 --> 03:11:17.199
LAW ENFORCEMENT DROP OFFS. ON

03:11:17.265 --> 03:11:18.967
APRIL 4TH AT 12:28 A.M. A

03:11:19.034 --> 03:11:21.469
PATIENT ON A 5150 INVOLUNTARY

03:11:21.536 --> 03:11:22.671
PSYCHIATRIC HOLD WAS DROPPED

03:11:22.737 --> 03:11:24.706
OFF FROM SAN GABRIEL NEXT TO

03:11:24.773 --> 03:11:27.242
PASADENA, THE DISTANCE FROM SAN

03:11:27.309 --> 03:11:28.710
GABRIEL TO MLK COMMUNITY

03:11:28.777 --> 03:11:31.179
HOSPITAL IS 22 MILES. THIS DROP

03:11:31.246 --> 03:11:32.681
OFF WOULD HAVE HAD TO BYPASS

03:11:32.747 --> 03:11:34.783
MORE THAN 13 FACILITIES.

03:11:34.850 --> 03:11:36.218
HUNTINGTON HOSPITAL, SAN

03:11:36.284 --> 03:11:37.686
GABRIEL VALLEY HOSPITAL,

03:11:37.752 --> 03:11:39.087
MONTEREY PARK HOSPITAL,

03:11:39.154 --> 03:11:40.188
ADVENTIST HEALTH, WHITE

03:11:40.255 --> 03:11:41.957
MEMORIAL HOSPITAL, LA GENERAL

03:11:42.023 --> 03:11:45.560
HOSPITAL AND EIGHT OTHERS. FOR

03:11:45.627 --> 03:11:47.062
SOMEONE IN A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH

03:11:47.128 --> 03:11:48.463
CRISIS, THAT DELAY CAN BE

03:11:48.530 --> 03:11:50.665
DANGEROUS. MINUTES MATTER.

03:11:50.732 --> 03:11:52.100
THESE ARE PATIENTS WHO ARE

03:11:52.167 --> 03:11:53.501
DEEMED DANGEROUS TO SELF,

03:11:53.568 --> 03:11:55.370
DANGEROUS TO OTHERS OR GRAVE

03:11:55.437 --> 03:11:58.673
DISABILITY. A B 2405 FIXES THIS

03:11:58.740 --> 03:12:00.342
BY CREATING A SIMPLE COMMON

03:12:00.408 --> 03:12:01.843
SENSE AND UNIFORM STANDARD. IF

03:12:01.910 --> 03:12:02.878
LAW ENFORCEMENT TRANSPORTS

03:12:02.944 --> 03:12:05.380
SOMEONE ON A 5150 PSYCHIATRIC

03:12:05.447 --> 03:12:07.182
HOLD, THEY GO TO THE NEAREST

03:12:07.249 --> 03:12:10.785
APPROPRIATE FACILITY. THANK YOU.

03:12:10.852 --> 03:12:12.254
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR

03:12:12.320 --> 03:12:14.422
TESTIMONY TODAY. AT THIS TIME,

03:12:14.489 --> 03:12:16.658
WE'LL TAKE ANY BUDDY WHO WOULD

03:12:16.725 --> 03:12:19.461
LIKE TO EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT

03:12:19.527 --> 03:12:21.196
FOR THE BILL. COME ON UP.

03:12:21.263 --> 03:12:27.002
EXPRESS YOUR SUPPORT. IVY

03:12:27.068 --> 03:12:28.069
RODRIGUEZ WITH THE ACLU

03:12:28.136 --> 03:12:29.371
CALIFORNIA ACTION REGISTERING

03:12:29.437 --> 03:12:30.405
ITS WIENER POSITION. AND JUST

03:12:30.472 --> 03:12:31.706
WANT TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO

03:12:31.773 --> 03:12:33.308
THE AUTHOR AND HIS STAFF FOR

03:12:33.375 --> 03:12:34.342
HAVING CONVERSATIONS THROUGH

03:12:34.409 --> 03:12:35.377
HOPES THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN

03:12:35.443 --> 03:12:36.678
PATIENT AUTONOMY. THANK YOU,

03:12:36.745 --> 03:12:38.179
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

03:12:38.246 --> 03:12:39.514
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE ANY

03:12:39.581 --> 03:12:42.083
OPPOSITION WITNESSES COMING UP.

03:12:42.150 --> 03:12:45.820
YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES. LOOKS

03:12:45.887 --> 03:12:47.789
LIKE WE JUST HAVE ONE. NO, WE

03:12:47.856 --> 03:12:51.726
HAVE TWO. OKAY. EACH OF YOU

03:12:51.793 --> 03:12:58.633
HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU.

03:12:58.700 --> 03:13:00.602
THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR. ON BEHALF

03:13:00.669 --> 03:13:01.536
OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE

03:13:01.603 --> 03:13:02.971
SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION IN

03:13:03.038 --> 03:13:04.439
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL, ALSO

03:13:04.506 --> 03:13:05.507
REGISTERING ON BEHALF OF THE

03:13:05.573 --> 03:13:06.574
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS

03:13:06.641 --> 03:13:08.076
ASSOCIATION AND OPPOSITION WHO

03:13:08.143 --> 03:13:10.078
ARE UNAVOIDABLY DETAINED IN THE

03:13:10.145 --> 03:13:12.347
OTHER COMMITTEE THIS MORNING.

03:13:12.414 --> 03:13:14.115
AS WE'VE TESTIFIED BEFORE, MR.

03:13:14.182 --> 03:13:17.385
CHAIR, THIS SORT OF LAW

03:13:17.452 --> 03:13:18.486
ENFORCEMENT PRACTICE WE'RE

03:13:18.553 --> 03:13:20.588
TALKING ABOUT AS THE BILL IS

03:13:20.655 --> 03:13:21.690
AMENDED OR IS GOING TO BE

03:13:21.756 --> 03:13:23.591
AMENDED, I'M NOT SURE OF THE

03:13:23.658 --> 03:13:27.228
TIMING OF EVERYTHING, BUT THIS

03:13:27.295 --> 03:13:30.031
THIS PRACTICE AS IT RELATES TO

03:13:30.098 --> 03:13:31.766
5150S, WE JUST DON'T THINK IT

03:13:31.833 --> 03:13:33.034
SHOULD BE IN STATUTE. THERE ARE

03:13:33.101 --> 03:13:34.803
MANY FACTORS THAT MIGHT GO INTO

03:13:34.869 --> 03:13:36.838
A DETERMINATION, AS YOU KNOW,

03:13:36.905 --> 03:13:38.673
GIVEN YOUR PRIOR LIFE, AS TO

03:13:38.740 --> 03:13:40.075
WHERE A PERSON SHOULD BE

03:13:40.141 --> 03:13:41.876
TRANSPORTED. AND WE THINK THE

03:13:41.943 --> 03:13:43.678
LOCAL PROTOCOLS SHOULD BE

03:13:43.745 --> 03:13:45.880
DETERMINATIVE WITH THE

03:13:45.947 --> 03:13:46.915
AMENDMENTS. THE BILL NO LONGER

03:13:46.982 --> 03:13:48.383
INCLUDES AN EXIGENT

03:13:48.450 --> 03:13:49.451
CIRCUMSTANCES EXCEPTION. IT

03:13:49.517 --> 03:13:50.885
USED TO. IT WASN'T A VERY GOOD

03:13:50.952 --> 03:13:52.454
ONE, BUT AT LEAST IT

03:13:52.520 --> 03:13:53.421
ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE MIGHT

03:13:53.488 --> 03:13:55.156
BE EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCES THAT

03:13:55.223 --> 03:13:58.093
COULD BE ADDRESSED IN AN

03:13:58.159 --> 03:13:59.127
OFFICER'S DECISION ON WHERE

03:13:59.194 --> 03:14:01.329
THEY'RE TRANSPORTING SOMEONE

03:14:01.396 --> 03:14:03.498
WHO IS IN NEED OF 5150

03:14:03.565 --> 03:14:04.933
EVALUATION, BUT THAT'S BEEN

03:14:05.000 --> 03:14:06.735
TAKEN OUT OF THE BILL, AND

03:14:06.801 --> 03:14:08.303
THERE'S STILL NO NO DIRECTION

03:14:08.370 --> 03:14:11.506
IN THE BILL. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN

03:14:11.573 --> 03:14:13.908
THE NEAREST FACILITY MIGHT BE

03:14:13.975 --> 03:14:15.677
PHYSICALLY INACCESSIBLE? SO

03:14:15.744 --> 03:14:18.246
THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT SAYS IF

03:14:18.313 --> 03:14:19.347
THEY CAN'T BE ACCEPTED. BUT

03:14:19.414 --> 03:14:21.483
WHAT IF THERE'S A HUGE FIRE

03:14:21.549 --> 03:14:22.550
SURROUNDING THE FACILITY AND

03:14:22.617 --> 03:14:23.985
THEY CAN'T GET I MEAN, IS THAT

03:14:24.052 --> 03:14:25.620
IS THAT COVERED BY THIS? NOT

03:14:25.687 --> 03:14:26.788
CLEAR. THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH

03:14:26.855 --> 03:14:28.690
PUTTING THIS STATUTE IS EVERY

03:14:28.757 --> 03:14:30.492
SINGLE SITUATION AND ITS

03:14:30.558 --> 03:14:32.594
DYNAMIC CIRCUMSTANCES HAS TO BE

03:14:32.660 --> 03:14:35.897
ACCOUNTED FOR. AND YET IT'S NOT

03:14:35.964 --> 03:14:38.033
THE AS THE ANALYSIS NOTES, HOW

03:14:38.099 --> 03:14:40.902
ARE OUR DEPUTY SHERIFFS, FOR

03:14:40.969 --> 03:14:41.970
EXAMPLE, SUPPOSED TO KNOW IF

03:14:42.037 --> 03:14:43.438
THE FIRST, SECOND OR THIRD

03:14:43.505 --> 03:14:45.573
CHOICE IN TERMS OF WHAT'S

03:14:45.640 --> 03:14:48.076
NEAREST IS ON DIVERSION, FOR

03:14:48.143 --> 03:14:50.645
EXAMPLE, AND CAN'T ACCEPT A

03:14:50.712 --> 03:14:53.181
PATIENT. SO FOR ALL OF THOSE

03:14:53.248 --> 03:14:54.582
REASONS ABOUT THE PHYSICAL

03:14:54.649 --> 03:14:56.384
PROBLEMS WITH SAYING IN STATUTE,

03:14:56.451 --> 03:14:57.752
YOU HAVE TO TAKE SOMEONE TO

03:14:57.819 --> 03:14:59.587
THIS PLACE BECAUSE IT'S THE

03:14:59.654 --> 03:15:01.089
CLOSEST, EITHER GEOGRAPHICALLY

03:15:01.156 --> 03:15:03.091
OR BY TIME. BUT ADDITIONALLY,

03:15:03.158 --> 03:15:05.393
THE UNFUNDED MANDATE TO WRAP UP

03:15:05.460 --> 03:15:07.328
THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES

03:15:07.395 --> 03:15:08.296
REPORT QUARTERLY WERE OPPOSED

03:15:08.363 --> 03:15:10.832
TO THE BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD.

03:15:10.899 --> 03:15:12.200
GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS JULIO

03:15:12.267 --> 03:15:13.601
DELEON, A LIEUTENANT WITH THE

03:15:13.668 --> 03:15:14.169
RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF'S

03:15:14.235 --> 03:15:15.603
OFFICE. WE HAVE ONE PARTICULAR

03:15:15.670 --> 03:15:16.938
CONCERN WITH OUR COUNTY.

03:15:17.005 --> 03:15:18.106
SPECIFICALLY, WE ARE NOT LÀ. WE

03:15:18.173 --> 03:15:20.675
DON'T HAVE THAT MANY HOSPITALS

03:15:20.742 --> 03:15:23.044
IN OUR IN OUR GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.

03:15:23.111 --> 03:15:24.479
HOWEVER, THIS WOULD IMPOSE A

03:15:24.546 --> 03:15:25.947
SIGNIFICANT PROBLEM FOR OUR

03:15:26.014 --> 03:15:28.083
EAST AND DEPUTY SHERIFFS THAT

03:15:28.149 --> 03:15:30.218
WORK IN BLYTHE, COLORADO RIVER

03:15:30.285 --> 03:15:32.454
STATION AND INDIO STATION. IF

03:15:32.520 --> 03:15:34.189
WE WERE TO READ THIS BILL,

03:15:34.255 --> 03:15:35.290
LITERALLY, OUR DEPUTIES WOULD

03:15:35.356 --> 03:15:37.425
BE REQUIRED TO GO OUT OF STATE

03:15:37.492 --> 03:15:39.260
INTO PARKER, ARIZONA, BECAUSE

03:15:39.327 --> 03:15:40.695
THAT IS THE CLOSEST

03:15:40.762 --> 03:15:43.565
GEOGRAPHICAL HOSPITAL DISTANCE

03:15:43.631 --> 03:15:46.067
AND IN TIME TO OUR EASTERN END

03:15:46.134 --> 03:15:47.502
DEPUTY. SO THIS WOULD CAUSE US

03:15:47.569 --> 03:15:49.037
PEACE OFFICERS IN CALIFORNIA TO

03:15:49.104 --> 03:15:52.907
GO INTO ANOTHER STATE AND TO

03:15:52.974 --> 03:15:55.076
TRANSPORT PEOPLE INTO ANOTHER

03:15:55.143 --> 03:15:57.212
STATE. WE WOULD LOSE OUR

03:15:57.278 --> 03:15:57.979
COMMUNICATIONS WITH OUR

03:15:58.046 --> 03:15:59.447
DISPATCHERS. WE WOULD LOSE OUR

03:15:59.514 --> 03:16:01.583
PEACE OFFICER STATUS, KIND OF.

03:16:01.649 --> 03:16:02.951
I KNOW THERE ARE SOME

03:16:03.017 --> 03:16:04.786
EXCEPTIONS, BUT THERE IT'S A

03:16:04.853 --> 03:16:07.689
GRAY AREA AND WE WOULD NOT HAVE

03:16:07.755 --> 03:16:09.791
ANY BACKUP IF SOMETHING WERE TO

03:16:09.858 --> 03:16:11.593
HAPPEN ON THE WAY OR COMING

03:16:11.659 --> 03:16:13.795
BACK, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE

03:16:13.862 --> 03:16:14.529
COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTLY WITH

03:16:14.596 --> 03:16:18.133
ANY ARIZONA LAW ENFORCEMENT

03:16:18.199 --> 03:16:20.268
AGENCIES. SO THAT IS OUR

03:16:20.335 --> 03:16:21.236
SPECIFIC CONCERN. WE DID RAISE

03:16:21.302 --> 03:16:22.437
THAT WITH WE DID RAISE THOSE

03:16:22.504 --> 03:16:23.471
CONCERNS WITH THE AUTHOR

03:16:23.538 --> 03:16:25.273
YESTERDAY. I'M HOPING THAT THEY

03:16:25.340 --> 03:16:28.176
ARE ADDRESSED, BUT WE ARE

03:16:28.243 --> 03:16:29.210
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED AT THIS

03:16:29.277 --> 03:16:31.579
POINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AT

03:16:31.646 --> 03:16:33.148
THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE ANY OTHER

03:16:33.214 --> 03:16:35.383
OPPOSITION. COME ON UP TO THE

03:16:35.450 --> 03:16:36.484
MICROPHONE. STATE YOUR

03:16:36.551 --> 03:16:38.620
OPPOSITION CHAIR. MEMBERS, ON

03:16:38.686 --> 03:16:39.754
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA POLICE

03:16:39.821 --> 03:16:40.622
CHIEFS ASSOCIATION, I

03:16:40.688 --> 03:16:41.689
APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE

03:16:41.756 --> 03:16:43.324
AUTHOR, BUT STILL IN OPPOSITION

03:16:43.391 --> 03:16:45.627
POSITION AT THIS TIME AND OUR

03:16:45.693 --> 03:16:46.728
COMMENTS WITH THE SHERIFFS.

03:16:46.794 --> 03:16:50.999
THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. FRANCO,

03:16:51.065 --> 03:16:52.333
HERE ON BEHALF OF THE

03:16:52.400 --> 03:16:53.434
CALIFORNIA FIRE CHIEFS

03:16:53.501 --> 03:16:54.135
ASSOCIATION AND THE FIRE

03:16:54.202 --> 03:16:56.671
DISTRICT ASSOCIATION AND

03:16:56.738 --> 03:17:00.241
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. GOOD

03:17:00.308 --> 03:17:01.309
MORNING. GOOD MORNING. I'M

03:17:01.376 --> 03:17:03.478
DOCTOR ABDALATI. ON BEHALF OF

03:17:03.545 --> 03:17:06.714
MYSELF, I RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE

03:17:06.781 --> 03:17:08.516
THIS UNLESS AMENDED JUST TO

03:17:08.583 --> 03:17:11.052
HELP SOME PROTECTIONS FOR IN

03:17:11.119 --> 03:17:13.221
HOSPITALS AND ACUTE CARE

03:17:13.288 --> 03:17:14.355
SETTINGS. AND I'D BE HAPPY TO

03:17:14.422 --> 03:17:15.490
SPEAK WITH THE AUTHOR ABOUT

03:17:15.557 --> 03:17:19.794
THAT. THANK YOU. MR. CHAIR. ON

03:17:19.861 --> 03:17:20.895
BEHALF OF THE LEAGUE OF

03:17:20.962 --> 03:17:22.730
CALIFORNIA CITIES AND KIND OF A

03:17:22.797 --> 03:17:24.399
TWEENER POSITION, WE JUST HAVE

03:17:24.465 --> 03:17:25.400
CONCERNS. WE VERY MUCH

03:17:25.466 --> 03:17:26.534
APPRECIATE THE RECENT

03:17:26.601 --> 03:17:27.669
AMENDMENTS TAKING IT OUT OF THE

03:17:27.735 --> 03:17:29.404
EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES ACT,

03:17:29.470 --> 03:17:30.838
BUT STILL HAVE SIGNIFICANT

03:17:30.905 --> 03:17:31.906
CONCERNS ABOUT THE LAW

03:17:31.973 --> 03:17:33.007
ENFORCEMENT MANDATES IN THE

03:17:33.074 --> 03:17:36.211
BILL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

03:17:36.277 --> 03:17:38.012
WITH THAT, I WILL BRING IT BACK

03:17:38.079 --> 03:17:43.117
TO THE DAIS. I HAVE A COLLEAGUE.

03:17:43.184 --> 03:17:44.185
COLLEAGUE. WOULD YOU LIKE TO

03:17:44.252 --> 03:17:45.620
COMMENT? DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS?

03:17:45.687 --> 03:17:47.422
I DO NOT, BUT HAVE WE

03:17:47.488 --> 03:17:48.957
ESTABLISHED QUORUM? NO. WELL,

03:17:49.023 --> 03:17:50.258
WE HAVE NOT. I THOUGHT

03:17:50.325 --> 03:17:51.726
ELECTIONS TOOK A LONG TIME.

03:17:51.793 --> 03:17:54.229
EVEN LONGER. OKAY. HAPPY TO

03:17:54.295 --> 03:17:55.697
REMOVE IT ONCE WE HAVE A QUORUM.

03:17:55.763 --> 03:17:59.267
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE

03:17:59.334 --> 03:18:01.903
SOME EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH

03:18:01.970 --> 03:18:03.972
THIS AREA, WITH YOUR HOSPITAL,

03:18:04.038 --> 03:18:07.542
WITH THE ENTIRE SOUTH BAY, AND

03:18:07.609 --> 03:18:09.177
GOING ALL THE WAY UP INTO NORTH

03:18:09.244 --> 03:18:10.245
HOLLYWOOD AND THE HOSPITALS.

03:18:10.311 --> 03:18:12.247
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UCLA AND

03:18:12.313 --> 03:18:15.116
THEATERS AND ALL OF THOSE BEING

03:18:15.183 --> 03:18:16.918
DIVERTED WITH CRITICAL PATIENTS

03:18:16.985 --> 03:18:19.454
IN THE BACK. IT'S PART OF THE

03:18:19.520 --> 03:18:23.424
SYSTEM. WHY? AND I DO I GET IT,

03:18:23.491 --> 03:18:24.626
SOME HOSPITALS FEEL LIKE

03:18:24.692 --> 03:18:26.094
THEY'RE GETTING DUMPED ON AND

03:18:26.160 --> 03:18:28.429
MAYBE YOU ARE, BUT THERE'S A

03:18:28.496 --> 03:18:30.231
BUNCH OF OTHER REASONS THAT WE

03:18:30.298 --> 03:18:31.766
NEED TO FERRET OUT BEFORE WE

03:18:31.833 --> 03:18:33.101
KNOW WHY THEY'RE GETTING DUMPED

03:18:33.167 --> 03:18:35.336
ON. AND SOME OF THEM ARE

03:18:35.403 --> 03:18:37.438
THERE'S SOME HOSPITAL ERS THAT

03:18:37.505 --> 03:18:40.341
ARE CONSTANTLY, CONSTANTLY

03:18:40.408 --> 03:18:43.211
BEING SATURATED, AND THEY'RE

03:18:43.278 --> 03:18:46.814
CLOSE TO SATURATION. THEY HAVE

03:18:46.881 --> 03:18:48.249
SECURITY ISSUES. THEY HAVE

03:18:48.316 --> 03:18:49.684
WHATEVER ISSUES YOU HAVE. SOME

03:18:49.751 --> 03:18:51.519
HOSPITALS ARE MUCH SMALLER THAN

03:18:51.586 --> 03:18:53.054
OTHER HOSPITALS AND DON'T HAVE

03:18:53.121 --> 03:18:57.258
THE CAPABILITY OF TAKING A 5150.

03:18:57.325 --> 03:18:59.894
SO SO THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH

03:18:59.961 --> 03:19:04.132
THE BILL IS HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S

03:19:04.198 --> 03:19:06.968
THE EMS IS THE ONE WHO TRIES TO

03:19:07.035 --> 03:19:08.403
DETERMINE WHAT THESE CATCHMENT

03:19:08.469 --> 03:19:12.006
AREAS ARE AND ALL OF THAT. THIS

03:19:12.073 --> 03:19:16.110
SEEMS LIKE WE'RE IT'S SOMETHING

03:19:16.177 --> 03:19:17.779
THAT SHOULD BE SOLVED IN THAT

03:19:17.845 --> 03:19:20.381
REALM SO THAT SOMETHING FAIR

03:19:20.448 --> 03:19:23.885
AND ADEQUATE CAN BE DETERMINED

03:19:23.951 --> 03:19:26.054
WITH THE HOSPITALS THEMSELVES,

03:19:26.120 --> 03:19:27.488
BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT

03:19:27.555 --> 03:19:31.426
ULTIMATELY GET THESE PATIENTS.

03:19:31.492 --> 03:19:32.927
SO, YOU KNOW, I DO HAVE

03:19:32.994 --> 03:19:34.062
CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. I'M NOT

03:19:34.128 --> 03:19:35.763
QUITE SURE WHICH WAY I GO, IF I

03:19:35.830 --> 03:19:37.932
GO AT ALL ON, ON THIS BECAUSE

03:19:37.999 --> 03:19:40.468
OF I REALLY THINK THE HOSPITALS

03:19:40.535 --> 03:19:42.203
NEED TO WEIGH IN AND FIGURE OUT

03:19:42.270 --> 03:19:44.439
A SYSTEM WHERE THAT NOT NOT

03:19:44.505 --> 03:19:46.541
ONLY JUST INCLUDES EMS AND, YOU

03:19:46.607 --> 03:19:47.875
KNOW, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PART

03:19:47.942 --> 03:19:53.181
OF THIS, BUT ALSO PD AND MAKING

03:19:53.247 --> 03:19:56.417
SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE

03:19:56.484 --> 03:19:57.752
THEY'RE TAKING PEOPLE THAT

03:19:57.819 --> 03:19:59.287
AREN'T JUST GOING TO GET TURNED

03:19:59.354 --> 03:20:01.689
OUT INTO THE STREET IMMEDIATELY

03:20:01.756 --> 03:20:03.858
AND BECOME SOMEBODY ELSE'S.

03:20:03.925 --> 03:20:05.360
5150 AND, AND PART OF IT COULD

03:20:05.426 --> 03:20:07.228
BE WHERE THE NEXT LOCATION IS,

03:20:07.295 --> 03:20:08.563
WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO AFTER

03:20:08.629 --> 03:20:12.734
THE ER. IF THEY'RE CLOSE TO A

03:20:12.800 --> 03:20:13.901
PSYCHIATRIC FACILITY THAT CAN

03:20:13.968 --> 03:20:17.405
TAKE THEM. SO YEAH, IT'S A,

03:20:17.472 --> 03:20:19.240
IT'S A, IT'S A HARD ISSUE TO

03:20:19.307 --> 03:20:21.042
DEAL WITH. AND IT ALWAYS HAS

03:20:21.109 --> 03:20:23.244
BEEN. THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON. I

03:20:23.311 --> 03:20:25.680
MEAN THIS IS PRIME TIME IN THE

03:20:25.747 --> 03:20:29.283
IN THE 80S. SO SO IT'S IT'S

03:20:29.350 --> 03:20:30.718
SOMETHING I'M, YOU KNOW,

03:20:30.785 --> 03:20:32.186
ACUTELY FAMILIAR WITH. AND I

03:20:32.253 --> 03:20:33.354
DON'T KNOW THAT I HAVE THE

03:20:33.421 --> 03:20:35.056
ANSWERS FOR YOU. SO ANYWAY,

03:20:35.123 --> 03:20:36.524
WITH THAT, YOU MAY CLOSE. THANK

03:20:36.591 --> 03:20:39.394
YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE MY

03:20:39.460 --> 03:20:41.496
WITNESSES FOR COMING AND FOR

03:20:41.562 --> 03:20:42.597
REPRESENTING MARTIN LUTHER KING

03:20:42.663 --> 03:20:44.766
HOSPITAL. I JUST WANT TO SAY,

03:20:44.832 --> 03:20:45.900
THE DOCTOR SAID THAT MARTIN

03:20:45.967 --> 03:20:50.138
LUTHER KING HAS 29 BEDS. AND SO

03:20:50.204 --> 03:20:52.373
AND I ALSO IN MY OPENING

03:20:52.440 --> 03:20:53.541
COMMENTS, TALKED ABOUT MARTIN

03:20:53.608 --> 03:20:55.943
KING HOSPITAL CLOSING. VERY

03:20:56.010 --> 03:20:57.345
SELDOM DO WE HAVE A HOSPITAL

03:20:57.412 --> 03:21:00.982
THAT CLOSED OPEN UP AGAIN IN

03:21:01.048 --> 03:21:01.983
CALIFORNIA OR ANY OTHER

03:21:02.049 --> 03:21:03.885
HOSPITAL. AND SO THIS IS AN

03:21:03.951 --> 03:21:05.319
ANOMALY, RIGHT. AND SO WE WANT

03:21:05.386 --> 03:21:06.721
TO MAKE SURE THAT MARTIN KING

03:21:06.788 --> 03:21:09.657
HOSPITAL DOORS REMAIN OPEN AND

03:21:09.724 --> 03:21:10.658
CONTINUE TO OPEN FOR

03:21:10.725 --> 03:21:13.961
GENERATIONS TO COME. AND TO THE

03:21:14.028 --> 03:21:16.097
REPRESENTATIVE OF RIVERSIDE

03:21:16.164 --> 03:21:18.266
DEPUTY SHERIFFS WHO CAME,

03:21:18.332 --> 03:21:20.768
DEPUTY LIEUTENANT, EXCUSE ME,

03:21:20.835 --> 03:21:23.004
WHO CAME? WE JUST HAD A

03:21:23.070 --> 03:21:24.005
CONVERSATION, MY OFFICE

03:21:24.071 --> 03:21:25.406
YESTERDAY. CERTAINLY. TAKING

03:21:25.473 --> 03:21:27.675
THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, WE

03:21:27.742 --> 03:21:28.843
WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK,

03:21:28.910 --> 03:21:30.578
EVEN OVER THE SUMMER BREAK, TO

03:21:30.645 --> 03:21:32.680
GET TO A NEUTRAL POSITION. AND

03:21:32.747 --> 03:21:33.781
ALSO, HOPEFULLY YOU'LL BE ABLE

03:21:33.848 --> 03:21:35.283
TO SUPPORT AND ALSO WITH OTHER

03:21:35.349 --> 03:21:36.951
LAW ENFORCEMENT, WE WANT THE

03:21:37.018 --> 03:21:39.153
OPPORTUNITY TO WORK. BUT AGAIN,

03:21:39.220 --> 03:21:40.922
MY MOTIVATION IN THESE LAST SIX

03:21:40.988 --> 03:21:42.857
MONTHS THAT I HAVE IN OFFICE IS

03:21:42.924 --> 03:21:45.626
TO MAKING SURE THAT, ONE, THIS

03:21:45.693 --> 03:21:46.527
BILL GETS TO THE GOVERNOR'S

03:21:46.594 --> 03:21:48.329
DESK AND SIGNS THE LAW. I'LL BE

03:21:48.396 --> 03:21:49.464
DAMNED IF I'M GOING TO HAVE

03:21:49.530 --> 03:21:51.399
MARTIN HOSPITAL CLOSED UNDER MY

03:21:51.466 --> 03:21:53.301
WATCH, UNDER MY TERM. I SAW

03:21:53.367 --> 03:21:55.002
THIS HOSPITAL CLOSED BEFORE,

03:21:55.069 --> 03:21:56.237
AND I'LL BE DAMNED IF I'M GOING

03:21:56.304 --> 03:21:57.972
TO HAVE MARTIN LUTHER KING

03:21:58.039 --> 03:21:59.607
HOSPITAL CLOSED AGAIN. I SAW

03:21:59.674 --> 03:22:01.142
PEOPLE LOSE THEIR LIVES. I SAW

03:22:01.209 --> 03:22:03.978
THIS HOSPITAL SCRAMBLE UNDER

03:22:04.045 --> 03:22:06.514
COVID AND MANY PEOPLE DIED AND

03:22:06.581 --> 03:22:08.516
WAS NOT ABLE TO GET THE KIND OF

03:22:08.583 --> 03:22:09.684
CARE IT NEEDS. THIS HOSPITAL

03:22:09.750 --> 03:22:11.919
HAS TO REMAIN OPEN FOR

03:22:11.986 --> 03:22:13.087
GENERATIONS TO CONTINUE TO

03:22:13.154 --> 03:22:14.589
SERVE BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE IN

03:22:14.655 --> 03:22:15.423
THE COMMUNITY AND THE

03:22:15.490 --> 03:22:17.291
SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. IT

03:22:17.358 --> 03:22:19.126
SERVES OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S

03:22:19.193 --> 03:22:22.697
THERE FOR A PURPOSE, AND WE

03:22:22.763 --> 03:22:24.131
UNDERSTAND WHAT I ARTICULATED

03:22:24.198 --> 03:22:25.967
AND WHAT THE DOCTOR ARTICULATED

03:22:26.033 --> 03:22:29.170
TO HAVE PATIENTS, EVEN 5150,

03:22:29.237 --> 03:22:31.305
BEING TRANSPORTED FROM SANTA

03:22:31.372 --> 03:22:34.308
MONICA, FROM PASADENA TO COME

03:22:34.375 --> 03:22:36.377
TO MARTIN HOSPITAL, AND THEY

03:22:36.444 --> 03:22:37.812
PASSING OF OTHER HOSPITAL, THEY

03:22:37.879 --> 03:22:40.348
ARE WELL ABLE AND QUALIFIED TO

03:22:40.414 --> 03:22:42.650
PROVIDE AND SERVICE INDIVIDUALS

03:22:42.717 --> 03:22:45.052
WITH 5150. THEY PASSING UP

03:22:45.119 --> 03:22:47.889
INDIVIDUAL HOSPITALS, SEVEN AND

03:22:47.955 --> 03:22:50.057
13 OTHER HOSPITALS THAT CAN

03:22:50.124 --> 03:22:51.893
PROVIDE THE SAME KIND OF CARE

03:22:51.959 --> 03:22:55.496
TO 5150. WHY ARE THEY NOT

03:22:55.563 --> 03:22:56.864
TAKING THOSE INDIVIDUALS? THERE

03:22:56.931 --> 03:22:59.767
ARE 52 IN THE COUNTY OF LOS

03:22:59.834 --> 03:23:01.569
ANGELES THAT ARE QUALIFIED

03:23:01.636 --> 03:23:04.772
CENTERS TO HANDLE 5150

03:23:04.839 --> 03:23:06.641
PSYCHIATRIC PATIENTS, BUT

03:23:06.707 --> 03:23:08.743
THEY'RE SPECIFICALLY GOING TO

03:23:08.809 --> 03:23:10.044
MARTIN LUTHER KING HOSPITAL

03:23:10.111 --> 03:23:12.046
THAT ARE NOT EVEN NOT EVEN

03:23:12.113 --> 03:23:13.447
QUALIFIED. I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT

03:23:13.514 --> 03:23:15.383
EVEN CERTIFIED, BUT THEY'RE

03:23:15.449 --> 03:23:18.553
TAKING UP 29 BEDS. AND THE

03:23:18.619 --> 03:23:20.288
RESOURCES THEY'RE TAKING UP TO

03:23:20.354 --> 03:23:21.355
HANDLE MARTIN LUTHER KING

03:23:21.422 --> 03:23:23.524
HOSPITAL WILL NOT TURN ANY

03:23:23.591 --> 03:23:24.992
PATIENTS AWAY, BUT THEY'RE

03:23:25.059 --> 03:23:26.761
DRAINING THE RESOURCES OF

03:23:26.827 --> 03:23:28.696
CRITICALLY ILL PEOPLE THAT NEED

03:23:28.763 --> 03:23:30.431
THOSE SERVICES. I RESPECTFULLY

03:23:30.498 --> 03:23:31.732
ASK FOR A VOTE AT THE PROPER

03:23:31.799 --> 03:23:33.634
TIME. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AS

03:23:33.701 --> 03:23:35.536
YOU CAN SEE, WE STILL DO NOT

03:23:35.603 --> 03:23:36.737
HAVE A QUORUM. AND SO WE WILL

03:23:36.804 --> 03:23:38.606
BE TAKING THIS UP WHEN WE

03:23:38.673 --> 03:23:39.707
ESTABLISH A QUORUM, AND WE'LL

03:23:39.774 --> 03:23:41.642
BE VOTING ON ALL BILLS AT THAT

03:23:41.709 --> 03:23:43.644
TIME. THANK YOU. DO WE NEED. DO

03:23:43.711 --> 03:23:58.826
YOU. DO? ALL RIGHT. I'VE BEEN

03:23:58.893 --> 03:24:00.227
TOLD THAT SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING

03:24:00.294 --> 03:24:02.163
TO HAVE TO EAT LUNCH, BUT WE'RE

03:24:02.229 --> 03:24:03.898
GOING TO TAKE THE FINAL TWO

03:24:03.965 --> 03:24:04.632
MEMBERS HERE. WE'RE GOING TO

03:24:04.699 --> 03:24:06.233
TAKE. YOU HAVE TWO BILLS. I

03:24:06.300 --> 03:24:08.502
BELIEVE. SHE HAD COME IN AND

03:24:08.569 --> 03:24:09.704
CHECKED IN A LITTLE EARLIER.

03:24:09.770 --> 03:24:14.041
SORRY. AND THEN. AND THEN WE'RE

03:24:14.108 --> 03:24:17.912
GOING TO RECESS. GOOD MORNING,

03:24:17.979 --> 03:24:19.313
MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I AM

03:24:19.380 --> 03:24:22.183
PROUD TO PRESENT AB 1886, WHICH

03:24:22.249 --> 03:24:24.051
ENSURES THAT ALL YOUTH ON

03:24:24.118 --> 03:24:25.453
NONCUSTODIAL PROBATION,

03:24:25.519 --> 03:24:26.921
REGARDLESS OF THEIR HOUSING

03:24:26.988 --> 03:24:28.122
SITUATION, ARE TREATED FAIRLY

03:24:28.189 --> 03:24:29.790
AND GIVEN CLEAR TIMELINES FOR

03:24:29.857 --> 03:24:32.693
WHEN PROBATION SHOULD END. THIS

03:24:32.760 --> 03:24:34.128
BILL CLOSES A GAP IN CURRENT

03:24:34.195 --> 03:24:35.396
LAW SO THAT YOUTH IN

03:24:35.463 --> 03:24:36.030
OUT-OF-HOME PLACEMENTS RECEIVE

03:24:36.097 --> 03:24:37.698
THE SAME PROTECTIONS AS YOUTH

03:24:37.765 --> 03:24:40.234
LIVING AT HOME, HELPING PREVENT

03:24:40.301 --> 03:24:41.302
UNNECESSARILY LONG PROBATION

03:24:41.369 --> 03:24:43.437
TERMS. RIGHT NOW, THERE IS A

03:24:43.504 --> 03:24:45.606
TWO TIERED SYSTEM. YOUTH WHO

03:24:45.673 --> 03:24:47.041
REMAIN AT HOME BENEFIT FROM

03:24:47.108 --> 03:24:48.275
CLEAR TIMELINES AND REGULAR

03:24:48.342 --> 03:24:49.910
COURT REVIEW, WHILE YOUTH IN

03:24:49.977 --> 03:24:51.379
OUT-OF-HOME PLACEMENTS DO NOT

03:24:51.445 --> 03:24:53.514
RECEIVE THOSE SAME PROTECTIONS.

03:24:53.581 --> 03:24:54.615
BECAUSE OF THIS GAP, YOUNG

03:24:54.682 --> 03:24:56.417
PEOPLE CAN STAY ON PROBATION

03:24:56.484 --> 03:24:58.319
LONGER THAN NECESSARY, OFTEN

03:24:58.386 --> 03:24:59.654
DUE TO FACTORS OUTSIDE OF THEIR

03:24:59.720 --> 03:25:01.455
CONTROL, SUCH AS PLACEMENT

03:25:01.522 --> 03:25:03.124
DECISIONS OR SYSTEM LIMITATIONS

03:25:03.190 --> 03:25:05.059
RATHER THAN ACTUAL BEHAVIOR.

03:25:05.126 --> 03:25:06.861
THIS DISPROPORTIONATELY IMPACTS

03:25:06.927 --> 03:25:07.928
VULNERABLE COMMUNITIES AND

03:25:07.995 --> 03:25:09.363
INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD OF

03:25:09.430 --> 03:25:11.532
DEEPER SYSTEM INVOLVEMENT

03:25:11.599 --> 03:25:14.068
WITHOUT IMPROVING OUTCOMES. IT

03:25:14.135 --> 03:25:15.503
UNDERMINES THE GOAL OF

03:25:15.569 --> 03:25:16.937
REHABILITATION AND CREATES

03:25:17.004 --> 03:25:18.005
INEQUITIES IN HOW YOUTH ARE

03:25:18.072 --> 03:25:20.441
TREATED. AB 1886 WOULD HELP FIX

03:25:20.508 --> 03:25:21.642
THIS ISSUE BY APPLYING CLEAR

03:25:21.709 --> 03:25:23.044
STANDARDS AND ESTABLISHING A 12

03:25:23.110 --> 03:25:24.879
MONTH BASELINE FOR PROBATION

03:25:24.945 --> 03:25:25.980
FOR YOUTH IN OUT-OF-HOME

03:25:26.047 --> 03:25:26.981
PLACEMENTS. UNLESS A COURT

03:25:27.048 --> 03:25:28.816
CLEARLY FINDS A SPECIFIC REASON,

03:25:28.883 --> 03:25:31.018
IT SHOULD CONTINUE THIS ALSO.

03:25:31.085 --> 03:25:33.254
THIS BILL ALSO REQUIRES REGULAR

03:25:33.320 --> 03:25:34.255
COURT REVIEW HEARINGS TO ASSESS

03:25:34.321 --> 03:25:36.023
A YOUNG PERSON'S PROGRESS AND

03:25:36.090 --> 03:25:37.058
ENSURES THAT PROBATION

03:25:37.124 --> 03:25:38.893
CONDITIONS ARE REASONABLE, AGE

03:25:38.959 --> 03:25:40.728
APPROPRIATE AND FOCUSED ON

03:25:40.795 --> 03:25:41.729
REHABILITATION. WITH ME HERE

03:25:41.796 --> 03:25:43.564
TODAY TO TESTIFY ARE KARINA

03:25:43.631 --> 03:25:44.765
ZAVALA AND JOSIAH BÀN. ONLY

03:25:44.832 --> 03:25:46.834
WITH DAPHNE? DAFNA GOES ON,

03:25:46.901 --> 03:25:48.703
EXCUSE ME AS A WITNESS. ALL

03:25:48.769 --> 03:25:49.837
RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

03:25:49.904 --> 03:25:51.639
EACH OF YOU, YOU HAVE TWO

03:25:51.706 --> 03:25:52.807
MINUTES. IF YOU CAN ADHERE TO

03:25:52.873 --> 03:25:53.908
THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT. THANK

03:25:53.974 --> 03:25:55.643
YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING,

03:25:55.710 --> 03:25:56.944
VICE CHAIR. MEMBERS OF THE

03:25:57.011 --> 03:25:58.713
COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS JOSIAH

03:25:58.779 --> 03:26:00.014
BENONI, REPRESENTING CALIFORNIA

03:26:00.081 --> 03:26:01.982
YOUTH CONNECTION, ALSO KNOWN AS

03:26:02.049 --> 03:26:04.085
PSYCH. I'M HERE TODAY IN

03:26:04.151 --> 03:26:05.553
SUPPORT AND STRONG SUPPORT OF

03:26:05.619 --> 03:26:09.156
AB 1886. THE OPPOSITION FROM

03:26:09.223 --> 03:26:10.391
PROBATION AND THE COURTS ARGUES

03:26:10.458 --> 03:26:12.293
THAT A 12 MONTH PRESUMPTION IS

03:26:12.359 --> 03:26:13.828
TOO RIGID FOR DUAL STATUS

03:26:13.894 --> 03:26:15.229
FOSTER YOUTH, BUT THEIR

03:26:15.296 --> 03:26:16.697
ARGUMENTS FAIL TO HOLD UP UNDER

03:26:16.764 --> 03:26:19.233
SCRUTINY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT

03:26:19.300 --> 03:26:20.668
VULNERABLE FOSTER YOUTH, PRE

03:26:20.735 --> 03:26:22.436
VETTED AND DETERMINED BY THE

03:26:22.503 --> 03:26:23.971
COURTS AS SAFE TO RETURN TO

03:26:24.038 --> 03:26:26.073
THEIR COMMUNITIES, BEING

03:26:26.140 --> 03:26:27.108
PENALIZED BY THE CRIMINAL

03:26:27.174 --> 03:26:28.609
JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR

03:26:28.676 --> 03:26:29.477
CIRCUMSTANCES ENTIRELY OUTSIDE

03:26:29.543 --> 03:26:31.512
OF THEIR CONTROL. HOUSING

03:26:31.579 --> 03:26:33.647
STATUS EXTENDED OPEN ENDED

03:26:33.714 --> 03:26:35.049
PROBATION DOES NOT REHABILITATE

03:26:35.116 --> 03:26:36.517
FOSTER YOUTH. IT INADVERTENTLY

03:26:36.584 --> 03:26:38.319
TRAPS THEM. THIS POLICY IS

03:26:38.385 --> 03:26:39.687
CLOSE TO HOME FOR ME. MY MOTHER

03:26:39.754 --> 03:26:41.555
WAS A DUAL STATUS YOUTH. SHE

03:26:41.622 --> 03:26:43.324
WAS ACTUALLY IN AN ADULT PRISON

03:26:43.390 --> 03:26:45.860
AS A MINOR WHEN I WAS BORN

03:26:45.926 --> 03:26:46.961
BEFORE HER 18TH BIRTHDAY,

03:26:47.027 --> 03:26:49.430
TRAPPED IN AN AIMLESS JUVENILE

03:26:49.497 --> 03:26:50.898
FRAMEWORK WITH NO CLEAR END

03:26:50.965 --> 03:26:52.666
DATE, SHE HAD NO INTENTION OF

03:26:52.733 --> 03:26:53.801
COMPLYING WITH HER JUVENILE

03:26:53.868 --> 03:26:55.202
PROBATION. PRIOR TO HER FIRST

03:26:55.269 --> 03:26:57.037
PRISON SENTENCE, THE SYSTEM

03:26:57.104 --> 03:26:58.072
ACTUALLY INCENTIVIZED HER TO

03:26:58.139 --> 03:26:59.840
ATTEMPT TO EVADE LAW

03:26:59.907 --> 03:27:01.675
ENFORCEMENT UNTIL SHE TURNED 18.

03:27:01.742 --> 03:27:03.844
RATHER THAN ENGAGE WITH IT FOR

03:27:03.911 --> 03:27:05.246
COMPLETION DECADES LATER, WHEN

03:27:05.312 --> 03:27:06.514
SHE ENTERED THE ADULT SYSTEM,

03:27:06.580 --> 03:27:08.182
SHE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED

03:27:08.249 --> 03:27:09.350
PAROLE IN JUST 13 MONTHS

03:27:09.416 --> 03:27:11.385
BECAUSE THERE WAS A CLEAR,

03:27:11.452 --> 03:27:13.220
INCENTIVIZED GOAL. SHE HASN'T

03:27:13.287 --> 03:27:14.989
RETURNED TO INCARCERATION IN

03:27:15.055 --> 03:27:17.158
FOUR YEARS. SURVEILLANCE IS NOT

03:27:17.224 --> 03:27:18.592
SUPPORT. WE SHOULD ZOOM OUT AND

03:27:18.659 --> 03:27:19.794
CONSIDER HOW RELIANT THE STATE

03:27:19.860 --> 03:27:21.829
IS ON USING THE JUSTICE SYSTEM

03:27:21.896 --> 03:27:23.964
TO MANAGE CHILD WELFARE. DUAL

03:27:24.031 --> 03:27:25.432
STATUS YOUTH DON'T NEED TO LIVE

03:27:25.499 --> 03:27:26.867
UNDER CONSTANT THREAT OF

03:27:26.934 --> 03:27:27.935
INCARCERATION JUST TO RECEIVE

03:27:28.002 --> 03:27:29.804
TRAUMA THERAPY OR BEHAVIORAL

03:27:29.870 --> 03:27:31.238
HEALTH SERVICES IF THEY'RE

03:27:31.305 --> 03:27:33.007
ALREADY UNDER MASSIVE CHILD

03:27:33.073 --> 03:27:35.509
WELFARE OVERSIGHT, ADDING AN

03:27:35.576 --> 03:27:36.977
EXTRA LAYER OF PUNITIVE

03:27:37.044 --> 03:27:38.412
PROBATION SURVEILLANCE IS

03:27:38.479 --> 03:27:39.814
REDUNDANT. COUNTERPRODUCTIVE,

03:27:39.880 --> 03:27:41.615
CREATES A DISCRIMINATORY TWO

03:27:41.682 --> 03:27:44.151
TIER SYSTEM AND FUELS A

03:27:44.218 --> 03:27:44.885
MULTI-GENERATIONAL CYCLE OF

03:27:44.952 --> 03:27:46.687
JUSTICE, INVOLVEMENT AND FOSTER

03:27:46.754 --> 03:27:48.522
CARE. BREAKING THESE CYCLES

03:27:48.589 --> 03:27:49.824
REQUIRES SYSTEMS TO GIVE YOUNG

03:27:49.890 --> 03:27:51.358
PEOPLE A GENUINE OPPORTUNITY TO

03:27:51.425 --> 03:27:53.160
THRIVE INDEPENDENTLY. THIS BILL

03:27:53.227 --> 03:27:54.628
TAKES OUR JUVENILE FRAMEWORK

03:27:54.695 --> 03:27:56.397
FROM ENDLESS SURVEILLANCE TO

03:27:56.463 --> 03:27:58.933
OUTCOMES DRIVEN, GOAL ORIENTED

03:27:58.999 --> 03:28:00.134
JUSTICE. THANK YOU. AND I'LL

03:28:00.201 --> 03:28:01.435
ADD THAT AT THE STATE AND

03:28:01.502 --> 03:28:03.971
FEDERAL LEVELS, THE RESPECTIVE

03:28:04.038 --> 03:28:05.005
EXECUTIVE BRANCHES HAVE

03:28:05.072 --> 03:28:06.507
RECENTLY TAKEN ACTION AND

03:28:06.574 --> 03:28:09.343
EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR FOSTER

03:28:09.410 --> 03:28:10.477
YOUTH. GREAT. THANK YOU VERY

03:28:10.544 --> 03:28:11.579
MUCH. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

03:28:11.645 --> 03:28:15.149
THANK YOU. HELLO. GOOD MORNING,

03:28:15.216 --> 03:28:16.383
CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE SENATE.

03:28:16.450 --> 03:28:18.252
MY NAME IS KARINA AND I AM A

03:28:18.319 --> 03:28:20.521
PSYCH LEADER WITH SAN DIEGO

03:28:20.588 --> 03:28:22.690
YOUTH SAN DIEGO ENDING GIRLS

03:28:22.756 --> 03:28:23.824
INCARCERATION. AFTER SPENDING

03:28:23.891 --> 03:28:25.526
MORE THAN THREE YEARS IN FOSTER

03:28:25.593 --> 03:28:26.994
CARE AND ON PROBATION. I CAN

03:28:27.061 --> 03:28:29.530
TELL YOU THIS THE SYSTEMS DID

03:28:29.597 --> 03:28:31.332
NOT MAKE MY LIFE MORE STABLE.

03:28:31.398 --> 03:28:32.499
INSTEAD, IT OFTEN FELT LIKE THE

03:28:32.566 --> 03:28:33.834
RULES WERE ALWAYS CHANGING AND

03:28:33.901 --> 03:28:36.003
NEVER IN MY FAVOR. EVERY TIME I

03:28:36.070 --> 03:28:37.705
HAD A NEW PLACEMENT OR A NEW

03:28:37.771 --> 03:28:39.240
PROBATION OFFICER, THE

03:28:39.306 --> 03:28:41.075
EXPECTATION EXPECTATIONS

03:28:41.141 --> 03:28:42.576
CHANGED. THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS

03:28:42.643 --> 03:28:43.978
TO GET IN TROUBLE, BUT NOT

03:28:44.044 --> 03:28:45.679
ENOUGH SUPPORT TO HELP ME

03:28:45.746 --> 03:28:48.215
SUCCEED. IT FELT LIKE I WAS

03:28:48.282 --> 03:28:49.350
ALWAYS BEING TESTED INSTEAD OF

03:28:49.416 --> 03:28:51.151
BEING HELPED BECAUSE I WAS ON

03:28:51.218 --> 03:28:52.119
PROBATION. MANY PLACEMENTS, DID

03:28:52.186 --> 03:28:53.687
NOT WANT DID NOT WANT TO TAKE

03:28:53.754 --> 03:28:55.189
ME. INSTEAD OF MOVING FORWARD,

03:28:55.256 --> 03:28:56.523
I BECAME STUCK IN A CYCLE OF

03:28:56.590 --> 03:28:57.858
BEING PLACED IN INSTITUTIONS

03:28:57.925 --> 03:28:59.760
AND GOING IN AND OUT OF CUSTODY.

03:28:59.827 --> 03:29:01.562
IT FELT LIKE I WAS BEING SENT

03:29:01.629 --> 03:29:03.097
BACK TO THE STARTING LINE OVER

03:29:03.163 --> 03:29:05.833
AND OVER AGAIN. YOUTH IN FOSTER

03:29:05.900 --> 03:29:07.334
CARE ALREADY FACED SO MANY

03:29:07.401 --> 03:29:08.769
CHALLENGES AND OBSTACLES. WE

03:29:08.836 --> 03:29:11.272
NEED STABILITY, SUPPORT AND

03:29:11.338 --> 03:29:13.440
PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN US. WE

03:29:13.507 --> 03:29:15.209
NEED OPPORTUNITIES TO BUILD OUR

03:29:15.276 --> 03:29:17.344
FUTURES, NOT SYSTEMS THAT ARE

03:29:17.411 --> 03:29:19.880
Kò, THAT KEEP THAT, KEEP

03:29:19.947 --> 03:29:23.918
HOLDING US BACK. AB 1886 GIVES

03:29:23.984 --> 03:29:25.686
YOUTH A GOAL THAT THEY CAN

03:29:25.753 --> 03:29:27.855
ACTUALLY REACH. IT HELPS ENSURE

03:29:27.922 --> 03:29:30.324
FOSTER YOUTH THAT FOSTER THAT

03:29:30.391 --> 03:29:32.526
FOSTER YOUTH ARE NOT KEPT UNDER

03:29:32.593 --> 03:29:33.594
SUPERVISION LONGER THAN

03:29:33.661 --> 03:29:34.728
NECESSARY, AND GIVES THEM A

03:29:34.795 --> 03:29:35.829
REAL CHANCE TO MOVE FORWARD

03:29:35.896 --> 03:29:38.299
WITH THEIR LIVES. SUPERVISION

03:29:38.365 --> 03:29:40.734
ALONE DOES NOT EMPOWER YOUTH

03:29:40.801 --> 03:29:42.236
SUPPORT, TRUST AND OPPORTUNITY.

03:29:42.303 --> 03:29:44.004
DO I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR

03:29:44.071 --> 03:29:46.540
SUPPORT ON AB 1886? THANK YOU.

03:29:46.607 --> 03:29:47.641
THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR

03:29:47.708 --> 03:29:49.076
TESTIMONY TODAY. ALL RIGHT. AT

03:29:49.143 --> 03:29:52.379
THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE ANY OTHER

03:29:52.446 --> 03:29:53.447
WITNESSES THAT WOULD LIKE TO

03:29:53.514 --> 03:29:55.950
NOT WITNESSES. I'M SORRY, IS

03:29:56.016 --> 03:29:57.718
GOING TO BE NOON. AND YOU KNOW

03:29:57.785 --> 03:29:59.486
WHAT TO DO ON BEHALF OF

03:29:59.553 --> 03:30:00.587
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND

03:30:00.654 --> 03:30:04.591
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. ABBY

03:30:04.658 --> 03:30:05.659
RODRIGUEZ REGISTERING PROUD

03:30:05.726 --> 03:30:07.061
SUPPORT FOR ACLU CALIFORNIA

03:30:07.127 --> 03:30:08.228
ACTION AND A SAN FRANCISCO

03:30:08.295 --> 03:30:10.998
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE.

03:30:11.065 --> 03:30:12.066
MICHAEL HENNING, ON BEHALF OF

03:30:12.132 --> 03:30:13.200
THE CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE OF

03:30:13.267 --> 03:30:14.969
CHILD AND FAMILY SERVICES IN

03:30:15.035 --> 03:30:19.573
SUPPORT. MARCO GEORGE ON BEHALF

03:30:19.640 --> 03:30:21.141
OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC

03:30:21.208 --> 03:30:22.910
DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION AND

03:30:22.977 --> 03:30:26.914
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. SOPHIA

03:30:26.981 --> 03:30:27.948
NEWHOUSE ROUND FOR THE LOS

03:30:28.015 --> 03:30:29.383
ANGELES COUNTY PUBLIC

03:30:29.450 --> 03:30:32.019
DEFENDER'S UNION LOCAL 148 WE

03:30:32.086 --> 03:30:36.690
SUPPORT. NUNEZ. I HAVE A LONG

03:30:36.757 --> 03:30:37.758
LIST OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'LL

03:30:37.825 --> 03:30:39.493
JUST READ OFF IN SUPPORT

03:30:39.560 --> 03:30:40.527
INITIATE JUSTICE, THE

03:30:40.594 --> 03:30:42.329
CALIFORNIA YOUTH JUSTICE

03:30:42.396 --> 03:30:44.932
JUSTICE PROJECT, THE CHILDREN'S

03:30:44.999 --> 03:30:46.300
PARTNERSHIP, THE COLLECTIVE FOR

03:30:46.367 --> 03:30:47.801
LIBERTY, LIBERTY AND LAWYERING,

03:30:47.868 --> 03:30:49.169
THE PEACE AND JUSTICE LAW

03:30:49.236 --> 03:30:51.372
CENTER, UNDERGROUND, GRIT

03:30:51.438 --> 03:30:53.474
UNIVERSITY, THAT POPULAR UPWARD

03:30:53.540 --> 03:30:55.309
TOGETHER, URBAN PEACE INSTITUTE.

03:30:55.376 --> 03:30:56.744
URBAN. PEACE MOVEMENT,

03:30:56.810 --> 03:30:58.579
YOUNGSTERS FOR CHANGE. YOUTH.

03:30:58.645 --> 03:30:59.947
ALLIANCE, YOUTH FOR INNOCENCE,

03:31:00.014 --> 03:31:02.216
YOUTH JUSTICE COALITION, YOUTH

03:31:02.282 --> 03:31:03.951
JUSTICE EDUCATION CLINIC AT

03:31:04.018 --> 03:31:05.352
LOYOLA LAW SCHOOL AND YOUTH

03:31:05.419 --> 03:31:10.057
LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE. THANK YOU.

03:31:10.124 --> 03:31:12.893
KARINA RODRIGUEZ. I ALSO HAVE A

03:31:12.960 --> 03:31:14.495
LONG LIST OF SUPPORT

03:31:14.561 --> 03:31:16.563
ORGANIZATIONS. NUESTRA CAUSA

03:31:16.630 --> 03:31:17.998
ORANGEWOOD, ORANGEWOOD

03:31:18.065 --> 03:31:19.099
FOUNDATION, PEACE, UNITED

03:31:19.166 --> 03:31:20.901
CHURCH OF CHRIST, SANTA CRUZ,

03:31:20.968 --> 03:31:23.070
RESTORE 180 RESTORING HOPE,

03:31:23.137 --> 03:31:24.204
CALIFORNIA, RIVERSIDE. ALL OF

03:31:24.271 --> 03:31:26.240
US ARE NONE. RUBICAM PROGRAMS.

03:31:26.306 --> 03:31:28.409
SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S

03:31:28.475 --> 03:31:29.843
OFFICE, SANTA. CRUZ. BARRIOS.

03:31:29.910 --> 03:31:32.046
UNIDOS. SILICON VALLEY DEBUG.

03:31:32.112 --> 03:31:33.447
STARTING OVER. INC. ALL IN

03:31:33.514 --> 03:31:37.785
SUPPORT. GOOD MORNING. ERIC

03:31:37.851 --> 03:31:39.987
HENDERSON, PROUD CO-SPONSOR ON

03:31:40.054 --> 03:31:41.455
BEHALF OF THE ELLA BAKER CENTER

03:31:41.522 --> 03:31:42.856
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, ALSO

03:31:42.923 --> 03:31:44.591
REGISTERING SUPPORT FOR A NEW

03:31:44.658 --> 03:31:46.693
PATH. ALIANZA FOR OPPORTUNITY.

03:31:46.760 --> 03:31:48.662
ALL OF US ARE NONE, AND ALL OF

03:31:48.729 --> 03:31:50.397
US ARE NONE. SACRAMENTO ALL

03:31:50.464 --> 03:31:52.900
YOUTH ARE SACRED. ALLIANCE OF

03:31:52.966 --> 03:31:54.701
CALIFORNIANS FOR COMMUNITY

03:31:54.768 --> 03:31:58.272
EMPOWERMENT, ACTION, ACE ACTION

03:31:58.338 --> 03:31:59.773
ANGELES BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND

03:31:59.840 --> 03:32:01.942
REENTRY CONSULTING, ANTI POLICE

03:32:02.009 --> 03:32:03.744
TERROR PROJECT, ASIAN

03:32:03.811 --> 03:32:05.212
SOLIDARITY COLLECTIVE. BACK TO

03:32:05.279 --> 03:32:07.681
THE START. BAY PEACE. BEND THE

03:32:07.748 --> 03:32:10.217
ARC. JEWISH ACTION. CALIFORNIA

03:32:10.284 --> 03:32:11.852
BOOKS AND BUCKETS. BRIDGES OF

03:32:11.919 --> 03:32:14.488
HOPE. CALIFORNIA. BROTHERHOOD.

03:32:14.555 --> 03:32:16.356
CRUSADE AND BUILDING HEALTHY.

03:32:16.423 --> 03:32:20.260
COMMUNITIES. MONTEREY. COUNTY.

03:32:20.327 --> 03:32:21.728
HØI. LARA RODOLFI. PROUD

03:32:21.795 --> 03:32:23.130
CO-SPONSOR AND STRONG SUPPORT

03:32:23.197 --> 03:32:26.400
ALSO REGISTERING SUPPORT FOR

03:32:26.467 --> 03:32:28.168
FAMILIES. INSPIRING REENTRY AND

03:32:28.235 --> 03:32:29.636
UNIFICATION FOR EVERYONE.

03:32:29.703 --> 03:32:31.438
FREEDOM FOR YOUTH. FRESNO

03:32:31.505 --> 03:32:33.040
BARRIOS UNIDOS FRIENDS

03:32:33.107 --> 03:32:34.675
COMMITTEE ON LEGISLATION OF

03:32:34.741 --> 03:32:36.844
CALIFORNIA GLIDE. FOUNDATION

03:32:36.910 --> 03:32:39.012
FOR JUSTICE. INITIATE JUSTICE,

03:32:39.079 --> 03:32:40.781
INSIDE OUT, RIDERS INTEGRAL

03:32:40.848 --> 03:32:42.983
COMMUNITY SOLUTIONS INSTITUTE.

03:32:43.050 --> 03:32:44.384
JESSIE'S PLACE, ORGANIZATION,

03:32:44.451 --> 03:32:46.553
JUSTICE TO JOBS COALITION, LA

03:32:46.620 --> 03:32:48.388
DEFENSA LEGAL SERVICES. FOR.

03:32:48.455 --> 03:32:50.524
PRISONERS WITH CHILDREN, AND

03:32:50.591 --> 03:32:54.128
MILPA COLLECTIVE. GOOD MORNING

03:32:54.194 --> 03:32:55.195
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. KELLY

03:32:55.262 --> 03:32:56.063
O'BRIEN WITH THE WESTERN CENTER

03:32:56.130 --> 03:32:57.698
ON LAW AND POVERTY, ALSO HERE

03:32:57.764 --> 03:32:59.166
ON BEHALF OF CALIFORNIA

03:32:59.233 --> 03:33:00.267
ALLIANCE OF CHILD AND FAMILY

03:33:00.334 --> 03:33:01.802
SERVICES, CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS

03:33:01.869 --> 03:33:03.103
FOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE,

03:33:03.170 --> 03:33:04.938
CALIFORNIA COALITION FOR WOMEN

03:33:05.005 --> 03:33:06.707
PRISONERS, CALIFORNIA COMMUNITY

03:33:06.773 --> 03:33:07.808
FOUNDATION, CALIFORNIA SCHOOL

03:33:07.875 --> 03:33:09.243
BASED HEALTH ALLIANCE.

03:33:09.309 --> 03:33:10.677
CALIFORNIA UNITE CALIFORNIANS

03:33:10.744 --> 03:33:12.479
UNITED FOR RESPONSIBLE BUDGET.

03:33:12.546 --> 03:33:13.947
CANCEL THE CONTRACT, CANCEL THE

03:33:14.014 --> 03:33:15.349
CONTRACT. ANTELOPE VALLEY

03:33:15.415 --> 03:33:17.151
CENTER ON JUVENILE AND CRIMINAL

03:33:17.217 --> 03:33:18.952
JUSTICE. CHILDREN NOW. CHILDREN

03:33:19.019 --> 03:33:20.754
DEFENSE FUND. COALITION OF

03:33:20.821 --> 03:33:22.189
CALIFORNIA. STATE. TRIBES.

03:33:22.256 --> 03:33:24.024
COLEMAN. ADVOCATES. COMMUNITY.

03:33:24.091 --> 03:33:26.160
INTERVENTIONS. COMMUNITY. WORKS.

03:33:26.226 --> 03:33:26.860
COMMUNITY. CONSUMER.

03:33:26.927 --> 03:33:29.029
ASSOCIATION OF CALIFORNIA.

03:33:29.096 --> 03:33:30.497
COURAGE, CALIFORNIA. ELLA BAKER,

03:33:30.564 --> 03:33:31.565
CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND

03:33:31.632 --> 03:33:33.167
CHILD POVERTY, EQUALITY,

03:33:33.233 --> 03:33:35.903
CALIFORNIA, AND FAIR CHANCE

03:33:35.969 --> 03:33:39.439
PROJECT. THANK YOU. LIZ BLOOM

03:33:39.506 --> 03:33:40.874
GUTIERREZ, ON BEHALF OF SMART

03:33:40.941 --> 03:33:45.946
JUSTICE CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT.

03:33:46.013 --> 03:33:47.414
MONNING. THANK YOU. LAURA

03:33:47.481 --> 03:33:49.516
O'CONNOR FROM COMPASSIONATE

03:33:49.583 --> 03:33:51.351
CALIFORNIA, ALSO REPRESENTING

03:33:51.418 --> 03:33:53.153
COMPASSIONATE CAPITAL CORRIDOR

03:33:53.220 --> 03:33:54.655
INSPIRED COLLABORATIONS. AND ON

03:33:54.721 --> 03:33:57.491
BEHALF OF ELDER JACKSON, INSIDE

03:33:57.558 --> 03:33:58.725
CIRCLE AND THE NEW HEALING HOME

03:33:58.792 --> 03:34:00.727
IN SACRAMENTO. THANK YOU.

03:34:00.794 --> 03:34:04.698
STRONG SUPPORT. JOSHUA JACOBY

03:34:04.765 --> 03:34:08.268
WITH HERE REPRESENTING OUR

03:34:08.335 --> 03:34:09.703
ORGANIZERS AND LEADERS

03:34:09.770 --> 03:34:11.171
CURRENTLY INCARCERATED IN SAN

03:34:11.238 --> 03:34:12.606
FRANCISCO COUNTY JAIL AND THEIR

03:34:12.673 --> 03:34:13.740
FAMILIES THAT WE WORK WITH AS

03:34:13.807 --> 03:34:16.910
WELL. SO PROUD SUPPORT. STRONG

03:34:16.977 --> 03:34:20.447
SUPPORT ISRAEL. WE ARE WITH THE

03:34:20.514 --> 03:34:21.615
CALIFORNIA ALLIANCE FOR YOUTH

03:34:21.682 --> 03:34:23.083
AND COMMUNITY JUSTICE. I TOO

03:34:23.150 --> 03:34:24.785
HAD A LONG LIST, BUT IN THE

03:34:24.851 --> 03:34:25.919
INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL SAY WE

03:34:25.986 --> 03:34:27.821
ARE NOW OVER 50 COMMUNITY BASED

03:34:27.888 --> 03:34:28.989
ORGANIZATIONS IN 24 COUNTIES

03:34:29.056 --> 03:34:31.458
AND GROWING AND ABSOLUTELY IN

03:34:31.525 --> 03:34:32.859
VERY STRONG SUPPORT. AND THANK

03:34:32.926 --> 03:34:35.128
YOU ALL. I HOPE I APPRECIATE

03:34:35.195 --> 03:34:36.730
THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY.

03:34:36.797 --> 03:34:38.165
AT THIS TIME, WE'LL TAKE ANY

03:34:38.232 --> 03:34:40.334
LEAD WITNESSES IN OPPOSITION TO

03:34:40.400 --> 03:34:42.836
THE BILL. COME ON UP. HAVE A

03:34:42.903 --> 03:34:44.371
SEAT. YOU EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES.

03:34:44.438 --> 03:34:53.347
THANK YOU. WE ARE OFFICIALLY AT.

03:34:53.413 --> 03:34:55.082
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND

03:34:55.148 --> 03:34:57.251
MEMBERS DANIEL SANCHEZ, ON

03:34:57.317 --> 03:34:58.385
BEHALF OF THE CHIEF PROBATION

03:34:58.452 --> 03:35:00.087
OFFICERS OF CALIFORNIA IN

03:35:00.153 --> 03:35:02.656
OPPOSITION TO AB 1886. LAST

03:35:02.723 --> 03:35:04.091
YEAR, THE CHIEF PROBATION

03:35:04.157 --> 03:35:07.094
OFFICERS OPPOSED AB 1376 BONTA,

03:35:07.160 --> 03:35:08.762
WHICH WHEN IMPLEMENTED IN JUST

03:35:08.829 --> 03:35:10.631
THIS JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, SET

03:35:10.697 --> 03:35:12.366
A 12 MONTH MANDATORY

03:35:12.432 --> 03:35:14.134
PRESUMPTION FOR DISCHARGE FROM

03:35:14.201 --> 03:35:16.703
COURT FOR WARDS OF THE COURT,

03:35:16.770 --> 03:35:18.138
INCLUDING THOSE ADJUDICATED OF

03:35:18.205 --> 03:35:19.473
HAVING COMMITTED SOME OF THE

03:35:19.539 --> 03:35:21.742
MOST SERIOUS AND VIOLENT 707 B

03:35:21.808 --> 03:35:23.243
OFFENSES SUCH AS MURDER, RAPE

03:35:23.310 --> 03:35:24.945
AND KIDNAPING. I THINK IT'S

03:35:25.012 --> 03:35:26.013
IMPORTANT TO NOTE SEAHAWKS

03:35:26.079 --> 03:35:27.447
OPPOSITION WAS PREMISED ON THE

03:35:27.514 --> 03:35:28.882
FACT THAT THE BILL SET A

03:35:28.949 --> 03:35:30.350
PRESUMPTION OF DISCHARGE AND

03:35:30.417 --> 03:35:31.418
REMOVED THE COURT'S ABILITY TO

03:35:31.485 --> 03:35:33.253
MAKE INDIVIDUALIZED

03:35:33.320 --> 03:35:34.688
DETERMINATIONS. THE FOCUS

03:35:34.755 --> 03:35:36.089
REALLY SHOULD BE ON ARE THEY

03:35:36.156 --> 03:35:37.924
MEETING THEIR ADDRESSING THEIR

03:35:37.991 --> 03:35:40.060
CRIMINOGENIC NEEDS, MEETING

03:35:40.127 --> 03:35:42.229
REHABILITATIVE GOALS THAT THAT

03:35:42.296 --> 03:35:44.765
ALLOW FOR SAFE RETURN INTO THE

03:35:44.831 --> 03:35:46.833
COMMUNITY? I DO WANT TO NOTE

03:35:46.900 --> 03:35:48.335
THE CURRENT SYSTEM, AS HAS BEEN

03:35:48.402 --> 03:35:49.803
STATED, IS NOT AN ENDLESS

03:35:49.870 --> 03:35:50.871
PROBATION SYSTEM. THERE'S

03:35:50.937 --> 03:35:52.673
ALREADY BEEN STRUCTURE TO THESE

03:35:52.739 --> 03:35:54.841
TYPES OF HEARINGS AND DECISIONS.

03:35:54.908 --> 03:35:57.010
BUT DESPITE AMENDMENTS TAKEN ON

03:35:57.077 --> 03:35:58.111
JUNE 16TH, THE BILL WOULD

03:35:58.178 --> 03:35:59.546
CONTINUE TO UNDO LIMITED BUT

03:35:59.613 --> 03:36:00.681
NECESSARY EXEMPTIONS THAT WERE

03:36:00.747 --> 03:36:04.551
PART OF LAST YEAR'S BILL.

03:36:04.618 --> 03:36:05.686
IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT FOSTER

03:36:05.752 --> 03:36:06.720
YOUTH HAVE AN EXISTING

03:36:06.787 --> 03:36:08.021
FRAMEWORK OF FOCUSED APPROACHES

03:36:08.088 --> 03:36:09.823
THAT ARE TAKEN BY THE COURT AND

03:36:09.890 --> 03:36:11.758
RELATED TO THE TYPES OF REVIEW

03:36:11.825 --> 03:36:13.927
HEARINGS THEY HAVE COORDINATED

03:36:13.994 --> 03:36:15.762
SERVICES, MANY SUPPORTS AND

03:36:15.829 --> 03:36:17.164
THINGS THAT SURROUND THEIR

03:36:17.230 --> 03:36:18.999
SPECIFIC AND COMPLEX NEEDS. WE

03:36:19.066 --> 03:36:20.400
AGREE THAT THERE ARE. THOSE

03:36:20.467 --> 03:36:22.569
THINGS ARE VERY IMPORTANT, BUT

03:36:22.636 --> 03:36:24.738
AT THE SAME TIME, THERE'S ALSO

03:36:24.805 --> 03:36:25.939
THINGS THAT NEED TO BE LOOKED

03:36:26.006 --> 03:36:27.741
AT IN RELATION TO HOW THESE

03:36:27.808 --> 03:36:29.176
HEARINGS AND HOW THOSE SERVICES

03:36:29.242 --> 03:36:31.211
ARE MET AND ADDRESSED FOR THIS

03:36:31.278 --> 03:36:33.714
SPECIFIC POPULATION. LASTLY,

03:36:33.780 --> 03:36:35.449
DESPITE THE REMOVAL OF THE S Y,

03:36:35.515 --> 03:36:37.317
T F LANGUAGE FROM THE BILL AND

03:36:37.384 --> 03:36:38.719
REVERTING THAT TO LANGUAGE LAST

03:36:38.785 --> 03:36:40.187
YEAR, IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE

03:36:40.253 --> 03:36:41.621
THAT THAT LANGUAGE DOES NOT

03:36:41.688 --> 03:36:44.157
MAKE IT CLEAR THAT SERVING A

03:36:44.224 --> 03:36:46.159
COMMITMENT TO AN S, Y, T, F IS

03:36:46.226 --> 03:36:49.229
IN FACT EXEMPTED, AND THE

03:36:49.296 --> 03:36:51.331
LANGUAGE THAT IS AROUND S, Y, T

03:36:51.398 --> 03:36:54.000
F IN CURRENT LAW IS DIFFERENT

03:36:54.067 --> 03:36:55.702
THAN THAT AROUND JUVENILE HALLS,

03:36:55.769 --> 03:36:57.804
CAMPS AND RANCHES. SO IN

03:36:57.871 --> 03:36:58.905
CLOSING, YOU KNOW, THIS BILL

03:36:58.972 --> 03:37:01.041
REALLY IS NOT NECESSARILY

03:37:01.108 --> 03:37:02.843
ADDRESSING A GAP. THE SPECIFIC

03:37:02.909 --> 03:37:03.944
POPULATIONS THAT WERE PUT INTO

03:37:04.010 --> 03:37:05.746
THIS BILL WERE THOSE THAT WERE

03:37:05.812 --> 03:37:07.547
EXPRESSLY EXCLUDED LAST YEAR.

03:37:07.614 --> 03:37:08.815
AND SO WE THINK THOSE ARE THERE

03:37:08.882 --> 03:37:10.117
ARE MANY IMPORTANT

03:37:10.183 --> 03:37:11.118
CONSIDERATIONS AROUND THAT. FOR

03:37:11.184 --> 03:37:12.786
THOSE REASONS, WE ASK FOR YOUR

03:37:12.853 --> 03:37:14.388
VOTE. THANK YOU. NEXT. SPEAKER

03:37:14.454 --> 03:37:16.590
TWO MINUTES, MR. VICE CHAIR AND

03:37:16.656 --> 03:37:18.058
SENATORS CLIFF COSTA, TODAY ON

03:37:18.125 --> 03:37:19.659
BEHALF OF THE JUVENILE COURT

03:37:19.726 --> 03:37:21.061
JUDGES OF CALIFORNIA, WHICH IS

03:37:21.128 --> 03:37:22.629
A SECTION OF THE CALIFORNIA

03:37:22.696 --> 03:37:25.232
JUDGES ASSOCIATION. FIRST, I'D

03:37:25.298 --> 03:37:27.200
LIKE TO THANK THE ASSEMBLYWOMAN

03:37:27.267 --> 03:37:29.202
FOR HER DIRECT ENGAGEMENT WITH

03:37:29.269 --> 03:37:31.338
US AND FOR THE AMENDMENTS THAT

03:37:31.405 --> 03:37:32.839
WERE TAKEN EARLIER THIS MONTH

03:37:32.906 --> 03:37:35.008
IN JUNE. THEY DO ADDRESS SOME

03:37:35.075 --> 03:37:36.710
OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE

03:37:36.777 --> 03:37:39.246
JUVENILE COURT JUDGES DO HAVE

03:37:39.312 --> 03:37:43.917
WITH AB 1886. GENERALLY, WE

03:37:43.984 --> 03:37:46.787
AGREE WITH CPUC'S CLARIFICATION

03:37:46.853 --> 03:37:48.955
AS IT RELATES TO THE SYTF

03:37:49.022 --> 03:37:50.757
COMMITMENT AND WILL BE WORKING

03:37:50.824 --> 03:37:52.225
WITH THE AUTHOR AND THE

03:37:52.292 --> 03:37:53.593
SPONSORS ON TRYING TO ADDRESS

03:37:53.660 --> 03:37:55.896
THAT CONCERN. WHAT'S LEFT IN

03:37:55.962 --> 03:37:59.065
THE BILL IS WHAT, FRANKLY

03:37:59.132 --> 03:38:00.467
RELATES TO OUT-OF-HOME

03:38:00.534 --> 03:38:02.269
PLACEMENT YOUTH. THIS IS AN

03:38:02.335 --> 03:38:03.737
ISSUE THAT THE JUVENILE COURT

03:38:03.804 --> 03:38:05.138
JUDGES OF CALIFORNIA AND THE

03:38:05.205 --> 03:38:06.940
CALIFORNIA JUDGES ASSOCIATION

03:38:07.007 --> 03:38:08.742
REACHED AN AGREEMENT ON LAST

03:38:08.809 --> 03:38:11.311
YEAR'S BILL WITH ASSEMBLYWOMAN

03:38:11.378 --> 03:38:13.447
BONTA AND SOME OF THE SPONSORS

03:38:13.513 --> 03:38:15.982
OF THIS ORGAN OF THIS BILL,

03:38:16.049 --> 03:38:17.451
THERE HAS BEEN AN. ON THE

03:38:17.517 --> 03:38:19.553
RECORD, I WILL SAY THERE WAS A

03:38:19.619 --> 03:38:21.021
MISCOMMUNICATION LAST YEAR.

03:38:21.087 --> 03:38:22.789
THERE WAS. THE SPONSORS OF THE

03:38:22.856 --> 03:38:24.524
BILL SENT A COMMUNICATION TO

03:38:24.591 --> 03:38:26.026
THE CALIFORNIA JUDGES

03:38:26.092 --> 03:38:27.828
ASSOCIATION, WHICH NEVER WAS

03:38:27.894 --> 03:38:29.663
RECEIVED BY THE JUDGES

03:38:29.729 --> 03:38:31.531
ASSOCIATION. WE CUT A DEAL, AND

03:38:31.598 --> 03:38:33.233
THE DEAL WE CUT WAS

03:38:33.300 --> 03:38:34.701
SPECIFICALLY TO COME BACK THIS

03:38:34.768 --> 03:38:36.503
YEAR TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT

03:38:36.570 --> 03:38:38.271
THEIR SUPPORT WITNESSES

03:38:38.338 --> 03:38:39.706
TESTIFIED. AND THAT IS AS IT

03:38:39.773 --> 03:38:42.275
RELATES TO THIS BILL AND FOSTER

03:38:42.342 --> 03:38:43.243
YOUTH, THE JUVENILE COURT

03:38:43.310 --> 03:38:45.445
JUDGES OF CALIFORNIA ARE

03:38:45.512 --> 03:38:46.913
COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO WORK

03:38:46.980 --> 03:38:49.816
ON THE FOSTER CARE YOUTH ISSUE

03:38:49.883 --> 03:38:52.652
IN THIS BILL AND ARE AND WILL

03:38:52.719 --> 03:38:53.820
CONTINUE TO ENGAGE WITH THE

03:38:53.887 --> 03:38:56.256
AUTHOR AND THE SPONSORS ON THAT.

03:38:56.323 --> 03:38:57.724
BUT THE BILL THAT IS IN FRONT

03:38:57.791 --> 03:38:59.893
OF YOU IS MUCH BROADER THAN

03:38:59.960 --> 03:39:01.661
JUST FOSTER YOUTH AND IMPACTS

03:39:01.728 --> 03:39:03.864
ALL OUT-OF-HOME PLACEMENT YOUTH

03:39:03.930 --> 03:39:05.599
THAT ARE ON PROBATION. AND FROM

03:39:05.665 --> 03:39:07.400
OUR PERSPECTIVE, THAT IS A

03:39:07.467 --> 03:39:08.869
GROUP THAT IS JUST,

03:39:08.935 --> 03:39:11.037
UNFORTUNATELY, TOO BROAD. WE

03:39:11.104 --> 03:39:12.839
CONTINUE TO REMAIN IN

03:39:12.906 --> 03:39:13.940
OPPOSITION. WE RESPECTFULLY

03:39:14.007 --> 03:39:15.342
REQUEST YOUR NO VOTE TODAY.

03:39:15.408 --> 03:39:16.810
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

03:39:16.877 --> 03:39:18.245
AND ANY OTHER OPPOSITION

03:39:18.311 --> 03:39:19.779
WITNESSES, OUR OPPOSITION TO

03:39:19.846 --> 03:39:21.414
THE BILL. COME ON UP. STATE

03:39:21.481 --> 03:39:23.016
YOUR NAME. ORGANIZATION. KIM

03:39:23.083 --> 03:39:24.451
STONE STONE ADVOCACY ON BEHALF

03:39:24.518 --> 03:39:25.785
OF THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT

03:39:25.852 --> 03:39:27.254
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION AND VERY

03:39:27.320 --> 03:39:28.755
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. THANKS.

03:39:28.822 --> 03:39:30.524
THANK YOU. ANY OTHERS? IF NOT,

03:39:30.590 --> 03:39:34.094
I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE DÍAS.

03:39:34.160 --> 03:39:36.196
ANY QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? NO.

03:39:36.263 --> 03:39:38.064
OKAY. YOU MAY CLOSE. THANK YOU.

03:39:38.131 --> 03:39:39.933
I'M A FOSTER MOM, SO IT IS

03:39:40.000 --> 03:39:40.967
REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE

03:39:41.034 --> 03:39:42.702
THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE

03:39:42.769 --> 03:39:44.838
SPECIFICALLY ARE LOOKING AT THE

03:39:44.905 --> 03:39:46.506
OPPORTUNITY TO EXEMPT OR BRING

03:39:46.573 --> 03:39:48.508
IN FOSTER YOUTH TO WHAT WE

03:39:48.575 --> 03:39:49.943
AGREED ON LAST YEAR WITH

03:39:50.010 --> 03:39:52.112
ASSEMBLYMEMBER BILL. I THINK

03:39:52.178 --> 03:39:53.914
WHAT I WANT TO BE MINDFUL OF IS,

03:39:53.980 --> 03:39:55.582
AS WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH

03:39:55.649 --> 03:39:56.850
THE JUVENILE COURT JUDGES, THAT

03:39:56.917 --> 03:39:59.286
WE DID HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC

03:39:59.352 --> 03:40:01.054
CONVERSATION ABOUT SYTS BEING

03:40:01.121 --> 03:40:02.589
AN ISSUE AND WANTING TO PULL

03:40:02.656 --> 03:40:04.491
THEM OUT. AND WHEN WE DID PULL

03:40:04.558 --> 03:40:05.659
THEM OUT, THEN THERE WAS THIS

03:40:05.725 --> 03:40:07.494
IDEA THAT THAT WAS STILL TOO

03:40:07.561 --> 03:40:08.762
BROAD. AND SO I JUST REALLY DO

03:40:08.828 --> 03:40:10.497
AM COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO

03:40:10.564 --> 03:40:11.898
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION AND

03:40:11.965 --> 03:40:13.333
WANT TO REALLY BE THOUGHTFUL

03:40:13.400 --> 03:40:15.001
ABOUT TALKING EVEN DIRECTLY TO

03:40:15.068 --> 03:40:16.002
THE YOUNG PEOPLE THEMSELVES.

03:40:16.069 --> 03:40:17.137
WE'VE HAD REAL CONVERSATIONS

03:40:17.203 --> 03:40:18.204
WITH YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE IN

03:40:18.271 --> 03:40:19.439
SOME OF THE LESS RESTRICTIVE

03:40:19.506 --> 03:40:20.874
PLACEMENTS, AND THEY HAVE

03:40:20.941 --> 03:40:22.075
SHARED THEIR EXPERIENCES, AND I

03:40:22.142 --> 03:40:23.209
JUST WANT TO BE REALLY

03:40:23.276 --> 03:40:24.277
THOUGHTFUL ABOUT HOW WE ADDRESS

03:40:24.344 --> 03:40:26.079
THEIR NEEDS AS WELL. AND I

03:40:26.146 --> 03:40:27.180
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.

03:40:27.247 --> 03:40:28.381
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

03:40:28.448 --> 03:40:30.283
THAT WILL GO IN THE STACK WITH

03:40:30.350 --> 03:40:32.185
THE REST OF THE BILLS FOR US TO

03:40:32.252 --> 03:40:34.087
VOTE ON LATER. GO AHEAD AND

03:40:34.154 --> 03:40:35.188
PRESENT YOUR NEXT BILL. THIS

03:40:35.255 --> 03:40:36.423
ONE WILL BE QUICKER, I PROMISE.

03:40:36.489 --> 03:40:37.390
THANK YOU. CHAIR. GOOD

03:40:37.457 --> 03:40:39.092
AFTERNOON. I'M PROUD TO PRESENT

03:40:39.159 --> 03:40:40.293
AB 2403. SORRY, I KNOW Y'ALL

03:40:40.360 --> 03:40:41.328
HAVEN'T EVEN LEFT YET. I'M

03:40:41.394 --> 03:40:43.563
TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE. A BILL

03:40:43.630 --> 03:40:45.031
FOCUSED ON KEEPING COMMERCIAL

03:40:45.098 --> 03:40:47.167
PRODUCTION JOBS HERE IN

03:40:47.233 --> 03:40:48.568
CALIFORNIA FOR OUR WORKERS, OUR

03:40:48.635 --> 03:40:50.403
BUSINESSES, AND OUR LOCAL

03:40:50.470 --> 03:40:51.838
ECONOMIES. CALIFORNIA HAS LONG

03:40:51.905 --> 03:40:52.906
BEEN A HUB FOR COMMERCIAL

03:40:52.973 --> 03:40:54.474
PRODUCTION. WE HAVE THE CREWS,

03:40:54.541 --> 03:40:55.475
THE INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THE

03:40:55.542 --> 03:40:56.643
TALENT THAT BUILT THIS INDUSTRY,

03:40:56.710 --> 03:40:58.345
BUT WE ARE LOSING THAT WORK.

03:40:58.411 --> 03:40:59.779
OVER THE PAST DECADE,

03:40:59.846 --> 03:41:01.214
CALIFORNIA'S SHARE OF

03:41:01.281 --> 03:41:02.649
NATIONALLY AIRED COMMERCIALS

03:41:02.716 --> 03:41:05.285
HAS DROPPED FROM ABOUT 50 TO

03:41:05.352 --> 03:41:06.586
25%, AND IN L.A. ALONE,

03:41:06.653 --> 03:41:08.388
PRODUCTION HAS DECLINED BY 35%

03:41:08.455 --> 03:41:10.190
IN JUST FIVE YEARS. THAT

03:41:10.256 --> 03:41:11.524
DECLINE HAS REAL CONSEQUENCES.

03:41:11.591 --> 03:41:13.093
IT MEANS FEWER JOBS FOR SKILLED

03:41:13.159 --> 03:41:14.394
WORKERS, FEWER OPPORTUNITIES

03:41:14.461 --> 03:41:15.629
FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO GET THEIR

03:41:15.695 --> 03:41:16.796
FOOT IN THE DOOR, AND LESS

03:41:16.863 --> 03:41:18.098
INVESTMENT IN OUR LOCAL

03:41:18.164 --> 03:41:19.165
COMMUNITIES. COMMERCIAL

03:41:19.232 --> 03:41:20.634
PRODUCTION IS HIGHLY MOBILE,

03:41:20.700 --> 03:41:22.802
AND RIGHT NOW, OTHER STATES ARE

03:41:22.869 --> 03:41:24.270
ACTIVELY COMPETING FOR THIS

03:41:24.337 --> 03:41:25.639
WORK AND WINNING BECAUSE THEY

03:41:25.705 --> 03:41:28.241
OFFER TARGETED INCENTIVES. AT

03:41:28.308 --> 03:41:29.275
THE SAME TIME, CALIFORNIA

03:41:29.342 --> 03:41:30.744
REMAINS ONE OF THE ONLY MAJOR

03:41:30.810 --> 03:41:31.778
PRODUCTION STATES WITHOUT A

03:41:31.845 --> 03:41:32.712
DEDICATED COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION

03:41:32.779 --> 03:41:34.314
TAX CREDIT. THIS BILL IS

03:41:34.381 --> 03:41:35.782
SUPPORTED BY LABOR ORGS

03:41:35.849 --> 03:41:36.616
REPRESENTING THE VERY WORKERS

03:41:36.683 --> 03:41:38.251
WHO POWER THIS INDUSTRY. OUR

03:41:38.318 --> 03:41:39.753
LABOR PARTNERS KNOW THAT WHEN

03:41:39.819 --> 03:41:41.521
PRODUCTION LEAVES, CAREERS,

03:41:41.588 --> 03:41:43.757
LEAVE WITH IT. AB 2403 IS ABOUT

03:41:43.823 --> 03:41:46.192
CLOSING THAT GAP, AND IT ALSO

03:41:46.259 --> 03:41:47.661
CREATES A TARGETED INCENTIVE TO

03:41:47.727 --> 03:41:49.562
KEEP COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION HERE

03:41:49.629 --> 03:41:51.364
SO WE CAN RETAIN JOBS, SUPPORT

03:41:51.431 --> 03:41:53.400
OUR WORKFORCE, AND ENSURE THIS

03:41:53.466 --> 03:41:54.467
INDUSTRY CONTINUES TO GROW IN

03:41:54.534 --> 03:41:55.635
THE STATE. THAT BUILT IT WITH

03:41:55.702 --> 03:41:57.504
ME TODAY IS RALPH LOYOLA, LABOR

03:41:57.570 --> 03:41:58.471
RELATIONS MANAGER AT THE

03:41:58.538 --> 03:42:00.507
ASSOCIATION OF INDEPENDENT

03:42:00.573 --> 03:42:01.975
COMMERCIAL PRODUCERS, AND

03:42:02.042 --> 03:42:03.376
ESTEBAN NUNEZ, MANAGING

03:42:03.443 --> 03:42:05.211
DIRECTOR AT ACTOM. ESTEBAN WILL

03:42:05.278 --> 03:42:06.279
BE READING THE TESTIMONY ON

03:42:06.346 --> 03:42:07.714
BEHALF OF RUDY REYES, WHO'S A

03:42:07.781 --> 03:42:09.115
LIGHTING TECHNICIAN AND

03:42:09.182 --> 03:42:10.283
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE DIRECTOR AT

03:42:10.350 --> 03:42:11.718
THE RESTORATIVE ACADEMIC

03:42:11.785 --> 03:42:13.053
MENTORSHIP PROGRAM. AND I

03:42:13.119 --> 03:42:14.220
UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE SOME

03:42:14.287 --> 03:42:15.588
AMENDMENTS THAT YOU TOOK IN

03:42:15.655 --> 03:42:16.990
REVEREND TAX. YES. YOU'RE GOING

03:42:17.057 --> 03:42:18.191
TO BE TAKING IN THIS. YES, WE

03:42:18.258 --> 03:42:20.060
ARE TAKING IT. ALL RIGHT. THANK

03:42:20.126 --> 03:42:21.027
YOU. THANKS. GENTLEMEN, YOU

03:42:21.094 --> 03:42:22.128
HAVE TWO MINUTES. YOU DON'T

03:42:22.195 --> 03:42:24.030
HAVE TO TAKE IT ALL IF YOU

03:42:24.097 --> 03:42:25.965
DON'T WANT TO, BUT YOU GOT TWO

03:42:26.032 --> 03:42:29.302
MINUTES. CHAIR AND MEMBERS, I

03:42:29.369 --> 03:42:31.838
AM RALPH WITH THE A ICP

03:42:31.905 --> 03:42:33.640
REPRESENTING OVER 300 COMPANIES

03:42:33.707 --> 03:42:35.041
THAT SPECIALIZE IN THE

03:42:35.108 --> 03:42:36.776
PRODUCTION AND POST-PRODUCTION

03:42:36.843 --> 03:42:39.045
OF TELEVISION COMMERCIALS FOR

03:42:39.112 --> 03:42:41.181
ADVERTISERS AND AD AGENCIES.

03:42:41.247 --> 03:42:44.084
THE A ICP IS PROUD TO SUPPORT

03:42:44.150 --> 03:42:47.320
AND SPONSOR A B 2403. WE

03:42:47.387 --> 03:42:48.755
APPRECIATE THE COMMITTEE'S

03:42:48.822 --> 03:42:50.190
CONSIDERATION OF THIS BILL AND

03:42:50.256 --> 03:42:51.224
UNDERSTAND THAT IT HAS BEEN

03:42:51.291 --> 03:42:53.093
REFERRED TO PUBLIC SAFETY DUE

03:42:53.159 --> 03:42:55.195
TO PROVISIONS REQUIRING

03:42:55.261 --> 03:42:56.663
APPLICANTS TO CERTIFY

03:42:56.730 --> 03:42:58.798
INFORMATION SUBMITTED TO THE

03:42:58.865 --> 03:43:00.266
CALIFORNIA FILM COMMISSION

03:43:00.333 --> 03:43:02.736
UNDER THE PENALTY OF PERJURY.

03:43:02.802 --> 03:43:06.372
WE SUPPORT THESE PROVISIONS. AB

03:43:06.439 --> 03:43:08.508
2403 ESTABLISHES A TARGETED TAX

03:43:08.575 --> 03:43:10.310
CREDIT PROGRAM INTENDED TO

03:43:10.376 --> 03:43:12.145
SUPPORT COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION

03:43:12.212 --> 03:43:14.080
ACTIVITY IN CALIFORNIA. BECAUSE

03:43:14.147 --> 03:43:17.517
THE PROGRAM RELIES ON APPLICANT

03:43:17.584 --> 03:43:18.985
REPRESENTATIONS REGARDING

03:43:19.052 --> 03:43:20.787
ELIGIBILITY, PRODUCTION

03:43:20.854 --> 03:43:22.622
PRACTICES, LABOR COMPLIANCE,

03:43:22.689 --> 03:43:24.724
AND THE USE OF ARTIFICIAL

03:43:24.791 --> 03:43:25.859
INTELLIGENCE. THE BILL

03:43:25.925 --> 03:43:27.560
APPROPRIATELY INCLUDES

03:43:27.627 --> 03:43:29.028
ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES TO HELP

03:43:29.095 --> 03:43:31.531
ENSURE PUBLIC CONFIDENCE IN

03:43:31.598 --> 03:43:33.399
ADMINISTRATION OF THE PROGRAM.

03:43:33.466 --> 03:43:35.168
THE CERTIFICATION REQUIREMENT

03:43:35.235 --> 03:43:36.603
SERVES AS STRAIGHTFORWARD

03:43:36.669 --> 03:43:38.404
PURPOSE TO ENSURE THAT

03:43:38.471 --> 03:43:39.672
APPLICANTS ATTEST TRUTHFULLY TO

03:43:39.739 --> 03:43:41.674
THE FACTS THAT DETERMINE THEIR

03:43:41.741 --> 03:43:42.709
ELIGIBILITY FOR THIS PUBLIC

03:43:42.776 --> 03:43:44.878
BENEFIT. THE LANGUAGE DOES NOT

03:43:44.944 --> 03:43:46.312
CREATE NEW CRIMINAL CONDUCT,

03:43:46.379 --> 03:43:48.481
NOR DOES IT EXPAND LIABILITY

03:43:48.548 --> 03:43:50.617
BEYOND EXISTING STANDARDS THAT

03:43:50.683 --> 03:43:53.186
ROUTINELY SHAPE THAT ROUTINELY

03:43:53.253 --> 03:43:54.554
APPLY THROUGHOUT CALIFORNIA

03:43:54.621 --> 03:43:56.356
GOVERNMENT, WHERE TAXPAYERS OR

03:43:56.422 --> 03:43:57.824
APPLICANTS SUBMIT MATERIAL

03:43:57.891 --> 03:43:59.626
INFORMATION TO OBTAIN PUBLIC

03:43:59.692 --> 03:44:01.327
FUNDS OR OTHER STATE

03:44:01.394 --> 03:44:03.496
ADMINISTERED BENEFITS. THE

03:44:03.563 --> 03:44:05.265
PROVISION ALSO HELPS TO PROTECT

03:44:05.331 --> 03:44:06.766
LEGITIMATE PARTICIPANTS IN THE

03:44:06.833 --> 03:44:08.535
PROGRAM BY PROMOTING A LEVEL

03:44:08.601 --> 03:44:10.770
PLAYING FIELD AND DISCOURAGING

03:44:10.837 --> 03:44:14.307
ABUSE. A B 2403 PAIRS ECONOMIC

03:44:14.374 --> 03:44:16.810
DEVELOPMENT GOALS WITH CLEAR

03:44:16.876 --> 03:44:18.645
VERIFICATION AND COMPLIANCE

03:44:18.711 --> 03:44:19.646
EXPECTATIONS, AND WE BELIEVE

03:44:19.712 --> 03:44:21.514
THAT BALANCE IS APPROPRIATE.

03:44:21.581 --> 03:44:22.949
THANK YOU TO THE ASSEMBLY

03:44:23.016 --> 03:44:24.250
MEMBER AND THE ENTERTAINMENT

03:44:24.317 --> 03:44:25.852
UNION COALITION FOR THEIR

03:44:25.919 --> 03:44:27.687
SUPPORT AS WELL. WE

03:44:27.754 --> 03:44:29.122
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE

03:44:29.189 --> 03:44:31.891
ON A B 2403. THANK YOU. NEXT

03:44:31.958 --> 03:44:34.060
SPEAKER. GO AHEAD. CHAIR AND

03:44:34.127 --> 03:44:35.862
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE, I

03:44:35.929 --> 03:44:37.430
WILL BE READING OFF A GOOD

03:44:37.497 --> 03:44:38.698
FRIEND OF MINE'S TESTIMONY,

03:44:38.765 --> 03:44:41.100
RUDY REYES, WHOM I MET WITH MY

03:44:41.167 --> 03:44:42.769
WORK AT THE ANTI-RECIDIVISM

03:44:42.836 --> 03:44:44.304
COALITION. CHAIR AND MEMBERS.

03:44:44.370 --> 03:44:46.005
MY NAME IS RUDY REYES. I'M A

03:44:46.072 --> 03:44:47.841
SET LIGHTING TECHNICIAN WITH

03:44:47.907 --> 03:44:50.276
LOCAL 728 AND ALSO THE

03:44:50.343 --> 03:44:51.711
RESTORATIVE JUSTICE DIRECTOR AT

03:44:51.778 --> 03:44:53.513
RAMP AND A MEMBER OF THE

03:44:53.580 --> 03:44:55.415
ANTI-RECIDIVISM COALITION. I AM

03:44:55.481 --> 03:44:56.749
ALSO FORMERLY INCARCERATED. I

03:44:56.816 --> 03:44:58.685
SPENT 28 YEARS IN THE JUVENILE

03:44:58.751 --> 03:45:00.386
AND ADULT SYSTEMS BEFORE I WAS

03:45:00.453 --> 03:45:03.389
PAROLED IN LOS ANGELES IN 2017.

03:45:03.456 --> 03:45:04.424
WHAT CHANGED MY LIFE WAS

03:45:04.490 --> 03:45:06.793
COMMERCIAL PRODUCTION. I JOINED

03:45:06.860 --> 03:45:08.962
MANIFEST WORKS, A PROGRAM THAT

03:45:09.028 --> 03:45:11.064
TRAINS JUSTICE IMPACTED PEOPLE

03:45:11.130 --> 03:45:13.466
ON REAL COMMERCIAL SETS FROM

03:45:13.533 --> 03:45:15.869
THE CLIENT BID THROUGH POST. I

03:45:15.935 --> 03:45:17.337
STARTED AS A PRODUCTION

03:45:17.403 --> 03:45:19.505
ASSISTANT WITH NO FAMILY AND NO

03:45:19.572 --> 03:45:21.174
CONNECTIONS, AND I EARNED MY

03:45:21.241 --> 03:45:23.009
UNION CARD ONE COMMERCIAL AT A

03:45:23.076 --> 03:45:25.879
TIME. THAT PATHWAY IS

03:45:25.945 --> 03:45:26.679
DISAPPEARING. COMMERCIAL WORK

03:45:26.746 --> 03:45:28.848
IS LEAVING CALIFORNIA AT A

03:45:28.915 --> 03:45:31.384
RAPID PACE. I USED TO SHOOT 2

03:45:31.451 --> 03:45:33.186
OR 3 SUPER BOWL COMMERCIALS A

03:45:33.253 --> 03:45:36.055
YEAR, BUT IN 2024 AND 2025, I

03:45:36.122 --> 03:45:39.692
ONLY SHOT ONE. UNLIKE FILM AND

03:45:39.759 --> 03:45:41.427
TV, THESE PRODUCTIONS DON'T

03:45:41.494 --> 03:45:42.829
QUALIFY FOR MEANINGFUL TAX

03:45:42.896 --> 03:45:44.264
CREDITS, SO THE JOBS GO TO

03:45:44.330 --> 03:45:46.499
OTHER STATES. THIS MATTERS

03:45:46.566 --> 03:45:47.533
BECAUSE COMMERCIALS ARE WHERE

03:45:47.600 --> 03:45:49.736
WORKERS LIKE ME GET OUR HOURS,

03:45:49.802 --> 03:45:52.238
SHORT CYCLES, FREQUENT HIRING,

03:45:52.305 --> 03:45:54.474
REAL ENTRY POINTS THAT DON'T

03:45:54.540 --> 03:45:57.010
DEMAND YEARS OF EXPERIENCE.

03:45:57.076 --> 03:45:58.411
LAST YEAR, YOU PROTECTED FILM

03:45:58.478 --> 03:46:00.513
AND TV JOBS. COMMERCIAL

03:46:00.580 --> 03:46:02.615
PRODUCTION IS THE GAP, AND IT'S

03:46:02.682 --> 03:46:04.317
THE ON RAMP FOR PEOPLE COMING

03:46:04.384 --> 03:46:05.785
HOME TRYING TO BUILD SOMETHING

03:46:05.852 --> 03:46:08.855
REAL. AB 2403 IS A MODEST FIX,

03:46:08.922 --> 03:46:11.724
A 20% CREDIT IN THE LA ZONE,

03:46:11.791 --> 03:46:13.860
30% OUTSIDE CAPPED AT 15

03:46:13.927 --> 03:46:15.261
MILLION WITH WORKFORCE

03:46:15.328 --> 03:46:16.763
DEVELOPMENT REQUIREMENTS. THIS

03:46:16.829 --> 03:46:18.231
IS ABOUT. THIS IS ABOUT

03:46:18.298 --> 03:46:19.599
PROTECTING UNION JOBS AND

03:46:19.666 --> 03:46:21.167
KEEPING THAT DOOR OPEN FOR THE

03:46:21.234 --> 03:46:22.502
NEXT PERSON, STARTING FROM

03:46:22.568 --> 03:46:23.603
NOTHING. I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR

03:46:23.670 --> 03:46:25.838
YOUR AYE VOTE ON AB 2403. THANK

03:46:25.905 --> 03:46:27.540
YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY

03:46:27.607 --> 03:46:30.376
MUCH. AT THIS TIME, ANYBODY WHO

03:46:30.443 --> 03:46:31.511
WISHES TO SUPPORT THE MEASURE

03:46:31.577 --> 03:46:32.679
CAN COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE

03:46:32.745 --> 03:46:34.447
AND STATE THEIR SUPPORT FOR THE

03:46:34.514 --> 03:46:36.549
MEASURE. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR

03:46:36.616 --> 03:46:38.217
AND MEMBERS. ON BEHALF OF

03:46:38.284 --> 03:46:38.985
SAG-AFTRA AND TEAMSTERS

03:46:39.052 --> 03:46:43.423
CALIFORNIA AND PROUD SUPPORT.

03:46:43.489 --> 03:46:45.158
GOOD AFTERNOON. ON BEHALF OF

03:46:45.224 --> 03:46:46.592
CALIFORNIA LULAC NATIONAL

03:46:46.659 --> 03:46:48.394
ACTION NETWORK ANTI-RECIDIVISM

03:46:48.461 --> 03:46:49.829
COALITION. CREATING RESTORATIVE

03:46:49.896 --> 03:46:50.863
OPPORTUNITIES AND PROGRAMS.

03:46:50.930 --> 03:46:52.765
FREE WORLD AND REP LA IN

03:46:52.832 --> 03:46:55.301
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

03:46:55.368 --> 03:46:57.003
IS THERE ANY OPPOSITION

03:46:57.070 --> 03:47:00.740
WITNESSES? IF NOT, WE'LL BRING

03:47:00.807 --> 03:47:03.743
IT BACK TO THE DAIS. ANYBODY IN

03:47:03.810 --> 03:47:05.411
THE AUDIENCE WANT TO JUST COME

03:47:05.478 --> 03:47:06.579
UP TO THE MICROPHONE AND STATE

03:47:06.646 --> 03:47:07.914
THEIR SHORT OPPOSITION? IF NOT,

03:47:07.981 --> 03:47:09.582
WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS.

03:47:09.649 --> 03:47:11.384
YOU MAY CLOSE. RESPECTFULLY ASK

03:47:11.451 --> 03:47:13.453
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU. ALL

03:47:13.519 --> 03:47:18.391
RIGHT. MR. SALAS, I WANT TO

03:47:18.458 --> 03:47:20.626
TALK TO YOU OVER THERE FOR A

03:47:20.693 --> 03:47:43.449
MINUTE. SORRY. YEAH, IT'S

03:47:43.516 --> 03:47:47.387
REALLY SHORT. OKAY. I DON'T

03:47:47.453 --> 03:47:50.356
KNOW. I DON'T KNOW, BUT JUST

03:47:50.423 --> 03:47:57.497
THAT'S JUST. THE LAST, LAST

03:47:57.563 --> 03:47:58.865
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR.

03:47:58.931 --> 03:48:00.066
CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

03:48:00.133 --> 03:48:01.601
THANK YOU AGAIN. WE ARE HERE TO

03:48:01.667 --> 03:48:03.469
PRESENT AB 2379. I'M GRATEFUL

03:48:03.536 --> 03:48:04.670
FOR THE COMMITTEE AND THE WORK,

03:48:04.737 --> 03:48:06.873
THE COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS TO

03:48:06.939 --> 03:48:08.708
UPDATE THE IMPLEMENTATION DATE.

03:48:08.775 --> 03:48:10.877
AB 2379 ENSURES LICENSE AND

03:48:10.943 --> 03:48:11.911
LICENSE EXEMPT. FAMILY CHILD

03:48:11.978 --> 03:48:13.346
CARE PROVIDERS ARE INFORMED OF

03:48:13.413 --> 03:48:14.881
THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS

03:48:14.947 --> 03:48:16.549
WHEN CONFRONTED BY IMMIGRATION

03:48:16.616 --> 03:48:17.483
ENFORCEMENT. THE BILL REQUIRES

03:48:17.550 --> 03:48:18.551
THE DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL

03:48:18.618 --> 03:48:19.619
SERVICES TO NOTIFY PROVIDERS OF

03:48:19.685 --> 03:48:20.887
THEIR FOURTH AMENDMENT

03:48:20.953 --> 03:48:21.954
PROTECTIONS AND TO PROTECT

03:48:22.021 --> 03:48:23.489
ACCESSIBLE, MULTILINGUAL

03:48:23.556 --> 03:48:25.558
TRAINING. THIS BILL IS CHILD

03:48:25.625 --> 03:48:26.759
CARE DOORS OPEN BY EMPOWERING

03:48:26.826 --> 03:48:27.860
PROVIDERS WITH THE INFORMATION

03:48:27.927 --> 03:48:29.028
THEY NEED TO PROTECT THEMSELVES

03:48:29.095 --> 03:48:30.696
AND CHILD CARE IN THEIR CARE.

03:48:30.763 --> 03:48:31.764
WITH THIS, WE HAVE TWO

03:48:31.831 --> 03:48:32.799
CHILDCARE PROVIDERS I'M GOING

03:48:32.865 --> 03:48:34.333
TO HAVE INTRODUCE THEM, AND

03:48:34.400 --> 03:48:36.069
THAT'S WENDY MORAN AND ZOILA

03:48:36.135 --> 03:48:37.203
TOMA. AND WE'LL HAVE ONE OF

03:48:37.270 --> 03:48:39.138
THEM SPEAK ON BEHALF OF BOTH OF

03:48:39.205 --> 03:48:40.306
US. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. IF

03:48:40.373 --> 03:48:42.275
YOU CAN, YOU NEED TO KEEP IT TO

03:48:42.341 --> 03:48:44.077
TWO MINUTES. WE'RE ALREADY PAST

03:48:44.143 --> 03:48:45.244
TIME THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING

03:48:45.311 --> 03:48:46.479
THIS, SO APPRECIATE THAT. GOOD

03:48:46.546 --> 03:48:48.347
MORNING. MY NAME IS ZOILA TOMA.

03:48:48.414 --> 03:48:50.416
I AM A MEMBER OF SEIU LOCAL 99

03:48:50.483 --> 03:48:52.351
CC BIÂU AND ELIZA, FAMILY CHILD

03:48:52.418 --> 03:48:54.120
CARE EDUCATOR FROM LOS ANGELES

03:48:54.187 --> 03:48:55.455
COUNTY. I PROUDLY SERVE

03:48:55.521 --> 03:48:56.589
CHILDREN AND FAMILIES FOR THE

03:48:56.656 --> 03:48:58.758
PAST 15 YEARS. I AM HERE TODAY

03:48:58.825 --> 03:49:00.793
TO RESPECTFULLY URGE A YES VOTE

03:49:00.860 --> 03:49:03.429
ON AB 2379 AND SPEAKING ON

03:49:03.496 --> 03:49:04.764
BEHALF OF FAMILY, CHILD CARE

03:49:04.831 --> 03:49:06.265
EDUCATORS, CHILDREN AND FAMILY

03:49:06.332 --> 03:49:08.067
WHO COULD NOT BE HERE TODAY.

03:49:08.134 --> 03:49:09.168
PEOPLE WHOSE LIVES HAVE BEEN

03:49:09.235 --> 03:49:11.003
TURNED UPSIDE DOWN BY THE FEAR

03:49:11.070 --> 03:49:13.005
AND UNCERTAINTY IN MY COMMUNITY.

03:49:13.072 --> 03:49:15.274
I KNOW FAMILY EDUCATORS WHO NO

03:49:15.341 --> 03:49:16.776
LONGER LEAVE THEIR HOMES

03:49:16.843 --> 03:49:18.478
BECAUSE THEY FEAR BEING

03:49:18.544 --> 03:49:20.613
TARGETED. SMALL CHILDREN ARE

03:49:20.680 --> 03:49:21.781
WITNESSING WHAT IS HAPPENING TO

03:49:21.848 --> 03:49:23.549
THEIR FAMILIES, FRIENDS, AND

03:49:23.616 --> 03:49:25.284
NEIGHBORS. AND I'M CARING AND

03:49:25.351 --> 03:49:26.719
CARING, STRESS AND ANXIETY THAT

03:49:26.786 --> 03:49:28.921
NO CHILD SHOULD EVER HAVE TO

03:49:28.988 --> 03:49:30.456
BEAR. WE ALL KNOW THAT CHILDREN

03:49:30.523 --> 03:49:31.791
THAT HAVE WITNESSED IMMIGRATION

03:49:31.858 --> 03:49:33.126
RATES WILL CARRY THIS TRAUMA

03:49:33.192 --> 03:49:35.561
FOR LIFE. AS A FAMILY EDUCATOR,

03:49:35.628 --> 03:49:37.396
WE ARE ON THE FRONT LINES EVERY

03:49:37.463 --> 03:49:39.365
DAY AND FAMILY TRUST US WITH

03:49:39.432 --> 03:49:40.833
WHAT MATTERS THE MOST THEIR

03:49:40.900 --> 03:49:42.635
CHILDREN. WE PROVIDE EARLY

03:49:42.702 --> 03:49:43.803
EDUCATION, STABILITY AND SAFE

03:49:43.870 --> 03:49:45.538
PLACE WHERE CHILDREN CAN LEARN

03:49:45.605 --> 03:49:47.974
AND THRIVE. WE TAKE THAT

03:49:48.040 --> 03:49:49.709
RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY.

03:49:49.775 --> 03:49:51.310
WE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THE

03:49:51.377 --> 03:49:52.612
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND

03:49:52.678 --> 03:49:54.213
RESPONSIBILITIES THAT ALREADY

03:49:54.280 --> 03:49:55.982
EXIST WHEN OPERATING A LICENSED

03:49:56.048 --> 03:49:58.985
FAMILY CHILD CARE HOME. AB 23 A

03:49:59.051 --> 03:50:01.320
B 2379 IS ABOUT EDUCATION. IT

03:50:01.387 --> 03:50:02.822
DOES NOT STOP THE LAW

03:50:02.889 --> 03:50:04.290
ENFORCEMENT FROM DOING ITS JOB.

03:50:04.357 --> 03:50:05.791
IT ENSURES THE FAMILY CHILD

03:50:05.858 --> 03:50:07.560
CARE EDUCATORS RECEIVE ACCURATE,

03:50:07.627 --> 03:50:08.928
KNOW YOUR RIGHTS TRAINING. SO

03:50:08.995 --> 03:50:10.630
WE UNDERSTAND THAT LEGAL

03:50:10.696 --> 03:50:12.498
PROCESS CAN RESPOND

03:50:12.565 --> 03:50:13.566
APPROPRIATELY AND CONTINUE

03:50:13.633 --> 03:50:15.434
PROTECTING CHILDREN IN OUR CARE.

03:50:15.501 --> 03:50:16.502
KNOWING OUR RIGHTS DOES NOT

03:50:16.569 --> 03:50:18.304
MEAN REFUSING TO FOLLOW THE LAW.

03:50:18.371 --> 03:50:20.072
IT MEANS UNDERSTANDING THE LAW

03:50:20.139 --> 03:50:23.242
SO WE CAN REMAIN CALM, RESPOND

03:50:23.309 --> 03:50:24.410
PROFESSIONALLY AND AVOID

03:50:24.477 --> 03:50:25.811
CONFUSION DURING A STRESSFUL

03:50:25.878 --> 03:50:27.613
SITUATION. CALIFORNIA HAS

03:50:27.680 --> 03:50:29.048
INVESTED IN OTHER TRAININGS FOR

03:50:29.115 --> 03:50:30.816
FAMILY CHILD CARE EDUCATORS

03:50:30.883 --> 03:50:32.251
LIKE HEALTH AND SAFETY,

03:50:32.318 --> 03:50:33.352
UNDERSTANDING OUR

03:50:33.419 --> 03:50:35.154
CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS AND

03:50:35.221 --> 03:50:36.189
RESPONSIBILITY IS ANOTHER

03:50:36.255 --> 03:50:38.057
IMPORTANT PART OF BEING PART OF

03:50:38.124 --> 03:50:39.859
BEING PREPARED TO PROTECT THE

03:50:39.926 --> 03:50:41.360
CHILDREN ENTRUSTED TO OUR CARE.

03:50:41.427 --> 03:50:42.762
THIS BILL GIVES FAMILY CHILD

03:50:42.828 --> 03:50:44.497
CARE EDUCATORS THE KNOWLEDGE

03:50:44.564 --> 03:50:46.399
AND CONFIDENCE TO RESPOND

03:50:46.465 --> 03:50:48.201
APPROPRIATELY BY CONTINUING TO

03:50:48.267 --> 03:50:50.636
PROVIDE CARE. WRAP UP PLEASE. I

03:50:50.703 --> 03:50:52.405
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR YES

03:50:52.471 --> 03:50:56.008
ON BOTH. AB 2379. THANK YOU.

03:50:56.075 --> 03:50:58.844
THANK YOU. I THOUGHT YOU SAID

03:50:58.911 --> 03:51:00.046
YOU HAVE ONE. YES. WE'RE GOING

03:51:00.112 --> 03:51:01.847
TO HAVE ONE MEMBER. YES. THANK

03:51:01.914 --> 03:51:02.949
YOU. OKAY, OKAY. THANK YOU,

03:51:03.015 --> 03:51:05.751
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY.

03:51:05.818 --> 03:51:08.387
WE'LL WRAP UP. THEY CAN STAY

03:51:08.454 --> 03:51:09.622
HERE SITTING DOWN. OH, OKAY.

03:51:09.689 --> 03:51:10.823
THEY DON'T HAVE TO LEAVE. ALL

03:51:10.890 --> 03:51:13.259
RIGHT. ME TO COME ON UP VERY

03:51:13.326 --> 03:51:16.929
QUICKLY. YOU. JESSICA HèA WITH

03:51:16.996 --> 03:51:19.432
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. TANIKA

03:51:19.498 --> 03:51:21.634
BANANI, WILL YOU DO WNE FOR

03:51:21.701 --> 03:51:25.605
SUPPORT? THANK YOU. KAREN, YOU

03:51:25.671 --> 03:51:27.173
NEED US US IN SUPPORT. THANK

03:51:27.240 --> 03:51:31.644
YOU. WITH CCP YOU AND YES ON

03:51:31.711 --> 03:51:34.880
THE BILL THANK YOU. ABBY

03:51:34.947 --> 03:51:36.315
RODRIGUEZ WITH ACLU CAL ACTION

03:51:36.382 --> 03:51:37.650
AND PROUD SUPPORT. THANK YOU

03:51:37.717 --> 03:51:39.652
VERY MUCH. ANY OPPOSITION

03:51:39.719 --> 03:51:41.554
DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT. ALL RIGHT.

03:51:41.621 --> 03:51:43.589
COME BACK TO THE DAIS. NO

03:51:43.656 --> 03:51:44.991
QUESTIONS. GO AHEAD AND CLOSE

03:51:45.057 --> 03:51:46.826
THE VICE CHAIR AND ASK FOR A

03:51:46.892 --> 03:51:48.060
VOTE. I WANT TO THANK ALL THE

03:51:48.127 --> 03:51:49.829
PROVIDERS FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

03:51:49.895 --> 03:51:51.030
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

03:51:51.097 --> 03:51:52.832
SORRY WE HAD TO CUT EVERYTHING

03:51:52.898 --> 03:51:54.066
A LITTLE BIT SHORT HERE, BUT WE

03:51:54.133 --> 03:51:57.536
HAVE TO GO. SO ANYWAY. SENATE

03:51:57.603 --> 03:52:15.021
PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOW IN RECESS.

03:52:24.297 --> 03:52:29.502
TO FILE ITEM 30AB2232 BY

03:52:29.568 --> 03:52:31.671
ASSEMBLY MEMBER PATTERSON. GOOD

03:52:31.737 --> 03:52:32.905
AFTERNOON. IF THERE ARE ANY

03:52:32.972 --> 03:52:33.906
PRINCIPAL WITNESSES IN SUPPORT

03:52:33.973 --> 03:52:36.208
OF AB 2232, YOU'RE WELCOME TO

03:52:36.275 --> 03:52:49.021
JOIN US HERE AT THE TABLE. AND

03:52:49.088 --> 03:52:50.056
SO THE ASSEMBLY MEMBER IS GOING

03:52:50.122 --> 03:52:51.691
TO PRESENT FIRST, AND THEN

03:52:51.757 --> 03:52:52.692
HE'LL INTRODUCE THE WITNESSES,

03:52:52.758 --> 03:52:53.859
AND THEN YOU'LL EACH HAVE TWO

03:52:53.926 --> 03:52:55.695
MINUTES TO PRESENT ON THE BILL.

03:52:55.761 --> 03:52:56.696
SO WHENEVER YOU'RE READY,

03:52:56.762 --> 03:52:57.697
ASSEMBLY MEMBER, YOU MAY

03:52:57.763 --> 03:52:58.764
PRESENT. GREAT. THANK YOU, MR.

03:52:58.831 --> 03:53:00.533
CHAIR AND SENATORS. I'M HERE

03:53:00.599 --> 03:53:03.336
TODAY TO PRESENT AB 2232 AS

03:53:03.402 --> 03:53:04.570
SPONSORED BY THE COUNTY

03:53:04.637 --> 03:53:06.205
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I

03:53:06.272 --> 03:53:07.973
WANT TO FIRST STATE THAT WE

03:53:08.040 --> 03:53:09.842
ACCEPT THE. GLADLY ACCEPT THE

03:53:09.909 --> 03:53:12.345
COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS. AB 2232

03:53:12.411 --> 03:53:13.813
REQUIRES THE STATE TO TRACK AND

03:53:13.879 --> 03:53:15.281
PUBLICLY REPORT DETAILED DATA

03:53:15.348 --> 03:53:17.016
EACH YEAR ON REQUESTS TO MOVE

03:53:17.083 --> 03:53:19.919
UP PAROLE HEARINGS STARTING IN

03:53:19.985 --> 03:53:21.721
2027. IT ALSO MANDATES WRITTEN

03:53:21.787 --> 03:53:23.389
EXPLANATIONS FOR EACH DECISION

03:53:23.456 --> 03:53:24.623
AND MAKES THOSE SUMMARIES

03:53:24.690 --> 03:53:26.058
AVAILABLE TO RELEVANT PARTIES,

03:53:26.125 --> 03:53:28.561
WITH ALL PROVISIONS EXPIRING IN

03:53:28.627 --> 03:53:29.829
2032. I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT

03:53:29.895 --> 03:53:31.564
TO THANK THE COMMITTEE STAFF

03:53:31.630 --> 03:53:32.798
AND THE CHAIR FOR WORKING WITH

03:53:32.865 --> 03:53:34.567
MY OFFICE AND THE SPONSOR TO

03:53:34.633 --> 03:53:36.769
BRING THIS, BRING THIS AND HELP

03:53:36.836 --> 03:53:38.637
MOVE THIS FORWARD. THE BILL'S

03:53:38.704 --> 03:53:40.106
EVOLVED FROM A CASE THAT

03:53:40.172 --> 03:53:42.608
OCCURRED IN MY DISTRICT IN 2003.

03:53:42.675 --> 03:53:44.777
17 YEAR OLD PLACER COUNTY

03:53:44.844 --> 03:53:46.078
RESIDENT JUSTINE VANDERSLOOT

03:53:46.145 --> 03:53:50.616
WAS STRANGLED TO DEATH. HE. THE.

03:53:50.683 --> 03:53:52.418
THE ASSAILANT WAS SENTENCED TO

03:53:52.485 --> 03:53:54.186
25 YEARS TO LIFE IN PRISON. HE

03:53:54.253 --> 03:53:56.255
PETITIONED FOR PAROLE IN 2023.

03:53:56.322 --> 03:53:57.923
AT THE HEARING, HE CONFESSED

03:53:57.990 --> 03:53:59.592
THAT HE STRANGLED JUSTINE TO

03:53:59.658 --> 03:54:00.960
DEATH BEFORE POURING CHEMICALS

03:54:01.026 --> 03:54:02.461
OVER HER AND BURYING HER BODY

03:54:02.528 --> 03:54:04.296
IN THE WOODS. HE WAS DENIED

03:54:04.363 --> 03:54:05.598
PAROLE FOR FIVE YEARS, ONLY TO

03:54:05.664 --> 03:54:06.832
BE GRANTED ANOTHER PAROLE

03:54:06.899 --> 03:54:08.200
HEARING LESS THAN THREE YEARS

03:54:08.267 --> 03:54:11.103
LATER IN 2025. I'LL CONTINUE TO

03:54:11.170 --> 03:54:12.438
FIGHT TO FIGHT FOR THE FAMILY

03:54:12.505 --> 03:54:14.006
AND OTHER FAMILIES IN THIS

03:54:14.073 --> 03:54:15.074
SITUATION THAT ARE ENSURING

03:54:15.141 --> 03:54:16.142
THAT THEY'RE PROTECTED,

03:54:16.208 --> 03:54:17.576
SUPPORTED AND NEVER OVERLOOKED.

03:54:17.643 --> 03:54:20.079
THE GOAL OF 2232, HOWEVER, IS

03:54:20.146 --> 03:54:21.080
STRAIGHTFORWARD TO GATHER THE

03:54:21.147 --> 03:54:22.982
DATA NECESSARY TO MAKE INFORMED,

03:54:23.048 --> 03:54:25.484
RESPONSIBLE POLICY DECISIONS.

03:54:25.551 --> 03:54:27.319
ONCE WE HAVE MORE INFORMED DATA

03:54:27.386 --> 03:54:29.121
REGARDING PAROLE DENIALS FROM

03:54:29.188 --> 03:54:31.290
CDCR. TODAY I HAVE MORGAN GUYER,

03:54:31.357 --> 03:54:32.958
PLACER COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY,

03:54:33.025 --> 03:54:34.560
AND DEBBIE BOYD WITH CRIME

03:54:34.627 --> 03:54:36.262
VICTIMS UNITED PLACER COUNTY IS

03:54:36.328 --> 03:54:37.363
EMPOWER AND RESILIENCE PROJECT

03:54:37.430 --> 03:54:38.564
WITH ME TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT

03:54:38.631 --> 03:54:41.400
OF THE BILL. GOOD AFTERNOON.

03:54:41.467 --> 03:54:42.735
YOU EACH HAVE TWO MINUTES TO

03:54:42.802 --> 03:54:43.869
PRESENT THE BILL AND WHOEVER

03:54:43.936 --> 03:54:48.974
WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN. CHAIR AND

03:54:49.041 --> 03:54:50.209
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS DEBBIE BOYD.

03:54:50.276 --> 03:54:51.343
AGAIN WITH CRIME FICTION UNITED

03:54:51.410 --> 03:54:53.179
AND ALSO A MEMBER OF THE PLACER

03:54:53.245 --> 03:54:54.313
COUNTY EMPOWERMENT AND

03:54:54.380 --> 03:54:56.081
RESILIENCE TEAM. WE ARE HERE

03:54:56.148 --> 03:54:57.883
TODAY BECAUSE OF THE WORK WE DO

03:54:57.950 --> 03:54:59.185
ALONGSIDE A REMARKABLE FAMILY

03:54:59.251 --> 03:55:01.921
FROM OUR COUNTY. THE FAMILY WHO

03:55:01.987 --> 03:55:03.656
LOST THEIR DAUGHTER, JUSTINE

03:55:03.722 --> 03:55:05.090
VANDERSLOOT, TO A BRUTAL TEEN

03:55:05.157 --> 03:55:07.593
DATING VIOLENCE HOMICIDE.

03:55:07.660 --> 03:55:08.661
UNFORTUNATELY, THIS FAMILY

03:55:08.727 --> 03:55:10.095
CONTINUES TO EXPERIENCE

03:55:10.162 --> 03:55:11.630
REPEATED AND UNIMAGINABLE

03:55:11.697 --> 03:55:12.965
TRAUMA DURING THE

03:55:13.032 --> 03:55:14.600
POST-CONVICTION PROCESS. ONE OF

03:55:14.667 --> 03:55:16.402
THE MOST SIGNIFICANT EXAMPLES

03:55:16.469 --> 03:55:17.970
IS THE ACCELERATION OF THEIR

03:55:18.037 --> 03:55:19.438
DAUGHTERS MURDERS. PAROLE

03:55:19.505 --> 03:55:21.240
HEARINGS AFTER RECEIVING A FIVE

03:55:21.307 --> 03:55:23.409
YEAR DENIAL. JUSTINE'S MURDERER

03:55:23.476 --> 03:55:25.611
BECAME ELIGIBLE AGAIN IN JUST

03:55:25.678 --> 03:55:27.546
TWO YEARS, FORCING THIS FAMILY

03:55:27.613 --> 03:55:30.282
TO ONCE AGAIN PREPARE, RELIVE

03:55:30.349 --> 03:55:32.084
AND FACE THE INDIVIDUAL

03:55:32.151 --> 03:55:32.818
RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR

03:55:32.885 --> 03:55:34.720
DAUGHTER'S DEATH. AND TO TOP IT

03:55:34.787 --> 03:55:36.755
OFF, JUST ONE WEEK BEFORE THE

03:55:36.822 --> 03:55:38.891
CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY, THAT IS WHAT

03:55:38.958 --> 03:55:40.726
INITIALLY BROUGHT US HERE. WITH

03:55:40.793 --> 03:55:42.228
THAT SAID, I WANT TO SHARE

03:55:42.294 --> 03:55:43.729
ANOTHER REASON WHY WE ARE HERE

03:55:43.796 --> 03:55:46.165
TODAY. SINCE INTRODUCING THE

03:55:46.232 --> 03:55:47.600
LEGISLATION, WE WERE ABLE TO

03:55:47.666 --> 03:55:49.335
ENGAGE IN A PRODUCTIVE

03:55:49.401 --> 03:55:50.102
CONVERSATION WITH THE

03:55:50.169 --> 03:55:51.937
OPPOSITION ON THIS ISSUE. AND

03:55:52.004 --> 03:55:54.106
WHILE WE WILL BOTH CONTINUE TO

03:55:54.173 --> 03:55:55.841
ADVOCATE FOR OUR RESPECTIVE

03:55:55.908 --> 03:55:56.909
CLIENTS AND THEIR

03:55:56.976 --> 03:55:58.744
CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS, WE

03:55:58.811 --> 03:56:00.513
REACHED A CRITICAL POINT OF

03:56:00.579 --> 03:56:01.914
AGREEMENT. AND THAT IS THE LACK

03:56:01.981 --> 03:56:04.783
OF TRANSPARENCY IN CDCR

03:56:04.850 --> 03:56:06.318
PROCESSES, WHICH IS PREVENTING

03:56:06.385 --> 03:56:08.053
ALL OF US FROM FULLY

03:56:08.120 --> 03:56:09.188
UNDERSTANDING HOW THESE

03:56:09.255 --> 03:56:10.923
DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE AND

03:56:10.990 --> 03:56:12.691
WHETHER THE SYSTEM IS WORKING

03:56:12.758 --> 03:56:14.960
AS INTENDED FOR ALL OF US. THAT

03:56:15.027 --> 03:56:18.163
IS SIGNIFICANT. AB 2232 WILL

03:56:18.230 --> 03:56:19.598
GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO

03:56:19.665 --> 03:56:21.100
GATHER CRITICAL DATA REGARDING

03:56:21.166 --> 03:56:23.135
THE PAROLE ADVANCEMENT PROCESS,

03:56:23.202 --> 03:56:24.837
BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW DECISIONS

03:56:24.904 --> 03:56:27.139
ARE MADE, AND ENSURE THAT BOTH

03:56:27.206 --> 03:56:28.541
CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS AND

03:56:28.607 --> 03:56:30.709
VICTIM CONSIDERATIONS ARE BEING

03:56:30.776 --> 03:56:33.245
UPHELD IN PRACTICE, NOT JUST IN

03:56:33.312 --> 03:56:34.747
THEORY. WE MAY NOT ALWAYS SIT

03:56:34.813 --> 03:56:36.582
ON THE SAME SIDE OF THIS TABLE

03:56:36.649 --> 03:56:38.384
OR ON AN ISSUE, BUT MOMENTS

03:56:38.450 --> 03:56:40.052
LIKE THIS DO MATTER, AND THEY

03:56:40.119 --> 03:56:42.221
DESERVE TO BE RECOGNIZED. SO

03:56:42.288 --> 03:56:44.356
BECAUSE GOOD POLICY, THOUGHTFUL

03:56:44.423 --> 03:56:45.824
POLICY SOMETIMES CAN BRING

03:56:45.891 --> 03:56:47.293
TOGETHER PEOPLE FROM VERY

03:56:47.359 --> 03:56:48.694
DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES AROUND A

03:56:48.761 --> 03:56:50.596
SHARED GOAL. AND IN THIS CASE,

03:56:50.663 --> 03:56:53.032
THE GOAL IS TRANSPARENCY AND

03:56:53.098 --> 03:56:54.466
ENSURING THAT WE NEVER LOSE

03:56:54.533 --> 03:56:56.335
SIGHT OF THE PEOPLE AFFECTED BY

03:56:56.402 --> 03:56:58.070
THESE DECISIONS. SO THANK YOU

03:56:58.137 --> 03:56:59.738
FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION

03:56:59.805 --> 03:57:02.107
ON THIS ISSUE AND WOULD

03:57:02.174 --> 03:57:03.208
APPRECIATE AND I VOTE. THANK

03:57:03.275 --> 03:57:05.778
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. GOOD

03:57:05.844 --> 03:57:07.112
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS MORGAN

03:57:07.179 --> 03:57:08.080
GUYER. I'M THE DISTRICT

03:57:08.147 --> 03:57:09.148
ATTORNEY OF PLACER COUNTY. I

03:57:09.214 --> 03:57:10.416
CAN'T SAY IT MUCH BETTER THAN

03:57:10.482 --> 03:57:12.217
MY FRIEND DEBBIE, SO I WILL BE

03:57:12.284 --> 03:57:14.119
VERY BRIEF. THIS BILL DOES NOT

03:57:14.186 --> 03:57:15.087
SEEK TO ELIMINATE THE

03:57:15.154 --> 03:57:15.621
ADVANCEMENT PROCESS. THIS

03:57:15.688 --> 03:57:16.822
RECOGNIZES ITS SIGNIFICANCE

03:57:16.889 --> 03:57:17.957
UNDER THE CALIFORNIA SUPREME

03:57:18.023 --> 03:57:19.425
SUPREME COURT DECISION IN IN RE

03:57:19.491 --> 03:57:22.962
VICS. THIS TRIES TO INSTILL

03:57:23.028 --> 03:57:26.532
SOME MEANINGFULNESS AND SOME

03:57:26.599 --> 03:57:28.067
DIGNITY IN THE PROCESS FOR OUR

03:57:28.133 --> 03:57:29.768
VICTIMS, NEXT OF KIN AND OUR

03:57:29.835 --> 03:57:30.936
SURVIVORS IN THE ADVANCEMENT

03:57:31.003 --> 03:57:32.171
PROCESS. RIGHT NOW, OFTENTIMES

03:57:32.237 --> 03:57:34.073
THE VICTIMS AND NEXT OF KIN ARE

03:57:34.139 --> 03:57:35.608
TREATED AS AFTERTHOUGHTS OR

03:57:35.674 --> 03:57:36.976
INSIGNIFICANT IN THE PROCESS.

03:57:37.042 --> 03:57:38.544
THIS DATA TRACKING WILL ALLOW

03:57:38.611 --> 03:57:40.079
THOSE VICTIMS TO TO UNDERSTAND

03:57:40.145 --> 03:57:41.380
MORE MEANINGFULLY WHAT'S

03:57:41.447 --> 03:57:42.781
HAPPENING IN THIS ADVANCEMENT

03:57:42.848 --> 03:57:43.983
PROCESS AND WHAT THE METRICS

03:57:44.049 --> 03:57:45.117
ARE BY WHICH THOSE DECISIONS

03:57:45.184 --> 03:57:46.785
ARE GRANTED, AND ULTIMATELY,

03:57:46.852 --> 03:57:47.920
PEOPLE BECOME ELIGIBLE FOR

03:57:47.987 --> 03:57:49.355
PAROLE. I THINK THIS IS A

03:57:49.421 --> 03:57:50.489
SENSIBLE APPROACH. I APPRECIATE

03:57:50.556 --> 03:57:52.424
THE COMMITTEE'S SUGGESTIONS AND

03:57:52.491 --> 03:57:53.592
AMENDMENTS, AND APPRECIATE THE

03:57:53.659 --> 03:57:54.960
AUTHOR, MR. PATTERSON, FOR

03:57:55.027 --> 03:57:57.062
BRINGING THIS. WITH THAT, WE

03:57:57.129 --> 03:57:58.063
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST AN AYE

03:57:58.130 --> 03:57:59.164
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

03:57:59.231 --> 03:58:00.232
WE'LL INVITE ANYONE WHO WOULD

03:58:00.299 --> 03:58:02.067
LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR AB

03:58:02.134 --> 03:58:03.302
2232 TO PLEASE COME FORWARD. IF

03:58:03.369 --> 03:58:04.503
YOU CAN JUST LIMIT YOUR

03:58:04.570 --> 03:58:06.271
TESTIMONY TO YOUR NAME, WHAT

03:58:06.338 --> 03:58:07.272
ORGANIZATION OR CITY YOU'RE

03:58:07.339 --> 03:58:08.407
FROM, AND YOUR POSITION ON THE

03:58:08.474 --> 03:58:10.275
BILL. HELLO. THANK YOU SO MUCH

03:58:10.342 --> 03:58:11.577
FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS

03:58:11.644 --> 03:58:13.579
REGINA LEE CHÁVEZ. I AM WITH

03:58:13.646 --> 03:58:16.281
THE PLACER COUNTY EMPOWER AND

03:58:16.348 --> 03:58:17.916
RESILIENCE PROJECT, AND I AM

03:58:17.983 --> 03:58:19.018
ALSO AN ANGEL MOM TO A

03:58:19.084 --> 03:58:20.886
BEAUTIFUL 15 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER.

03:58:20.953 --> 03:58:24.923
I AM STRONGLY IN SUPPORT OF AB

03:58:24.990 --> 03:58:27.059
2232. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NEXT

03:58:27.126 --> 03:58:30.996
WITNESS. HI, I'M CASSIDY

03:58:31.063 --> 03:58:32.164
PAGANUCCI. I AM ALSO WITH THE

03:58:32.231 --> 03:58:33.465
EMPOWER AND RESILIENCE PROJECT

03:58:33.532 --> 03:58:35.968
AND I SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK

03:58:36.035 --> 03:58:39.271
YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS JULIA

03:58:39.338 --> 03:58:40.339
ALONZO AND I'M WITH THE

03:58:40.406 --> 03:58:41.306
EMPOWERMENT RESILIENT GROUP.

03:58:41.373 --> 03:58:42.841
AND I ALSO REQUEST THE SUPPORT.

03:58:42.908 --> 03:58:46.745
THANK YOU. AFTERNOON, TAMMY

03:58:46.812 --> 03:58:48.280
MORGAN WITH EMPOWER AND

03:58:48.347 --> 03:58:49.682
RESILIENCE AND I ALSO SUPPORT.

03:58:49.748 --> 03:58:52.685
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI, MY

03:58:52.751 --> 03:58:53.952
NAME IS ANNABELLE VELASQUEZ AND

03:58:54.019 --> 03:58:55.788
I'M WITH THE EMPOWERING

03:58:55.854 --> 03:58:57.256
RESILIENCE PROJECT AND I AM IN

03:58:57.322 --> 03:59:00.626
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. I'M BROOKE

03:59:00.693 --> 03:59:01.994
SMITH AND I'M WITH EMPOWER

03:59:02.061 --> 03:59:03.395
RESILIENCE AND I SUPPORT. THANK

03:59:03.462 --> 03:59:06.131
YOU, STEPHANIE HERRERA WITH THE

03:59:06.198 --> 03:59:07.433
EMPOWER AND RESILIENCE PROJECT

03:59:07.499 --> 03:59:12.404
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. IVY

03:59:12.471 --> 03:59:13.505
FITZPATRICK FOR THE CALIFORNIA

03:59:13.572 --> 03:59:14.640
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION,

03:59:14.707 --> 03:59:15.874
THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY DISTRICT

03:59:15.941 --> 03:59:17.009
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND SUPPORT

03:59:17.076 --> 03:59:18.177
ALSO REGISTERING SUPPORT FROM

03:59:18.243 --> 03:59:19.611
THE LOS ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT

03:59:19.678 --> 03:59:22.247
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. THANK YOU.

03:59:22.314 --> 03:59:23.482
OKAY. WE'LL NOW INVITE ONE

03:59:23.549 --> 03:59:26.085
MOMENT, PLEASE. WE'LL NOW

03:59:26.151 --> 03:59:27.319
INVITE UP TO TWO MINUTES. ARE

03:59:27.386 --> 03:59:32.825
YOU IN FAVOR? OKAY. I MEAN.

03:59:32.891 --> 03:59:34.359
CORY SALZILLO, ON BEHALF OF THE

03:59:34.426 --> 03:59:35.461
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS

03:59:35.527 --> 03:59:37.162
ASSOCIATION. SUPPORT. OKAY. IS

03:59:37.229 --> 03:59:38.230
THERE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO

03:59:38.297 --> 03:59:42.668
EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR THE BILL?

03:59:42.735 --> 03:59:43.836
OKAY. IF NOT, WE'LL INVITE UP

03:59:43.902 --> 03:59:46.305
TO TWO OPPOSITION WITNESSES TO

03:59:46.371 --> 03:59:48.340
A B 2232. ARE THERE ANY

03:59:48.407 --> 03:59:50.542
OPPOSITION WITNESSES? THANK YOU.

03:59:50.609 --> 04:00:06.391
YOU'RE WELCOME TO SIT HERE OR.

04:00:06.458 --> 04:00:08.393
MY NAME IS SUE KIM, AND I'M A

04:00:08.460 --> 04:00:10.462
POLICY DIRECTOR AT UNCOMMON LAW.

04:00:10.529 --> 04:00:12.030
I WANT TO EXPRESS APPRECIATION

04:00:12.097 --> 04:00:12.965
FOR THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE

04:00:13.031 --> 04:00:14.800
BEEN TAKEN ON THIS BILL AND

04:00:14.867 --> 04:00:16.068
THINK THAT WE'VE COME A LONG

04:00:16.135 --> 04:00:17.970
WAY, AND WE HAVE EXPRESSED A

04:00:18.036 --> 04:00:19.471
FEW REMAINING CONCERNS ON THE

04:00:19.538 --> 04:00:20.405
BILL AND HAVE HAD SOME

04:00:20.472 --> 04:00:22.875
PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS. WE

04:00:22.941 --> 04:00:24.710
HAVE NOT YET SEEN THE CHANGES

04:00:24.777 --> 04:00:26.578
THAT ARE UNDERWAY, AND SO I'M

04:00:26.645 --> 04:00:29.081
NOT ABLE TO WITHDRAW MY

04:00:29.148 --> 04:00:30.482
OPPOSITION AT THIS TIME, BUT WE

04:00:30.549 --> 04:00:31.984
LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUE

04:00:32.050 --> 04:00:33.018
WORKING ON THE LANGUAGE AND

04:00:33.085 --> 04:00:34.953
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE

04:00:35.020 --> 04:00:35.954
STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE

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BETWEEN TRANSPARENCY AND ALSO

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PRIVACY AND CONFIDENTIALITY,

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AND MAKE SURE THAT THIS BILL

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ACCURATELY REFLECTS AN

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UNDERSTANDING OF THE

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ADVANCEMENT PROCESS. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE

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ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

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OPPOSITION TO AB 2232, SEEING

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NO ONE COME FORWARD TO BRING

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BACK THE DYESS FOR ANY

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QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? VICE

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CHAIR? YEAH. THANK YOU VERY

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MUCH FOR THE BILL. AND IN

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TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS AREA,

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YOU KNOW, THE PAROLE PROCESS,

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AND I UNDERSTAND IT FROM ONE

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FAMILY'S PERSPECTIVE THAT I'M

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CLOSE TO AND I'M NOT GOING TO

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WORK. IT SEEMS LIKE IT IS. IN

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TRYING TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS

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OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE

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BEEN CONVICTED OF CRIMES, IT'S

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KIND OF GONE WAY IN THE FAVOR

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OF THEM AS OPPOSED TO AND THEN

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LEAVING, LEAVING THE VICTIMS

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FAMILIES IN THE LURCH. AND, AND

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THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T

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UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS ANYMORE.

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AND SO I THINK YOUR BILL IS

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TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT AND, AND

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GIVING THEM SOME CERTAINTY AS

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TO, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S TWO

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YEARS OR FOUR YEARS OR FIVE

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YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE HAD TWO WE

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HAD TWO TWO YEAR PAROLE

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HEARINGS IN A ROW. AND THEN

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THEY FINALLY DID A FIVE YEAR

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PAROLE HEARING. AND, YOU KNOW,

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THIS FAMILY HAS HALF OF THEM

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HAVE TO COME FROM BACK EAST AND

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THEN RELIVE THE NIGHTMARE OF OF

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THEIR DAUGHTER BEING STRANGLED

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AND KILLED. SO. SO I CAN SEE

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WHERE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO

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ADDRESS HERE. AND THAT'S A KIND

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OF A REBALANCE TO WHERE THE

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VICTIM'S FAMILY HAS THE JUSTICE

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THEY NEED. AND, AND, AND ALSO

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SOME OF THE RELIEF THEY NEED

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FROM HAVING TO RELIVE THIS

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NIGHTMARE OVER AND OVER. WHILE

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WE'VE CREATED AN ENDLESS STREAM

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OF, OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE

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THAT ARE INCARCERATED. SO WITH

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THAT, YOU KNOW, WE STILL DON'T

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HAVE A QUORUM. SO OKAY. AND IF

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SERGEANT CALL ABSENT MEMBERS,

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WE CAN ESTABLISH A QUORUM. I

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WANT TO THANK THE AUTHOR FOR

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WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE. THE

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AMENDMENTS CLARIFY THAT THE

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ANNUAL DATA MUST BE THAT MUST

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BE COMPILED, PERTAINS TO

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REQUESTS TO ADVANCE PAROLE,

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HEARING DATES AND THE BOARD'S

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REVIEW. THOSE REQUESTS. I JUST

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WANT TO CONFIRM YOU ARE

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ACCEPTING THOSE AMENDMENTS. YES,

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SIR. OKAY, GREAT. AND I'LL TURN

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IT BACK OVER YOU TO MAKE A

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CLOSING STATEMENT. GREAT. WELL

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THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO

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APPRECIATE OUR WITNESSES HERE.

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IT'S GOOD TO SEE THEM. AND ALSO

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ALL THE PEOPLE WHO TESTIFY IN

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SUPPORT. AND AGAIN, THANK THE

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COMMITTEE. AND I THINK THIS WAS,

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YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A REALLY

04:03:07.339 --> 04:03:08.206
GOOD PROCESS HERE. YOU KNOW,

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THE BILL WAS A LOT DIFFERENT

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WHEN IT WAS INTRODUCED. BUT I

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THINK WE ARE GOING TO END UP

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WITH A RESULT WHERE WHERE

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EVERYBODY GETS THE DATA, YOU

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KNOW, REQUIRED TO MAKE GOOD

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POLICY DECISIONS AT THE END OF

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THE DAY. SO WITH THAT, I

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RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE

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VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US

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TODAY. WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.

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ONCE WE DO, WE'LL ENTERTAIN A

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MOTION ON THE BILL. THANK YOU.

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AND WE DO HAVE A SECOND BILL BY

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ASSEMBLY MEMBER PATTERSON,

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WHICH IS FILE ITEM 31, AB 2237.

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GREAT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR AND

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SENATORS HERE TODAY TO PRESENT

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AB 2237, ALSO SPONSORED BY MY

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GOOD FRIEND, PIERCE COUNTY

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DISTRICT ATTORNEY MORGAN GUYER,

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AND THE BLAKESPEAR COUNTY

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DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

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WITH THIS. YOU KNOW, I THINK

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THE REALLY IMPORTANT THING IS

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THIS BILL CAME OUT OF THE

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ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW,

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AFTER A LOT OF NEGOTIATIONS WAS

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WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS

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ENSURE THAT PEOPLE ACTUALLY

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RECEIVE THE REHABILITATION

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NEEDED IN ORDER TO BE

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SUCCESSFUL AND TO NOT

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RECIDIVATE AND TO ENSURE THAT

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THEY CAN LIVE PRODUCTIVE LIVES

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ONCE THEY'RE RELEASED FROM, YOU

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KNOW, RELEASED BACK TO THEIR

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THEIR FREEDOM ONCE AGAIN, AFTER

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AFTER THEY'VE PAID THEIR DEBT

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TO SOCIETY. AND SO WE WANTED TO

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ENSURE THAT EVERYONE SUCCESSFUL

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IN THIS OPERATION. AND SO

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THAT'S WHY WE INTRODUCED THIS

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LEGISLATION AGAIN, WHICH CAME

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AT A DIFFERENT FORM. BUT WE

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RECOGNIZE THE IMPORTANT THING

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IS TO ENSURE THAT THAT THE

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REHABILITATION IS COMPLETED.

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AND WITH THE LAWS ON THE BOOKS

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RIGHT NOW, SOME OF THE PEOPLE,

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YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER, IN

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CERTAIN PLACES, IT'S HARD TO

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GET INTO A PROGRAM OR MAYBE THE

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PROGRAM TAKES A LITTLE LONGER

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THAN ONE YEAR. BUT AT THE END

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OF THE DAY, WE WANTED TO ENSURE

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THAT THEY CAN HAVE MORE THAN

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ONE YEAR ON PROBATION TO

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COMPLETE THEIR TREATMENT

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PROGRAM INSTEAD OF IT JUST

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ENDING, AND THEN YOU'RE NOT

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RECEIVING THE ACTUAL TREATMENT

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THAT WE'VE ALL DECIDED AS A

04:05:05.123 --> 04:05:06.491
LEGISLATURE THAT WE WOULD LIKE

04:05:06.558 --> 04:05:10.062
THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO COMPLETE.

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SO WHAT THIS BILL DOES IS IT

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MAKES A VERY MODEST CHANGE AND

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SAY, HEY, YOU CAN GO UP TO AN

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EXTRA YEAR, BUT THAT WOULD BE

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TERMINATED FOR THESE

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INDIVIDUALS ONCE THEY COMPLETE

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THE TREATMENT. IF IT DOESN'T

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QUITE GET TO THAT FULL EXTRA

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YEAR. SO, YOU KNOW,

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ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE

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CALIFORNIA SEX OFFENDER

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MANAGEMENT BOARD HAVE

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REPEATEDLY EMPHASIZED THAT

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THESE PROGRAMS ARE CRITICAL FOR

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MANAGING OFFENDERS IN OUR

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COMMUNITY. SO I HAVE HERE WITH

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ME THE ACTUAL EXPERTS ON THIS

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PARTICULAR ISSUE. THE DISTRICT

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ATTORNEY ONCE AGAIN, AND ALSO

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SIRI MCLEOD FROM THE COUNTY'S

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PROBATION DEPARTMENT. OKAY.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD

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AFTERNOON. YOU EACH HAVE TWO

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MINUTES TO PRESENT THE BILL.

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WHO WOULD LIKE TO BEGIN AGAIN?

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PROBATION OFFICER WITH PLACER

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COUNTY, ALSO 20 IN 2022, AS

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APPOINTED BY THE SPEAKER OF THE

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ASSEMBLY TO THE CALIFORNIA SEX

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OFFENDER MANAGEMENT BOARD, OR

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CSAM, TO REPRESENT ALL

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PROBATION. AND I'M ALSO A BOARD

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DIRECTOR FOR CAL ATSA, OR THE

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ASSOCIATION FOR THE TREATMENT

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AND PREVENTION OF SEXUAL ABUSE.

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IN JUNE, AS ASSEMBLYMAN,

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PATTERSON ADVISED CSAM, A BOARD

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OPERATING UNDER THE GOVERNOR'S

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OVERSIGHT VOTED UNANIMOUSLY FOR

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THIS BILL. RESEARCH INDICATES

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THE RISK OF SEXUAL RE-OFFENSE

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IN ADULT MALES IS HIGHEST

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DURING THE FIRST FEW YEARS

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FOLLOWING RELEASE FROM CUSTODY.

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THAT RISK DECLINES OVER TIME AS

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MALES AGE AND REMAIN OFFENSE

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FREE IN THE COMMUNITY. FOR THAT

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REASON. FOR THAT REASON, TIMELY

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ENGAGEMENT IN SEX OFFENDER

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TREATMENT FOLLOWING RELEASE IS

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CRITICAL. SHORTENED PROBATION

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TERMS HAVE HAD A DETRIMENTAL

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IMPACT ON TREATMENT COMPLETION.

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MOST PEOPLE CANNOT COMPLETE

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TREATMENT WITHIN A SINGLE YEAR.

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SUCCESSFULLY DOING SO REQUIRES

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AN EXCEPTIONAL LEVEL OF

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MOTIVATION, ACCOUNTABILITY AND

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SUSTAINED ENGAGEMENT AND

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TREATMENT. AND FRANKLY, MOST

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PROBATIONERS DON'T HAVE THAT ON

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THE ONSET. THERE IS A BROAD

04:07:01.740 --> 04:07:03.375
CONSENSUS AMONGST PROFESSIONALS

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IN THE SEXUAL ASSAULT FIELD

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THAT REDUCING RECIDIVISM IS NOT

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SOLELY THE RESULT OF TREATMENT.

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RATHER, IT IS THE EFFECTIVENESS

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OF THE CONTAINMENT MODEL, WHICH

04:07:11.049 --> 04:07:13.218
IS MANDATED UNDER LAW.

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CONTAINMENT IS A

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MULTIDISCIPLINARY APPROACH THAT

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BLENDS COMMUNITY SUPERVISION,

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TREATMENT, VICTIM ADVOCACY, AND

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OTHER COMMUNITY RESOURCES.

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PROBATION IS NOT A GOTCHA NOR A

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MECHANISM FOR UNNECESSARY

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INCARCERATION. PROBATION

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ENHANCES PUBLIC SAFETY WHILE

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PROVIDING PROBATIONERS WITH

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SUPPORT AND ACCOUNTABILITY TO

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SUCCESSFULLY REINTEGRATE INTO

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SOCIETY. MOREOVER, A

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MISDEMEANOR CONVICTION IS NOT

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DE FACTO LOW RISK, JUST AS A

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FELONY CONVICTION IS NOT DE

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FACTO HIGH RISK. A MISDEMEANOR

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MAY NOT HAVE ENTERED THE

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JUSTICE SYSTEM CHARGED WITH A

04:07:43.582 --> 04:07:45.217
MISDEMEANOR. I CAUTION AGAINST

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REFERRING TO MISDEMEANOR SEXUAL

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OFFENSES AS, QUOTE UNQUOTE,

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JUST MISDEMEANORS. THESE

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OFFENSES INVOLVE REAL VICTIMS

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AND HAVE PROFOUND CONSEQUENCES

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AMONGST THE VICTIM SURVIVOR

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COMMUNITY. LASTLY, A CASE ON

04:07:55.794 --> 04:07:56.561
TREATMENT PROVIDER INDICATED

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THAT ONLY APPROXIMATELY 40% OF

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PEOPLE CONTINUE TREATMENT AFTER

04:08:00.031 --> 04:08:01.633
THEIR PROBATION TERM IS ENDED.

04:08:01.700 --> 04:08:02.867
THIS SUGGESTS THAT PROBATION

04:08:02.934 --> 04:08:04.369
SUPERVISION PLAYS A SIGNIFICANT

04:08:04.436 --> 04:08:05.737
ROLE IN ENCOURAGING TREATMENT,

04:08:05.804 --> 04:08:07.239
PARTICIPATION AND COMPLETION,

04:08:07.305 --> 04:08:08.306
REINFORCING THE IMPORTANCE OF

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ADEQUATE SUPERVISION PERIODS TO

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SUPPORT REHABILITATION AND

04:08:11.610 --> 04:08:12.644
PUBLIC SAFETY. FOR THAT, I

04:08:12.711 --> 04:08:14.179
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.

04:08:14.246 --> 04:08:15.547
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD

04:08:15.614 --> 04:08:16.548
AFTERNOON. THANK YOU. GOOD

04:08:16.615 --> 04:08:17.582
AFTERNOON AGAIN. MORGAN GUYER,

04:08:17.649 --> 04:08:18.750
PLACER COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY.

04:08:18.817 --> 04:08:20.485
I'M JUST GOING TO HONE IN ON

04:08:20.552 --> 04:08:21.653
THE TWO TWO PIECES THAT WERE

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PRESENTED TO US BY THE

04:08:23.088 --> 04:08:25.624
OPPOSITION, ONE THAT MR. MCLEOD

04:08:25.690 --> 04:08:26.791
ZEROED IN ON, WHICH WAS THESE

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AREN'T JUST MISDEMEANORS,

04:08:28.493 --> 04:08:29.861
TAKING JUST A SAMPLING FROM THE

04:08:29.928 --> 04:08:31.029
PLACER COUNTY DA'S OFFICE.

04:08:31.096 --> 04:08:32.764
THESE ARE MEN WHO ARE FOLLOWING

04:08:32.831 --> 04:08:34.933
AROUND YOUNG GIRLS AROUND A

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MALL, VIDEOTAPING THEM, TRYING

04:08:36.434 --> 04:08:37.902
TO TO FILM UP THEIR SKIRTS.

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THIS IS THE MAN WHO SITS NEXT

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TO A CHILD IN A MOVIE THEATER

04:08:41.406 --> 04:08:42.474
AND BEGINS RUBBING THEIR LEG,

04:08:42.540 --> 04:08:43.975
PARALYZING THEM IN FEAR. THESE

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ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE MASTURBATING

04:08:45.243 --> 04:08:47.479
IN FRONT OF CHILDREN AND PEOPLE

04:08:47.545 --> 04:08:48.913
EXHIBITING THEMSELVES FOR THAT

04:08:48.980 --> 04:08:51.082
PURPOSE. WE ARE. WE ARE SEEKING

04:08:51.149 --> 04:08:53.318
TO AVOID. THE OTHER PROBLEM

04:08:53.385 --> 04:08:54.386
THAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE

04:08:54.452 --> 04:08:55.754
OPPOSITION WAS THAT EXTENDED

04:08:55.820 --> 04:08:57.589
PROBATION TERMS DON'T SOLVE THE

04:08:57.656 --> 04:08:59.090
PROBLEM. IN THIS PARTICULAR

04:08:59.157 --> 04:09:00.558
CASE. IT DOES BECAUSE IT IS

04:09:00.625 --> 04:09:02.127
BUILT AROUND THE METRIC OF

04:09:02.193 --> 04:09:03.194
SUCCESS, THE COMPLETION OF THE

04:09:03.261 --> 04:09:04.829
TREATMENT PROGRAM. THAT EXTRA

04:09:04.896 --> 04:09:05.897
YEAR THAT WAS THAT WAS

04:09:05.964 --> 04:09:08.800
SHORTENED THROUGH AB 1950, IS

04:09:08.867 --> 04:09:10.135
EXTENDED SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE

04:09:10.201 --> 04:09:12.003
OF REQUIRING OFFENDERS TO

04:09:12.070 --> 04:09:13.104
FINISH THAT TREATMENT WHEN THE

04:09:13.171 --> 04:09:14.439
TREATMENT IS COMPLETED THAT

04:09:14.506 --> 04:09:16.007
GOES INTO THAT SECOND YEAR,

04:09:16.074 --> 04:09:17.175
THEY CAN IMMEDIATELY PETITION

04:09:17.242 --> 04:09:18.443
TO HAVE THEIR PROBATION

04:09:18.510 --> 04:09:19.978
TERMINATED, EFFECTIVELY

04:09:20.045 --> 04:09:20.812
GUARANTEEING THEIR SUCCESS

04:09:20.879 --> 04:09:22.447
THROUGH THAT TREATMENT PROGRAM

04:09:22.514 --> 04:09:23.782
AND MAXIMIZING THAT PROBATION

04:09:23.848 --> 04:09:26.017
PERIOD FOR TWO YEARS ONLY,

04:09:26.084 --> 04:09:27.118
AGAIN WITH THE OPTION TO BE

04:09:27.185 --> 04:09:29.020
ABLE TO TERMINATE IT. SO IT

04:09:29.087 --> 04:09:30.155
DOESN'T JUST EXTEND PROBATION

04:09:30.221 --> 04:09:31.823
FOR THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE

04:09:31.890 --> 04:09:33.658
GOTCHA VIOLATIONS. IT IS BUILT

04:09:33.725 --> 04:09:35.093
INTO THE SUCCESS METRIC, WHICH

04:09:35.160 --> 04:09:36.494
IS THAT TREATMENT PROGRAM. THIS

04:09:36.561 --> 04:09:37.829
IS A MEASURED APPROACH THAT

04:09:37.896 --> 04:09:39.698
WILL ASSIST NOT ONLY OUR OUR

04:09:39.764 --> 04:09:40.999
PUBLIC, BUT BUT THE OFFENDERS

04:09:41.066 --> 04:09:42.300
WHO ARE WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO

04:09:42.367 --> 04:09:43.668
COMPLETE THE TREATMENT AND HAVE

04:09:43.735 --> 04:09:44.736
ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY IF THEY

04:09:44.803 --> 04:09:45.470
DON'T. WITH THAT, WE

04:09:45.537 --> 04:09:46.571
RESPECTFULLY REQUEST, AND I

04:09:46.638 --> 04:09:48.807
VOTE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

04:09:48.873 --> 04:09:49.941
WE'LL NOW INVITE ANYONE WHO

04:09:50.008 --> 04:09:51.242
WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT

04:09:51.309 --> 04:09:53.411
FOR AB 2237 TO. PLEASE COME

04:09:53.478 --> 04:09:54.913
FORWARD AND STATE YOUR NAME,

04:09:54.979 --> 04:09:55.980
ORGANIZATION OR CITY YOU'RE

04:09:56.047 --> 04:09:58.416
FROM AND POSITION ON THE BILL

04:09:58.483 --> 04:09:59.851
ON THE WRONG SIDE. AGAIN, CORY,

04:09:59.918 --> 04:10:02.020
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

04:10:02.087 --> 04:10:03.688
STATE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION,

04:10:03.755 --> 04:10:08.827
SUPPORT. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE

04:10:08.893 --> 04:10:11.029
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS

04:10:11.096 --> 04:10:14.966
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. IVY

04:10:15.033 --> 04:10:15.800
FITZPATRICK ON BEHALF OF THE

04:10:15.867 --> 04:10:17.102
CALIFORNIA ASSOCIATION OF THE

04:10:17.168 --> 04:10:18.002
RIVERSIDE COUNTY DISTRICT

04:10:18.069 --> 04:10:21.506
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN SUPPORT.

04:10:21.573 --> 04:10:22.941
CASSIDY PAGANI WITH THE EMPOWER

04:10:23.007 --> 04:10:24.342
AND RESILIENCE PROJECT, I

04:10:24.409 --> 04:10:28.646
SUPPORT. JULIE ALONSO WITH THE

04:10:28.713 --> 04:10:30.148
EMPOWERMENT RESILIENT PROJECT I

04:10:30.215 --> 04:10:33.685
SUPPORT. STEPHANIE HERRERA WITH

04:10:33.752 --> 04:10:34.786
THE EMPOWER AND RESILIENCE

04:10:34.853 --> 04:10:39.124
PROJECT AND SUPPORT. ANIBAL

04:10:39.190 --> 04:10:40.225
VELASQUEZ WITH EMPOWERING

04:10:40.291 --> 04:10:45.230
RESILIENCE PROJECT IN SUPPORT.

04:10:45.296 --> 04:10:46.698
TAMMY MORGAN WITH EMPOWER AND

04:10:46.765 --> 04:10:50.702
RESILIENCE, I ALSO SUPPORT.

04:10:50.769 --> 04:10:52.036
BROOKE SMITH WITH EMPOWER

04:10:52.103 --> 04:10:53.138
RESILIENCE PROJECT AND I

04:10:53.204 --> 04:10:57.108
SUPPORT. REGINA LEAH CHAVEZ

04:10:57.175 --> 04:10:59.277
WITH THE EMPOWER AND RESILIENCE

04:10:59.344 --> 04:11:01.012
PROJECT AND STRONG SUPPORT OF

04:11:01.079 --> 04:11:03.248
MINORITIES AS WELL FOR JUSTICE

04:11:03.314 --> 04:11:04.649
IN STRONG SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

04:11:04.716 --> 04:11:07.952
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DEBBIE

04:11:08.019 --> 04:11:10.455
BOYD WITH CRIME VICTIMS UNITED

04:11:10.522 --> 04:11:12.223
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

04:11:12.290 --> 04:11:13.391
OKAY. UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE

04:11:13.458 --> 04:11:14.626
ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT

04:11:14.692 --> 04:11:17.262
FOR AB 2237, WE'LL NOW TAKE UP

04:11:17.328 --> 04:11:34.913
TO TWO OPPOSITION WITNESSES.

04:11:40.351 --> 04:11:41.786
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND

04:11:41.853 --> 04:11:43.154
MEMBERS, ERIC HENDERSON, ON

04:11:43.221 --> 04:11:44.756
BEHALF OF THE ELLA BAKER CENTER

04:11:44.823 --> 04:11:46.124
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND RESPECTFUL

04:11:46.191 --> 04:11:49.294
OPPOSITION TO AB 2237. WE DO

04:11:49.360 --> 04:11:50.395
APPRECIATE THE EARLIER

04:11:50.462 --> 04:11:51.663
AMENDMENTS TO THE BILL, BUT WE

04:11:51.729 --> 04:11:53.598
DO CONTINUE TO HAVE SOME

04:11:53.665 --> 04:11:56.100
CONCERNS. AS MENTIONED, A FEW

04:11:56.167 --> 04:11:57.202
YEARS AGO, THIS LEGISLATURE

04:11:57.268 --> 04:11:59.771
PASSED AB 1950, WHICH LIMITED

04:11:59.838 --> 04:12:01.172
PROBATION TERMS TO NO MORE THAN

04:12:01.239 --> 04:12:03.341
TWO YEARS FOR A FELONY

04:12:03.408 --> 04:12:04.742
CONVICTION AND ONE YEAR FOR A

04:12:04.809 --> 04:12:06.544
MISDEMEANOR CONVICTION. WITH

04:12:06.611 --> 04:12:08.713
LIMITED EXCEPTIONS. THESE

04:12:08.780 --> 04:12:09.781
LIMITS WERE PUT INTO PLACE

04:12:09.848 --> 04:12:11.483
BASED ON RESEARCH DEMONSTRATING

04:12:11.549 --> 04:12:13.151
THAT PROBATION SERVICES ARE

04:12:13.218 --> 04:12:14.853
MOST EFFECTIVE DURING THE FIRST

04:12:14.919 --> 04:12:18.857
18 MONTHS OF SUPERVISION. AB

04:12:18.923 --> 04:12:21.493
2237 EXTENDS PROBATION FOR AN

04:12:21.559 --> 04:12:22.894
ADDITIONAL YEAR TO COMPLETE

04:12:22.961 --> 04:12:24.162
PROGRAMING. BUT I DO WANT TO

04:12:24.229 --> 04:12:25.697
NOTE THAT FAILURE TO COMPLETE

04:12:25.763 --> 04:12:26.764
PROGRAMING IS NOT NECESSARILY

04:12:26.831 --> 04:12:29.667
DUE TO UNWILLINGNESS OR

04:12:29.734 --> 04:12:31.436
NONCOMPLIANCE. REASONS WHY AN

04:12:31.503 --> 04:12:32.871
INDIVIDUAL MAY NOT BE ABLE TO

04:12:32.937 --> 04:12:35.073
COMPLETE CLASSES ON TIME

04:12:35.139 --> 04:12:36.741
INCLUDE PROVIDER SHORTAGES,

04:12:36.808 --> 04:12:38.576
WAITLISTS, INSURANCE BARRIERS,

04:12:38.643 --> 04:12:40.812
TRANSPORTATION LIMITATIONS,

04:12:40.879 --> 04:12:42.547
GEOGRAPHIC ACCESS ISSUES,

04:12:42.614 --> 04:12:44.015
SCHEDULING CONSTRAINTS, AND

04:12:44.082 --> 04:12:46.885
MANY OTHERS. WE DEFINITELY

04:12:46.951 --> 04:12:49.420
AGREE THAT PROGRAMS AND

04:12:49.487 --> 04:12:51.189
SERVICES SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO

04:12:51.256 --> 04:12:52.423
PEOPLE WHO NEED THEM, AND WHO

04:12:52.490 --> 04:12:54.058
WOULD BENEFIT THE MOST FROM

04:12:54.125 --> 04:12:55.960
THEM, BUT WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT

04:12:56.027 --> 04:12:57.529
THE MORE EFFECTIVE SOLUTION IS

04:12:57.595 --> 04:12:59.297
TO INCREASE ACCESS TO TREATMENT

04:12:59.364 --> 04:13:00.932
AND SERVICES DURING THE

04:13:00.999 --> 04:13:02.400
PROBATION PERIOD ALREADY

04:13:02.467 --> 04:13:04.869
AUTHORIZED BY LAW, RATHER THAN

04:13:04.936 --> 04:13:07.472
EXTENDING COURT SUPERVISION.

04:13:07.539 --> 04:13:09.207
IMPORTANTLY, EXTENDED PROBATION

04:13:09.274 --> 04:13:11.042
IMPACTS EVERY ASPECT OF A

04:13:11.109 --> 04:13:13.878
PERSON'S LIFE, AND PROBATION

04:13:13.945 --> 04:13:15.113
REQUIREMENTS CAN BE ONEROUS AND

04:13:15.179 --> 04:13:17.081
MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE ON

04:13:17.148 --> 04:13:18.883
PROBATION TO MAINTAIN A JOB,

04:13:18.950 --> 04:13:21.452
MAINTAIN HOUSING AND MORE.

04:13:21.519 --> 04:13:22.954
TYPICALLY, THESE VIOLATIONS

04:13:23.021 --> 04:13:25.089
OFTEN LEAD TO JAIL TIME, WHICH

04:13:25.156 --> 04:13:27.258
CREATE A SERIOUS HARDSHIPS FOR

04:13:27.325 --> 04:13:28.526
INDIVIDUALS, INCLUDING THE LOSS

04:13:28.593 --> 04:13:31.629
OF A JOB, HOUSING OR BOTH.

04:13:31.696 --> 04:13:32.931
THESE TECHNICAL VIOLATIONS IN

04:13:32.997 --> 04:13:34.799
THE PAST, PRIOR TO THE PASSAGE

04:13:34.866 --> 04:13:37.235
OF AB 1950, COST THE STATE

04:13:37.302 --> 04:13:38.836
SIGNIFICANT SUMS OF MONEY TO

04:13:38.903 --> 04:13:41.673
INCARCERATE PEOPLE AS WELL. SO

04:13:41.739 --> 04:13:43.074
FOR THESE REASONS, WE

04:13:43.141 --> 04:13:44.509
RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR NO VOTE

04:13:44.576 --> 04:13:47.045
ON AB 22237 AND OPPOSE. THANK

04:13:47.111 --> 04:13:50.682
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD

04:13:50.748 --> 04:13:52.917
AFTERNOON CHAIR. THANK YOU.

04:13:52.984 --> 04:13:54.652
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND OTHER

04:13:54.719 --> 04:13:55.720
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. MY

04:13:55.787 --> 04:13:57.855
NAME IS SOPHIA NEWHOUSE BROWN.

04:13:57.922 --> 04:13:59.290
I'M A PUBLIC DEFENDER IN LOS

04:13:59.357 --> 04:14:01.526
ANGELES COUNTY, AND I REPRESENT

04:14:01.593 --> 04:14:03.294
LOS ANGELES COUNTY PUBLIC

04:14:03.361 --> 04:14:06.965
DEFENDER, UNION LOCAL 148 AND

04:14:07.031 --> 04:14:08.700
WE ARE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSING

04:14:08.766 --> 04:14:11.202
THIS BILL BECAUSE THERE'S NO

04:14:11.269 --> 04:14:13.004
ADDED BENEFIT TO KEEPING PEOPLE

04:14:13.071 --> 04:14:14.472
ON PROBATION. IN THIS CASE,

04:14:14.539 --> 04:14:15.907
IT'S JUST A COST TO THE STATE

04:14:15.974 --> 04:14:17.976
AND TO TAXPAYERS. WHEN SOMEONE

04:14:18.042 --> 04:14:20.144
IS FOUND GUILTY AT TRIAL OR

04:14:20.211 --> 04:14:22.647
TAKES A PLEA TO A CHARGE THAT

04:14:22.714 --> 04:14:23.548
MANDATES THEIR REGISTRATION AS

04:14:23.615 --> 04:14:25.283
A SEX OFFENDER, THEY'RE ALREADY

04:14:25.350 --> 04:14:27.418
UNDER THE COURT'S EYE FOR LIFE.

04:14:27.485 --> 04:14:29.887
THE RATIONALE OF EXPOSING OR

04:14:29.954 --> 04:14:31.656
IMPOSING RATHER, AN EXTENDED

04:14:31.723 --> 04:14:33.458
PERIOD PROBATIONARY PERIOD TO

04:14:33.524 --> 04:14:35.627
INCREASE THE OBLIGATIONS AND

04:14:35.693 --> 04:14:37.128
TIME CONVICTED INDIVIDUALS ARE

04:14:37.195 --> 04:14:38.863
ON PROBATION. IT DOES NOT HELP

04:14:38.930 --> 04:14:40.565
PROTECT PUBLIC AND VICTIMS, OR

04:14:40.632 --> 04:14:42.867
MAKE EFFECTIVE USE OF THE

04:14:42.934 --> 04:14:44.235
COURT'S TIME AND TAXPAYER

04:14:44.302 --> 04:14:46.404
DOLLARS. ALREADY, MY CLIENTS

04:14:46.471 --> 04:14:47.839
WHO ARE FOUND GUILTY OF A SEX

04:14:47.905 --> 04:14:49.407
OFFENSE ARE ORDERED TO COMPLETE

04:14:49.474 --> 04:14:51.509
52 SEXUAL COMPULSION CLASSES.

04:14:51.576 --> 04:14:53.945
THE COURT HAS ALREADY HAS THE

04:14:54.012 --> 04:14:55.546
JURISDICTION AND THE ABILITY TO

04:14:55.613 --> 04:14:57.582
PAUSE PROBATION, EXTEND

04:14:57.649 --> 04:14:58.783
PROBATION, OR HAVE A HEARING ON

04:14:58.850 --> 04:15:00.852
MY CLIENT'S COMPLIANCE WITH THE

04:15:00.918 --> 04:15:03.087
TERMS OF PROBATION. HOW THIS

04:15:03.154 --> 04:15:04.756
WORKS IN PRACTICE IS IF SOMEONE

04:15:04.822 --> 04:15:05.857
IS FOUND GUILTY OF A SEX

04:15:05.923 --> 04:15:07.759
OFFENSE AND IS ORDERED TO DO

04:15:07.825 --> 04:15:09.827
THEIR 52 SEXUAL COMPULSION

04:15:09.894 --> 04:15:11.195
CLASSES, BUT IT IS NEARING THE

04:15:11.262 --> 04:15:13.031
YEAR OF PROBATION, AND THEY'VE

04:15:13.097 --> 04:15:15.199
ONLY COMPLETED ABOUT 32 CLASSES

04:15:15.266 --> 04:15:17.535
AT THAT POINT. THE COURT HAS

04:15:17.602 --> 04:15:19.270
THE ABILITY, AND IN MY

04:15:19.337 --> 04:15:21.439
EXPERIENCE, EXERCISES DOES

04:15:21.506 --> 04:15:23.541
EXERCISE THEIR ABILITY TO

04:15:23.608 --> 04:15:25.777
EXTEND, PAUSE OR OTHERWISE FIND

04:15:25.843 --> 04:15:27.879
A VIOLATION FOR NOT MAKING

04:15:27.945 --> 04:15:29.947
ADEQUATE PROGRESS IN COMPLIANCE

04:15:30.014 --> 04:15:31.482
WITH THEIR PROBATIONARY TERMS

04:15:31.549 --> 04:15:33.584
WITHIN THE PERIOD. I ALSO ECHO

04:15:33.651 --> 04:15:36.487
THAT FUNDS GOING TOWARDS MAKING

04:15:36.554 --> 04:15:39.057
PROGRAMS MORE ACCESSIBLE TO

04:15:39.123 --> 04:15:40.491
LOWER WAITLISTS WOULD ALSO BE

04:15:40.558 --> 04:15:45.163
AN EFFECTIVE USE OF THESE FUNDS.

04:15:45.229 --> 04:15:45.830
ADDITIONALLY, WHEN WE'RE

04:15:45.897 --> 04:15:47.665
TALKING ABOUT SEX OFFENDER

04:15:47.732 --> 04:15:48.833
OFFENSES AND INDIVIDUALS WHO

04:15:48.900 --> 04:15:50.201
HAVE TO REGISTER AS A RESULT OF

04:15:50.268 --> 04:15:51.803
BEING CONVICTED OF A SEX

04:15:51.869 --> 04:15:53.337
OFFENSE, THAT ALREADY IS AN

04:15:53.404 --> 04:15:55.206
INCREDIBLE AMOUNT OF OVERSIGHT.

04:15:55.273 --> 04:15:56.541
WHEN SOMEONE HAS TO REGISTER AS

04:15:56.607 --> 04:15:57.742
A SEX OFFENDER, THEY HAVE TO DO

04:15:57.809 --> 04:15:59.677
SO ON A VERY, VERY STRICT

04:15:59.744 --> 04:16:01.012
TIMELINE. AND IF THEY DON'T

04:16:01.079 --> 04:16:02.080
FALL WITHIN THAT TIMELINE OR

04:16:02.146 --> 04:16:04.849
REGISTER WITHIN THE YEAR, THEY

04:16:04.916 --> 04:16:06.350
AUTOMATICALLY PICK UP A NEW

04:16:06.417 --> 04:16:07.351
MISDEMEANOR CHARGE FOR FAILING

04:16:07.418 --> 04:16:09.620
TO REGISTER. I'LL WRAP UP.

04:16:09.687 --> 04:16:16.160
THANK YOU. AGAIN. AN INDIVIDUAL

04:16:16.227 --> 04:16:16.794
INDIVIDUAL IS EFFECTIVELY UNDER

04:16:16.861 --> 04:16:19.130
THE COURT'S EYE FOR LIFE. WHEN

04:16:19.197 --> 04:16:21.032
THEY ARE FOUND GUILTY OF A SEX

04:16:21.099 --> 04:16:21.499
OFFENSE, AND IMPOSING

04:16:21.566 --> 04:16:22.600
ADDITIONAL PROBATIONARY

04:16:22.667 --> 04:16:24.802
OVERSIGHT DOESN'T IS NOT WORTH

04:16:24.869 --> 04:16:27.905
THE COST. IF YOU CAN, PLEASE

04:16:27.972 --> 04:16:30.475
WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS AND THE

04:16:30.541 --> 04:16:31.876
LOCAL LOCAL COUNTY PUBLIC

04:16:31.943 --> 04:16:33.678
DEFENDER'S UNION. 148 STRONGLY

04:16:33.745 --> 04:16:35.079
OPPOSES THIS BILL. THANK YOU

04:16:35.146 --> 04:16:36.180
VERY MUCH. OKAY. IS THERE

04:16:36.247 --> 04:16:37.248
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

04:16:37.315 --> 04:16:41.619
OPPOSITION TO AB 2237? ABBY

04:16:41.686 --> 04:16:42.954
RODRIGUEZ REGISTERING STRONG

04:16:43.020 --> 04:16:44.522
OPPOSITION ON BEHALF OF ACLU,

04:16:44.589 --> 04:16:46.023
CAL ACTION AND THE SAN

04:16:46.090 --> 04:16:47.058
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S

04:16:47.125 --> 04:16:52.430
OFFICE. MARCO GEORGE, ON BEHALF

04:16:52.497 --> 04:16:53.898
OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC

04:16:53.965 --> 04:16:56.367
DEFENDER'S ASSOCIATION IN

04:16:56.434 --> 04:16:58.870
RESPECTFUL OPPOSITION. THANK

04:16:58.936 --> 04:17:03.341
YOU. LIZ GUTIERREZ, ON BEHALF

04:17:03.407 --> 04:17:06.444
OF SMART JUSTICE CALIFORNIA, IN

04:17:06.511 --> 04:17:10.014
OPPOSITION. OKAY. UNLESS

04:17:10.081 --> 04:17:10.882
THERE'S ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO

04:17:10.948 --> 04:17:13.351
EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO AB 2237,

04:17:13.417 --> 04:17:15.019
I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE

04:17:15.086 --> 04:17:16.821
COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR

04:17:16.888 --> 04:17:18.389
COMMENTS, VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU

04:17:18.456 --> 04:17:20.892
VERY MUCH AGAIN FOR YOUR YOUR

04:17:20.958 --> 04:17:21.592
THOUGHTFULNESS ON THIS, THIS

04:17:21.659 --> 04:17:23.327
TYPE OF BILL AND THIS TYPE OF

04:17:23.394 --> 04:17:26.230
ISSUE. WHENEVER YOU HAVE

04:17:26.297 --> 04:17:29.100
TREATMENT AS PART OF GETTING

04:17:29.167 --> 04:17:32.003
BETTER OF THE REASON THAT YOU

04:17:32.069 --> 04:17:33.171
COMMITTED THE CRIME WAS BECAUSE

04:17:33.237 --> 04:17:34.572
YOU NEED DRUG TREATMENT OR

04:17:34.639 --> 04:17:37.508
WHATEVER. YOU KNOW, I'VE SEEN

04:17:37.575 --> 04:17:38.876
THIS TIME AND TIME AGAIN,

04:17:38.943 --> 04:17:41.012
PEOPLE SENTENCED TO 30 DAYS OF

04:17:41.078 --> 04:17:42.513
TREATMENT. SO THEY GO TO

04:17:42.580 --> 04:17:43.181
TREATMENT AND THEY'RE NOT

04:17:43.247 --> 04:17:45.383
BETTER. WHEN THEY GET OUT. THEY

04:17:45.449 --> 04:17:47.285
LAPSE WITHIN TWO WEEKS. AND A

04:17:47.351 --> 04:17:48.653
LOT OF THOSE PEOPLE NOW ARE

04:17:48.719 --> 04:17:50.388
THEY'RE JUST DEAD BECAUSE WE

04:17:50.454 --> 04:17:53.624
DIDN'T HELP THEM. PROBATION HAS

04:17:53.691 --> 04:17:55.426
A LITTLE BIT MORE OVERSIGHT

04:17:55.493 --> 04:17:58.396
THAN JUST THE GENERAL BEING ON,

04:17:58.462 --> 04:18:00.498
ON THE, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE

04:18:00.565 --> 04:18:03.835
SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY. I DON'T

04:18:03.901 --> 04:18:06.971
KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH CONTACT

04:18:07.038 --> 04:18:09.040
WITH THAT WITH WITH THE COURTS

04:18:09.106 --> 04:18:10.908
ONCE SOMEBODY IS RELEASED FROM

04:18:10.975 --> 04:18:12.443
PROBATION. BUT THIS IS ALL

04:18:12.510 --> 04:18:13.511
ABOUT MAKING SURE THEY GET

04:18:13.578 --> 04:18:15.213
TREATED. THAT'S ALL. AND

04:18:15.279 --> 04:18:16.681
WHATEVER THE REASONS THAT THEY

04:18:16.747 --> 04:18:18.082
HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO COMPLETE

04:18:18.149 --> 04:18:19.217
TREATMENT, THEY STILL NEED TO

04:18:19.283 --> 04:18:21.052
FINISH TREATMENT BECAUSE

04:18:21.118 --> 04:18:22.119
OTHERWISE THEY'RE STILL A

04:18:22.186 --> 04:18:23.554
PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD AND

04:18:23.621 --> 04:18:25.289
THEY'RE NOT IN JAIL. THEY'RE ON

04:18:25.356 --> 04:18:27.525
PROBATION. SO IT SHOULDN'T BE

04:18:27.592 --> 04:18:30.695
THAT BIG A DEAL THAT THEY

04:18:30.761 --> 04:18:32.129
CONTINUE AND FINISH THEIR

04:18:32.196 --> 04:18:33.231
TREATMENT SO THAT THEY'RE NOT A

04:18:33.297 --> 04:18:34.632
PUBLIC SAFETY HAZARD,

04:18:34.699 --> 04:18:37.969
SUPPOSEDLY, HOPEFULLY. AND IF

04:18:38.035 --> 04:18:40.838
THEY GET DONE, THEY THEY JUST

04:18:40.905 --> 04:18:41.906
SIMPLY PETITION THE COURT AND

04:18:41.973 --> 04:18:43.307
THEY GET THEIR PROBATION

04:18:43.374 --> 04:18:45.476
RELEASED. SO I'M NOT SURE WHY

04:18:45.543 --> 04:18:47.612
THIS IS SUCH A HEFTY ISSUE FOR

04:18:47.678 --> 04:18:49.013
EVERYBODY TO GET PASSED. SO

04:18:49.080 --> 04:18:50.481
ANYWAY, I'LL BE SUPPORTING YOUR

04:18:50.548 --> 04:18:52.250
BILL WHEN WE'RE ABLE TO VOTE,

04:18:52.316 --> 04:18:54.752
WHICH IS NOT NOW. OKAY. THANK

04:18:54.819 --> 04:18:58.089
YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER

04:18:58.155 --> 04:18:58.956
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM

04:18:59.023 --> 04:19:00.992
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE? OKAY.

04:19:01.058 --> 04:19:02.226
IF NOT, I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER

04:19:02.293 --> 04:19:04.128
TO THE AUTHOR TO MAKE A CLOSING

04:19:04.195 --> 04:19:05.196
STATEMENT. GREAT. THANK YOU SO

04:19:05.263 --> 04:19:07.064
MUCH. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK

04:19:07.131 --> 04:19:08.099
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MCKENNA FOR THE

04:19:08.165 --> 04:19:10.268
FOR THE TUNE DROP, YOU KNOW,

04:19:10.334 --> 04:19:13.170
MIDDLE OF THE PRESENTATION. BUT

04:19:13.237 --> 04:19:14.639
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN ALL

04:19:14.705 --> 04:19:15.439
SERIOUSNESS, YOU KNOW, IT'S

04:19:15.506 --> 04:19:16.741
INTERESTING BECAUSE 20 YEARS

04:19:16.807 --> 04:19:18.442
AGO THIS YEAR, I WAS ACTUALLY I

04:19:18.509 --> 04:19:20.745
WAS A STAFF MEMBER FOR THEN

04:19:20.811 --> 04:19:22.813
ASSEMBLY MEMBER TODD SPITZER,

04:19:22.880 --> 04:19:23.781
WHO'S NOW THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY

04:19:23.848 --> 04:19:25.650
OF ORANGE COUNTY, AND HE WORKED

04:19:25.716 --> 04:19:27.285
WITH JUDY CHU TO CREATE THE

04:19:27.351 --> 04:19:28.319
CALIFORNIA SEX OFFENDER

04:19:28.386 --> 04:19:29.420
MANAGEMENT BOARD. SO IT'S KIND

04:19:29.487 --> 04:19:30.855
OF NEAT. 20 YEARS LATER, TO

04:19:30.922 --> 04:19:32.323
HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE

04:19:32.390 --> 04:19:33.391
CALIFORNIA SEX OFFENDER

04:19:33.457 --> 04:19:34.425
MANAGEMENT BOARD HERE

04:19:34.492 --> 04:19:35.526
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF THE

04:19:35.593 --> 04:19:37.028
BILL, BECAUSE WE RECOGNIZE THAT

04:19:37.094 --> 04:19:38.729
THE STATE LEGISLATURE, WHO

04:19:38.796 --> 04:19:42.333
MAKES A LOT OF THESE APPOINTEES,

04:19:42.400 --> 04:19:44.168
THAT THEY CREATE THE

04:19:44.235 --> 04:19:45.569
RECOMMENDATIONS AND AND

04:19:45.636 --> 04:19:47.071
POLICIES AROUND MANAGEMENT OF

04:19:47.138 --> 04:19:51.108
THIS POPULATION. SO IT'S AN

04:19:51.175 --> 04:19:52.743
HONOR TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK

04:19:52.810 --> 04:19:54.578
ABOUT THIS. BUT, YOU KNOW, JUST

04:19:54.645 --> 04:19:55.813
SOME THINGS THAT I WANT TO SAY.

04:19:55.880 --> 04:19:57.581
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU VIOLATE

04:19:57.648 --> 04:19:58.649
PROBATION, YOU DON'T GO. YOU

04:19:58.716 --> 04:19:59.917
DON'T GO TO PRISON. THERE'S NOT

04:19:59.984 --> 04:20:01.018
STATE INCARCERATION. YOU KNOW,

04:20:01.085 --> 04:20:03.888
IT'S IT'S A COUNTY MANAGED

04:20:03.955 --> 04:20:05.456
SYSTEM AND THE COUNTIES ARE

04:20:05.523 --> 04:20:07.892
GOING TO MANAGE THAT. THERE'S A

04:20:07.959 --> 04:20:09.360
STATEMENT THAT THERE'S NO ADDED

04:20:09.427 --> 04:20:11.162
BENEFIT. WELL, I THINK AN

04:20:11.228 --> 04:20:12.229
INDIVIDUAL RECEIVING THE

04:20:12.296 --> 04:20:14.765
TREATMENT THAT TO HELP THEM

04:20:14.832 --> 04:20:17.301
ENSURE THAT THEY CAN GO BACK

04:20:17.368 --> 04:20:19.003
INTO SOCIETY AND ACTUALLY LIVE

04:20:19.070 --> 04:20:20.538
A SUCCESSFUL LIFE. THAT'S WHY

04:20:20.604 --> 04:20:22.173
WE THOUGHT THAT THIS BILL WAS

04:20:22.239 --> 04:20:23.174
REALLY IMPORTANT ACTUALLY, TO

04:20:23.240 --> 04:20:24.275
LIMIT TO MISDEMEANORS RATHER

04:20:24.342 --> 04:20:26.644
THAN FELONIES, BECAUSE WE WANT

04:20:26.711 --> 04:20:28.412
THOSE INDIVIDUALS TO BE

04:20:28.479 --> 04:20:32.483
SUCCESSFUL. AND THEN AND THEN

04:20:32.550 --> 04:20:35.586
THERE WAS THERE WAS A ANOTHER

04:20:35.653 --> 04:20:37.755
STATEMENT ABOUT STATE

04:20:37.822 --> 04:20:39.991
SUPERVISION FOR LIFE. AS WE

04:20:40.057 --> 04:20:42.860
KNOW, THE LAW CHANGED WHEN YOUR

04:20:42.927 --> 04:20:43.928
REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER, YOU'RE

04:20:43.995 --> 04:20:46.397
NOT UNDER UNLESS IT'S A CERTAIN

04:20:46.464 --> 04:20:49.400
SEX DEFENSE. BUT MOST SEX

04:20:49.467 --> 04:20:50.501
OFFENSES ARE NOT UNDER THE

04:20:50.568 --> 04:20:51.902
STATE'S EYES FOR LIFE. THAT'S

04:20:51.969 --> 04:20:54.839
NOT TRUE. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING

04:20:54.905 --> 04:20:57.575
TO DO WITH THIS BILL IS A VERY

04:20:57.641 --> 04:21:00.211
MODEST STEP TO ENSURE THAT

04:21:00.277 --> 04:21:02.346
EVERY INDIVIDUAL RECEIVES THE

04:21:02.413 --> 04:21:03.414
TREATMENT THAT NOT ONLY THEY'RE

04:21:03.481 --> 04:21:05.282
ORDERED TO, BUT THE LEGISLATURE

04:21:05.349 --> 04:21:06.917
HAS ASKED FOR THEM TO BE

04:21:06.984 --> 04:21:08.019
COMPLETED. WE DON'T WANT THEM

04:21:08.085 --> 04:21:11.288
TO COMPLETE 32 OF THEIR CLASSES,

04:21:11.355 --> 04:21:12.823
THAT THERE'S A REASON WHY

04:21:12.890 --> 04:21:13.858
THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER,

04:21:13.924 --> 04:21:14.992
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE DATA

04:21:15.059 --> 04:21:16.727
SAYS THEY WOULD BE SUCCESSFUL.

04:21:16.794 --> 04:21:17.928
SO WE'RE NOT ONLY TRYING TO

04:21:17.995 --> 04:21:19.030
HELP THE VICTIMS HERE, THE

04:21:19.096 --> 04:21:20.731
VICTIMS OF THESE CRIMES. WE'RE

04:21:20.798 --> 04:21:21.799
ACTUALLY TRYING TO HELP THE

04:21:21.866 --> 04:21:23.934
INDIVIDUAL GOING THROUGH THE

04:21:24.001 --> 04:21:25.503
PROBATION TO ACTUALLY BE

04:21:25.569 --> 04:21:26.537
SUCCESSFUL. THAT'S THE ENTIRE

04:21:26.604 --> 04:21:28.606
PURPOSE OF THIS BILL. SO WITH

04:21:28.672 --> 04:21:30.307
THAT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN

04:21:30.374 --> 04:21:31.609
AYE VOTE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY

04:21:31.675 --> 04:21:32.743
MUCH, ASSEMBLY MEMBER. THANK

04:21:32.810 --> 04:21:34.311
YOU, EVERYONE FOR PARTICIPATING

04:21:34.378 --> 04:21:35.713
IN THIS DISCUSSION. WE'LL MOVE

04:21:35.780 --> 04:21:37.982
TO THE NEXT BILL PRESENTATION

04:21:38.049 --> 04:21:40.017
IN FILE ORDER. I SEE ASSEMBLY

04:21:40.084 --> 04:21:42.319
MEMBER SHARP COLLINS, AND SO

04:21:42.386 --> 04:21:45.890
WE'LL PROCEED NOW TO FILE ITEM

04:21:45.956 --> 04:22:02.106
27AB2108.

04:22:09.380 --> 04:22:10.347
OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO

04:22:10.414 --> 04:22:14.385
PROCEED NOW TO FILE ITEM

04:22:14.452 --> 04:22:16.454
27AB2108. IF THERE ARE ANY

04:22:16.520 --> 04:22:17.521
WITNESSES WHO WILL BE

04:22:17.588 --> 04:22:18.689
TESTIFYING IN SUPPORT OF THE

04:22:18.756 --> 04:22:21.992
BILL, YOU ARE WELCOME TO JOIN

04:22:22.059 --> 04:22:26.730
US HERE. THANK YOU. IT'S RIGHT

04:22:26.797 --> 04:22:30.501
THERE. AND WHENEVER YOU'RE

04:22:30.568 --> 04:22:32.670
READY TO BEGIN, YOU MAY PROCEED.

04:22:32.736 --> 04:22:39.176
THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON,

04:22:39.243 --> 04:22:42.546
MR. CHAIR. AND SENATORS, I'M

04:22:42.613 --> 04:22:44.882
HERE TO PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL

04:22:44.949 --> 04:22:46.750
2108, WHICH CREATES A STATEWIDE

04:22:46.817 --> 04:22:49.220
DIVERSION OPTION FOR LOW LEVEL

04:22:49.286 --> 04:22:50.754
NONVIOLENT RETAIL THEFT. SO

04:22:50.821 --> 04:22:52.490
OFFENDERS ARE HELD ACCOUNTABLE

04:22:52.556 --> 04:22:53.657
WITHOUT BEING PUSHED DEEPER

04:22:53.724 --> 04:22:56.093
INTO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. I

04:22:56.160 --> 04:22:57.128
APPRECIATE THE CHAIR AND THE

04:22:57.194 --> 04:22:58.329
COMMITTEE WORKING WITH ME ON

04:22:58.395 --> 04:23:00.097
THIS BILL, AND I DO ACCEPT THE

04:23:00.164 --> 04:23:01.599
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS. AS WE

04:23:01.665 --> 04:23:04.034
HAVE PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED THESE

04:23:04.101 --> 04:23:05.035
AMENDMENTS. THE AMENDMENTS MAKE

04:23:05.102 --> 04:23:06.971
IT CLEAR THAT THIS POLICY ONLY

04:23:07.037 --> 04:23:08.305
APPLIES TO LOW LEVEL THEFT

04:23:08.372 --> 04:23:10.174
CRIMES, NÓ FELONIES AND

04:23:10.241 --> 04:23:12.977
CODIFIES CASE LAW. PROP 36

04:23:13.043 --> 04:23:14.411
PROMISED VOTERS A BALANCED

04:23:14.478 --> 04:23:16.280
APPROACH TO CRIME BY CREATING A

04:23:16.347 --> 04:23:18.415
BLEND OF REHABILITATIVE

04:23:18.482 --> 04:23:19.517
OPPORTUNITIES AND

04:23:19.583 --> 04:23:20.885
ACCOUNTABILITY, WHICH IS WHAT

04:23:20.951 --> 04:23:23.387
DIVERSION IS. AND WHILE WE HAVE

04:23:23.454 --> 04:23:24.355
DIVERSION PROGRAMS FOR DRUGS

04:23:24.421 --> 04:23:25.923
AND MENTAL HEALTH, WE DO NOT

04:23:25.990 --> 04:23:28.125
HAVE THE SAME FOR CRIMES OF

04:23:28.192 --> 04:23:30.294
NECESSITY LED BY POVERTY.

04:23:30.361 --> 04:23:32.163
ASSEMBLY BILL 2108 CREATES

04:23:32.229 --> 04:23:33.497
PATHWAYS INTO THE WORKFORCE,

04:23:33.564 --> 04:23:35.332
WHETHER IT'S VOCATIONAL OR

04:23:35.399 --> 04:23:36.433
APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS TO HELP

04:23:36.500 --> 04:23:38.169
LIFT INDIVIDUALS OUT OF POVERTY

04:23:38.235 --> 04:23:40.538
AND CURB RETAIL THEFT. SO LET

04:23:40.604 --> 04:23:43.641
ME BE CLEAR THIS BILL EXCLUDES

04:23:43.707 --> 04:23:45.042
ANY THEFT THAT INVOLVES

04:23:45.109 --> 04:23:46.911
VIOLENCE OR THREATENED VIOLENCE,

04:23:46.977 --> 04:23:48.712
ORGANIZED RETAIL THEFT OFFENSES,

04:23:48.779 --> 04:23:51.248
AND HABITUAL REPEAT THEFT

04:23:51.315 --> 04:23:52.650
OFFENDERS. FURTHERMORE, IT

04:23:52.716 --> 04:23:54.752
ENSURED JUDGES RETAINED THE

04:23:54.818 --> 04:23:56.253
DISCRETION TO EVALUATE A

04:23:56.320 --> 04:23:58.122
DEFENDANT'S SUITABILITY FOR

04:23:58.189 --> 04:24:00.257
DIVERSION BASED ON THE ACTUAL

04:24:00.324 --> 04:24:02.293
CASE. CONTRARY TO WHAT FOLKS

04:24:02.359 --> 04:24:04.128
ARE SAYING, THIS BILL IS NOT

04:24:04.195 --> 04:24:06.730
ANTI PROP 36, BUT INSTEAD, AS

04:24:06.797 --> 04:24:08.132
PREVIOUSLY STATED, BUILDS ON

04:24:08.199 --> 04:24:10.301
THE PROPOSITION'S PROMISE OF

04:24:10.367 --> 04:24:11.735
CONSEQUENCES AND TREATMENT.

04:24:11.802 --> 04:24:12.770
WITHOUT THIS BILL, FOLKS WHO

04:24:12.836 --> 04:24:14.305
ARE IN POVERTY, WHO ARE

04:24:14.371 --> 04:24:15.339
CONVICTED OF THEFT CRIMES ARE

04:24:15.406 --> 04:24:17.441
LEFT WITH NO TREATMENT OPTIONS.

04:24:17.508 --> 04:24:18.943
FURTHER, THIS BILL IS SUPPORTED

04:24:19.009 --> 04:24:20.377
BY THE VERY VICTIMS THEMSELVES,

04:24:20.444 --> 04:24:22.479
THE RETAILERS ASSOCIATION, WHO

04:24:22.546 --> 04:24:24.014
ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS A WAY

04:24:24.081 --> 04:24:26.817
TO REDUCE THEFT CRIMES.

04:24:26.884 --> 04:24:27.918
RETAILERS ARE THE ONES THAT

04:24:27.985 --> 04:24:29.753
SUFFER WHEN DIVERSION OR

04:24:29.820 --> 04:24:30.821
INCARCERATION FAILS, AND THEY

04:24:30.888 --> 04:24:32.223
HAVE CHOSEN TO SUPPORT ASSEMBLY

04:24:32.289 --> 04:24:35.826
BILL 21082108 DIVERTS

04:24:35.893 --> 04:24:37.027
APPROPRIATE RETAIL THEFT CASES,

04:24:37.094 --> 04:24:38.829
WHILE ALSO INCLUDING GUIDANCE

04:24:38.896 --> 04:24:40.130
FOR COURTS TO CONSIDER

04:24:40.197 --> 04:24:41.565
AVAILABLE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT,

04:24:41.632 --> 04:24:43.667
PROGRAMING OR JOB TRAINING AS A

04:24:43.734 --> 04:24:45.135
COMPONENT OF THE DEFENDANTS

04:24:45.202 --> 04:24:47.304
DIVERSION, GRANTING FOLKS THE

04:24:47.371 --> 04:24:48.839
OPPORTUNITY TO GAIN A NEW SKILL

04:24:48.906 --> 04:24:49.506
SET WHICH WILL ALLOW FOR

04:24:49.573 --> 04:24:50.874
GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT, IS

04:24:50.941 --> 04:24:53.010
ESSENTIAL TO THRIVING IN THIS

04:24:53.077 --> 04:24:54.778
STATE, BUT ALSO THIS ENTIRE

04:24:54.845 --> 04:24:56.247
COUNTRY. THIS IS ABOUT GIVING

04:24:56.313 --> 04:24:58.048
ACCESS TO THOSE IN NEED AND

04:24:58.115 --> 04:24:59.216
CURTAILING THINGS BEFORE THINGS

04:24:59.283 --> 04:25:00.718
CAN ACTUALLY GET WORSE. MEANING

04:25:00.784 --> 04:25:03.220
CATCHING PEOPLE EARLY. THIS IS

04:25:03.287 --> 04:25:04.855
THE TIME FOR THIS BILL. THE

04:25:04.922 --> 04:25:06.457
TIME FOR THIS BILL IS ACTUALLY

04:25:06.523 --> 04:25:08.158
HERE AND NOW. SO LET ME REMIND

04:25:08.225 --> 04:25:09.393
YOU OF THINGS THAT WE CONTINUE

04:25:09.460 --> 04:25:11.729
TO TALK ABOUT. WE HAVE SPENT A

04:25:11.795 --> 04:25:13.197
LOT OF TIME HIGHLIGHTING THE

04:25:13.264 --> 04:25:14.932
HARM DONE BY H.R. ONE CUTS.

04:25:14.999 --> 04:25:16.200
THESE CUTS WILL PUSH THOUSANDS

04:25:16.267 --> 04:25:18.335
OF CALIFORNIANS INTO POVERTY,

04:25:18.402 --> 04:25:19.637
FURTHER INCREASING THE

04:25:19.703 --> 04:25:21.438
NECESSITY OF SECURING BASIC

04:25:21.505 --> 04:25:23.307
RESOURCES. WHAT DO WE THINK

04:25:23.374 --> 04:25:26.543
WILL HAPPEN WHEN 562,000

04:25:26.610 --> 04:25:27.544
CALIFORNIANS LOSE THEIR FOOD

04:25:27.611 --> 04:25:28.946
ASSISTANCE, VALUED AT

04:25:29.013 --> 04:25:31.649
APPROXIMATELY $6 A DAY? HOW

04:25:31.715 --> 04:25:33.150
WILL THE 1 MILLION CALIFORNIANS

04:25:33.217 --> 04:25:34.251
KICKED OFF OF MEDI-CAL SECURE

04:25:34.318 --> 04:25:35.452
THE MEDICATION AND OTHER

04:25:35.519 --> 04:25:37.488
MEDICAL SUPPLIES? AND WHERE

04:25:37.554 --> 04:25:38.789
WILL FAMILIES FIND THE

04:25:38.856 --> 04:25:39.790
RESOURCES TO CARE FOR THEIR

04:25:39.857 --> 04:25:40.858
SENIOR FAMILY MEMBERS, WHO

04:25:40.924 --> 04:25:43.360
STAND TO LOSE OVER 1 BILLION IN

04:25:43.427 --> 04:25:47.398
FUNDING OUT OF THE MAY REVISE

04:25:47.464 --> 04:25:50.200
DEPRIVATION OF RESOURCES BREEDS

04:25:50.267 --> 04:25:51.635
DESPERATION, AND DESPERATION

04:25:51.702 --> 04:25:54.238
BREEDS NECESSITY. IF THESE

04:25:54.305 --> 04:25:57.107
PEOPLE END, THEY'RE ACTUALLY

04:25:57.174 --> 04:25:58.409
CAUGHT UP IN THE RETAIL THEFT

04:25:58.475 --> 04:25:59.943
DUE TO POVERTY AND THE

04:26:00.010 --> 04:26:01.412
NECESSITY AND THE NECESSITY TO,

04:26:01.478 --> 04:26:03.247
YOU KNOW, TO MOVE FORWARD. ARE

04:26:03.314 --> 04:26:04.615
THEY LESS DESERVING OF

04:26:04.682 --> 04:26:05.716
DIVERSION, OPPORTUNITY AND

04:26:05.783 --> 04:26:06.850
TREATMENT THAN THOSE

04:26:06.917 --> 04:26:08.252
EXPERIENCING ADDICTION AND

04:26:08.319 --> 04:26:10.020
MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES? I

04:26:10.087 --> 04:26:12.189
THINK NOT. OR SHOULD OUR

04:26:12.256 --> 04:26:13.590
JUSTICE SYSTEM LIFT UP EQUITY

04:26:13.657 --> 04:26:16.593
AND COMPASSION? ACCESS TO OFF

04:26:16.660 --> 04:26:18.729
RAMPS AS PROMISED WITHIN PROP

04:26:18.796 --> 04:26:20.798
36? SO WITH ME HERE TO TESTIFY

04:26:20.864 --> 04:26:22.566
IS ANTHONY DIMARTINO FROM

04:26:22.633 --> 04:26:24.134
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND

04:26:24.201 --> 04:26:25.402
JUSTICE. AND AT THE APPROPRIATE

04:26:25.469 --> 04:26:27.371
TIME, I DO RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR

04:26:27.438 --> 04:26:29.306
AN AYE VOTE. I'LL TURN IT OVER

04:26:29.373 --> 04:26:30.607
TO MY WITNESS, ANTHONY

04:26:30.674 --> 04:26:31.575
DIMARTINO, TO PROVIDE

04:26:31.642 --> 04:26:32.976
ADDITIONAL TESTIMONY. THANK YOU

04:26:33.043 --> 04:26:34.345
VERY MUCH. HI. GOOD AFTERNOON.

04:26:34.411 --> 04:26:35.612
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND

04:26:35.679 --> 04:26:37.014
SENATORS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

04:26:37.081 --> 04:26:38.449
FIRST, MY NAME IS ANTHONY

04:26:38.515 --> 04:26:39.516
DIMARTINO AND I'M THE DIRECTOR

04:26:39.583 --> 04:26:41.352
OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS AT

04:26:41.418 --> 04:26:42.353
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND

04:26:42.419 --> 04:26:43.554
JUSTICE. I WANT TO ALSO THANK

04:26:43.620 --> 04:26:45.356
THE COMMITTEE FOR THE WORK ON

04:26:45.422 --> 04:26:46.523
THE ANALYSIS AND THE AMENDMENTS.

04:26:46.590 --> 04:26:47.891
REALLY DO APPRECIATE IT. AND I

04:26:47.958 --> 04:26:49.493
BELIEVE WE DO HAVE A STRONG

04:26:49.560 --> 04:26:51.328
BILL IN FRONT OF US TODAY. I'M

04:26:51.395 --> 04:26:52.429
HERE TODAY AS A PROUD

04:26:52.496 --> 04:26:53.430
CO-SPONSOR AND SUPPORT OF

04:26:53.497 --> 04:26:54.665
ASSEMBLY BILL 2108, AUTHORED BY

04:26:54.732 --> 04:26:55.766
ASSEMBLYMEMBER DOCTOR SHARP

04:26:55.833 --> 04:26:58.235
COLLINS, ÁP 21. Ã, AS AMENDED,

04:26:58.302 --> 04:26:59.336
CREATES A DIVERSION

04:26:59.403 --> 04:27:01.538
CONSIDERATION PROCESS FOR

04:27:01.605 --> 04:27:03.273
NONVIOLENT MISDEMEANOR THEFT

04:27:03.340 --> 04:27:05.776
OFFENSES. IT MAINTAINS JUDICIAL

04:27:05.843 --> 04:27:07.611
DISCRETION AND ONLY APPLIES TO

04:27:07.678 --> 04:27:09.446
NONVIOLENT MISDEMEANORS.

04:27:09.513 --> 04:27:10.447
DIVERSION IS A CRITICAL

04:27:10.514 --> 04:27:11.482
INTERVENTION TOOL IN THE

04:27:11.548 --> 04:27:12.983
JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT PROVIDES

04:27:13.050 --> 04:27:14.818
TAILORED RESOURCES AND

04:27:14.885 --> 04:27:16.620
RESPONSES TO THE DEFENDANT.

04:27:16.687 --> 04:27:18.355
UNDER CURRENT LAW, THERE IS NOT

04:27:18.422 --> 04:27:19.957
A CONSISTENT FRAMEWORK ACROSS

04:27:20.023 --> 04:27:22.359
ALL 58 COUNTIES FOR DIVERSION.

04:27:22.426 --> 04:27:24.895
THIS INCONSISTENCY ALLOWS FOR

04:27:24.962 --> 04:27:26.363
INEQUITABLE DIVERSION

04:27:26.430 --> 04:27:27.831
CONSIDERATION PROCESS THAT

04:27:27.898 --> 04:27:29.199
LACKS EQUAL OPPORTUNITY FOR

04:27:29.266 --> 04:27:30.267
DEFENDANTS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR

04:27:30.334 --> 04:27:32.403
DIVERSION ON A CASE BY CASE

04:27:32.469 --> 04:27:35.339
BASIS. AB 2108 MIRRORS AND

04:27:35.406 --> 04:27:36.340
BUILDS UPON THE SUCCESS SEEN

04:27:36.407 --> 04:27:37.341
WITH DRUG DIVERSION THROUGH

04:27:37.408 --> 04:27:39.610
PENAL CODE 1000, AND BRINGS A

04:27:39.676 --> 04:27:41.378
FAMILIAR STRUCTURE AND NEEDED

04:27:41.445 --> 04:27:42.846
UNIFORMITY TO THE USE OF

04:27:42.913 --> 04:27:44.348
DIVERSION IN APPROPRIATE THEFT

04:27:44.415 --> 04:27:46.817
CASES. AB 2108 PROVIDES MORE

04:27:46.884 --> 04:27:47.951
ACCESS FOR DEFENDANTS TO BE

04:27:48.018 --> 04:27:49.720
CONNECTED WITH APPROPRIATE

04:27:49.787 --> 04:27:50.821
RESOURCES OR PROGRAMS TO HELP

04:27:50.888 --> 04:27:52.256
FOSTER THEIR SUCCESS IN THE

04:27:52.322 --> 04:27:54.057
COMMUNITY, WHILE ESTABLISHING

04:27:54.124 --> 04:27:55.092
APPROPRIATE GUARDRAILS AND

04:27:55.159 --> 04:27:56.627
MAINTAINS THE DISCRETION OF THE

04:27:56.693 --> 04:27:58.729
COURT. AB 218 STRENGTHENS THE

04:27:58.796 --> 04:28:00.130
SAFETY OF OUR COMMUNITIES BY

04:28:00.197 --> 04:28:01.231
SCALING UP PROVEN STRATEGIES,

04:28:01.298 --> 04:28:02.299
MEETING INDIVIDUALS WHERE THEY

04:28:02.366 --> 04:28:03.901
ARE, AND INVESTING IN PUBLIC

04:28:03.967 --> 04:28:05.169
SAFETY SOLUTIONS THAT

04:28:05.235 --> 04:28:06.670
PRIORITIZE LONG TERM SAFETY.

04:28:06.737 --> 04:28:07.805
FOR THESE REASONS, WE

04:28:07.871 --> 04:28:08.906
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE

04:28:08.972 --> 04:28:10.207
ON ASSEMBLY BILL 2108, AND

04:28:10.274 --> 04:28:11.875
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND

04:28:11.942 --> 04:28:12.876
CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU SO

04:28:12.943 --> 04:28:14.011
VERY MUCH. WE'LL INVITE ANYONE

04:28:14.077 --> 04:28:15.078
WHO WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS

04:28:15.145 --> 04:28:16.880
SUPPORT FOR AB 2108 TO PLEASE

04:28:16.947 --> 04:28:18.182
COME FORWARD. GOOD AFTERNOON,

04:28:18.248 --> 04:28:19.583
GLEN BACCHUS FOR DRUG POLICY

04:28:19.650 --> 04:28:24.321
ALLIANCE AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

04:28:24.388 --> 04:28:25.756
GOOD AFTERNOON. A LITTLE ON

04:28:25.823 --> 04:28:26.824
BEHALF OF CALIFORNIANS FOR

04:28:26.890 --> 04:28:28.192
SAFETY AND JUSTICE AND SUPPORT.

04:28:28.258 --> 04:28:33.230
THANK YOU. ON BEHALF OF CRIME

04:28:33.297 --> 04:28:34.698
SURVIVORS, SPEAK IN SUPPORT.

04:28:34.765 --> 04:28:38.669
THANK YOU. MARCO GEORGE, ON

04:28:38.735 --> 04:28:40.437
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC

04:28:40.504 --> 04:28:41.905
DEFENDER'S ASSOCIATION AND

04:28:41.972 --> 04:28:45.943
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ÁP

04:28:46.009 --> 04:28:46.944
RODRIGUEZ REGISTERING PROUD

04:28:47.010 --> 04:28:48.712
SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF ACLU, CAL

04:28:48.779 --> 04:28:50.180
ACTION AND SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC

04:28:50.247 --> 04:28:53.784
DEFENDER'S OFFICE. ON BEHALF OF

04:28:53.851 --> 04:28:54.751
THE CALIFORNIA RETAILERS

04:28:54.818 --> 04:28:55.886
ASSOCIATION IN SUPPORT. THANK

04:28:55.953 --> 04:28:59.923
YOU. SOPHIA NEWHOUSE BROWN, ON

04:28:59.990 --> 04:29:01.058
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES

04:29:01.124 --> 04:29:02.426
COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDERS UNION

04:29:02.493 --> 04:29:06.430
LOCAL 148 IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

04:29:06.497 --> 04:29:07.464
IGNACIO HERNANDEZ, ON BEHALF OF

04:29:07.531 --> 04:29:08.565
THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS FOR

04:29:08.632 --> 04:29:09.633
CRIMINAL JUSTICE, WE ARE

04:29:09.700 --> 04:29:10.567
CO-SPONSOR OF THE MEASURE.

04:29:10.634 --> 04:29:13.971
APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE. GOOD

04:29:14.037 --> 04:29:14.905
AFTERNOON, ERIC HENDERSON ON

04:29:14.972 --> 04:29:16.673
BEHALF OF THE ELLA BAKER CENTER

04:29:16.740 --> 04:29:17.841
FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND SUPPORT.

04:29:17.908 --> 04:29:20.010
THANK YOU. OKAY. IS THERE

04:29:20.077 --> 04:29:21.745
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

04:29:21.812 --> 04:29:24.681
SUPPORT FOR AB 2108 CÁC ANYONE

04:29:24.748 --> 04:29:25.782
ELSE COME FORWARD? WE'LL NOW

04:29:25.849 --> 04:29:43.734
TAKE TWO OPPOSITION WITNESSES.

04:29:45.736 --> 04:29:47.504
GOOD AFTERNOON. SORRY, I HAVE A

04:29:47.571 --> 04:29:48.805
MEETING ACROSS TOWN. HAD TO RUN

04:29:48.872 --> 04:29:50.741
BACK OVER AND GO BEFORE YOU IF

04:29:50.807 --> 04:29:52.142
YOU WANT TO CATCH YOUR BREATH.

04:29:52.209 --> 04:29:53.877
HE LIKES ME BREATHING HARD

04:29:53.944 --> 04:29:56.780
ANYWAYS. I'M SORRY. NO. OUT OF

04:29:56.847 --> 04:29:59.683
BREATH, I MISS. SO I'M VERN

04:29:59.750 --> 04:30:03.020
PEARSON BEFORE WE PROCEED. SO

04:30:03.086 --> 04:30:05.822
WE DO NOT ALLOW CLAPPING,

04:30:05.889 --> 04:30:07.224
LAUGHING, INTERRUPTIONS, NOISE

04:30:07.291 --> 04:30:09.760
IN THE CROWD. SO I JUST WANT TO

04:30:09.826 --> 04:30:11.161
JUST ESTABLISH THAT AS THAT.

04:30:11.228 --> 04:30:14.097
THAT IS OUR POLICY. WE WANT TO

04:30:14.164 --> 04:30:16.133
GIVE ATTENTION AND RESPECT TO

04:30:16.199 --> 04:30:17.668
THE WITNESS AND ALL THOSE WHO

04:30:17.734 --> 04:30:18.769
ARE TESTIFYING. SO, SIR, YOU

04:30:18.835 --> 04:30:20.971
HAVE TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU

04:30:21.038 --> 04:30:22.739
VERY MUCH, AND I APPRECIATE

04:30:22.806 --> 04:30:24.541
THAT. MY NAME IS VERN PEARSON.

04:30:24.608 --> 04:30:26.009
I'M THE ELECTED DISTRICT

04:30:26.076 --> 04:30:27.844
ATTORNEY OF EL DORADO COUNTY. I

04:30:27.911 --> 04:30:29.246
AM IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WAS

04:30:29.313 --> 04:30:31.148
ONE OF THREE ARCHITECTS THAT

04:30:31.214 --> 04:30:34.017
PUT TOGETHER PROPOSITION 36. IT

04:30:34.084 --> 04:30:36.486
WAS MYSELF AND OTHER ELECTED DA

04:30:36.553 --> 04:30:38.322
AND A, FRANKLY, A POLITICAL

04:30:38.388 --> 04:30:40.390
CONSULTANT THAT WAS A VERY KEY

04:30:40.457 --> 04:30:41.758
PERSON IN THE OBAMA

04:30:41.825 --> 04:30:42.893
ADMINISTRATION. AND WHAT WE

04:30:42.960 --> 04:30:45.495
TRIED TO DO WAS TO LOOK AT WHAT

04:30:45.562 --> 04:30:46.663
HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST, SOME

04:30:46.730 --> 04:30:48.398
THINGS THAT HAVE WORKED WELL,

04:30:48.465 --> 04:30:49.566
THINGS THAT DIDN'T WORK SO WELL,

04:30:49.633 --> 04:30:51.401
AND THEN COME UP WITH A

04:30:51.468 --> 04:30:52.402
FRAMEWORK INSTEAD OF PETTY

04:30:52.469 --> 04:30:53.604
THEFT WITH A PRIOR. IT'S PETTY

04:30:53.670 --> 04:30:55.405
THEFT WITH TWO PRIORS. THAT WAS

04:30:55.472 --> 04:30:58.442
THE WAY IT WAS CONSTRUCTED. AND

04:30:58.508 --> 04:31:00.210
BUT THE RECOGNITION IS WE HAVE

04:31:00.277 --> 04:31:02.346
TO HOLD PEOPLE THAT HAVE

04:31:02.412 --> 04:31:03.747
REPEATEDLY COMMITTED PROPERTY

04:31:03.814 --> 04:31:05.315
CRIMES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR

04:31:05.382 --> 04:31:06.683
ACTIONS AT SOME POINT. I'M ONE

04:31:06.750 --> 04:31:08.218
OF THE MOST CONSERVATIVE DAS IN

04:31:08.285 --> 04:31:10.320
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA YET FOR

04:31:10.387 --> 04:31:12.422
WHAT THIS BILL PURPORTS TO DO,

04:31:12.489 --> 04:31:14.524
WE ROUTINELY DIVERT PEOPLE

04:31:14.591 --> 04:31:16.326
ALREADY. THIS IS AN UNNECESSARY

04:31:16.393 --> 04:31:18.028
BILL. IN OTHER WORDS, IT IS A

04:31:18.095 --> 04:31:20.430
SOLUTION IN SEARCH OF A PROBLEM,

04:31:20.497 --> 04:31:21.865
JUST A VERY SHORT PERIOD OF

04:31:21.932 --> 04:31:23.834
TIME AGO, TWO THIRDS OF THE

04:31:23.900 --> 04:31:25.369
STATE OF CALIFORNIA CAME

04:31:25.435 --> 04:31:27.504
TOGETHER AND SAID, PROP 36 IS

04:31:27.571 --> 04:31:30.741
THE LAW OF THE LAND. AND I

04:31:30.807 --> 04:31:32.976
THINK, UNFORTUNATELY, THIS BILL

04:31:33.043 --> 04:31:34.244
AS DRAFTED, I UNDERSTAND

04:31:34.311 --> 04:31:35.912
THERE'S AMENDMENTS, AND I WANT

04:31:35.979 --> 04:31:38.982
TO ALSO STRESS THE AUTHOR'S

04:31:39.049 --> 04:31:40.450
OFFICE, HER CHIEF OF STAFF,

04:31:40.517 --> 04:31:42.653
WHO'S HERE, YOUR STAFF? THEY

04:31:42.719 --> 04:31:44.054
WERE VERY GRACIOUS. I MET WITH

04:31:44.121 --> 04:31:46.623
THEM OVER THE LAST WEEK AND

04:31:46.690 --> 04:31:47.991
VERY UNDERSTANDABLE LISTENING

04:31:48.058 --> 04:31:51.261
TO THE CONCERNS AS THAT GOES.

04:31:51.328 --> 04:31:53.497
HOWEVER, IT'S INESCAPABLE THAT

04:31:53.563 --> 04:31:56.700
IT WILL UNNECESSARILY UNDERMINE

04:31:56.767 --> 04:31:58.769
THE WILL OF TWO THIRDS OF THE

04:31:58.835 --> 04:32:00.237
VOTERS IN THE STATE OF

04:32:00.303 --> 04:32:00.904
CALIFORNIA. AND FOR THAT, I

04:32:00.971 --> 04:32:03.507
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR A NO VOTE.

04:32:03.573 --> 04:32:05.609
MR. CHAIR, ON BEHALF OF THE

04:32:05.676 --> 04:32:06.743
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS

04:32:06.810 --> 04:32:08.245
ASSOCIATION, IN OPPOSITION TO

04:32:08.311 --> 04:32:09.780
THE BILL, ALSO WOULD LIKE TO

04:32:09.846 --> 04:32:10.847
REGISTER THE OPPOSITION OF THE

04:32:10.914 --> 04:32:11.848
CHIEF PROBATION OFFICERS OF

04:32:11.915 --> 04:32:13.617
CALIFORNIA. CALIFORNIA ALREADY

04:32:13.684 --> 04:32:15.686
HAS NUMEROUS TARGETED DIVERSION

04:32:15.752 --> 04:32:17.187
PROGRAMS FOCUSED ON OFFENDERS

04:32:17.254 --> 04:32:18.288
UNDERLYING CONDITION OR

04:32:18.355 --> 04:32:20.257
REHABILITATIVE NEEDS, INCLUDING

04:32:20.323 --> 04:32:21.525
JUST A FEW MENTAL HEALTH

04:32:21.591 --> 04:32:23.060
DIVERSION, VETERANS DIVERSION,

04:32:23.126 --> 04:32:23.727
COLLABORATIVE COURTS, YOUTH

04:32:23.794 --> 04:32:25.429
OFFENDER PROGRAMS AND TREATMENT

04:32:25.495 --> 04:32:27.631
DIVERSION. IN FACT, JUST A FEW

04:32:27.698 --> 04:32:29.800
YEARS AGO, CALIFORNIA LAW WAS

04:32:29.866 --> 04:32:31.101
AMENDED TO GIVE THE PROSECUTOR

04:32:31.168 --> 04:32:32.302
COUNTY PROBATION DEPARTMENT THE

04:32:32.369 --> 04:32:33.670
AUTHORITY TO CREATE A DIVERSION

04:32:33.737 --> 04:32:35.272
OR DJ PROGRAM FOR PERSONS WHO

04:32:35.338 --> 04:32:36.673
COMMIT A THEFT OFFENSE OR

04:32:36.740 --> 04:32:38.075
REPEAT THEFT OFFENSES. THAT'S

04:32:38.141 --> 04:32:42.112
PENAL CODE SECTION 1001.81. IN

04:32:42.179 --> 04:32:43.113
ADDITION, THERE'S ALSO PENAL

04:32:43.180 --> 04:32:46.516
CODE SECTION 1001.95, WHICH IS

04:32:46.583 --> 04:32:48.118
A VERY BROAD MISDEMEANOR

04:32:48.185 --> 04:32:50.053
DIVERSION PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS A

04:32:50.120 --> 04:32:51.388
JUDGE OVER THE OBJECTION OF THE

04:32:51.455 --> 04:32:52.823
DISTRICT ATTORNEY TO OFFER

04:32:52.889 --> 04:32:54.157
DIVERSION IN A WHOLE HOST OF

04:32:54.224 --> 04:32:56.460
CASES, WITH VERY FEW EXCEPTIONS,

04:32:56.526 --> 04:32:57.861
LIKE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND

04:32:57.928 --> 04:33:00.363
STALKING. SO TWO VERY SPECIFIC

04:33:00.430 --> 04:33:01.765
MISDEMEANOR DIVERSION PROGRAMS

04:33:01.832 --> 04:33:03.567
THAT CAN BE USED FOR THEFT

04:33:03.633 --> 04:33:05.769
TODAY AS WE SIT HERE. BUT

04:33:05.836 --> 04:33:07.237
INSTEAD OF RELYING ON LOCAL

04:33:07.304 --> 04:33:08.238
DISCRETION, THOSE PROGRAMS THAT

04:33:08.305 --> 04:33:09.339
ARE ALREADY IN PLACE, THIS

04:33:09.406 --> 04:33:10.841
MANDATES A NEW DIVERSION

04:33:10.907 --> 04:33:11.908
FRAMEWORK THAT IGNORES A

04:33:11.975 --> 04:33:13.677
DEFENDANT'S CRIMINAL HISTORY,

04:33:13.744 --> 04:33:15.078
INCLUDING ANY EVIDENCE OF

04:33:15.145 --> 04:33:17.013
REPEAT THEFT PATTERNS. THIS

04:33:17.080 --> 04:33:18.415
WOULD ALLOW MANY QUALIFYING

04:33:18.482 --> 04:33:20.150
THEFT CASES TO BE DIVERTED AND

04:33:20.217 --> 04:33:20.851
DISMISSED, WITH THE ARREST

04:33:20.917 --> 04:33:22.586
DEEMED NOT TO HAVE OCCURRED FOR

04:33:22.652 --> 04:33:24.087
MOST PURPOSES. UPON SUCCESSFUL

04:33:24.154 --> 04:33:26.056
COMPLETION OF DIVERSION. THAT.

04:33:26.123 --> 04:33:28.458
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT IS, AS

04:33:28.525 --> 04:33:30.227
THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY SAID,

04:33:30.293 --> 04:33:31.728
YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO GET TO A

04:33:31.795 --> 04:33:33.864
PENAL CODE SIX, SIX, 6.1

04:33:33.930 --> 04:33:35.665
VIOLATION OF A THEFT WITH AT

04:33:35.732 --> 04:33:37.467
LEAST TWO PRIORS. IF YOU NEVER

04:33:37.534 --> 04:33:39.236
HAVE A FIRST OR SECOND

04:33:39.302 --> 04:33:40.704
PREDICATE OFFENSE BEING ABLE TO

04:33:40.771 --> 04:33:42.906
BE PROSECUTED. THIS IS

04:33:42.973 --> 04:33:45.008
ABSOLUTELY IT MAY NOT IMPACT

04:33:45.075 --> 04:33:48.278
PC6 66.1. WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT

04:33:48.345 --> 04:33:50.747
THIS IS STILL AN ATTACK ON THE

04:33:50.814 --> 04:33:52.048
THEFT ACCOUNTABILITY PROVISIONS

04:33:52.115 --> 04:33:54.017
OF PROP 36, WHICH WAS

04:33:54.084 --> 04:33:54.751
OVERWHELMINGLY APPROVED BY

04:33:54.818 --> 04:33:56.119
VOTERS. FOR THOSE REASONS, WE

04:33:56.186 --> 04:33:58.321
ASK FOR YOUR NO VOTE. THANK YOU.

04:33:58.388 --> 04:33:59.556
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE

04:33:59.623 --> 04:34:01.258
ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

04:34:01.324 --> 04:34:03.193
OPPOSITION TO AB 2108 TO PLEASE

04:34:03.260 --> 04:34:04.294
APPROACH THE MICROPHONE. STATE

04:34:04.361 --> 04:34:05.262
YOUR NAME, ORGANIZATION

04:34:05.328 --> 04:34:07.430
POSITION CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE

04:34:07.497 --> 04:34:08.532
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS

04:34:08.598 --> 04:34:09.566
ASSOCIATION RESPECTFUL

04:34:09.633 --> 04:34:11.067
OPPOSITION ALSO BEEN ASKED TO

04:34:11.134 --> 04:34:12.803
CONVEY AN OPPOSITION POSITION

04:34:12.869 --> 04:34:14.638
ON BEHALF OF PORAC. THANK YOU.

04:34:14.704 --> 04:34:17.941
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. IVY

04:34:18.008 --> 04:34:19.009
FITZPATRICK ON BEHALF OF THE

04:34:19.075 --> 04:34:20.010
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

04:34:20.076 --> 04:34:21.144
OFFICE AND THE RIVERSIDE

04:34:21.211 --> 04:34:22.546
DISTRICT DISTRICT ATTORNEYS

04:34:22.612 --> 04:34:23.547
ASSOCIATION AND THE RIVERSIDE

04:34:23.613 --> 04:34:24.381
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

04:34:24.447 --> 04:34:25.782
OFFICE AND RESPECTFUL

04:34:25.849 --> 04:34:29.386
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. GOOD

04:34:29.452 --> 04:34:31.188
AFTERNOON, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

04:34:31.254 --> 04:34:33.623
MY NAME IS NOT ON BEHALF OF SAN

04:34:33.690 --> 04:34:34.624
DIEGO COUNTY SHERIFF KELLY

04:34:34.691 --> 04:34:35.859
MARTINEZ IN RESPECTFUL

04:34:35.926 --> 04:34:38.728
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. GOOD

04:34:38.795 --> 04:34:39.863
AFTERNOON. PAT ESPINOSA, ON

04:34:39.930 --> 04:34:41.498
BEHALF OF THE SAN DIEGO COUNTY

04:34:41.565 --> 04:34:42.499
DA'S OFFICE IN OPPOSITION.

04:34:42.566 --> 04:34:45.268
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR.

04:34:45.335 --> 04:34:46.803
CHAIR. MEMBERS, ON BEHALF OF

04:34:46.870 --> 04:34:47.804
THE CALIFORNIA BUSINESS

04:34:47.871 --> 04:34:48.872
PROPERTIES ASSOCIATION, WE HAVE

04:34:48.939 --> 04:34:50.440
AN OPPOSING AMENDED POSITION.

04:34:50.507 --> 04:34:52.843
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

04:34:52.909 --> 04:34:54.110
SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME FORWARD

04:34:54.177 --> 04:34:55.145
TO EXPRESS OPPOSITION TO THE

04:34:55.212 --> 04:34:56.980
BILL, I BRING IT BACK TO THE

04:34:57.047 --> 04:34:58.148
COMMITTEE FOR ANY QUESTIONS OR

04:34:58.215 --> 04:34:59.850
COMMENTS AT THIS TIME. YES,

04:34:59.916 --> 04:35:00.951
SENATOR WIENER, THANK YOU VERY

04:35:01.017 --> 04:35:01.985
MUCH. ASSEMBLY MEMBER. THANKS

04:35:02.052 --> 04:35:02.986
FOR THE BILL. I'LL BE

04:35:03.053 --> 04:35:04.688
SUPPORTING IT TODAY, AND I

04:35:04.754 --> 04:35:05.956
APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH THE

04:35:06.022 --> 04:35:08.391
COMMITTEE ON AMENDMENTS. ONE

04:35:08.458 --> 04:35:09.426
QUESTION I HAVE, WHICH IS, I

04:35:09.492 --> 04:35:10.627
THINK, ONE OF THE TANGENTIAL

04:35:10.694 --> 04:35:13.296
THINGS IN THE BILL THAT I KNOW

04:35:13.363 --> 04:35:16.833
MY MY DA RAISED WITH ME IS THAT

04:35:16.900 --> 04:35:19.803
THE BILL REQUIRES THE DA AT THE

04:35:19.870 --> 04:35:21.972
BEGINNING TO STATE OR CERTIFY

04:35:22.038 --> 04:35:25.609
WHETHER THE CASE IS ELIGIBLE OR

04:35:25.675 --> 04:35:28.144
NOT ELIGIBLE FOR DIVERSION. AND

04:35:28.211 --> 04:35:29.446
I THINK MY UNDERSTANDING IS

04:35:29.512 --> 04:35:31.748
THAT'S NOT NORMALLY HOW THE

04:35:31.815 --> 04:35:33.316
PROCESS WORKS WITH DIVERSION.

04:35:33.383 --> 04:35:35.318
AND SO IF YOU COULD COMMENT ON

04:35:35.385 --> 04:35:36.386
THAT, LIKE WHAT WAS THE

04:35:36.453 --> 04:35:38.488
RATIONALE FOR PUTTING THAT IN,

04:35:38.555 --> 04:35:40.757
SINCE THERE IS AN EXISTING SORT

04:35:40.824 --> 04:35:44.628
OF PROCESS FOR DETERMINING THAT?

04:35:44.694 --> 04:35:46.129
AGAIN, I KNOW THAT'S SORT OF

04:35:46.196 --> 04:35:47.664
TANGENTIAL TO THE BILL, BUT MY

04:35:47.731 --> 04:35:50.333
MY D.A. DID ASK ME ABOUT THAT.

04:35:50.400 --> 04:35:52.168
NO PROBLEM. I'LL TURN IT OVER.

04:35:52.235 --> 04:35:54.371
THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU,

04:35:54.437 --> 04:35:56.206
SENATOR, FOR THAT QUESTION. I

04:35:56.273 --> 04:35:57.941
MEAN, DIVERSION THROUGHOUT

04:35:58.008 --> 04:35:59.743
STATUTES LOOKS DIFFERENT. AND

04:35:59.809 --> 04:36:01.945
SO I NOT EVERY SINGLE DIVERSION

04:36:02.012 --> 04:36:03.780
WILL REQUIRE SOME SOME OF IT IS

04:36:03.847 --> 04:36:05.715
JUDGED ON COURT LED. SOME OF IT

04:36:05.782 --> 04:36:07.017
IS LED BY THE PUBLIC DEFENDER.

04:36:07.083 --> 04:36:09.819
WE BASED THIS OFF OF PC 1000.

04:36:09.886 --> 04:36:10.921
THAT'S THE CONSIDERATION

04:36:10.987 --> 04:36:12.389
PROCESS FOR DRUG DIVERSION,

04:36:12.455 --> 04:36:13.890
WHICH DOES HAVE THE DA'S LOOK

04:36:13.957 --> 04:36:15.225
AND CERTIFY CASE. SO THAT'S

04:36:15.292 --> 04:36:17.127
WHERE IT ACTUALLY IS IN PC 1000.

04:36:17.193 --> 04:36:18.862
THAT'S WHERE WE GOT THIS FROM.

04:36:18.929 --> 04:36:19.963
AND WE WANTED TO TAKE THE

04:36:20.030 --> 04:36:21.564
BURDEN OFF OF THE DEFENSE OR

04:36:21.631 --> 04:36:22.799
THE COURT TO HAVE TO INITIATE

04:36:22.866 --> 04:36:24.234
THE DIVERSION, STARTING THE

04:36:24.301 --> 04:36:28.271
DIVERSION PROCESS. OKAY. OKAY.

04:36:28.338 --> 04:36:30.707
YEAH, MAYBE IT MIGHT BE GOOD TO

04:36:30.774 --> 04:36:33.643
TAKE ANOTHER LOOK. I FOR ME,

04:36:33.710 --> 04:36:35.078
APART FROM THE SUBSTANCE OF

04:36:35.145 --> 04:36:36.513
DIVERSION, JUST MAKING SURE

04:36:36.579 --> 04:36:39.382
THAT IT'S A GOOD AND REASONABLE

04:36:39.449 --> 04:36:40.583
PROCESS IS OF COURSE IMPORTANT.

04:36:40.650 --> 04:36:42.719
SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. OKAY.

04:36:42.786 --> 04:36:44.721
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE ARE ON

04:36:44.788 --> 04:36:50.894
ASSEMBLY BILL 2108. SHARP

04:36:50.961 --> 04:36:55.265
COLLINS. AND SO I'LL ASK IF

04:36:55.332 --> 04:36:56.466
THERE ARE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

04:36:56.533 --> 04:36:57.534
OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMITTEE.

04:36:57.600 --> 04:36:58.768
JUST TO SUMMARIZE THE

04:36:58.835 --> 04:37:02.772
AMENDMENTS. ONE TO CLARIFY

04:37:02.839 --> 04:37:07.043
UNDER 1001 .91, SUBSECTION A,

04:37:07.110 --> 04:37:09.646
THAT OF THE CRITERIA TO BE

04:37:09.713 --> 04:37:14.684
CONSIDERED AS TO A DEFENDANT'S

04:37:14.751 --> 04:37:16.886
SUITABILITY FOR DIVERSION. TO

04:37:16.953 --> 04:37:18.021
CLARIFY THAT THE OFFENSE CHARGE

04:37:18.088 --> 04:37:21.224
IS NOT A FELONY, AND TWO, TO

04:37:21.291 --> 04:37:23.326
PROVIDE A DEFINITION OF WHAT A

04:37:23.393 --> 04:37:25.061
CONTEMPORANEOUS VIOLATION MEANS,

04:37:25.128 --> 04:37:28.665
WHICH IS BASED ON, I THINK,

04:37:28.732 --> 04:37:32.669
EXISTING LAW. YES. SO WITH THAT,

04:37:32.736 --> 04:37:34.070
I'LL ASK IF THERE ARE ANY

04:37:34.137 --> 04:37:37.073
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. IF NOT,

04:37:37.140 --> 04:37:38.641
I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE

04:37:38.708 --> 04:37:40.276
AUTHOR TO CLOSE. THANK YOU.

04:37:40.343 --> 04:37:41.878
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE

04:37:41.945 --> 04:37:43.079
OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TO

04:37:43.146 --> 04:37:46.383
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL 2108. YOU

04:37:46.449 --> 04:37:48.318
KNOW, I WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW AND

04:37:48.385 --> 04:37:50.987
UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WHOLE

04:37:51.054 --> 04:37:52.822
APPROACH HAS COME OUT OF ME

04:37:52.889 --> 04:37:54.257
HAVING QUARTERLY PROP 36

04:37:54.324 --> 04:37:56.059
MEETINGS THROUGHOUT MY ACTUAL

04:37:56.126 --> 04:37:57.193
DISTRICT. THAT DID CONSIST OF,

04:37:57.260 --> 04:37:58.528
OF COURSE, SOME OF MY MY, MY

04:37:58.595 --> 04:38:00.363
FOLKS WAS HERE, THE SHERIFF'S

04:38:00.430 --> 04:38:02.165
DEPARTMENT, PROBATION COMMUNITY

04:38:02.232 --> 04:38:03.967
PARTNERS, COUNTY OFFICERS,

04:38:04.034 --> 04:38:05.268
ELECTED OFFICIALS, AND A HOST

04:38:05.335 --> 04:38:07.837
OF OTHERS. AND THE WHOLE THING

04:38:07.904 --> 04:38:09.739
IS THIS DIVERSION IS A

04:38:09.806 --> 04:38:11.141
RECOGNITION IN SECOND CHANCES,

04:38:11.207 --> 04:38:13.710
AND IT TRULY HAS THE POWER TO

04:38:13.777 --> 04:38:14.811
REHABILITATE. IT IS NOT A GET

04:38:14.878 --> 04:38:16.780
OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD, BUT IT

04:38:16.846 --> 04:38:18.715
IS A TRUE COMMITMENT TO DO THE

04:38:18.782 --> 04:38:19.783
HARDEST WORK POSSIBLE, WHICH IS

04:38:19.849 --> 04:38:22.685
WORKING ON YOURSELF. IN MY

04:38:22.752 --> 04:38:24.354
PERSONAL OPINION, AS I SAID ON

04:38:24.421 --> 04:38:25.922
THE ASSEMBLY FLOOR, EVERYBODY

04:38:25.989 --> 04:38:27.390
HAS SOMETHING. EVERYBODY HAS

04:38:27.457 --> 04:38:28.425
SOMETHING EITHER IN THEIR

04:38:28.491 --> 04:38:29.826
BACKGROUND THAT THEY ARE NOT

04:38:29.893 --> 04:38:31.061
PROUD OF, OR THEY KNOW SOMEONE

04:38:31.127 --> 04:38:32.796
WHO TRULY DESERVES A SECOND

04:38:32.862 --> 04:38:34.564
CHANCE BASED OFF OF AN ACTUAL

04:38:34.631 --> 04:38:36.332
MINOR OFFENSE. YOUR VOTE TODAY

04:38:36.399 --> 04:38:38.501
WILL TELL US, WILL REALLY TELL

04:38:38.568 --> 04:38:40.036
CALIFORNIA WHETHER OR NOT WE

04:38:40.103 --> 04:38:42.105
ARE TRULY BELIEVERS OF THE

04:38:42.172 --> 04:38:43.206
PURPOSE OF HAVING THESE

04:38:43.273 --> 04:38:44.641
PROGRAMS TO HELP TO

04:38:44.707 --> 04:38:46.443
REHABILITATE. SO ASSEMBLY BILL

04:38:46.509 --> 04:38:47.877
2108 ALLOWS THAT OPPORTUNITY

04:38:47.944 --> 04:38:49.312
WHILE WORKING TO REDUCE CRIME

04:38:49.379 --> 04:38:51.147
LEVELS AND ALSO CHANGE LIVES.

04:38:51.214 --> 04:38:53.283
IF WE DON'T SHOW FOLKS THAT WE

04:38:53.349 --> 04:38:54.751
TRULY BELIEVE IN THEM AND

04:38:54.818 --> 04:38:55.785
PROVIDE THEM THE ACTUAL

04:38:55.852 --> 04:38:57.053
SUPPORTS THAT SOME AS OTHERWISE

04:38:57.120 --> 04:38:58.755
HAVE ACTUALLY HAVE NOT BEEN

04:38:58.822 --> 04:38:59.889
ABLE TO GAIN, THEN WE WILL

04:38:59.956 --> 04:39:01.191
CONTINUE DOWN THE PATHWAY THAT

04:39:01.257 --> 04:39:02.659
WE CURRENTLY ARE. PEOPLE

04:39:02.725 --> 04:39:04.160
DESERVE TO HAVE QUALITY OF LIFE

04:39:04.227 --> 04:39:05.295
AND NOT JUST SURVIVE, BUT

04:39:05.361 --> 04:39:07.063
THRIVE HERE IN THE STATE OF

04:39:07.130 --> 04:39:08.164
CALIFORNIA. AND THIS BILL WILL

04:39:08.231 --> 04:39:09.232
ALLOW THEM TO GET THAT

04:39:09.299 --> 04:39:10.300
OPPORTUNITY AND GRANT ACCESS.

04:39:10.366 --> 04:39:11.634
WITH THAT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK

04:39:11.701 --> 04:39:13.203
FOR AND I VOTE. THANK YOU SO

04:39:13.269 --> 04:39:15.271
VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A QUORUM.

04:39:15.338 --> 04:39:16.639
FINALLY. SO THE COMMITTEE

04:39:16.706 --> 04:39:17.740
ASSISTANT WILL CALL THE ROLL TO

04:39:17.807 --> 04:39:19.943
ESTABLISH A QUORUM AGAIN HERE,

04:39:20.009 --> 04:39:22.445
AGAIN HERE, SAY HERE, SAY HERE.

04:39:22.512 --> 04:39:24.214
CABALLERO. CABALLERO. HERE.

04:39:24.280 --> 04:39:26.750
CORTESE. PEREZ. WIENER. PRESENT.

04:39:26.816 --> 04:39:28.885
WIENER HERE. OKAY. AND I WILL

04:39:28.952 --> 04:39:31.788
NOW ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON AB

04:39:31.855 --> 04:39:38.628
2108. THERE'S A MOTION. OKAY.

04:39:38.695 --> 04:39:40.797
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WE

04:39:40.864 --> 04:39:41.865
HAVE A MOTION BY SENATOR

04:39:41.931 --> 04:39:44.367
CABALLERO. IF WE CAN PLEASE

04:39:44.434 --> 04:39:45.568
CALL THE ROLL. AB 2108 MOTION

04:39:45.635 --> 04:39:47.370
IS TO PASS AS AMENDED TO

04:39:47.437 --> 04:39:48.438
APPROPRIATIONS. AGAIN. I AGAIN

04:39:48.505 --> 04:39:51.174
I SAY NO. NO. CABALLERO.

04:39:51.241 --> 04:39:53.376
CABALLERO. AYE. CORTESE. PEREZ.

04:39:53.443 --> 04:39:55.178
WIENER. WIENER. AYE. OKAY.

04:39:55.245 --> 04:39:56.312
WE'LL KEEP THAT BILL IN CALL

04:39:56.379 --> 04:39:57.480
FOR ABSENT MEMBERS. THANK YOU

04:39:57.547 --> 04:39:59.282
ALL VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. I'LL

04:39:59.349 --> 04:40:00.283
ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE

04:40:00.350 --> 04:40:03.086
CONSENT CALENDAR. MOVE BY

04:40:03.153 --> 04:40:06.055
SENATOR VICE CHAIR CIERTO, WE

04:40:06.122 --> 04:40:08.124
CAN PLEASE CALL THE ROLL OUT OF

04:40:08.191 --> 04:40:13.129
GAME I, I SAY I SAY I CABALLERO

04:40:13.196 --> 04:40:16.466
I CABALLERO I CORTEZ PEREZ

04:40:16.533 --> 04:40:19.769
WIENER I WIENER AYE. OKAY.

04:40:19.836 --> 04:40:22.539
WE'LL KEEP CONSENT ON CALL. AND

04:40:22.605 --> 04:40:24.707
SO I HAVE IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE

04:40:24.774 --> 04:40:26.342
I CHAIR TWO STANDING COMMITTEES

04:40:26.409 --> 04:40:28.344
OF THE SENATE. SO I HAVE TO GO

04:40:28.411 --> 04:40:29.445
GAVEL IN THE SENATE HOUSING

04:40:29.512 --> 04:40:30.513
COMMITTEE. AND SO MR. VICE

04:40:30.580 --> 04:40:32.382
CHAIR, I WILL BE BACK IF YOU

04:40:32.448 --> 04:40:33.716
CAN. PLEASE TAKE OVER. THANK

04:40:33.783 --> 04:40:36.653
YOU. AND AND I BELIEVE THE NEXT

04:40:36.719 --> 04:40:41.024
NEXT BILL IS SENATOR SCHULTZ

04:40:41.090 --> 04:40:47.363
AND THEN MCKENNA. ARE YOU READY

04:40:47.430 --> 04:40:50.300
FOR ME, MR. VICE CHAIR? GO

04:40:50.366 --> 04:40:54.571
AHEAD. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU,

04:40:54.637 --> 04:40:56.739
THANK YOU. IT IS, SIR. THANK

04:40:56.806 --> 04:40:59.209
YOU. VERY GOOD. WHEN YOU'RE

04:40:59.275 --> 04:41:01.477
READY, GO AHEAD. WELL, THANK

04:41:01.544 --> 04:41:03.046
YOU VERY MUCH, MR. VICE CHAIR

04:41:03.112 --> 04:41:04.113
AND COLLEAGUES. I'M PLEASED TO

04:41:04.180 --> 04:41:06.449
PRESENT ASSEMBLY BILL 1905 THIS

04:41:06.516 --> 04:41:07.517
AFTERNOON, WHICH WILL

04:41:07.584 --> 04:41:08.318
STRENGTHEN PROTECTIONS FOR

04:41:08.384 --> 04:41:10.019
YOUNG PEOPLE IN CUSTODY BY

04:41:10.086 --> 04:41:11.487
ESTABLISHING CLEAR GUARDRAILS

04:41:11.554 --> 04:41:13.623
AROUND CUSTODIAL INTERROGATION.

04:41:13.690 --> 04:41:15.258
FIRST, SOME BACKGROUND RESEARCH

04:41:15.325 --> 04:41:16.526
HAS INCREASINGLY FOUND THAT

04:41:16.593 --> 04:41:17.794
JUVENILES ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE

04:41:17.860 --> 04:41:19.762
TO PRESSURE MANIPULATION AND

04:41:19.829 --> 04:41:20.897
DECEPTION WHILE BEING

04:41:20.964 --> 04:41:22.298
INTERROGATED, WHICH INCREASES

04:41:22.365 --> 04:41:24.801
THE RISK OF FOR COERCED AND

04:41:24.867 --> 04:41:25.902
UNRELIABLE STATEMENTS OR

04:41:25.969 --> 04:41:27.036
CONFESSIONS. AND BEFORE I GO ON,

04:41:27.103 --> 04:41:28.905
I'LL JUST NOTE THAT IS WHY

04:41:28.972 --> 04:41:29.973
WE'RE RUNNING THIS BILL, WHICH

04:41:30.039 --> 04:41:31.274
TO A LARGE DEGREE IS ALREADY

04:41:31.341 --> 04:41:32.542
CODIFIED, ARGUABLY IN WELFARE

04:41:32.609 --> 04:41:35.612
AND INSTITUTIONS. CODE, SECTION

04:41:35.678 --> 04:41:37.413
625.7, SUBDIVISION A, WHICH

04:41:37.480 --> 04:41:38.448
PROHIBITS THE USE OF

04:41:38.514 --> 04:41:39.549
MANIPULATION AND DECEPTIVE

04:41:39.616 --> 04:41:41.351
TACTICS AGAINST MINORS. BUT

04:41:41.417 --> 04:41:42.819
REGARDLESS, THE RISK IS

04:41:42.885 --> 04:41:43.886
PARTICULARLY HEIGHTENED WHEN

04:41:43.953 --> 04:41:45.688
JUVENILES ARE INTERACTING WITH

04:41:45.755 --> 04:41:46.789
UNDERCOVER LAW ENFORCEMENT

04:41:46.856 --> 04:41:48.591
AGENTS. NOW, CALIFORNIA HAS NOT

04:41:48.658 --> 04:41:50.360
YET IMPLEMENTED CLEAR STATUTORY

04:41:50.426 --> 04:41:52.195
LIMITS ON THE USE OF UNDERCOVER

04:41:52.262 --> 04:41:53.630
TACTICS DURING CUSTODIAL

04:41:53.696 --> 04:41:54.664
INTERROGATIONS IN A CUSTODIAL

04:41:54.731 --> 04:41:56.165
SETTING, HENCE THE PURPOSE OF

04:41:56.232 --> 04:41:57.900
THE BILL. TO FURTHER CLARIFY.

04:41:57.967 --> 04:41:59.736
I'LL NOTE THAT THIS THIS

04:41:59.802 --> 04:42:01.204
PHENOMENON CAN RESULT IN

04:42:01.271 --> 04:42:02.105
OFFICERS ELICITING STATEMENTS

04:42:02.171 --> 04:42:03.306
THAT ARE NOT CREDIBLE OR

04:42:03.373 --> 04:42:04.407
LAWFULLY OBTAINED, LEADING TO

04:42:04.474 --> 04:42:06.542
BOTH COSTLY LITIGATION OVER

04:42:06.609 --> 04:42:07.977
ADMISSIBILITY AND ULTIMATELY

04:42:08.044 --> 04:42:09.479
BOGGING DOWN THE JUDICIAL

04:42:09.545 --> 04:42:12.382
SYSTEM. AB 1905 SEEKS TO CHANGE

04:42:12.448 --> 04:42:13.983
THAT. AB 1905 WOULD PROHIBIT

04:42:14.050 --> 04:42:15.184
THE USE OF UNDERCOVER LAW

04:42:15.251 --> 04:42:16.352
ENFORCEMENT AGENTS TO SEEK

04:42:16.419 --> 04:42:18.087
STATEMENTS FROM INDIVIDUALS IN

04:42:18.154 --> 04:42:20.189
CUSTODY WHO ARE 17 YEARS OF AGE

04:42:20.256 --> 04:42:21.391
OR YOUNGER AT THE TIME OF THE

04:42:21.457 --> 04:42:23.192
ALLEGED OFFENSE, AND ARE 26

04:42:23.259 --> 04:42:24.260
YEARS OR YOUNGER WHILE IN

04:42:24.327 --> 04:42:25.628
CUSTODY. AND I WANT TO THANK

04:42:25.695 --> 04:42:27.096
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS

04:42:27.163 --> 04:42:28.164
ASSOCIATION AND OTHER

04:42:28.231 --> 04:42:29.599
ORGANIZATIONS FOR WORKING SO

04:42:29.666 --> 04:42:31.034
COLLABORATIVELY WITH OUR OFFICE

04:42:31.100 --> 04:42:33.169
ON THOSE AMENDMENTS. THE BILL

04:42:33.236 --> 04:42:34.671
FORTIFIES THE INTEGRITY OF OUR

04:42:34.737 --> 04:42:36.072
JUDICIAL SYSTEM AND REDUCES THE

04:42:36.139 --> 04:42:37.540
RISK OF UNRELIABLE STATEMENTS

04:42:37.607 --> 04:42:38.908
BY CREATING A CONSISTENT AND

04:42:38.975 --> 04:42:40.443
CLEAR STATEWIDE STANDARD TO

04:42:40.510 --> 04:42:42.245
PREVENT CONSTITUTIONALLY

04:42:42.312 --> 04:42:43.646
QUESTIONABLE INTERROGATIONS,

04:42:43.713 --> 04:42:45.448
AND DIRECTS COURTS TO CONSIDER

04:42:45.515 --> 04:42:47.283
VIOLATIONS. WHEN DETERMINING

04:42:47.350 --> 04:42:48.885
ADMISSIBILITY, IT'S IMPORTANT

04:42:48.951 --> 04:42:50.486
TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE BILL NOW

04:42:50.553 --> 04:42:51.954
ONLY APPLIES AGAIN TO

04:42:52.021 --> 04:42:53.022
INDIVIDUALS IN CUSTODY WHO ARE

04:42:53.089 --> 04:42:54.824
26 YEARS AND YOUNGER, AND THAT

04:42:54.891 --> 04:42:56.225
IS AFTER WORKING CLOSELY WITH

04:42:56.292 --> 04:42:58.061
K¾T A A AND OPPOSITION TO

04:42:58.127 --> 04:42:59.829
ADDRESS THEIR CONCERNS. AS I

04:42:59.896 --> 04:43:00.897
MENTIONED, THIS REFLECTS

04:43:00.963 --> 04:43:02.765
ANOTHER PORTION OF NOT ONLY THE

04:43:02.832 --> 04:43:04.567
PENAL CODE, BUT THE WELFARE AND

04:43:04.634 --> 04:43:05.601
INSTITUTIONS CODE. AND THE

04:43:05.668 --> 04:43:07.036
RECENT CHANGE SIGNIFICANTLY

04:43:07.103 --> 04:43:08.104
NARROWS THE SCOPE OF THE BILL

04:43:08.171 --> 04:43:09.572
WHILE STILL ADDRESSING THE

04:43:09.639 --> 04:43:11.341
UNIQUE SUSCEPTIBILITY TO

04:43:11.407 --> 04:43:12.809
DECEPTION AND MANIPULATION

04:43:12.875 --> 04:43:14.243
AMONG THIS VULNERABLE

04:43:14.310 --> 04:43:16.412
POPULATION. FINAL NOTE, MR.

04:43:16.479 --> 04:43:17.113
VICE CHAIR, WE HAVE

04:43:17.180 --> 04:43:18.715
ADDITIONALLY AGREED WITH K¾T Ã

04:43:18.781 --> 04:43:20.717
TO INCLUDE A RETROACTIVITY

04:43:20.783 --> 04:43:22.185
PROVISION ENSURING THAT ACTIVE

04:43:22.251 --> 04:43:23.953
CRIMINAL CASES WILL NOT BE

04:43:24.020 --> 04:43:25.455
IMPACTED. WE CONTINUE TO HAVE

04:43:25.521 --> 04:43:27.223
ONGOING CONVERSATIONS WITH K¾T

04:43:27.290 --> 04:43:28.858
à ON AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT,

04:43:28.925 --> 04:43:30.793
AND WE REMAIN EVER HOPEFUL.

04:43:30.860 --> 04:43:31.994
HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL THAT WE'LL

04:43:32.061 --> 04:43:33.896
BE ABLE TO MOVE THEM TO NEUTRAL

04:43:33.963 --> 04:43:36.933
WITH THESE CHANGES. AB 1905

04:43:37.000 --> 04:43:38.000
WILL CREATE A CONSISTENT AND

04:43:38.067 --> 04:43:39.435
CLEAR STATEWIDE STANDARD AND AT

04:43:39.502 --> 04:43:40.903
THE APPROPRIATE TIME, MR. VICE

04:43:40.970 --> 04:43:42.038
CHAIR, I'LL RESPECTFULLY ASK

04:43:42.105 --> 04:43:43.740
FOR AN AYE VOTE. TESTIFYING IN

04:43:43.806 --> 04:43:45.174
SUPPORT TODAY, I HAVE JASMINE

04:43:45.241 --> 04:43:46.709
HARRIS, POLICY DIRECTOR OF THE

04:43:46.776 --> 04:43:48.444
CALIFORNIA INNOCENCE COALITION,

04:43:48.511 --> 04:43:50.279
AND JESSICA JESSICA MALIKIAN,

04:43:50.346 --> 04:43:51.414
DEPUTY ALTERNATE PUBLIC

04:43:51.481 --> 04:43:52.515
DEFENDER WITH THE LOS ANGELES

04:43:52.582 --> 04:43:54.584
WITH LOS ANGELES COUNTY. THANK

04:43:54.650 --> 04:43:55.718
YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE. YOU

04:43:55.785 --> 04:43:57.920
GOT TWO MINUTES EACH. THANK YOU.

04:43:57.987 --> 04:43:59.389
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND VICE

04:43:59.455 --> 04:44:01.391
CHAIR AND MEMBERS. I AM JESSICA

04:44:01.457 --> 04:44:02.725
MALIKIAN. I'M TESTIFYING HERE

04:44:02.792 --> 04:44:03.926
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

04:44:03.993 --> 04:44:06.829
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION.

04:44:06.896 --> 04:44:08.264
YOUNG PEOPLE ARE VULNERABLE TO

04:44:08.331 --> 04:44:09.699
PRESSURE MANIPULATION AND

04:44:09.766 --> 04:44:11.300
COERCIVE INTERROGATION TACTICS,

04:44:11.367 --> 04:44:13.236
AND THIS LEGISLATURE HAS LONG

04:44:13.302 --> 04:44:14.704
RECOGNIZED THIS REALITY AND

04:44:14.771 --> 04:44:16.973
RESPONDED THOUGHTFULLY. SB 395

04:44:17.039 --> 04:44:19.041
AND SB 203 ENSURED YOUTH HAVE

04:44:19.108 --> 04:44:20.476
ACCESS TO COUNSEL BEFORE

04:44:20.543 --> 04:44:22.278
CUSTODIAL INTERROGATION, AND

04:44:22.345 --> 04:44:24.814
MORE RECENTLY, AB 2644

04:44:24.881 --> 04:44:25.915
PROHIBITED LAW ENFORCEMENT FROM

04:44:25.982 --> 04:44:27.683
USING DECEPTION AND

04:44:27.750 --> 04:44:28.751
PSYCHOLOGICALLY MANIPULATIVE

04:44:28.818 --> 04:44:29.852
TACTICS DURING INTERROGATIONS

04:44:29.919 --> 04:44:31.788
OF YOUTH. THESE REFORMS REFLECT

04:44:31.854 --> 04:44:33.423
A CLEAR LEGISLATIVE PURPOSE

04:44:33.489 --> 04:44:34.857
THAT YOUNG PEOPLE REQUIRE

04:44:34.924 --> 04:44:35.925
ADDITIONAL SAFEGUARDS WHEN

04:44:35.992 --> 04:44:37.794
CONFRONTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT,

04:44:37.860 --> 04:44:39.929
A SIGNIFICANT GAP REMAINS.

04:44:39.996 --> 04:44:41.330
WHILE DIRECT INTERROGATIONS ARE

04:44:41.397 --> 04:44:42.999
NOW APPROPRIATELY REGULATED,

04:44:43.065 --> 04:44:44.534
LAW ENFORCEMENT HAS TURNED TO

04:44:44.600 --> 04:44:46.035
AN UNREGULATED AND MORE

04:44:46.102 --> 04:44:47.837
CONCERNING METHOD. USING

04:44:47.904 --> 04:44:49.272
UNDERCOVER AGENTS TO ELICIT

04:44:49.338 --> 04:44:51.140
STATEMENTS. THESE AGENTS EMPLOY

04:44:51.207 --> 04:44:52.508
MANY OF THE SAME METHODS

04:44:52.575 --> 04:44:54.677
PROHIBITED BY AB 2644, BECAUSE

04:44:54.744 --> 04:44:56.412
SUCH PROHIBITIONS DO NOT APPLY

04:44:56.479 --> 04:44:59.382
TO THEM. AB 1905 IS A LOGICAL

04:44:59.449 --> 04:45:00.450
CONTINUATION OF THIS

04:45:00.516 --> 04:45:01.551
LEGISLATURE'S EFFORTS TO

04:45:01.617 --> 04:45:03.352
PROTECT YOUTH. IT APPLIES

04:45:03.419 --> 04:45:05.087
REGARDLESS OF THE FORM THE

04:45:05.154 --> 04:45:07.323
QUESTIONING TAKES AND ENSURES

04:45:07.390 --> 04:45:09.125
PREVIOUS LEGISLATION CANNOT BE

04:45:09.192 --> 04:45:10.560
UNDERMINED SIMPLY BY SHIFTING

04:45:10.626 --> 04:45:11.994
FROM A TRADITIONAL

04:45:12.061 --> 04:45:14.130
INTERROGATION ROOM TO A COVERT

04:45:14.197 --> 04:45:17.033
CUSTODIAL OPERATION. AB 1905 IS

04:45:17.099 --> 04:45:18.367
NARROWLY TAILORED TO APPLY TO

04:45:18.434 --> 04:45:19.936
YOUTH 25 AND UNDER, AS DEFINED

04:45:20.002 --> 04:45:22.405
BY EXISTING CALIFORNIA LAW, AND

04:45:22.472 --> 04:45:23.506
RECOGNIZE AS SHARING

04:45:23.573 --> 04:45:24.474
DEVELOPMENTAL CHARACTERISTICS

04:45:24.540 --> 04:45:26.008
THAT WARRANT SPECIAL

04:45:26.075 --> 04:45:27.076
CONSIDERATION. LIMITING THE

04:45:27.143 --> 04:45:28.911
BILL TO THOSE UNDER 18 WOULD

04:45:28.978 --> 04:45:30.847
CREATE A LOOPHOLE BY ALLOWING

04:45:30.913 --> 04:45:32.248
FOR DELAYING ARREST SOLELY TO

04:45:32.315 --> 04:45:33.916
AVOID THE BILL'S PROTECTIONS.

04:45:33.983 --> 04:45:35.084
SUCH DELAYS, WHICH MY

04:45:35.151 --> 04:45:36.252
COLLEAGUES IN LOS ANGELES HAVE

04:45:36.319 --> 04:45:38.254
SEEN FIRSTHAND, WOULD BE

04:45:38.321 --> 04:45:39.322
DETRIMENTAL TO ALL PARTIES

04:45:39.388 --> 04:45:40.756
INVOLVED, INCLUDING CRIME

04:45:40.823 --> 04:45:42.191
VICTIMS SEEKING TIMELY

04:45:42.258 --> 04:45:43.659
RESOLUTION OF THEIR CASES. THE

04:45:43.726 --> 04:45:45.795
AGE THRESHOLD IN THIS BILL

04:45:45.862 --> 04:45:47.063
ENSURES THE BILL'S PROTECTIONS

04:45:47.129 --> 04:45:48.965
ARE MEANINGFUL, CONSISTENT AND

04:45:49.031 --> 04:45:50.900
NOT EASILY CIRCUMVENTED. AND

04:45:50.967 --> 04:45:52.335
FOR THESE REASONS, I

04:45:52.401 --> 04:45:53.369
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR

04:45:53.436 --> 04:45:54.437
SUPPORT AND THANK YOU FOR

04:45:54.504 --> 04:45:56.272
ADHERING TO THE TWO MINUTE RULE.

04:45:56.339 --> 04:45:58.407
GO AHEAD MA'AM. GOOD AFTERNOON

04:45:58.474 --> 04:46:00.243
EVERYONE. I'M JASMINE HARRIS,

04:46:00.309 --> 04:46:01.310
POLICY DIRECTOR OF THE

04:46:01.377 --> 04:46:03.412
CALIFORNIA INNOCENCE COALITION.

04:46:03.479 --> 04:46:04.947
OUR ORGANIZATIONS HAVE

04:46:05.014 --> 04:46:05.982
COLLECTIVELY HELPED FREE MORE

04:46:06.048 --> 04:46:08.851
THAN 100 INNOCENT CALIFORNIANS.

04:46:08.918 --> 04:46:10.286
AND LOOKING ACROSS THOSE CASES,

04:46:10.353 --> 04:46:12.488
ONE LESSON IS CLEAR WHEN AN

04:46:12.555 --> 04:46:13.556
INVESTIGATION BECOMES CENTERED

04:46:13.623 --> 04:46:15.691
ON A ON A PERSON'S OWN

04:46:15.758 --> 04:46:16.726
STATEMENTS RATHER THAN

04:46:16.792 --> 04:46:18.261
OBJECTIVE EVIDENCE, THE RISK OF

04:46:18.327 --> 04:46:19.996
WRONGFUL CONVICTION INCREASES

04:46:20.062 --> 04:46:21.097
DRAMATICALLY. THAT IS

04:46:21.163 --> 04:46:22.198
ESPECIALLY TRUE WHEN THOSE

04:46:22.265 --> 04:46:23.299
STATEMENTS INVOLVE CONDUCT THAT

04:46:23.366 --> 04:46:25.401
OCCURRED DURING ADOLESCENCE. WE

04:46:25.468 --> 04:46:26.836
KNOW THAT ONCE A CONFESSION OR

04:46:26.903 --> 04:46:28.304
INCRIMINATING STATEMENT IS

04:46:28.371 --> 04:46:29.705
OBTAINED, EVEN ONE THAT IS

04:46:29.772 --> 04:46:30.840
INCOMPLETE, UNRELIABLE, OR

04:46:30.907 --> 04:46:32.241
TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT, IT

04:46:32.308 --> 04:46:34.043
CHANGES THE COURSE OF AN

04:46:34.110 --> 04:46:35.878
INVESTIGATION. IT INFLUENCES

04:46:35.945 --> 04:46:37.313
INVESTIGATIVE DECISIONS, SHAPES,

04:46:37.380 --> 04:46:39.081
CHARGING DECISIONS, AND CARRIES

04:46:39.148 --> 04:46:40.082
ENORMOUS WEIGHTS WITH JURIES

04:46:40.149 --> 04:46:41.517
AND JUDGES. THAT'S WHY THE

04:46:41.584 --> 04:46:43.653
RELIABILITY, RELIABILITY OF

04:46:43.719 --> 04:46:45.087
CONFESSION EVIDENCE MATTERS SO

04:46:45.154 --> 04:46:47.290
MUCH. I'D LIKE TO BRIEFLY

04:46:47.356 --> 04:46:48.391
ADDRESS AN ARGUMENT I'VE SEEN

04:46:48.457 --> 04:46:49.792
IN SOME OF THE OPPOSITION

04:46:49.859 --> 04:46:51.594
LETTERS, AND THAT IS THE CLAIM

04:46:51.661 --> 04:46:53.396
THAT THESE VERY SPECIFIC

04:46:53.462 --> 04:46:55.565
PERKINS OPERATIONS ARE

04:46:55.631 --> 04:46:56.999
NECESSARY TO EXONERATE THE

04:46:57.066 --> 04:46:59.168
WRONGFULLY CONVICTED. THIS IS

04:46:59.235 --> 04:47:00.469
MISLEADING AND MISREPRESENTS

04:47:00.536 --> 04:47:02.772
THE SUCCESS OF THESE OPERATIONS

04:47:02.838 --> 04:47:03.873
OPERATIONS. IN A

04:47:03.940 --> 04:47:05.274
POST-CONVICTION CONTEXT. THESE

04:47:05.341 --> 04:47:07.076
OPERATIONS ARE DONE WITHOUT THE

04:47:07.143 --> 04:47:08.844
PETITIONER'S COUNSEL'S

04:47:08.911 --> 04:47:11.047
KNOWLEDGE OR PRESENCE AND ARE

04:47:11.113 --> 04:47:12.848
CONFIRMATORY, NOT DISPOSITIVE.

04:47:12.915 --> 04:47:14.684
IN FACT, IN MANY OF THESE CASES,

04:47:14.750 --> 04:47:15.718
THE ACTUAL PERPETRATOR IS NEVER

04:47:15.785 --> 04:47:16.852
BROUGHT TO JUSTICE, AND THE

04:47:16.919 --> 04:47:18.554
LEGAL BURDEN FOR EXONERATION

04:47:18.621 --> 04:47:20.756
HAS ALREADY BEEN REACHED.

04:47:20.823 --> 04:47:22.191
ULTIMATELY, THIS BILL PROTECTS

04:47:22.258 --> 04:47:23.626
EVERYONE. IT HELPS ENSURE THAT

04:47:23.693 --> 04:47:25.061
INVESTIGATORS BUILD CASES ON

04:47:25.127 --> 04:47:26.862
RELIABLE EVIDENCE. PROSECUTORS

04:47:26.929 --> 04:47:27.964
OBTAIN CONVICTIONS THAT

04:47:28.030 --> 04:47:30.132
WITHSTAND REVIEW, VICTIMS

04:47:30.199 --> 04:47:31.901
RECEIVE LASTING JUSTICE, AND

04:47:31.968 --> 04:47:33.369
INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE NOT SWEPT

04:47:33.436 --> 04:47:35.504
INTO WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS. I WE

04:47:35.571 --> 04:47:36.973
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR

04:47:37.039 --> 04:47:38.741
VOTE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY

04:47:38.808 --> 04:47:40.176
MUCH. OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL

04:47:40.242 --> 04:47:42.078
TAKE ALL THE ME TWOS IN FAVOR

04:47:42.144 --> 04:47:43.312
OF THE BILL. COME ON UP. STATE

04:47:43.379 --> 04:47:45.581
YOUR NAME, YOUR ORGANIZATION,

04:47:45.648 --> 04:47:47.383
IVORY RODRIGUEZ WITH

04:47:47.450 --> 04:47:48.484
REGISTERING PROUD SUPPORT FOR

04:47:48.551 --> 04:47:50.720
ACLU, CAL ACTION AND THE SAN

04:47:50.786 --> 04:47:51.621
FRANCISCO PUBLIC DEFENDER'S

04:47:51.687 --> 04:47:56.425
OFFICE. THANK YOU. MARCO GEORGE.

04:47:56.492 --> 04:47:57.827
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

04:47:57.893 --> 04:47:59.996
PUBLIC DEFENDERS ASSOCIATION,

04:48:00.062 --> 04:48:03.566
PROUD CO-SPONSOR. THANK YOU,

04:48:03.633 --> 04:48:04.634
GLENN BACCHUS, ELLA BAKER

04:48:04.700 --> 04:48:06.068
CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS IN

04:48:06.135 --> 04:48:10.373
SUPPORT. A LITTLE ON BEHALF OF

04:48:10.439 --> 04:48:11.474
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND

04:48:11.540 --> 04:48:15.811
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. IGNACIO

04:48:15.878 --> 04:48:16.612
HERNANDEZ ON BEHALF OF THE

04:48:16.679 --> 04:48:17.647
CALIFORNIA ATTORNEYS FOR

04:48:17.713 --> 04:48:18.681
CRIMINAL JUSTICE IN SUPPORT AND

04:48:18.748 --> 04:48:20.116
ALSO ON BEHALF OF EXONERATED

04:48:20.182 --> 04:48:24.120
NATION AND SUPPORT. SOPHIA

04:48:24.186 --> 04:48:25.821
NEWHOUSE, ON BEHALF OF THE LOS

04:48:25.888 --> 04:48:26.989
ANGELES COUNTY PUBLIC DEFENDERS

04:48:27.056 --> 04:48:31.694
UNION LOCAL 148 IN SUPPORT. LIZ

04:48:31.761 --> 04:48:34.163
BLUM GUTIERREZ SMART JUSTICE,

04:48:34.230 --> 04:48:35.331
CALIFORNIA IN SUPPORT. ALL

04:48:35.398 --> 04:48:36.799
RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE AT THIS

04:48:36.866 --> 04:48:38.501
TIME? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE

04:48:38.567 --> 04:48:40.269
OPPOSITION. CHIEF. OPPOSITION

04:48:40.336 --> 04:48:42.238
WITNESSES. COME ON UP. THERE'S

04:48:42.304 --> 04:48:45.374
JUST ONE. THAT'S FINE. TWO. BUT

04:48:45.441 --> 04:48:50.746
YOU STILL GOT TWO MINUTES. I

04:48:50.813 --> 04:48:52.715
KNOW YOU'LL HOLD ME TO IT. MR.

04:48:52.782 --> 04:48:53.849
CHAIR CARILLO, ON BEHALF OF THE

04:48:53.916 --> 04:48:55.084
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS

04:48:55.151 --> 04:48:56.552
ASSOCIATION, STILL IN

04:48:56.619 --> 04:48:58.654
OPPOSITION TO AB 1905. WE

04:48:58.721 --> 04:49:00.222
APPRECIATE THE AUTHOR TAKING

04:49:00.289 --> 04:49:01.857
THE AMENDMENTS THAT HE'S TAKEN

04:49:01.924 --> 04:49:03.726
THUS FAR. WE STILL HAVE

04:49:03.793 --> 04:49:04.794
SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS WITH THE

04:49:04.860 --> 04:49:06.562
BILL, THE MATERIALS AND

04:49:06.629 --> 04:49:07.630
ARGUMENTS OFFERED IN SUPPORT OF

04:49:07.697 --> 04:49:08.664
THE BILL REFERENCE, QUOTE

04:49:08.731 --> 04:49:10.166
UNQUOTE, YOUNG PEOPLE, AND THE

04:49:10.232 --> 04:49:11.600
ASSERTION THAT THEY ARE, QUOTE,

04:49:11.667 --> 04:49:12.702
UNIQUELY VULNERABLE DURING

04:49:12.768 --> 04:49:14.503
CUSTODIAL INTERROGATION,

04:49:14.570 --> 04:49:15.905
CUSTODIAL INTERACTIONS WITH LAW

04:49:15.971 --> 04:49:16.906
ENFORCEMENT. THE PROBLEM IS THE

04:49:16.972 --> 04:49:18.441
BILL'S REACH IS NOT LIMITED TO

04:49:18.507 --> 04:49:21.010
MINORS. AS THE AUTHOR SAID, IT

04:49:21.077 --> 04:49:21.877
APPLIES TO ANY PERSON WHO IS

04:49:21.944 --> 04:49:23.813
UNDER THE AGE OF 18 AT THE TIME

04:49:23.879 --> 04:49:25.715
OF THE CRIME, AND UNDER 26 AT

04:49:25.781 --> 04:49:27.850
THE TIME OF CUSTODY. SO THIS IS

04:49:27.917 --> 04:49:30.386
NOT JUST SOMEONE WHO WAS 17 AND

04:49:30.453 --> 04:49:31.787
360 DAYS WHEN THEY COMMITTED

04:49:31.854 --> 04:49:33.923
THE CRIME IN 18 YEARS AND FIVE

04:49:33.989 --> 04:49:35.725
DAYS WHEN THEY'RE INTERROGATED.

04:49:35.791 --> 04:49:37.626
BUT SOMEONE WHO HAD BEEN 17 AT

04:49:37.693 --> 04:49:39.428
THE TIME OF THE CRIME AND THEN

04:49:39.495 --> 04:49:41.430
WAS 25 YEARS OLD AT THE TIME OF

04:49:41.497 --> 04:49:43.933
CUSTODY. IN EITHER CASE, THE

04:49:43.999 --> 04:49:45.000
BILL ATTEMPTS TO LIMIT LAW

04:49:45.067 --> 04:49:46.168
ENFORCEMENT FROM SEEKING

04:49:46.235 --> 04:49:47.403
VALUABLE EVIDENCE FROM ADULTS

04:49:47.470 --> 04:49:49.705
IN CUSTODY BASED ON THE NOTION

04:49:49.772 --> 04:49:50.740
THAT YOUNG PEOPLE DESERVE A

04:49:50.806 --> 04:49:51.974
HIGHER LEVEL OF PROTECTION WHEN

04:49:52.041 --> 04:49:53.042
IT COMES TO INTERROGATIONS,

04:49:53.109 --> 04:49:54.710
IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO NOTE I'M

04:49:54.777 --> 04:49:55.978
NOT SURE IT WILL BE COMPELLING,

04:49:56.045 --> 04:49:57.379
BUT THE APPELLATE CASE THAT'S

04:49:57.446 --> 04:49:58.814
CITED IN THE BILL'S FACT SHEET

04:49:58.881 --> 04:50:00.416
PEOPLE VÆ SAPATA IS REALLY MORE

04:50:00.483 --> 04:50:02.551
OF A MIRANDA CASE CANDIDLY,

04:50:02.618 --> 04:50:04.520
THAN A PERKINS CASE. ZAPATA

04:50:04.587 --> 04:50:06.455
INVOLVED THE DEFENDANT BEING

04:50:06.522 --> 04:50:08.157
THE SUBJECT OF A PERKINS

04:50:08.224 --> 04:50:10.192
OPERATION. BUT THE MAIN ISSUE

04:50:10.259 --> 04:50:11.327
NOTED BY THE COURT IS THAT

04:50:11.393 --> 04:50:12.428
ZAPATA'S ADMISSION OF GUILT WAS

04:50:12.495 --> 04:50:14.196
OBTAINED AFTER HE INVOKED HIS

04:50:14.263 --> 04:50:15.698
MIRANDA RIGHTS. THE PROBLEM IS

04:50:15.765 --> 04:50:17.533
THE BILL USES A POT AS A

04:50:17.600 --> 04:50:18.534
JUSTIFICATION FOR ITS PASSAGE,

04:50:18.601 --> 04:50:19.602
DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE POT

04:50:19.668 --> 04:50:21.504
DOES NOT APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN A

04:50:21.570 --> 04:50:23.405
JUVENILE AT THE TIME OF THE

04:50:23.472 --> 04:50:24.373
INTERROGATION, AND THAT FURTHER

04:50:24.440 --> 04:50:24.840
REGULATION OF PERKINS

04:50:24.907 --> 04:50:25.975
OPERATIONS IS NOT NECESSARILY

04:50:26.041 --> 04:50:27.376
THE MAIN MOTIVATOR OF THE

04:50:27.443 --> 04:50:28.644
COURT'S RULING. PERKINS

04:50:28.711 --> 04:50:30.446
OPERATIONS ARE EXCEEDINGLY RARE,

04:50:30.513 --> 04:50:31.514
ESPECIALLY WHEN INVOLVING

04:50:31.580 --> 04:50:33.716
ACTUAL MINORS AND ALSO RARE IN

04:50:33.783 --> 04:50:36.285
CASES THAT ARE NOT HOMICIDES.

04:50:36.352 --> 04:50:37.353
ADDITIONALLY, AS IT RELATES TO

04:50:37.419 --> 04:50:40.189
JUVENILES, AS WITNESSES STATED

04:50:40.256 --> 04:50:43.826
ÁP 2644, JUST FOUR YEARS AGO

04:50:43.893 --> 04:50:45.561
WAS PASSED. PROHIBITS LAW

04:50:45.628 --> 04:50:46.295
ENFORCEMENT OFFICER FROM

04:50:46.362 --> 04:50:47.163
EMPLOYING THREATS, PHYSICAL

04:50:47.229 --> 04:50:48.430
HARM, DECEPTION, OR

04:50:48.497 --> 04:50:49.532
PSYCHOLOGICALLY MANIPULATIVE

04:50:49.598 --> 04:50:51.333
INTERROGATION TACTICS. THESE

04:50:51.400 --> 04:50:52.401
PROTECTIONS ALREADY EXIST. WE

04:50:52.468 --> 04:50:54.103
DON'T THINK THERE NEED TO BE

04:50:54.170 --> 04:50:55.104
FURTHER LIMITATIONS ON PERKINS.

04:50:55.171 --> 04:50:56.205
OPS, FOR THOSE REASONS, WERE

04:50:56.272 --> 04:50:57.406
OPPOSED TO THE BILL. THANK YOU.

04:50:57.473 --> 04:50:59.208
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS

04:50:59.275 --> 04:51:01.043
TIME, WE'LL TAKE ANY OTHER

04:51:01.110 --> 04:51:02.478
OPPOSITION TO THE BILL. COME UP

04:51:02.545 --> 04:51:07.516
AND STATE YOUR OPPOSITION. ALL

04:51:07.583 --> 04:51:10.753
RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON. JULIA

04:51:10.820 --> 04:51:11.821
DELEON. ON BEHALF OF THE

04:51:11.887 --> 04:51:12.755
RIVERSIDE COUNTY SHERIFF'S

04:51:12.822 --> 04:51:17.259
OFFICE IN OPPOSITION. THANK YOU.

04:51:17.326 --> 04:51:18.727
BERNIE OJEDA, ON BEHALF OF LOS

04:51:18.794 --> 04:51:19.762
ANGELES COUNTY SHERIFF'S

04:51:19.829 --> 04:51:21.197
DEPARTMENT UNDER SHERIFF ROBERT

04:51:21.263 --> 04:51:22.665
LUNA. WE APPRECIATE THE

04:51:22.731 --> 04:51:24.133
DISCUSSIONS, BUT AT THIS TIME,

04:51:24.200 --> 04:51:26.969
AT THIS TIME, WE MUST REMAIN

04:51:27.036 --> 04:51:31.340
OPPOSED UNLESS AMENDED. GOOD

04:51:31.407 --> 04:51:32.408
AFTERNOON, COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

04:51:32.474 --> 04:51:34.210
MY NAME IS NADIA MOSHIRI, AND

04:51:34.276 --> 04:51:35.277
I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF

04:51:35.344 --> 04:51:36.679
SHERIFF KELLY MARTINEZ FROM SAN

04:51:36.745 --> 04:51:38.147
DIEGO COUNTY. RESPECTFULLY, IN

04:51:38.214 --> 04:51:40.316
OPPOSITION. ALL RIGHT. DO WE

04:51:40.382 --> 04:51:43.519
HAVE MORE? IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY

04:51:43.586 --> 04:51:44.687
MORE, WE'RE GOING TO BRING BACK

04:51:44.753 --> 04:51:46.522
TO THE DAIS. WE HAVE ANY

04:51:46.589 --> 04:51:47.857
QUESTIONS? YES, SENATOR

04:51:47.923 --> 04:51:52.728
CABALLERO, SO. I APPRECIATE

04:51:52.795 --> 04:51:54.230
WHAT YOU'RE WHAT YOU'RE DOING

04:51:54.296 --> 04:51:57.533
WITH THIS BILL. IT'S IT'S

04:51:57.600 --> 04:52:01.170
ALWAYS INTERESTING TO ME THAT,

04:52:01.237 --> 04:52:04.373
YOU KNOW, THE AGE AT WHICH

04:52:04.440 --> 04:52:08.744
THERE IS A BELIEF THAT PEOPLE

04:52:08.811 --> 04:52:10.179
SHOULDN'T BE HELD RESPONSIBLE

04:52:10.246 --> 04:52:12.114
FOR WHAT THEY DO KEEPS GETTING

04:52:12.181 --> 04:52:13.983
LONGER AND LONGER. AND I AND I

04:52:14.049 --> 04:52:16.252
SAY THAT WITH LOTS OF LOVE AND

04:52:16.318 --> 04:52:18.387
AFFECTION, BUT IT'S ALSO BUT

04:52:18.454 --> 04:52:19.889
IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT

04:52:19.955 --> 04:52:22.424
THEN WE WANT 16 AND 17 YEAR

04:52:22.491 --> 04:52:24.927
OLDS TO BE ABLE TO VOTE. SO

04:52:24.994 --> 04:52:26.128
DON'T MAKE A DECISION UNTIL

04:52:26.195 --> 04:52:28.530
THEY'RE 26. BUT THE 16 AND 17

04:52:28.597 --> 04:52:29.598
YEAR OLDS SHOULD BE ABLE TO

04:52:29.665 --> 04:52:31.400
VOTE ANYWAY. I JUST I CALL THAT

04:52:31.467 --> 04:52:32.868
OUT BECAUSE WHEN SOMEBODY COMES

04:52:32.935 --> 04:52:35.237
AND THEY ASK FOR A VOTE ON A 16

04:52:35.304 --> 04:52:37.172
OR 17 YEAR OLD, AND I'M THE

04:52:37.239 --> 04:52:39.341
ONLY DEMOCRAT THAT VOTES NO, I

04:52:39.408 --> 04:52:40.709
WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHY,

04:52:40.776 --> 04:52:42.211
BECAUSE I, I JUST THINK THAT

04:52:42.278 --> 04:52:43.379
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.

04:52:43.445 --> 04:52:45.881
AND SO I'M NOT THRILLED ABOUT

04:52:45.948 --> 04:52:50.552
THE UP TO 26 JUST IT JUST I GET

04:52:50.619 --> 04:52:53.389
THE SCIENCE. BUT BUT AT SOME

04:52:53.455 --> 04:52:56.992
POINT YOU TO HAVE TO HAVE A

04:52:57.059 --> 04:52:59.461
PARENT OR ANOTHER ADULT PRESENT

04:52:59.528 --> 04:53:01.363
JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME

04:53:01.430 --> 04:53:03.065
IF YOU'RE BEING INTERROGATED,

04:53:03.132 --> 04:53:05.935
RIGHT? IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE IN

04:53:06.001 --> 04:53:09.939
CUSTODY. SENDING SOMEONE IN

04:53:10.005 --> 04:53:12.241
THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW,

04:53:12.308 --> 04:53:16.745
AS A, AS A CELLMATE, AS A TRICK

04:53:16.812 --> 04:53:19.281
IS, IS NOT FAIR. AND MAYBE,

04:53:19.348 --> 04:53:21.884
MAYBE IT'S, IT'S DECEPTIVE AND

04:53:21.951 --> 04:53:23.652
NOT THE BEST WAY TO GET

04:53:23.719 --> 04:53:25.387
INFORMATION, BUT, BUT TO HAVE

04:53:25.454 --> 04:53:28.290
TO HAVE SOME KIND OF, TO TRY TO

04:53:28.357 --> 04:53:29.725
PROTECT SOMEBODY THAT'S IN

04:53:29.792 --> 04:53:31.894
CUSTODY WHEN YOU'RE WAY PAST

04:53:31.961 --> 04:53:34.430
THE ADULT 18 YEARS OLD DOESN'T

04:53:34.496 --> 04:53:36.165
MAKE A LOT OF SENSE TO ME. I'M

04:53:36.231 --> 04:53:37.232
GOING TO SUPPORT YOUR BILL

04:53:37.299 --> 04:53:39.068
TODAY, BUT I'M NOT SURE IN

04:53:39.134 --> 04:53:40.302
TERMS OF ON THE FLOOR WHETHER

04:53:40.369 --> 04:53:42.071
THAT'S I'M GOING TO FEEL LIKE

04:53:42.137 --> 04:53:43.772
THAT'S SOMETHING I WANT TO DO

04:53:43.839 --> 04:53:47.743
BECAUSE I, I, I THINK THAT WHEN

04:53:47.810 --> 04:53:50.946
A YOUNG PERSON, A MINOR

04:53:51.013 --> 04:53:53.515
EXPRESSES AN INTEREST OR

04:53:53.582 --> 04:53:55.684
EXPRESSES THE INTENT TO HAVE AN

04:53:55.751 --> 04:53:57.386
ADULT PRESENT WITH THEM THAT

04:53:57.453 --> 04:53:58.520
THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO, AND

04:53:58.587 --> 04:54:01.056
THAT ADULT CAN BE A TEACHER

04:54:01.123 --> 04:54:03.225
THAT MIGHT SERVE AS A BETTER

04:54:03.292 --> 04:54:06.829
ADULT IN TERMS OF, OF A, OF A

04:54:06.895 --> 04:54:09.298
CONFIDANT AND A, AND A ADULT

04:54:09.365 --> 04:54:12.935
FIGURE IN THEIR LIFE. NOT ALL

04:54:13.002 --> 04:54:14.703
JUVENILES HAVE PARENTS THAT

04:54:14.770 --> 04:54:18.407
THEY TRUST AND THAT THEY TURN

04:54:18.474 --> 04:54:20.142
TO IN TIMES OF CRISIS. BUT I DO

04:54:20.209 --> 04:54:22.311
THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO

04:54:22.378 --> 04:54:24.813
GIVE THEM THAT THAT. RIGHT.

04:54:24.880 --> 04:54:26.582
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. VICE

04:54:26.648 --> 04:54:31.987
CHAIR, ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. MY

04:54:32.054 --> 04:54:33.856
COMMENTS ARE WHAT SHE SAID.

04:54:33.922 --> 04:54:36.325
OKAY. I'M GONNA HAVE TO USE

04:54:36.392 --> 04:54:37.493
THAT. YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND

04:54:37.559 --> 04:54:39.261
CLOSE. WELL, THANK YOU VERY

04:54:39.328 --> 04:54:40.429
MUCH, MR. VICE CHAIR. I WILL BE

04:54:40.496 --> 04:54:41.630
BRIEF TO SENATOR CABALLERO.

04:54:41.697 --> 04:54:43.165
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS. DULY

04:54:43.232 --> 04:54:44.967
NOTED. I WOULD JUST LEAVE YOU

04:54:45.034 --> 04:54:46.635
ALL WITH WITH TWO THINGS. FIRST

04:54:46.702 --> 04:54:48.237
OF ALL, IF THE SHERIFF'S

04:54:48.303 --> 04:54:49.638
ASSOCIATIONS AND MANY

04:54:49.705 --> 04:54:51.440
REPRESENTATIVES, IF THERE'S IF

04:54:51.507 --> 04:54:53.575
THEY GET PAST THE IDEOLOGICAL

04:54:53.642 --> 04:54:54.376
OPPOSITION AND THERE'S A

04:54:54.443 --> 04:54:55.210
DIFFERENT AGE BY WHICH YOU

04:54:55.277 --> 04:54:57.046
THINK THAT IT WOULD NOT BE

04:54:57.112 --> 04:54:58.047
OBJECTIONABLE, WE'D LOVE TO

04:54:58.113 --> 04:54:59.281
HAVE THAT LEVEL OF CONVERSATION.

04:54:59.348 --> 04:55:01.050
WE WE HAVEN'T SO FAR. SO I'M

04:55:01.116 --> 04:55:01.517
INVITING ANY SHERIFF'S

04:55:01.583 --> 04:55:02.651
REPRESENTATIVE TO ENGAGE WITH

04:55:02.718 --> 04:55:04.186
US. BUT THE OTHER THING I WOULD

04:55:04.253 --> 04:55:05.587
ACTUALLY ADD, SENATOR, IS AT

04:55:05.654 --> 04:55:07.056
LEAST SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND

04:55:07.122 --> 04:55:08.690
WHY I AGREED TO MAKE THAT

04:55:08.757 --> 04:55:10.526
CHANGE TO THE BILL, IT ACTUALLY

04:55:10.592 --> 04:55:11.994
CONFORMS WITH EXISTING LAW. AND

04:55:12.061 --> 04:55:13.429
WHAT I WOULD SPECIFICALLY CITE

04:55:13.495 --> 04:55:16.632
TO IS PENAL CODE SECTION 1010,

04:55:16.698 --> 04:55:18.467
16.7, WHICH DEFINES YOUTH AS IT

04:55:18.534 --> 04:55:19.701
RELATES TO PROBATION. AND SO

04:55:19.768 --> 04:55:21.003
PART OF THE ARGUMENT WAS

04:55:21.070 --> 04:55:22.404
CONFORMITY AND CONSISTENCY

04:55:22.471 --> 04:55:24.139
WITHIN THE LAW. NOTWITHSTANDING

04:55:24.206 --> 04:55:25.941
THAT FACT, WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE

04:55:26.008 --> 04:55:27.443
A CONVERSATION WITH ANYONE AND

04:55:27.509 --> 04:55:29.244
EVERYONE OUTSIDE OF JUST THE

04:55:29.311 --> 04:55:31.046
THE, THE PERFORMATIVE NATURE OF

04:55:31.113 --> 04:55:32.848
THE COMMITTEE PROCESS. SO WE

04:55:32.915 --> 04:55:34.650
WOULD LOVE TO TALK WITH ANYBODY.

04:55:34.716 --> 04:55:35.684
WITH THAT, WE RESPECTFULLY ASK

04:55:35.751 --> 04:55:37.186
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU VERY

04:55:37.252 --> 04:55:39.388
MUCH. OKAY. WE CAN GO AHEAD AND

04:55:39.455 --> 04:55:41.690
CALL ROLL ÁP 1905. SCHULTZ.

04:55:41.757 --> 04:55:43.525
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE FLOOR

04:55:43.592 --> 04:55:45.427
AGAIN. CIERTO CIERTO. NO.

04:55:45.494 --> 04:55:46.895
CABALLERO. CABALLERO. AYE.

04:55:46.962 --> 04:55:49.998
ORTEZ. PEREZ. WIENER WIENER.

04:55:50.065 --> 04:55:51.967
AYE. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THAT

04:55:52.034 --> 04:55:53.102
BILL WILL REMAIN ON CALL. OKAY.

04:55:53.168 --> 04:55:54.870
NEXT UP MISS. LET'S SEE.

04:55:54.937 --> 04:55:57.339
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MCKINNON, I

04:55:57.406 --> 04:55:58.407
BELIEVE YOU ARE UP WITH THE

04:55:58.474 --> 04:56:01.310
BILL. I THINK I'VE HEARD BEFORE,

04:56:01.376 --> 04:56:03.145
SO I DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT

04:56:03.212 --> 04:56:05.614
MYSELF. MR. VICE CHAIR, CAN I

04:56:05.681 --> 04:56:09.585
PLEASE PRESENT THE A B 2411

04:56:09.651 --> 04:56:10.986
BECAUSE MY WITNESSES HAVE TO

04:56:11.053 --> 04:56:13.889
LEAVE ME LOOK AND SEE WHERE

04:56:13.956 --> 04:56:16.758
YOU'RE AT. THAT IS ITEM NUMBER

04:56:16.825 --> 04:56:21.997
31. OKAY, 31 PATTERSON NÓ. OH,

04:56:22.064 --> 04:56:27.569
I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. 24112411

04:56:27.636 --> 04:56:29.404
OKAY. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, I

04:56:29.471 --> 04:56:30.506
THOUGHT THE OTHER ONES ON

04:56:30.572 --> 04:56:34.042
CONSENT. NO, NO. YEAH. 2411 IS

04:56:34.109 --> 04:56:35.711
THE ONE THAT I'VE HEARD BEFORE.

04:56:35.777 --> 04:56:37.312
YES. OH, WELL, ABSOLUTELY. YOU

04:56:37.379 --> 04:56:39.448
CAN GO AHEAD AND DO THAT ONE.

04:56:39.515 --> 04:56:41.183
MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS, I WOULD

04:56:41.250 --> 04:56:42.417
LIKE TO BEGIN BY ACCEPTING THE

04:56:42.484 --> 04:56:44.820
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS DESCRIBED

04:56:44.887 --> 04:56:46.622
IN THE BILL AND ANALYSIS. AND

04:56:46.688 --> 04:56:48.423
SINCERELY THANK YOU AND YOUR

04:56:48.490 --> 04:56:50.025
STAFF FOR THE EXCELLENT WORK ON

04:56:50.092 --> 04:56:53.228
THIS BILL. SENATORS AB 2411

04:56:53.295 --> 04:56:54.997
CREATES A PROCESS TO TRAIN OUT

04:56:55.063 --> 04:56:57.466
OF STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT

04:56:57.533 --> 04:57:00.002
OFFICIALS TO PROVIDE TEMPORARY

04:57:00.068 --> 04:57:00.702
SUPPLEMENTAL PUBLIC SAFETY

04:57:00.769 --> 04:57:03.906
DURING THE 2028 OLYMPICS AND

04:57:03.972 --> 04:57:05.641
PARALYMPIC GAMES, ACCORDING TO

04:57:05.707 --> 04:57:07.910
THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES. THE LA

04:57:07.976 --> 04:57:10.479
28 HOST CITY. THE GAMES WILL

04:57:10.546 --> 04:57:12.548
REQUIRE AN ESTIMATE OF 30,000

04:57:12.614 --> 04:57:14.049
ADDITIONAL SWORN LAW

04:57:14.116 --> 04:57:15.784
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO KEEP

04:57:15.851 --> 04:57:18.020
ATHLETES, FANS AND VISITORS

04:57:18.086 --> 04:57:20.889
FROM AROUND THE WORLD SAFE. WE.

04:57:20.956 --> 04:57:22.658
YET CURRENT ESTIMATES HAVE

04:57:22.724 --> 04:57:25.194
IDENTIFIED ONLY 6000 STATE

04:57:25.260 --> 04:57:26.228
OFFICERS THAT COULD BE

04:57:26.295 --> 04:57:28.397
AVAILABLE TO PROVIDE NECESSARY

04:57:28.463 --> 04:57:31.667
MUTUAL AID. TO BE CLEAR, AB

04:57:31.733 --> 04:57:34.203
2411 DOES NOT REPLACE AVAILABLE

04:57:34.269 --> 04:57:36.371
IN STATE LAW ENFORCEMENT

04:57:36.438 --> 04:57:38.140
OFFICIALS FOR USE DURING THE

04:57:38.207 --> 04:57:41.009
2028 GAMES. THE BILL CLEARLY

04:57:41.076 --> 04:57:42.811
STATES THAT ANY OUT-OF-STATE

04:57:42.878 --> 04:57:44.913
OFFICERS USED FOR THE GAMES

04:57:44.980 --> 04:57:47.849
WILL ONLY AUGMENT AVAILABLE IN

04:57:47.916 --> 04:57:49.985
STATE OFFICERS. I APPRECIATE

04:57:50.052 --> 04:57:51.453
THE PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATIONS

04:57:51.520 --> 04:57:53.188
I'VE HAD DIRECTLY WITH OUR LAW

04:57:53.255 --> 04:57:54.690
ENFORCEMENT LABOR PARTNERS, AND

04:57:54.756 --> 04:57:55.891
WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM

04:57:55.958 --> 04:57:58.360
TO ENSURE THAT ANY OUT OF STATE

04:57:58.427 --> 04:58:00.896
OFFICERS USED IN THE 2028 GAMES

04:58:00.963 --> 04:58:02.598
WILL MEET CALIFORNIA'S HIGH

04:58:02.664 --> 04:58:04.733
STANDARDS OF CONDUCT AND

04:58:04.800 --> 04:58:06.201
ACCOUNTABILITY. SENATORS, WE

04:58:06.268 --> 04:58:08.770
HAVE A CHOICE ON HOW WE KEEP

04:58:08.837 --> 04:58:09.972
ATHLETES, FANS AND VISITORS

04:58:10.038 --> 04:58:12.407
SAFE DURING THE 2028 GAMES. WE

04:58:12.474 --> 04:58:14.343
CAN USE THE NEXT TWO YEARS TO

04:58:14.409 --> 04:58:17.379
ESTABLISH A PROCESS FOR LA

04:58:17.446 --> 04:58:19.147
28KLES AND THE COMMISSION ON

04:58:19.214 --> 04:58:21.316
PEACE OFFICER STANDARDS AND

04:58:21.383 --> 04:58:23.485
TRAINING TO PLAN, COORDINATE

04:58:23.552 --> 04:58:25.287
AND DEPLOY TRAINING FOR

04:58:25.354 --> 04:58:26.722
SUPPLEMENTAL OUT OF STATE

04:58:26.788 --> 04:58:28.523
OFFICERS TO ENFORCE CALIFORNIA

04:58:28.590 --> 04:58:31.059
STATE LAWS. OR WE CAN DO

04:58:31.126 --> 04:58:32.261
NOTHING AND LEAVE IT UP TO THE

04:58:32.327 --> 04:58:34.663
TO THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO

04:58:34.730 --> 04:58:36.431
PROTECT LOS ANGELES. WHILE WE

04:58:36.498 --> 04:58:38.233
LIKE WHAT WE SAW LAST SUMMER

04:58:38.300 --> 04:58:40.769
WITH NO ACCOUNTABILITY AS CHAIR

04:58:40.836 --> 04:58:42.204
OF THE ASSEMBLY SELECT

04:58:42.271 --> 04:58:43.972
COMMITTEE ON THE 2028 OLYMPIC

04:58:44.039 --> 04:58:46.174
AND PARALYMPIC GAMES, I WOULD

04:58:46.241 --> 04:58:49.044
PREFER THAT WE PLAN, TRAIN AND

04:58:49.111 --> 04:58:50.479
REQUIRE ANY OUT OF STATE LAW

04:58:50.545 --> 04:58:52.281
ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS TO SERVE

04:58:52.347 --> 04:58:54.449
UNDER A STATE RUN CENTRAL

04:58:54.516 --> 04:58:55.917
COMMAND AND COMPLY WITH ALL

04:58:55.984 --> 04:58:58.820
STATE LAWS FOR CONDUCT AND

04:58:58.887 --> 04:59:00.255
ACCOUNTABILITY. SENATORS ARE

04:59:00.322 --> 04:59:02.024
SAFE. GAME IS CENTRAL TO A

04:59:02.090 --> 04:59:04.159
SUCCESSFUL GAMES, AND AB 2411

04:59:04.226 --> 04:59:06.161
WILL GIVE US A TOOL NECESSARY

04:59:06.228 --> 04:59:08.497
TO KEEP ALL OF US SAFE WHEN WE

04:59:08.563 --> 04:59:11.033
CELEBRATE THE 2028 OLYMPICS AND

04:59:11.099 --> 04:59:12.467
PARALYMPIC GAMES, I

04:59:12.534 --> 04:59:14.303
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.

04:59:14.369 --> 04:59:16.738
AND TODAY MY WITNESS IS ANDREW

04:59:16.805 --> 04:59:18.974
TWEED. ON BEHALF OF OUR PROUD

04:59:19.041 --> 04:59:20.375
SPONSOR, THE CITY OF LOS

04:59:20.442 --> 04:59:22.544
ANGELES, OFFICE OF MAYOR KAREN

04:59:22.611 --> 04:59:25.047
BASS AND COMMANDER MARIO MOTO

04:59:25.113 --> 04:59:27.215
OF THE LOS ANGELES POLICE

04:59:27.282 --> 04:59:28.650
DEPARTMENT, AND DETECTIVE DAVID

04:59:28.717 --> 04:59:30.786
SUN, ALSO WITH THE LAPD. TO

04:59:30.852 --> 04:59:32.988
HELP ANSWER ANY TECHNICAL

04:59:33.055 --> 04:59:35.891
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

04:59:35.957 --> 04:59:37.059
WHICHEVER ONE OF YOU WANTS TO

04:59:37.125 --> 04:59:39.761
GO FIRST, YOU'VE GOT TWO

04:59:39.828 --> 04:59:41.663
MINUTES, CHAIR MEMBERS ANDREW.

04:59:41.730 --> 04:59:45.600
LOS ANGELES MAYOR. CHAIR

04:59:45.667 --> 04:59:47.369
MEMBERS. ANDREW ANTHONY HERE

04:59:47.436 --> 04:59:48.770
TODAY ON BEHALF OF LOS ANGELES

04:59:48.837 --> 04:59:50.639
MAYOR KAREN BASS. MAYOR'S

04:59:50.706 --> 04:59:51.606
OFFICE IS PLEASED, AS THE

04:59:51.673 --> 04:59:53.442
AUTHORS INDICATED, TO SERVE AS

04:59:53.508 --> 04:59:54.509
SPONSOR FOR THIS MEASURE. AND

04:59:54.576 --> 04:59:55.644
WE THANK THE AUTHOR FOR

04:59:55.711 --> 04:59:56.745
BRINGING THIS MEASURE FORWARD.

04:59:56.812 --> 04:59:59.948
THE BILL IS ABOUT PREPARATION,

05:00:00.015 --> 05:00:02.451
COORDINATION AND PUBLIC SAFETY.

05:00:02.517 --> 05:00:05.053
THE GAMES ARE AROUND THE CORNER,

05:00:05.120 --> 05:00:06.455
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE

05:00:06.521 --> 05:00:08.156
WELCOME THE WORLD IN THE MOST

05:00:08.223 --> 05:00:11.193
SECURE AND COORDINATED WAY, AND

05:00:11.259 --> 05:00:12.494
THAT WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE

05:00:12.561 --> 05:00:16.198
LEAD TIME THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE

05:00:16.264 --> 05:00:19.401
PREPARATIONS FOR PROPER FORCE

05:00:19.468 --> 05:00:21.903
ENHANCEMENT AND CROWD CONTROL

05:00:21.970 --> 05:00:24.439
AND OTHER NEEDS THROUGH A VERY

05:00:24.506 --> 05:00:25.874
COORDINATED AND DIRECTED

05:00:25.941 --> 05:00:28.377
FASHION. THIS MOMENT WILL BRING

05:00:28.443 --> 05:00:29.544
EXTRAORDINARY OPPORTUNITY FOR

05:00:29.611 --> 05:00:30.946
THE CITY, THE REGION AND THE

05:00:31.012 --> 05:00:33.448
STATE. AND THERE WILL BE FAN

05:00:33.515 --> 05:00:35.617
ZONES, CROWDS, HIGH PROFILE

05:00:35.684 --> 05:00:37.452
VENUES, TRANSIT CORRIDORS. ALL

05:00:37.519 --> 05:00:39.421
OF THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED

05:00:39.488 --> 05:00:41.356
AND PLANNED FOR. AND SO WE

05:00:41.423 --> 05:00:42.824
THANK THE AUTHOR AND THIS

05:00:42.891 --> 05:00:44.760
COMMITTEE'S ATTENTION TO FOLLOW

05:00:44.826 --> 05:00:46.762
A PROTOCOL THAT'S WELL SET,

05:00:46.828 --> 05:00:48.930
WITH VERY WELL DEFINED ROLES

05:00:48.997 --> 05:00:51.099
FOR A MAJOR INTERNATIONAL EVENT,

05:00:51.166 --> 05:00:53.034
A HISTORIC EVENT, AND WE CREATE

05:00:53.101 --> 05:00:55.070
THE AUTHORITY THROUGH THIS

05:00:55.137 --> 05:00:56.872
MEASURE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE

05:00:56.938 --> 05:00:58.673
ROLES ARE WELL DEFINED. AND

05:00:58.740 --> 05:01:00.776
PREPARING EARLY IS OUR BEST

05:01:00.842 --> 05:01:02.978
MEDICINE. I'LL DEFER TO OTHER

05:01:03.044 --> 05:01:04.813
WITNESSES TO ELABORATE, AND

05:01:04.880 --> 05:01:05.847
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY

05:01:05.914 --> 05:01:08.750
TO PRESENT. GOOD AFTERNOON,

05:01:08.817 --> 05:01:10.352
VICE CHAIR AND COMMITTEE

05:01:10.419 --> 05:01:11.586
MEMBERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

05:01:11.653 --> 05:01:12.921
FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. MY NAME

05:01:12.988 --> 05:01:14.489
IS MARIO MOTTA, AND I AM A

05:01:14.556 --> 05:01:15.924
COMMANDER WITH THE LOS ANGELES

05:01:15.991 --> 05:01:17.058
POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE

05:01:17.125 --> 05:01:19.528
COMMANDING OFFICER OF THE LAPD

05:01:19.594 --> 05:01:21.163
MAJOR EVENTS GROUP, WHICH IS

05:01:21.229 --> 05:01:23.198
THE DEPARTMENT'S LEAD ENTITY IN

05:01:23.265 --> 05:01:24.566
THE PLANNING FOR THE 2028

05:01:24.633 --> 05:01:26.401
OLYMPIC AND PARALYMPIC GAMES.

05:01:26.468 --> 05:01:28.537
THE LAPD IS ONE OF SIX MEMBERS

05:01:28.603 --> 05:01:29.971
WITHIN THE NATIONAL SPECIAL

05:01:30.038 --> 05:01:31.406
SECURITY EVENTS DESIGNATION,

05:01:31.473 --> 05:01:33.208
THE EXECUTIVE STEERING

05:01:33.275 --> 05:01:34.309
COMMITTEE THAT OVERSEES THE

05:01:34.376 --> 05:01:36.445
OVERALL PLANNING, SAFETY,

05:01:36.511 --> 05:01:37.879
SECURITY AND DEPLOYMENT FOR THE

05:01:37.946 --> 05:01:39.714
GAMES AS IT PERTAINS TO PUBLIC

05:01:39.781 --> 05:01:41.249
SAFETY ACROSS THE VENUES IN THE

05:01:41.316 --> 05:01:44.052
LA REGION, THROUGH THE NSC

05:01:44.119 --> 05:01:45.120
STRUCTURE AND THE UNITED STATES

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SECRET SERVICE, THERE HAVE BEEN

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SPECIFIC ASSIGNMENTS THAT HAVE

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BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT WILL BE

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THAT WILL REQUIRE SWORN LAW

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ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL TO STAFF

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THESE POSITIONS. THE CITY OF LA

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ALONE WILL HOST EIGHT LARGE

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VENUES AND ENCOMPASSING SEVERAL

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CITY SQUARE MILES PER SITE,

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ALONG WITH SEVEN ROAD RACES AND

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A MARATHON THAT WILL SPAN

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ACROSS MULTIPLE LAW ENFORCEMENT

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JURISDICTIONS, INCREASING OUR

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DEMAND FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT

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OFFICERS JUST OUTSIDE LOS

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ANGELES. OUR NEIGHBORING CITIES

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WILL ALSO HOST SCOPED OLYMPIC

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VENUES, FURTHER INCREASING THE

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DEMAND FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT

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PERSONNEL ACROSS THE ENTIRE

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REGION. FOR CONTEXT, THE LAPD

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WILL BE MOBILIZED, DEPLOYED FOR

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66 CONTINUOUS DAYS FOR THE

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OLYMPICS AND PARALYMPICS.

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THAT'S 66 DAYS ON PEAK DEMAND

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DAYS, THE LAPD WILL DEPLOY

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APPROXIMATELY 6700 OFFICERS

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ACROSS THE VARIOUS SITES OF

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WHICH WE, THE LAPD, CAN ONLY

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PROVIDE ONE THIRD OF THAT

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DEPLOYMENT. SO ROUGHLY 2200

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OFFICERS PER DAY. THAT LEAVES A

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STAFFING GAP OF APPROXIMATELY

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4400 OFFICERS PER DAY. THIS IS

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FOR LAPD VENUES ONLY. THE GAP

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MUST BE FILLED BY OTHER

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IN-STATE AND OUT-OF-STATE LAW

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ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. THE LAPD

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ALONE NEEDS ROUGHLY 12 TO

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15,000 OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THE

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LAPD TO COVER THE GAMES FOR THE

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REGION. OFFICERS WILL WILL ALSO

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BE COVERING SCOPE EVENTS, AND

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IT IS ESTIMATED THAT ON ANY

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GIVEN DAY, WE NEED 13 TO 16,000

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OFFICERS DEPLOYED ACROSS THE

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LOS ANGELES REGION. AND TO

05:03:16.278 --> 05:03:18.446
ACCOMPLISH THAT, WE NEED 24 TO

05:03:18.513 --> 05:03:20.115
30,000 OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THE

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GAMES FROM ALL OVER THE STATE

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AND AND THE OUTSIDE OF THE

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STATE. FOR THESE REASONS, THE

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LOS ANGELES POLICE DEPARTMENT,

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THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES, AND

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THE NATIONAL SPECIAL SECURITY

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EVENTS EXECUTIVE STEERING

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COMMITTEE, WHICH WE ARE PART OF,

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SUPPORT THIS BILL. BY ADVANCING

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THIS LEGISLATION, CAL OAS CAN

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HAVE THE ABILITY TO START THE

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PROCESS AND ADDRESSING THE

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PERSONNEL GAPS AS TIME IS NO

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LONGER ON OUR SIDE. WITH THE

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GAMES JUST TWO YEARS AWAY, WE

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ARE COMMITTED TO WORKING WITH

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THE AUTHOR ON ANY AMENDMENTS

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AND PROVIDE TECHNICAL EXPERTISE

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AND A GENUINE PERSPECTIVE OF

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THE CHALLENGES WE FACE IN

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PROVIDING A ROBUST SAFETY AND

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SECURITY PLAN ACROSS ALL VENUES.

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK

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YOU VERY MUCH FOR BOTH YOUR

05:04:00.889 --> 05:04:01.823
TESTIMONIES. AT THIS TIME.

05:04:01.890 --> 05:04:03.658
WE'LL TAKE ANYBODY IN SUPPORT

05:04:03.725 --> 05:04:06.561
OF THE MEASURE. COME ON UP AND.

05:04:06.628 --> 05:04:08.730
GIVE YOUR NAME AND YOU KNOW

05:04:08.797 --> 05:04:11.232
WHAT TO DO. MR. CHAIRMAN,

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MEMBERS, ON BEHALF OF THE LOS

05:04:13.134 --> 05:04:14.002
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT

05:04:14.069 --> 05:04:18.106
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN SUPPORT.

05:04:18.173 --> 05:04:19.574
CHLOE KING WITH POLITICAL

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SOLUTIONS ON BEHALF OF THE

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CALIFORNIA ORTHOTIC AND

05:04:22.143 --> 05:04:23.478
PROSTHETIC ASSOCIATION, AND

05:04:23.545 --> 05:04:24.613
ALSO ON BEHALF OF THE

05:04:24.679 --> 05:04:26.581
CALIFORNIA TRAVEL ASSOCIATION

05:04:26.648 --> 05:04:29.985
IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU. GOOD

05:04:30.051 --> 05:04:31.186
AFTERNOON. I'M HERE ON BEHALF

05:04:31.252 --> 05:04:32.687
OF THE CALIFORNIA HOTEL AND

05:04:32.754 --> 05:04:37.559
LODGING ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT.

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OKAY. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO

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AHEAD AND TAKE OPPOSITION

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WITNESSES. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.

05:04:42.197 --> 05:04:43.965
WHEN YOU COME ON UP, YOU'LL BE

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THE CHIEF OPPOSITION WITNESS.

05:04:45.133 --> 05:04:49.137
IT LOOKS LIKE. MR. CHAIRMAN,

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MEMBERS. RANDY PERRY, ON BEHALF

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OF PORAC, WE'VE BEEN WORKING

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WITH THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE AND

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THE MAYOR'S OFFICE ON THE BILL

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FOR A MONTH OR SO. NOW, A

05:04:56.344 --> 05:04:57.812
COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST WANT TO

05:04:57.879 --> 05:05:00.181
STATE ON THE ON ON SET HERE IS

05:05:00.248 --> 05:05:03.852
THAT FOR CONCERN AND THE WORK

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THAT WE'RE PUTTING INTO THIS

05:05:04.986 --> 05:05:06.721
BILL IS REALLY BASED ON THE

05:05:06.788 --> 05:05:08.156
FACT THAT PORAC HAS BEEN THE

05:05:08.223 --> 05:05:10.625
TIP OF THE SPEAR ON THE LABOR

05:05:10.692 --> 05:05:13.728
SIDE. REGARDING POLICE REFORM

05:05:13.795 --> 05:05:15.463
OVER THE LAST DECADE. WE'RE

05:05:15.530 --> 05:05:17.232
BEING VERY CAREFUL. A LOT OF

05:05:17.298 --> 05:05:19.167
ISSUES OF WE'VE BEEN A PART OF

05:05:19.234 --> 05:05:20.368
IN TERMS OF POLICE LICENSING.

05:05:20.435 --> 05:05:24.406
AND LIKE LAST SUMMER, WE SAW

05:05:24.472 --> 05:05:26.608
WHERE THE FEDS CAME IN, AND

05:05:26.675 --> 05:05:28.710
JUST AS WE FELT WE WERE

05:05:28.777 --> 05:05:30.512
REGAINING THE PUBLIC TRUST AND

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CONFIDENCE, SEVERAL THINGS

05:05:32.747 --> 05:05:34.082
HAPPENED ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL

05:05:34.149 --> 05:05:37.352
THAT IS REFLECTING ON US AND

05:05:37.419 --> 05:05:39.154
THEREFORE, ALL OF YOU HAVE PUT

05:05:39.220 --> 05:05:42.057
IN MAJOR BILLS THIS YEAR AND

05:05:42.123 --> 05:05:43.825
LAST YEAR TO DEAL WITH THAT

05:05:43.892 --> 05:05:45.994
ISSUE, BUT HAVE SERIOUSLY

05:05:46.061 --> 05:05:48.129
IMPACTED US. AGAIN, OUR CONCERN

05:05:48.196 --> 05:05:49.864
HERE IS WITHOUT A STATE FOLKS

05:05:49.931 --> 05:05:52.067
COMING IN THAT THEY HAVE THE

05:05:52.133 --> 05:05:54.235
TRAINING, THEY HAVE THE SAME

05:05:54.302 --> 05:05:57.806
TYPE OF BACKGROUND CHECKS AND,

05:05:57.872 --> 05:06:00.008
AND, AND BASICALLY MAKING SURE

05:06:00.075 --> 05:06:01.443
THEY'RE UP TO CALIFORNIA

05:06:01.509 --> 05:06:02.844
STANDARDS. THE CURRENT

05:06:02.911 --> 05:06:03.945
AMENDMENTS THAT WENT INTO THE

05:06:04.012 --> 05:06:06.848
BILL. OUR CONCERNS ARE THAT WE

05:06:06.915 --> 05:06:10.418
STILL DON'T HAVE THE POST

05:06:10.485 --> 05:06:11.886
OVERSIGHT, BASICALLY, THAT WE

05:06:11.953 --> 05:06:14.189
WANTED TO HAVE THE LANGUAGE

05:06:14.255 --> 05:06:16.024
THAT SAYS THAT WE DEEM THAT THE

05:06:16.091 --> 05:06:17.292
OUT OF STATE OFFICERS, WHEN

05:06:17.358 --> 05:06:19.060
THEY COME IN, THEY'RE DEEMED TO

05:06:19.127 --> 05:06:20.862
HAVE MET CALIFORNIA BACKGROUND,

05:06:20.929 --> 05:06:23.064
BUT WHO IS MAKING THAT CHECK?

05:06:23.131 --> 05:06:24.833
WHO IS MAKING SURE THAT THAT'S

05:06:24.899 --> 05:06:27.335
OCCURRING? THERE WAS SOME

05:06:27.402 --> 05:06:29.170
STREAMLINED TRAINING BY POST,

05:06:29.237 --> 05:06:31.339
WHICH IS OUT OF THE BILL NOW.

05:06:31.406 --> 05:06:33.108
THE BACKGROUND CHECKS

05:06:33.174 --> 05:06:35.310
THEMSELVES. AGAIN, IT'S ALL

05:06:35.376 --> 05:06:36.711
BEING BASED ON THE OFFICER

05:06:36.778 --> 05:06:39.214
BEING DEEMED TO BE QUALIFIED BY

05:06:39.280 --> 05:06:41.416
THEIR AGENCY AND THEIR STATE.

05:06:41.483 --> 05:06:43.184
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE

05:06:43.251 --> 05:06:44.452
TRAINING REQUIREMENTS ARE. WE

05:06:44.519 --> 05:06:45.386
DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE

05:06:45.453 --> 05:06:46.921
BACKGROUNDS ARE AND AND THE

05:06:46.988 --> 05:06:48.957
LIKE. SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO

05:06:49.023 --> 05:06:50.358
WORK WITH THE AUTHOR'S OFFICE

05:06:50.425 --> 05:06:51.793
ON THIS. WE JUST WANT TO MAKE

05:06:51.860 --> 05:06:53.361
SURE THAT WHEN THESE OFFICERS

05:06:53.428 --> 05:06:55.430
COME INTO CALIFORNIA, THAT THEY

05:06:55.497 --> 05:06:57.966
ARE LIVING UP TO BASICALLY WHAT

05:06:58.032 --> 05:06:59.768
WE ARE REQUIRED TO LIVE UP TO,

05:06:59.834 --> 05:07:03.071
WHAT OUR CITIZENS IN CALIFORNIA

05:07:03.138 --> 05:07:05.940
HAVE, HAVE NEED YOU TO WRAP UP.

05:07:06.007 --> 05:07:07.175
YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, THERE'S NO

05:07:07.242 --> 05:07:08.977
ONE ELSE. AND THEY GET FOUR

05:07:09.043 --> 05:07:10.111
MINUTES. NO, YOU GET TWO. ALL

05:07:10.178 --> 05:07:12.113
RIGHT, I TRIED ANYWAY. SO I

05:07:12.180 --> 05:07:14.015
JUST WANT TO SAY WE'LL CONTINUE

05:07:14.082 --> 05:07:15.183
TO WORK WITH THE AUTHOR'S

05:07:15.250 --> 05:07:16.117
OFFICE. THEY HAVE BEEN

05:07:16.184 --> 05:07:17.185
WONDERFUL WORKING WITH US. WE

05:07:17.252 --> 05:07:19.020
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT

05:07:19.087 --> 05:07:20.088
THESE OFFICERS LIVE UP TO

05:07:20.155 --> 05:07:21.122
CALIFORNIA STANDARDS. THANK YOU.

05:07:21.189 --> 05:07:22.857
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AT THIS

05:07:22.924 --> 05:07:24.092
TIME, WE'LL TAKE ANYBODY WHO

05:07:24.159 --> 05:07:26.094
WOULD LIKE TO BE A ME TOO IN

05:07:26.161 --> 05:07:27.195
OPPOSITION. COME ON UP. STATE

05:07:27.262 --> 05:07:28.263
YOUR NAME. MR. CHAIR AND

05:07:28.329 --> 05:07:29.364
MEMBERS MATTHEW SEIBERLING, ON

05:07:29.430 --> 05:07:30.431
BEHALF OF THE ASSOCIATION FOR

05:07:30.498 --> 05:07:31.533
LOS ANGELES DEPUTY SHERIFFS.

05:07:31.599 --> 05:07:32.467
WE'RE CURRENTLY IN OPPOSE

05:07:32.534 --> 05:07:33.635
UNLESS AMENDED POSITION,

05:07:33.701 --> 05:07:34.669
LARGELY FOR THE SAME REASONS

05:07:34.736 --> 05:07:36.171
JUST OUTLINED BY PORAC. WE'RE

05:07:36.237 --> 05:07:37.972
ENCOURAGED BY THE ANALYSIS AND

05:07:38.039 --> 05:07:39.440
THE LANGUAGE THAT IS

05:07:39.507 --> 05:07:40.108
POTENTIALLY GOING INTO THE BILL,

05:07:40.175 --> 05:07:41.810
AND LOOK FORWARD TO READING IT

05:07:41.876 --> 05:07:43.044
AND SEE IF IT REMOVES OUR

05:07:43.111 --> 05:07:44.045
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. ALL

05:07:44.112 --> 05:07:45.814
RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, WE'LL GO

05:07:45.880 --> 05:07:47.749
AHEAD AND BRING IT BACK TO THE

05:07:47.816 --> 05:07:48.917
DAIS. ANYBODY UP HERE HAVE ANY

05:07:48.983 --> 05:07:51.252
QUESTIONS? YES, MISS. SENATOR

05:07:51.319 --> 05:07:53.054
CABALLERO, I AM. I APPRECIATE

05:07:53.121 --> 05:07:55.223
WHAT YOU'RE YOU'RE DOING HERE,

05:07:55.290 --> 05:07:58.860
AND I WANT TO SECOND WHAT PORAC

05:07:58.927 --> 05:08:01.763
SAID. I MY BIGGEST CONCERN WHEN

05:08:01.830 --> 05:08:04.599
I READ THE BILL WAS THE OUT OF

05:08:04.666 --> 05:08:09.237
STATE. I THINK I THINK PUBLIC

05:08:09.304 --> 05:08:11.472
SAFETY OFFICERS IN CALIFORNIA

05:08:11.539 --> 05:08:12.507
UNDERSTAND WHAT THE STANDARDS

05:08:12.574 --> 05:08:15.043
ARE AND THEY GET TRAINING. BUT

05:08:15.109 --> 05:08:17.579
I'M A LITTLE NERVOUS ABOUT

05:08:17.645 --> 05:08:18.980
BRINGING IN OUT OF STATE

05:08:19.047 --> 05:08:20.548
OFFICERS. I UNDERSTAND THE NEED.

05:08:20.615 --> 05:08:22.917
IT'S INCREDIBLE THE NUMBER OF

05:08:22.984 --> 05:08:24.752
OFFICERS I WAS KIND OF BLOWN

05:08:24.819 --> 05:08:26.487
AWAY WITH WITH WITH THAT NUMBER.

05:08:26.554 --> 05:08:29.057
BUT IT'S A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME,

05:08:29.123 --> 05:08:30.325
AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT

05:08:30.391 --> 05:08:31.426
THE INTERACTIONS WITH THE

05:08:31.492 --> 05:08:33.061
PUBLIC ARE OF THE HIGHEST

05:08:33.127 --> 05:08:34.696
QUALITY. AND SO HOPEFULLY YOU

05:08:34.762 --> 05:08:37.999
CAN WORK IT OUT WITH THE

05:08:38.066 --> 05:08:39.434
OPPOSITION. AND I SEE YOU

05:08:39.500 --> 05:08:41.002
NODDING YOUR HEAD. SO AS LONG

05:08:41.069 --> 05:08:42.704
AS YOU CONTINUE TO TO WORK ON

05:08:42.770 --> 05:08:44.505
THAT, I, I, I'M WILLING TO

05:08:44.572 --> 05:08:45.506
SUPPORT THE BILL TODAY. IT'S

05:08:45.573 --> 05:08:47.275
GOT TO BE DONE. WE NEED WE NEED

05:08:47.342 --> 05:08:49.110
THE OFFICERS ON PATROL. PEOPLE

05:08:49.177 --> 05:08:50.545
WANT TO FEEL SAFE. THEY WANT TO

05:08:50.612 --> 05:08:53.414
HAVE A GOOD TIME. IT'S BEEN

05:08:53.481 --> 05:08:57.418
PHENOMENAL TO SEE THE FIFA.

05:08:57.485 --> 05:08:59.187
ACTIVITY AND ALL OVER THE

05:08:59.254 --> 05:09:01.389
COUNTRY, PEOPLE DOING PARADES,

05:09:01.456 --> 05:09:02.523
COUNTRIES DOING PARADES DOWN

05:09:02.590 --> 05:09:04.259
THE STREET. IT'S JUST IT WARMS

05:09:04.325 --> 05:09:06.461
MY HEART DURING A TIME WHEN WE

05:09:06.527 --> 05:09:08.730
HAVEN'T BEEN THE BEST ACTOR IN

05:09:08.796 --> 05:09:10.531
THE WORLD STAGE, TO HAVE PEOPLE

05:09:10.598 --> 05:09:11.933
HERE HAVING A GOOD TIME, AND WE

05:09:12.000 --> 05:09:13.701
WANT THAT TO HAPPEN DURING THE

05:09:13.768 --> 05:09:15.870
OLYMPICS AS WELL. SO THANK YOU

05:09:15.937 --> 05:09:17.272
FOR BRINGING THIS BILL AND FOR

05:09:17.338 --> 05:09:18.640
CONTINUING TO WORK. THANK YOU,

05:09:18.706 --> 05:09:20.808
MR. VICE. THANK YOU SENATOR.

05:09:20.875 --> 05:09:23.011
OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS?

05:09:23.077 --> 05:09:25.113
QUESTIONS, CONCERNS? ARE YOU

05:09:25.179 --> 05:09:26.247
GOING TO BE TAKING THE

05:09:26.314 --> 05:09:27.348
AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN

05:09:27.415 --> 05:09:28.750
OFFERED? YES. THE AMENDMENTS

05:09:28.816 --> 05:09:30.051
THAT WAS OFFERED BY. YES. I

05:09:30.118 --> 05:09:31.352
SAID THAT AT THE BEGINNING. YES.

05:09:31.419 --> 05:09:33.087
I'LL BE TAKING THEM. THANK YOU

05:09:33.154 --> 05:09:34.289
VERY MUCH. BY THE COMMITTEE.

05:09:34.355 --> 05:09:36.090
ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE THIS IN

05:09:36.157 --> 05:09:37.225
OUR COMMITTEE, AND I OUTLINED

05:09:37.292 --> 05:09:39.127
SOME CONCERNS. SO I'M GOING TO

05:09:39.193 --> 05:09:41.062
PAINT THE BIG PICTURE FOR US.

05:09:41.129 --> 05:09:44.332
SO WE'RE GOING TO ASK BASICALLY

05:09:44.399 --> 05:09:46.134
24,000 OFFICERS FROM PLACES

05:09:46.200 --> 05:09:48.703
LIKE DALLAS AND SOME OF THE

05:09:48.770 --> 05:09:50.305
BIGGER BECAUSE THE LITTLE ONES

05:09:50.371 --> 05:09:51.306
CAN'T SEND THEIR OFFICERS

05:09:51.372 --> 05:09:52.440
BECAUSE THEN THEY'D HAVE NOBODY

05:09:52.507 --> 05:09:53.708
TO COVER THEIR OWN PLACES. AND

05:09:53.775 --> 05:09:55.410
WE'RE GOING TO TELL THOSE GUYS

05:09:55.476 --> 05:09:56.577
THAT THEY'RE NOT REALLY TRAINED

05:09:56.644 --> 05:09:58.313
GOOD ENOUGH TO BE WORKING IN

05:09:58.379 --> 05:09:59.380
CALIFORNIA. SO WE'RE GOING TO

05:09:59.447 --> 05:10:00.481
PUT YOU THROUGH A LITTLE

05:10:00.548 --> 05:10:02.317
ACADEMY OF OUR OWN, AND THEN

05:10:02.383 --> 05:10:03.484
WE'RE GOING TO BRING YOU OVER.

05:10:03.551 --> 05:10:04.519
YOU'RE GOING TO PAY YOU

05:10:04.585 --> 05:10:06.321
OVERTIME BECAUSE THE WAY MUTUAL

05:10:06.387 --> 05:10:07.488
AID WORKS IS YOU GET PAID

05:10:07.555 --> 05:10:08.556
OVERTIME FOR THE MINUTE. YOU

05:10:08.623 --> 05:10:10.391
PICK UP YOUR SUITCASE AND WALK

05:10:10.458 --> 05:10:12.293
OUT THE DOOR ON A MUTUAL AID

05:10:12.360 --> 05:10:13.528
LIKE THIS, TO THE MINUTE YOU

05:10:13.594 --> 05:10:14.629
TAKE YOUR SUITCASE AND WALK

05:10:14.696 --> 05:10:16.431
BACK IN THE DOOR. SO THAT'S

05:10:16.497 --> 05:10:17.465
VERY, VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE

05:10:17.532 --> 05:10:19.767
LABOR. I WOULD IMAGINE THEY'RE

05:10:19.834 --> 05:10:22.770
GOING TO BE TAXED AT THEIR HOME

05:10:22.837 --> 05:10:25.306
OR THEIR CALIFORNIA WAGES.

05:10:25.373 --> 05:10:26.441
THAT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER

05:10:26.507 --> 05:10:28.009
ISSUE FOR THEM BECAUSE IF

05:10:28.076 --> 05:10:29.243
THEY'RE GETTING TAXED AT

05:10:29.310 --> 05:10:31.279
CALIFORNIA WAGES, THAT'S

05:10:31.346 --> 05:10:32.413
ANOTHER REASON FOR THEM NOT TO

05:10:32.480 --> 05:10:35.750
WANT TO HELP AN INCIDENT LIKE

05:10:35.817 --> 05:10:37.552
THIS. I CALL IT AN INCIDENT.

05:10:37.618 --> 05:10:42.590
SORRY. TAKES KIND OF AN ALL OF

05:10:42.657 --> 05:10:46.894
YOUR GOVERNMENT EFFORT. AND SO

05:10:46.961 --> 05:10:48.463
IF WE'RE GOING TO HAMSTRING US

05:10:48.529 --> 05:10:49.664
AND SAY WE DON'T REALLY WANT

05:10:49.731 --> 05:10:51.532
THE FEDS TO HELP US, BUT WE

05:10:51.599 --> 05:10:53.167
WANT SOME OUT OF STATE PEOPLE,

05:10:53.234 --> 05:10:54.602
WE'RE GOING TO BEG THEM TO COME

05:10:54.669 --> 05:10:56.471
IN, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GIVE

05:10:56.537 --> 05:10:57.638
THEM ALL THESE RULES, AND WE'RE

05:10:57.705 --> 05:10:59.474
GOING TO TELL THEM THEY'RE NOT

05:10:59.540 --> 05:11:00.575
REALLY GOOD ENOUGH AT WHERE

05:11:00.641 --> 05:11:02.477
THEY ARE. THEY NEED TO BE GOOD

05:11:02.543 --> 05:11:03.644
ENOUGH FOR US, AND THEN HAVE

05:11:03.711 --> 05:11:05.480
THEM COME OVER HERE AND GO

05:11:05.546 --> 05:11:06.547
THROUGH TRAINING AND THEN PAY

05:11:06.614 --> 05:11:09.217
THEM AN UNGODLY AMOUNT OF MONEY.

05:11:09.283 --> 05:11:10.685
AND IN THE MEANWHILE, YOU KNOW,

05:11:10.752 --> 05:11:12.487
OUR OFFICERS HAVE BEEN

05:11:12.553 --> 05:11:13.888
HAMSTRUNG IN THEIR EFFORTS TO

05:11:13.955 --> 05:11:17.158
RECRUIT BECAUSE OF OUR RULES.

05:11:17.225 --> 05:11:18.893
I'M VOTING YES JUST BECAUSE I

05:11:18.960 --> 05:11:20.428
WANT TO SEE IT. I WANT TO SEE

05:11:20.495 --> 05:11:22.397
IT WORK. I JUST WANT TO I WANT

05:11:22.463 --> 05:11:24.298
TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO

05:11:24.365 --> 05:11:26.200
MAKE THAT WORK. BECAUSE FAILURE

05:11:26.267 --> 05:11:27.969
IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE IS

05:11:28.036 --> 05:11:32.240
NOT AN OPTION. WE CANNOT HAVE A

05:11:32.306 --> 05:11:33.641
MAJOR EVENT LIKE THIS IF WE

05:11:33.708 --> 05:11:35.810
CANNOT OFFER THE PUBLIC SAFETY

05:11:35.877 --> 05:11:38.279
PART OF IT. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M

05:11:38.346 --> 05:11:39.414
AFRAID OF. I'M AFRAID WE HAVE

05:11:39.480 --> 05:11:40.681
PUT OURSELVES IN A POSITION

05:11:40.748 --> 05:11:43.718
WHERE WE CAN'T. SO ANYWAY, I

05:11:43.785 --> 05:11:45.686
WILL LET YOU CLOSE. I WILL, I

05:11:45.753 --> 05:11:47.688
WILL BE SUPPORTING YOUR BILL.

05:11:47.755 --> 05:11:52.360
I'M I'M VERY SKEPTICAL HAVING

05:11:52.427 --> 05:11:53.761
UNDERSTANDING THE MUTUAL AID

05:11:53.828 --> 05:11:55.363
SYSTEM AND WHAT IT TAKES WHEN

05:11:55.430 --> 05:11:56.998
WE'RE WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT

05:11:57.065 --> 05:11:58.599
EVENTS THIS LARGE WITH THAT

05:11:58.666 --> 05:12:01.002
AMOUNT OF PERSONNEL, THAT IS A

05:12:01.069 --> 05:12:03.838
LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE. AND YES,

05:12:03.905 --> 05:12:05.440
OUR OUR PEOPLE HERE IN

05:12:05.506 --> 05:12:07.208
CALIFORNIA NEED TO BE USED

05:12:07.275 --> 05:12:08.676
FIRST. BUT WE CAN'T WE CAN'T

05:12:08.743 --> 05:12:11.112
PUT GUYS ON DUTY FOR, FOR TWO

05:12:11.179 --> 05:12:14.048
MONTHS. SO SO THAT'S JUST NOT

05:12:14.115 --> 05:12:16.884
GOING TO HAPPEN. SO ANYWAY,

05:12:16.951 --> 05:12:18.853
I'LL LET YOU CLOSE AND THEN AND

05:12:18.920 --> 05:12:20.154
THEN WE'LL BRING IT BACK FOR A

05:12:20.221 --> 05:12:21.689
VOTE. WELL, FIRST I'LL CLOSE

05:12:21.756 --> 05:12:24.058
WITH I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT LA

05:12:24.125 --> 05:12:25.560
28, THE OLYMPICS AND

05:12:25.626 --> 05:12:26.928
PARALYMPICS COMING TO LOS

05:12:26.994 --> 05:12:28.396
ANGELES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A

05:12:28.463 --> 05:12:30.231
FANTASTIC TIME. I'M LOOKING AT

05:12:30.298 --> 05:12:31.399
EVERYBODY OUT IN THE AUDIENCE,

05:12:31.466 --> 05:12:32.600
AND I KNOW THAT THEY'RE EXCITED

05:12:32.667 --> 05:12:34.435
AS WELL. BUT BUT MOST

05:12:34.502 --> 05:12:36.037
IMPORTANTLY, WE HAVE TO BE SAFE.

05:12:36.104 --> 05:12:37.505
AND I AM GOING TO CONTINUE TO

05:12:37.572 --> 05:12:39.173
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION. WE'VE

05:12:39.240 --> 05:12:40.975
BEEN HAVING CONVERSATION AND I

05:12:41.042 --> 05:12:42.243
ACTUALLY DO GET GET WHAT

05:12:42.310 --> 05:12:43.511
THEY'RE SAYING. WE HAVE HIGH

05:12:43.578 --> 05:12:44.679
STANDARDS. WE'RE NOT GOING TO

05:12:44.745 --> 05:12:45.780
TELL PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE NOT

05:12:45.847 --> 05:12:48.249
GOOD ENOUGH. MR. VICE CHAIR.

05:12:48.316 --> 05:12:50.017
WE'RE GOING TO SAY, COME IN,

05:12:50.084 --> 05:12:51.686
AND I KNOW THAT YOU MAY HAVE

05:12:51.752 --> 05:12:52.787
DIFFERENT RULES THAN WE HAVE.

05:12:52.854 --> 05:12:54.689
AND SO WE JUST WANT TO TRAIN

05:12:54.755 --> 05:12:55.690
YOU ON CALIFORNIA RULES,

05:12:55.756 --> 05:12:56.824
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T, THEY'RE

05:12:56.891 --> 05:12:57.892
GOING TO BRING THE FEDERAL

05:12:57.959 --> 05:12:58.960
GOVERNMENT IN ANYWAY. I MEAN,

05:12:59.026 --> 05:13:00.862
WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS DONE. YOU

05:13:00.928 --> 05:13:02.697
KNOW, IT'S JUST WE WOULD LOVE

05:13:02.763 --> 05:13:04.866
TO HAVE USE USE OFFICERS FROM

05:13:04.932 --> 05:13:06.534
FROM OUT OF STATE, BUT WE ARE

05:13:06.601 --> 05:13:08.169
GOING TO USE OUR OFFICERS FIRST.

05:13:08.236 --> 05:13:09.770
WE RESPECT THEM. WE HIGHLY

05:13:09.837 --> 05:13:10.938
APPRECIATE THEM, BUT WE KNOW

05:13:11.005 --> 05:13:12.673
THAT WE CAN'T TAKE THEM FROM,

05:13:12.740 --> 05:13:14.075
YOU KNOW, THE LITTLE, LITTLE

05:13:14.142 --> 05:13:15.309
TOWNS AND LITTLE CITIES AND

05:13:15.376 --> 05:13:16.711
LEAVE THEM UNPROTECTED. AND SO

05:13:16.777 --> 05:13:18.045
I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH

05:13:18.112 --> 05:13:20.281
THE OPPOSITION. AND WITH THAT,

05:13:20.348 --> 05:13:22.416
I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK

05:13:22.483 --> 05:13:24.285
YOU. ALL RIGHT. BRING IT BACK

05:13:24.352 --> 05:13:26.988
FOR A VOTE. ÁP 2411. MCHENRY

05:13:27.054 --> 05:13:28.356
MOTIONS DO PASS, AS AMENDED, TO

05:13:28.422 --> 05:13:31.425
APPROPRIATIONS. AGAIN, SAY I

05:13:31.492 --> 05:13:33.928
SAY TO A CABALLERO CABALLERO I

05:13:33.995 --> 05:13:37.198
ORTEZ PEREZ WIENER I WIENER I

05:13:37.265 --> 05:13:39.433
THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'LL KEEP

05:13:39.500 --> 05:13:41.836
THAT BILL OPEN FOR PEOPLE TO

05:13:41.903 --> 05:13:43.638
COME IN AND VOTE ON. MR. HANEY,

05:13:43.704 --> 05:13:47.475
YOUR NEXT. AND THEN I'LL COME

05:13:47.542 --> 05:13:51.479
BACK. OH, OKAY. THANK YOU. NOT

05:13:51.546 --> 05:13:53.981
AT THE END. YEAH. HE'S IN FILE

05:13:54.048 --> 05:13:56.250
ORDER, ACTUALLY. HE'S WAY UP

05:13:56.317 --> 05:14:00.154
HERE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR.

05:14:00.221 --> 05:14:01.722
VICE CHAIR AND MEMBERS, I WANT

05:14:01.789 --> 05:14:03.391
TO START BY THANKING THE STAFF

05:14:03.457 --> 05:14:05.293
FOR THE WORK ON THE BILL AND

05:14:05.359 --> 05:14:05.993
ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE'S

05:14:06.060 --> 05:14:08.496
AMENDMENTS. AB 1897 WILL

05:14:08.563 --> 05:14:09.564
STRENGTHEN CALIFORNIA'S

05:14:09.630 --> 05:14:11.365
MENTALLY DISORDERED OFFENDERS

05:14:11.432 --> 05:14:12.400
EVALUATION PROCESS THROUGH

05:14:12.466 --> 05:14:13.768
EVIDENCE BASED RISK ASSESSMENTS

05:14:13.834 --> 05:14:15.336
AND MORE EFFICIENT COURT

05:14:15.403 --> 05:14:16.537
PROCEEDINGS. THE NEED FOR THIS

05:14:16.604 --> 05:14:18.673
BILL WAS UNDERSCORED BY A CASE

05:14:18.739 --> 05:14:20.208
WHICH OCCURRED IN SAN FRANCISCO,

05:14:20.274 --> 05:14:21.709
WHEN A REPEAT OFFENDER WITH A

05:14:21.776 --> 05:14:22.810
SEVERE MENTAL HEALTH DISORDER

05:14:22.877 --> 05:14:24.612
WAS COMMITTED AS A MENTALLY

05:14:24.679 --> 05:14:25.746
DISORDERED OFFENDER AND LATER

05:14:25.813 --> 05:14:27.381
EVALUATED FOR RELEASE. DURING

05:14:27.448 --> 05:14:28.983
THAT PROCESS, EXPERTS REACHED

05:14:29.050 --> 05:14:30.117
CONFLICTING CONCLUSIONS ABOUT

05:14:30.184 --> 05:14:31.852
WHETHER HE CONTINUED TO POSE A

05:14:31.919 --> 05:14:33.321
SUBSTANTIAL DANGER OF PHYSICAL

05:14:33.387 --> 05:14:35.423
HARM TO OTHERS. BECAUSE EXPERTS

05:14:35.489 --> 05:14:36.891
REACHED DIFFERENT CONCLUSIONS,

05:14:36.958 --> 05:14:38.526
THE COURT FOUND HE DID NOT MEET

05:14:38.593 --> 05:14:40.127
THE STATUTORY CRITERIA FOR

05:14:40.194 --> 05:14:41.329
CONTINUED COMMITMENT IN ORDER

05:14:41.395 --> 05:14:42.997
TO RELEASE. FOLLOWING THAT

05:14:43.064 --> 05:14:44.532
RELEASE, HE WAS REPEATEDLY

05:14:44.599 --> 05:14:45.566
REPORTEDLY SEEN APPROACHING AND

05:14:45.633 --> 05:14:46.634
HARASSING WOMEN AGAIN AND WAS

05:14:46.701 --> 05:14:48.169
LATER TAKEN BACK INTO CUSTODY

05:14:48.236 --> 05:14:50.338
FOR AN ALLEGED PAROLE VIOLATION.

05:14:50.404 --> 05:14:52.073
AB 1897 RESPONDS TO CASES LIKE

05:14:52.139 --> 05:14:53.874
THIS BY ADDING IN SPECIFIC

05:14:53.941 --> 05:14:55.409
CRITERIA THAT EXPERTS SHOULD

05:14:55.476 --> 05:14:56.711
TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN

05:14:56.777 --> 05:14:58.579
CONSIDERING A REEVALUATION OF A

05:14:58.646 --> 05:14:59.747
MENTALLY DISORDERED OFFENDER.

05:14:59.814 --> 05:15:01.816
THIS WILL HELP PROMOTE MORE

05:15:01.882 --> 05:15:03.117
TRANSPARENT AND EVIDENCE BASED

05:15:03.184 --> 05:15:04.619
EVALUATIONS THAT ARE CONSISTENT

05:15:04.685 --> 05:15:05.353
CONSISTENT BETWEEN DIFFERENT

05:15:05.419 --> 05:15:07.555
STATE HOSPITALS. THE BILL ALSO

05:15:07.622 --> 05:15:09.223
ALLOWS PETITIONS TO BE HEARD IN

05:15:09.290 --> 05:15:10.258
THE COUNTY OF COMMITMENT TO

05:15:10.324 --> 05:15:11.759
STATE PRISON ONLY IF THE

05:15:11.826 --> 05:15:12.860
PETITIONER, THE PROSECUTING

05:15:12.927 --> 05:15:14.395
ATTORNEY AND THE DEFENSE

05:15:14.462 --> 05:15:16.130
COUNSEL ALL AGREE TO CHANGE THE

05:15:16.197 --> 05:15:17.365
LOCATION. I'VE BEEN WORKING

05:15:17.431 --> 05:15:18.633
CLOSELY WITH OPPOSITION TO

05:15:18.699 --> 05:15:20.868
RESOLVE THEIR CONCERNS. I WILL

05:15:20.935 --> 05:15:22.270
CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS ON

05:15:22.336 --> 05:15:23.804
OUTSTANDING CONCERNS WITH ME.

05:15:23.871 --> 05:15:25.339
TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT OF THE

05:15:25.406 --> 05:15:26.974
BILL IS NIKI MOORE, SAN

05:15:27.041 --> 05:15:28.409
FRANCISCO ASSISTANT DISTRICT

05:15:28.476 --> 05:15:30.611
ATTORNEY, AND DOCTOR REBECCA

05:15:30.678 --> 05:15:34.081
APONTE, A FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST.

05:15:34.148 --> 05:15:35.983
THANK YOU, MR. VICE CHAIR.

05:15:36.050 --> 05:15:38.085
THANK YOU, MR. VICE CHAIR AND

05:15:38.152 --> 05:15:39.453
MEMBERS, NIKKI MOORE WITH THE

05:15:39.520 --> 05:15:40.254
SAN FRANCISCO DISTRICT

05:15:40.321 --> 05:15:42.056
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. I WANT TO

05:15:42.123 --> 05:15:44.959
THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR WORKING

05:15:45.026 --> 05:15:48.129
WITH US ON LANGUAGE AND THE

05:15:48.195 --> 05:15:49.163
STAKEHOLDERS FOR CONTINUING TO

05:15:49.230 --> 05:15:51.065
WORK WITH US ON LANGUAGE. AS TO

05:15:51.132 --> 05:15:52.566
THE JURISDICTION PIECE, THIS

05:15:52.633 --> 05:15:54.302
WILL ALLOW THE PARTIES TO

05:15:54.368 --> 05:15:55.970
STIPULATE TO HEAR THE HEARING

05:15:56.037 --> 05:15:57.872
IN THE COUNTY OF COMMITMENT,

05:15:57.938 --> 05:16:00.741
WHEN THAT IS APPROPRIATE. SO WE

05:16:00.808 --> 05:16:01.475
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN AYE

05:16:01.542 --> 05:16:06.514
VOTE. HI, I'M REBECCA PONCE,

05:16:06.580 --> 05:16:08.049
I'M A FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST AND

05:16:08.115 --> 05:16:11.018
SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN PC2960

05:16:11.085 --> 05:16:12.420
ET SEQ, WHICH IS COMMONLY KNOWN

05:16:12.486 --> 05:16:13.988
AS THE OFFENDER WITH MENTAL

05:16:14.055 --> 05:16:16.957
HEALTH DISORDER, OR HD. I

05:16:17.024 --> 05:16:18.693
WANTED TO EXPRESS GRATITUDE TO

05:16:18.759 --> 05:16:20.227
THE AUTHOR, HIS OFFICE AND

05:16:20.294 --> 05:16:22.029
OTHER STAKEHOLDERS FOR THEIR

05:16:22.096 --> 05:16:23.097
RESPONSIVENESS AND ADDRESSING

05:16:23.164 --> 05:16:24.198
CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED ABOUT

05:16:24.265 --> 05:16:26.367
A PRIOR VERSION OF THIS BILL,

05:16:26.434 --> 05:16:29.670
AND I WANT TO JUST QUICKLY

05:16:29.737 --> 05:16:31.906
STATE MY SUPPORT FOR THE ASPECT

05:16:31.972 --> 05:16:33.607
OF THE BILL, KEEPING THE

05:16:33.674 --> 05:16:35.076
JURISDICTION OF PATIENT

05:16:35.142 --> 05:16:37.478
PETITIONS IN THE COUNTY OF

05:16:37.545 --> 05:16:39.714
THEIR CURRENT TREATMENT OR

05:16:39.780 --> 05:16:40.815
IMPRISONMENT, BECAUSE THAT

05:16:40.881 --> 05:16:42.183
MAINTAINS CONTINUITY OF PATIENT

05:16:42.249 --> 05:16:43.951
CARE. PATIENTS CAN HAVE THEIR

05:16:44.018 --> 05:16:44.752
HEARINGS WHERE THEY ARE

05:16:44.819 --> 05:16:46.120
CURRENTLY LIVING AND RECEIVING

05:16:46.187 --> 05:16:46.954
TREATMENT, RATHER THAN HAVING

05:16:47.021 --> 05:16:48.589
TO TRANSFER TO A COUNTY JAIL IN

05:16:48.656 --> 05:16:49.690
THEIR COUNTY OF PRISON

05:16:49.757 --> 05:16:51.225
COMMITMENT. AND IT ALSO

05:16:51.292 --> 05:16:53.027
PROTECTS THE LEGAL EXPERTISE IN

05:16:53.094 --> 05:16:54.428
THIS NICHE LAW BY KEEPING THE

05:16:54.495 --> 05:16:55.529
HEARINGS WHERE THAT EXPERTISE

05:16:55.596 --> 05:16:57.398
ALREADY EXISTS, RATHER THAN

05:16:57.465 --> 05:16:59.533
DISPERSING IT ACROSS

05:16:59.600 --> 05:17:02.036
CALIFORNIA'S 58 COUNTIES,

05:17:02.103 --> 05:17:03.003
ASSESSMENT OF DANGEROUSNESS IS

05:17:03.070 --> 05:17:05.306
THE MOST COMPLEX AND SUBJECTIVE

05:17:05.373 --> 05:17:07.408
ASPECT OF THE EVALUATIONS, AND

05:17:07.475 --> 05:17:09.243
SO IT'S WHERE WE SEE THE MOST

05:17:09.310 --> 05:17:10.711
DISCREPANCY BETWEEN EXPERT

05:17:10.778 --> 05:17:12.813
OPINIONS. DIFFERENT EVALUATORS

05:17:12.880 --> 05:17:14.548
ON THE SAME CASE OFTEN DO NOT

05:17:14.615 --> 05:17:15.883
HAVE ACCESS TO THE SAME SOURCES

05:17:15.950 --> 05:17:17.785
OF DATA, AND EVALUATORS MAY

05:17:17.852 --> 05:17:19.620
APPLY DISPARATE METHODS FOR

05:17:19.687 --> 05:17:21.555
ANALYZING THAT DATA. THE CASE

05:17:21.622 --> 05:17:22.757
THAT WAS THE IMPETUS FOR THIS

05:17:22.823 --> 05:17:24.325
BILL DEMONSTRATES HOW CONFUSING

05:17:24.392 --> 05:17:25.793
IT CAN BE FOR THE TRIER. OF

05:17:25.860 --> 05:17:27.895
FACT, WHEN EVALUATORS USE

05:17:27.962 --> 05:17:29.997
INCOMPATIBLE METHODS TO ASSESS

05:17:30.064 --> 05:17:31.265
DANGEROUSNESS, LEADING TO AN

05:17:31.332 --> 05:17:32.900
APPLES TO ORANGES COMPARISON

05:17:32.967 --> 05:17:35.136
BETWEEN EXPERT OPINIONS. THE

05:17:35.202 --> 05:17:36.504
BEST METHOD FORENSIC EVALUATORS

05:17:36.570 --> 05:17:37.605
CURRENTLY HAVE FOR ASSESSING

05:17:37.671 --> 05:17:39.373
FUTURE RISK IS A PROCESS CALLED

05:17:39.440 --> 05:17:40.808
STRUCTURED PROFESSIONAL

05:17:40.875 --> 05:17:42.376
JUDGMENT, IN WHICH AN EVALUATOR

05:17:42.443 --> 05:17:43.511
EXAMINES A SET OF FACTORS THAT

05:17:43.577 --> 05:17:45.112
ARE EMPIRICALLY LINKED TO THE

05:17:45.179 --> 05:17:46.981
TYPE OF RISK BEING ASSESSED,

05:17:47.047 --> 05:17:48.416
AND USE THAT SET OF FACTORS TO

05:17:48.482 --> 05:17:49.850
STRUCTURE THEIR CASE

05:17:49.917 --> 05:17:51.118
CONCEPTUALIZATION. IF THERE WAS

05:17:51.185 --> 05:17:52.319
AN EXISTING STRUCTURED

05:17:52.386 --> 05:17:53.821
PROFESSIONAL JUDGMENT TOOL THAT

05:17:53.888 --> 05:17:55.623
EXAMINES THE NARROW QUESTION OF

05:17:55.689 --> 05:17:57.091
WHETHER A PERSON, BY REASON OF

05:17:57.158 --> 05:17:58.459
THEIR SEVERE MENTAL HEALTH

05:17:58.526 --> 05:17:59.627
DISORDER, REPRESENTS A

05:17:59.693 --> 05:18:00.628
SUBSTANTIAL DANGER OF PHYSICAL

05:18:00.694 --> 05:18:02.463
HARM TO OTHERS. EVALUATORS

05:18:02.530 --> 05:18:04.665
WOULD USE IT, BUT THERE'S NOT.

05:18:04.732 --> 05:18:06.066
THERE ARE, HOWEVER, EVIDENCE

05:18:06.133 --> 05:18:07.268
BASED FACTORS THAT CAN ASSIST

05:18:07.334 --> 05:18:08.969
IN ANSWERING THE PSYCHO LEGAL

05:18:09.036 --> 05:18:12.206
QUESTION. AB 1897 IMPROVES UPON

05:18:12.273 --> 05:18:13.507
EXISTING LAW BY ESTABLISHING A

05:18:13.574 --> 05:18:15.075
BASIC FRAMEWORK FOR THE

05:18:15.142 --> 05:18:16.844
DANGEROUSNESS PRONG OF

05:18:16.911 --> 05:18:19.013
EVALUATIONS. THE RUBRIC ITEMS

05:18:19.079 --> 05:18:20.748
CONTAINED IN AB 97 ARE A

05:18:20.815 --> 05:18:22.149
COMBINATION OF THE MOST SALIENT

05:18:22.216 --> 05:18:23.717
AND EMPIRICALLY SUPPORTED

05:18:23.784 --> 05:18:25.119
FACTORS, AS WELL AS FACTORS

05:18:25.186 --> 05:18:26.487
THAT PRIOR CASE LAW HAS

05:18:26.554 --> 05:18:27.455
DETERMINED SHOULD BE INCLUDED

05:18:27.521 --> 05:18:28.689
IN THE ASSESSMENT OF

05:18:28.756 --> 05:18:30.891
DANGEROUSNESS FOR ALL MDS.

05:18:30.958 --> 05:18:31.926
HAVING A UNIFIED BASIC

05:18:31.992 --> 05:18:33.427
FRAMEWORK FOR THESE EVALUATIONS

05:18:33.494 --> 05:18:34.528
WILL ASSIST THE TRIER OF FACT

05:18:34.595 --> 05:18:37.364
IN DISPUTED CASES BY

05:18:37.431 --> 05:18:38.432
FACILITATING AN APPLES TO

05:18:38.499 --> 05:18:40.201
APPLES COMPARISON BETWEEN

05:18:40.267 --> 05:18:42.069
DIFFERING EXPERT OPINIONS,

05:18:42.136 --> 05:18:43.537
WHICH WILL HELP REVEAL ANY

05:18:43.604 --> 05:18:44.371
DIFFERENCES IN THE QUALITY OF

05:18:44.438 --> 05:18:46.474
THE DATA THAT THE EXPERT RELIED

05:18:46.540 --> 05:18:47.775
UPON AND THE QUALITY OF THE

05:18:47.842 --> 05:18:48.876
ANALYSIS. THE EXPERT APPLIED TO

05:18:48.943 --> 05:18:50.711
THAT DATA, AND FOR THOSE

05:18:50.778 --> 05:18:51.946
REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR

05:18:52.012 --> 05:18:53.981
YOUR SUPPORT FOR AB 1897. THANK

05:18:54.048 --> 05:18:56.083
YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, CHAIR.

05:18:56.150 --> 05:19:00.354
OVER HERE NOW. THAT CONCLUDES

05:19:00.421 --> 05:19:03.624
THE SUPPORT TESTIMONY. ANYONE

05:19:03.691 --> 05:19:06.126
THAT WOULD LIKE TO JOIN ON. OH

05:19:06.193 --> 05:19:08.362
YEAH, I WAS I WAS GOING TO SAY

05:19:08.429 --> 05:19:11.732
I HEARD HER. OKAY. YES, PLEASE

05:19:11.799 --> 05:19:13.367
COME FORWARD. MADAM CHAIR, DAN

05:19:13.434 --> 05:19:14.802
FELIZARDO, ON BEHALF OF THE LOS

05:19:14.869 --> 05:19:15.736
ANGELES COUNTY DISTRICT

05:19:15.803 --> 05:19:16.937
ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IN SUPPORT.

05:19:17.004 --> 05:19:20.608
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD

05:19:20.674 --> 05:19:22.343
AFTERNOON, MADAM CHAIR. I. VÆ

05:19:22.409 --> 05:19:23.444
FITZPATRICK, ON BEHALF OF THE

05:19:23.511 --> 05:19:24.478
CALIFORNIA DISTRICT ATTORNEYS

05:19:24.545 --> 05:19:25.446
ASSOCIATION AND THE RIVERSIDE

05:19:25.513 --> 05:19:26.547
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

05:19:26.614 --> 05:19:28.148
OFFICE AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU

05:19:28.215 --> 05:19:30.284
VERY MUCH. IS THERE IS THERE

05:19:30.351 --> 05:19:31.418
ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO

05:19:31.485 --> 05:19:34.622
TESTIFY IN SUPPORT? SEEING NONE.

05:19:34.688 --> 05:19:41.762
TESTIMONY IN OPPOSITION. GOOD

05:19:41.829 --> 05:19:43.230
AFTERNOON. MARK GEORGE, ON

05:19:43.297 --> 05:19:45.366
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC

05:19:45.432 --> 05:19:46.934
DEFENDER'S ASSOCIATION, MADAM

05:19:47.001 --> 05:19:49.003
CHAIR TABLE, IF YOU'D LIKE.

05:19:49.069 --> 05:19:50.771
THANK YOU. I THINK THIS WILL BE

05:19:50.838 --> 05:19:53.374
SUFFICIENT, THOUGH. WE HAVE

05:19:53.440 --> 05:19:55.509
SOME SERIOUS CONCERNS ABOUT THE

05:19:55.576 --> 05:19:57.177
BILL. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH

05:19:57.244 --> 05:19:59.480
THE AUTHOR AND THE COMMITTEE.

05:19:59.547 --> 05:20:02.383
THE AMENDMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN

05:20:02.449 --> 05:20:04.451
CURRENTLY BEEN ACCEPTED BY THE

05:20:04.518 --> 05:20:06.287
AUTHOR AND PROPOSED BY THE

05:20:06.353 --> 05:20:08.022
COMMITTEE ARE NOT CONSISTENT

05:20:08.088 --> 05:20:09.523
WITH THE AMENDMENTS THAT CAME

05:20:09.590 --> 05:20:11.659
OUT OF ASSEMBLY PUBLIC SAFETY.

05:20:11.725 --> 05:20:13.827
WE HOPE THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO

05:20:13.894 --> 05:20:16.297
RESOLVE THOSE DIFFERENCES WITH

05:20:16.363 --> 05:20:18.799
CONTINUING CONVERSATIONS. THANK

05:20:18.866 --> 05:20:23.270
YOU. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. HI.

05:20:23.337 --> 05:20:25.372
LIZ GUTIERREZ, EXPRESSING

05:20:25.439 --> 05:20:27.508
SIMILAR CONCERN AS MY COLLEAGUE

05:20:27.575 --> 05:20:29.376
ON BEHALF OF SMART JUSTICE

05:20:29.443 --> 05:20:30.377
CALIFORNIA, REVIEWING THE

05:20:30.444 --> 05:20:31.245
AMENDMENTS. THANK YOU. THANK

05:20:31.312 --> 05:20:34.715
YOU VERY MUCH. IV RODRIGUEZ

05:20:34.782 --> 05:20:35.983
ALIGNING OUR COMMENTS WITH THAT

05:20:36.050 --> 05:20:38.285
OF THE CPDA ON BEHALF OF ACLU,

05:20:38.352 --> 05:20:40.421
CAL ACTION AND SAN FRANCISCO

05:20:40.487 --> 05:20:42.356
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. THANK

05:20:42.423 --> 05:20:44.425
YOU VERY MUCH. ANYONE ELSE IN

05:20:44.491 --> 05:20:47.394
OPPOSITION? SEEING NONE. I'LL

05:20:47.461 --> 05:20:48.729
BRING IT BACK TO COMMITTEE. AND

05:20:48.796 --> 05:20:52.366
IT'S ME, SO I. THIS IS A

05:20:52.433 --> 05:20:55.169
COMPLICATED AREA, BUT IT'S IT

05:20:55.235 --> 05:20:58.172
IS A. IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE

05:20:58.238 --> 05:21:00.908
OF THE NATURE OF THE INQUIRY.

05:21:00.975 --> 05:21:06.046
AND IT IS DIFFICULT AT BEST TO

05:21:06.113 --> 05:21:07.381
PREDICT WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING

05:21:07.448 --> 05:21:09.583
TO DO. AND WITH A MENTAL

05:21:09.650 --> 05:21:11.485
ILLNESS, IT'S EVEN HARDER TO

05:21:11.552 --> 05:21:12.620
PREDICT. BUT WE WANT TO GET IT

05:21:12.686 --> 05:21:14.521
RIGHT. AND SO I APPRECIATE THE

05:21:14.588 --> 05:21:15.689
WORK YOU'RE DOING ON THIS, AND

05:21:15.756 --> 05:21:17.458
I ASSUME YOU'LL CONTINUE TO

05:21:17.524 --> 05:21:20.461
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION. AND

05:21:20.527 --> 05:21:22.296
WITH THAT, I ALLOW YOU TO

05:21:22.363 --> 05:21:24.031
CONCLUDE, AND WE'LL TAKE UP A

05:21:24.098 --> 05:21:25.899
MOTION WHEN WE GET SOME MORE

05:21:25.966 --> 05:21:27.868
MEMBERS. AND I AND I DO HAVE TO

05:21:27.935 --> 05:21:29.236
SAY THAT THERE ARE I'M SUPPOSED

05:21:29.303 --> 05:21:31.005
TO BE IN TWO OTHER COMMITTEES.

05:21:31.071 --> 05:21:34.108
AND SO PEOPLE ARE PRESENTING

05:21:34.174 --> 05:21:35.643
BILLS AND THEN THEY'RE SERVING

05:21:35.709 --> 05:21:36.977
ANOTHER COMMITTEE. SO THAT'S

05:21:37.044 --> 05:21:38.345
WHY YOU SEE PEOPLE COMING IN

05:21:38.412 --> 05:21:39.580
AND OUT. IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE

05:21:39.647 --> 05:21:41.649
NOT INTERESTED. THEY HAVE A

05:21:41.715 --> 05:21:44.184
MULTIPLE THINGS TO DO. SO I'LL

05:21:44.251 --> 05:21:46.053
ALLOW YOU TO CONCLUDE. THANK

05:21:46.120 --> 05:21:47.421
YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.

05:21:47.488 --> 05:21:48.489
ABSOLUTELY. WE'VE BEEN, AS YOU

05:21:48.555 --> 05:21:49.556
SAID, WORKING, WORKING TO TRY

05:21:49.623 --> 05:21:51.492
TO GET THIS RIGHT. WE HAD WE

05:21:51.558 --> 05:21:52.760
HAD CHOSEN AN ASSESSMENT TOOL.

05:21:52.826 --> 05:21:54.461
AND THEN THERE WAS SOME DIALOG

05:21:54.528 --> 05:21:55.729
ABOUT HOW IT WAS BETTER TO HAVE

05:21:55.796 --> 05:21:57.631
A SET OF FACTORS THAT SHOULD BE

05:21:57.698 --> 05:21:58.699
CONSIDERED. SO FOLKS WEREN'T

05:21:58.766 --> 05:22:00.567
LOCKED IN IN THAT WAY. WE JUST

05:22:00.634 --> 05:22:02.469
WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS

05:22:02.536 --> 05:22:03.470
SOME CONSISTENCY, SOME CLARITY

05:22:03.537 --> 05:22:04.638
ON THE FACTORS THAT SHOULD BE

05:22:04.705 --> 05:22:05.706
CONSIDERED, THAT WILL PROTECT

05:22:05.773 --> 05:22:07.207
BOTH THE INDIVIDUAL AND THEIR

05:22:07.274 --> 05:22:08.676
RIGHTS, AND ALSO MAKE SURE THAT

05:22:08.742 --> 05:22:09.777
WE PROTECT PUBLIC SAFETY. AND

05:22:09.843 --> 05:22:11.578
WE WILL, OF COURSE, CONTINUE TO

05:22:11.645 --> 05:22:13.047
WORK WITH THE OPPOSITION TO TO

05:22:13.113 --> 05:22:14.815
TRY TO ADDRESS ALL OF THOSE

05:22:14.882 --> 05:22:16.984
CONCERNS AND GET THIS RIGHT FOR

05:22:17.051 --> 05:22:18.185
EVERYONE. WITH THAT AT THE

05:22:18.252 --> 05:22:19.520
RIGHT TIME, RESPECTFULLY ASK

05:22:19.586 --> 05:22:21.121
FOR YOUR VOTE. THANK YOU VERY

05:22:21.188 --> 05:22:23.090
MUCH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

05:22:23.157 --> 05:22:24.491
BEING HERE AND FOR YOUR

05:22:24.558 --> 05:22:26.794
TESTIMONY. APPRECIATE IT. OKAY.

05:22:26.860 --> 05:22:28.495
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ASSEMBLY

05:22:28.562 --> 05:22:39.973
MEMBER LOWENTHAL. YOU ARE UP.

05:22:40.040 --> 05:22:41.375
OKAY. GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM

05:22:41.442 --> 05:22:47.214
CHAIR. SENATORS. EXCUSE ME. IT

05:22:47.281 --> 05:22:50.451
IS MY PLEASURE TO PRESENT AB

05:22:50.517 --> 05:22:52.553
2384. THIS BILL PROVIDES A

05:22:52.619 --> 05:22:54.354
PATHWAY FOR INDIVIDUALS TO SEEK

05:22:54.421 --> 05:22:57.191
A COURT ORDER SEALING OF THEIR

05:22:57.257 --> 05:22:58.325
CRIMINAL RECORD, PROVIDED THAT

05:22:58.392 --> 05:23:00.828
THEY SATISFY CLEARLY DEFINED

05:23:00.894 --> 05:23:02.996
ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS. UNDER

05:23:03.063 --> 05:23:04.598
CURRENT LAW, CONVICTIONS OTHER

05:23:04.665 --> 05:23:06.266
THAN THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN

05:23:06.333 --> 05:23:08.435
VACATED ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR

05:23:08.502 --> 05:23:10.571
SEALING ONLY EXPUNGEMENT. WHEN

05:23:10.637 --> 05:23:12.372
EXPUNGEMENT IS GRANTED, THE

05:23:12.439 --> 05:23:14.842
GUILTY PLEA IS WITHDRAWN, THE

05:23:14.908 --> 05:23:16.343
CASE IS DISMISSED AND THE

05:23:16.410 --> 05:23:17.411
INDIVIDUAL MOVES FORWARD

05:23:17.478 --> 05:23:18.545
WITHOUT A CONVICTION.

05:23:18.612 --> 05:23:21.048
CONVICTION ON RECORD IN

05:23:21.115 --> 05:23:22.349
CALIFORNIA BEFORE THE RISE OF

05:23:22.416 --> 05:23:24.251
THE DIGITAL ERA, AN EXPUNGEMENT

05:23:24.318 --> 05:23:25.686
CARRIED NEARLY THE SAME

05:23:25.753 --> 05:23:27.121
PRACTICAL WEIGHT AS SEALING A

05:23:27.187 --> 05:23:28.322
RECORD, BUT THAT IS NO LONGER

05:23:28.388 --> 05:23:30.724
THE CASE. EXPUNGEMENT ALONE IS

05:23:30.791 --> 05:23:33.227
NO LONGER ENOUGH. THIRD PARTY

05:23:33.293 --> 05:23:34.995
DATA BROKERS, COMMERCIAL

05:23:35.062 --> 05:23:36.263
BACKGROUND SCREENING SERVICES

05:23:36.330 --> 05:23:38.632
AND ONLINE ARCHIVES CONTINUE TO

05:23:38.699 --> 05:23:40.400
SPREAD CRIMINAL HISTORY RECORDS

05:23:40.467 --> 05:23:42.970
WITHOUT LIMIT OR END WITH A

05:23:43.036 --> 05:23:45.139
BASIC ONLINE SEARCH. CHARGES

05:23:45.205 --> 05:23:47.274
FROM DECADES AGO CAN APPEAR IN

05:23:47.341 --> 05:23:48.475
MOMENTS, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER

05:23:48.542 --> 05:23:50.844
A RECORD HAS BEEN EXPUNGED.

05:23:50.911 --> 05:23:52.679
SEALING FILLS THIS VOID THAT

05:23:52.746 --> 05:23:53.747
EXPUNGEMENT LEAVES BEHIND,

05:23:53.814 --> 05:23:55.215
BRIDGING THE DISTANCE BETWEEN

05:23:55.282 --> 05:23:56.984
WHAT THE LAW OFFERS AND WHAT

05:23:57.050 --> 05:23:59.553
PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, GIVING

05:23:59.620 --> 05:24:00.654
INDIVIDUALS THE OPPORTUNITY TO

05:24:00.721 --> 05:24:01.889
SEAL THEIR RECORDS ALLOWS THEM

05:24:01.955 --> 05:24:03.824
TO REENTER SOCIETY WITH THEIR

05:24:03.891 --> 05:24:06.026
CIVIL RIGHTS, PUBLIC BENEFITS,

05:24:06.093 --> 05:24:07.828
AND EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES

05:24:07.895 --> 05:24:09.630
RESTORED. WITHOUT IT, THEY

05:24:09.696 --> 05:24:11.031
REMAIN LOCKED OUT OF STABLE

05:24:11.098 --> 05:24:12.966
HOUSING, CONSTRAINED IN WHERE

05:24:13.033 --> 05:24:14.334
THEY CAN GO AND WHAT THEY CAN

05:24:14.401 --> 05:24:16.236
DO. CUT OFF FROM THE CIVIC AND

05:24:16.303 --> 05:24:17.538
ECONOMIC LIFE THAT OTHERS MOVE

05:24:17.604 --> 05:24:19.940
THROUGH FREELY. SPECIFICALLY,

05:24:20.007 --> 05:24:22.609
THIS BILL OPENS THE DOOR FOR

05:24:22.676 --> 05:24:23.677
INDIVIDUALS CONVICTED OF

05:24:23.744 --> 05:24:25.512
ELIGIBLE OFFENSES TO BRING A

05:24:25.579 --> 05:24:26.947
PETITION BEFORE THE COURTS

05:24:27.014 --> 05:24:28.315
SEEKING SEALING AND DESTRUCTION

05:24:28.382 --> 05:24:30.484
OF THE RECORD, SO LONG AS AT

05:24:30.551 --> 05:24:32.052
LEAST FOUR YEARS HAVE ELAPSED

05:24:32.119 --> 05:24:33.420
SINCE THE DATE OF THEIR ARREST,

05:24:33.487 --> 05:24:35.489
OR SINCE THE COMPLETION OF ANY

05:24:35.556 --> 05:24:38.058
SENTENCE. PROBATION, MANDATORY

05:24:38.125 --> 05:24:39.126
SUPERVISION, POST-RELEASE

05:24:39.193 --> 05:24:41.328
COMMUNITY SUPERVISION OR PAROLE

05:24:41.395 --> 05:24:42.896
TIED TO THAT RECORD, WHICHEVER

05:24:42.963 --> 05:24:45.265
IS LATER, AND THE PERSON HAS

05:24:45.332 --> 05:24:46.333
REMAINED FREE OF NEW

05:24:46.400 --> 05:24:47.401
CONVICTIONS THROUGHOUT THIS

05:24:47.467 --> 05:24:49.636
PERIOD. NO PERSON SHOULD CARRY

05:24:49.703 --> 05:24:51.805
A LIFETIME OF OBSTACLES TO JOBS,

05:24:51.872 --> 05:24:53.507
TO HOUSING AND FULL

05:24:53.574 --> 05:24:54.308
PARTICIPATION IN THEIR

05:24:54.374 --> 05:24:55.709
COMMUNITY SIMPLY BECAUSE OF

05:24:55.776 --> 05:24:58.545
PAST CIRCUMSTANCES. IT IS

05:24:58.612 --> 05:24:59.546
ESSENTIAL TO UNDERSTAND THAT

05:24:59.613 --> 05:25:01.815
THIS BILL DOES NOT CREATE ANY

05:25:01.882 --> 05:25:03.951
AUTOMATIC PROCESS. NO PETITION

05:25:04.017 --> 05:25:05.786
IS TRIGGERED AND NO RECORD IS

05:25:05.853 --> 05:25:08.322
SEALED WITHOUT ACTION. WHAT IT

05:25:08.388 --> 05:25:10.123
DOES IS EXTEND TO THE

05:25:10.190 --> 05:25:11.225
INDIVIDUAL THE RIGHT TO BRING

05:25:11.291 --> 05:25:12.593
THEIR CASE TO A COURT. FROM

05:25:12.659 --> 05:25:14.394
THERE, THE COURT RETAINS FULL

05:25:14.461 --> 05:25:16.230
AUTHORITY TO GRANT RELIEF ONLY

05:25:16.296 --> 05:25:17.264
WHERE IT DETERMINES THAT DOING

05:25:17.331 --> 05:25:18.732
SO SERVES THE INTEREST OF

05:25:18.799 --> 05:25:20.500
JUSTICE. THE BURDEN OF PROOF

05:25:20.567 --> 05:25:21.935
RESTS ENTIRELY WITH THE

05:25:22.002 --> 05:25:23.103
PETITIONER TO DEMONSTRATE WHY

05:25:23.170 --> 05:25:25.539
THAT RELIEF IS WARRANTED, A

05:25:25.606 --> 05:25:27.007
CRIMINAL CONVICTION STRIPS AWAY

05:25:27.074 --> 05:25:28.375
CIVIL RIGHTS, CUTS OFF ACCESS

05:25:28.442 --> 05:25:30.611
TO PUBLIC BENEFITS, FORECLOSES

05:25:30.677 --> 05:25:32.079
EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES,

05:25:32.145 --> 05:25:33.447
LIMITS HOUSING OPTIONS AND

05:25:33.513 --> 05:25:34.615
REMOVES THE ABILITY TO LIVE AND

05:25:34.681 --> 05:25:36.383
WORK WITHOUT CONSTANT

05:25:36.450 --> 05:25:37.818
RESTRICTION. THESE ONGOING

05:25:37.885 --> 05:25:39.319
PENALTIES AND RESTRICTIONS DO

05:25:39.386 --> 05:25:40.687
NOT STOP AT THE INDIVIDUAL.

05:25:40.754 --> 05:25:42.356
THEIR EFFECTS RIPPLE OUTWARD TO

05:25:42.422 --> 05:25:44.258
THE BROADER COMMUNITY WHEN

05:25:44.324 --> 05:25:45.792
PEOPLE ARE CUT OFF FROM

05:25:45.859 --> 05:25:47.160
EMPLOYMENT, FROM EDUCATION,

05:25:47.227 --> 05:25:49.363
FROM FAMILY STABILITY AND CIVIC

05:25:49.429 --> 05:25:50.430
LIFE, THE WELL-BEING OF THE

05:25:50.497 --> 05:25:52.699
ENTIRE COMMUNITY SUFFERS. THE

05:25:52.766 --> 05:25:54.401
MOST EFFECTIVE TOOL WE HAVE TO

05:25:54.468 --> 05:25:55.836
COMBAT THAT CYCLE OF EXCLUSION

05:25:55.903 --> 05:25:58.071
IS TO SEAL THOSE RECORDS. I'M

05:25:58.138 --> 05:25:59.206
VERY GRATEFUL TO BE JOINED

05:25:59.273 --> 05:26:01.074
TODAY BY ED LITTLE ON BEHALF OF

05:26:01.141 --> 05:26:02.276
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND

05:26:02.342 --> 05:26:03.477
JUSTICE, WHO WILL TESTIFY IN

05:26:03.543 --> 05:26:04.978
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. I SHOULD

05:26:05.045 --> 05:26:06.647
ALSO NOTE MY BROTHER, JUDGE DAN

05:26:06.713 --> 05:26:08.048
LOWENTHAL, WAS HERE TO TESTIFY

05:26:08.115 --> 05:26:09.283
AS WELL. BUT HE'S IN THE MIDDLE

05:26:09.349 --> 05:26:11.051
OF A MURDER TRIAL AND

05:26:11.118 --> 05:26:12.719
UNFORTUNATELY COULDN'T MAKE IT.

05:26:12.786 --> 05:26:17.958
MR. LITTLE, WELCOME. THANK YOU.

05:26:18.025 --> 05:26:19.927
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR. MY NAME

05:26:19.993 --> 05:26:21.695
IS ED LITTLE AND I'M A

05:26:21.762 --> 05:26:22.896
GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS MANAGER WITH

05:26:22.963 --> 05:26:23.897
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND

05:26:23.964 --> 05:26:26.500
JUSTICE AND PROUD CO-SPONSOR OF

05:26:26.566 --> 05:26:29.369
2384, A RECORD, NO MATTER HOW

05:26:29.436 --> 05:26:30.704
MINOR OR HOW MUCH TIME HAS

05:26:30.771 --> 05:26:32.606
PASSED, CAN TRIGGER A WEB OF

05:26:32.673 --> 05:26:35.108
LEGAL RESTRICTIONS, REDUCE

05:26:35.175 --> 05:26:36.910
PROSPECTS AND ECONOMIC

05:26:36.977 --> 05:26:38.979
INSTABILITY. WHILE CALIFORNIA'S

05:26:39.046 --> 05:26:40.080
EXPUNGEMENT LAWS CRITICALLY

05:26:40.147 --> 05:26:41.848
REMOVE RECORDS FROM PUBLIC

05:26:41.915 --> 05:26:43.417
ACCESS THAT CAN STILL BE VIEWED

05:26:43.483 --> 05:26:45.118
AND ACT AS BARRIERS TO CERTAIN

05:26:45.185 --> 05:26:46.586
LICENSING AND CAREER

05:26:46.653 --> 05:26:47.587
OPPORTUNITIES, THIS BILL

05:26:47.654 --> 05:26:49.089
CREATES A NEW PATHWAY FOR

05:26:49.156 --> 05:26:50.490
PEOPLE WITH ELIGIBLE PAST

05:26:50.557 --> 05:26:52.326
ARRESTS AND LOW LEVEL

05:26:52.392 --> 05:26:53.327
CONVICTIONS TO PETITION THE

05:26:53.393 --> 05:26:54.828
COURT TO SEAL THEIR RECORDS,

05:26:54.895 --> 05:26:56.997
OFFERING A TRUE AND COMPLETE

05:26:57.064 --> 05:26:58.999
CLEAN SLATE. THIS STRONGER,

05:26:59.066 --> 05:27:00.634
MORE COMPREHENSIVE SEALING

05:27:00.701 --> 05:27:02.202
REMEDY WILL ONLY BE AVAILABLE

05:27:02.269 --> 05:27:03.904
FOR NON-CONVICTION ARRESTS AND

05:27:03.971 --> 05:27:06.006
LOW LEVEL CONVICTIONS AFTER A

05:27:06.073 --> 05:27:07.774
FOUR YEAR CRIME FREE WAITING

05:27:07.841 --> 05:27:10.677
PERIOD. RELIEF WILL ALSO NOT BE

05:27:10.744 --> 05:27:12.813
GRANTED IN. EACH PETITION WILL

05:27:12.879 --> 05:27:15.716
BE JUDGED ON A CASE BY CASE

05:27:15.782 --> 05:27:17.851
BASIS. STATES AROUND THE

05:27:17.918 --> 05:27:19.353
COUNTRY LIKE VERMONT,

05:27:19.419 --> 05:27:20.454
CONNECTICUT AND NEW YORK, HAVE

05:27:20.520 --> 05:27:21.855
TAKEN A SIMILAR APPROACH TO

05:27:21.922 --> 05:27:24.758
RECORD RELIEF, A CHANCE AT TRUE

05:27:24.825 --> 05:27:26.493
CLEAN SLATE FOR A LIMITED

05:27:26.560 --> 05:27:27.894
CATEGORY OF RECORDS AT THE

05:27:27.961 --> 05:27:29.262
DISCRETION OF A JUDGE, WE

05:27:29.329 --> 05:27:30.864
BELIEVE STRIKES THE APPROPRIATE

05:27:30.931 --> 05:27:32.632
BALANCE BY CREATING A PATHWAY

05:27:32.699 --> 05:27:34.468
FOR RECORD SEALING. THIS BILL

05:27:34.534 --> 05:27:35.902
PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY FOR

05:27:35.969 --> 05:27:37.304
PEOPLE WITH PAST LOW LEVEL

05:27:37.371 --> 05:27:40.173
RECORDS TO TRULY AND FULLY MOVE

05:27:40.240 --> 05:27:42.342
BEYOND THE LIFELONG

05:27:42.409 --> 05:27:43.176
DISENFRANCHISEMENT THAT COMES

05:27:43.243 --> 05:27:44.878
WITH A CRIMINAL RECORD. FOR

05:27:44.945 --> 05:27:46.713
THESE REASONS, WE ASK FOR YOUR

05:27:46.780 --> 05:27:49.549
VOTE ON AB 2384. THANK YOU.

05:27:49.616 --> 05:27:51.885
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW IS THE

05:27:51.952 --> 05:27:53.086
TIME FOR ANYBODY THAT WOULD

05:27:53.153 --> 05:27:54.821
LIKE TO SUPPORT THE BILL TO

05:27:54.888 --> 05:27:55.956
PLEASE COME FORWARD. STATE YOUR

05:27:56.023 --> 05:27:58.859
NAME FOR THE RECORD. MALCOLM

05:27:58.925 --> 05:27:59.993
ROOKS, ON BEHALF OF

05:28:00.060 --> 05:28:00.827
CALIFORNIANS FOR SAFETY AND

05:28:00.894 --> 05:28:07.534
JUSTICE AND SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

05:28:07.601 --> 05:28:08.969
LIZ GUTIERREZ, SMART JUSTICE

05:28:09.036 --> 05:28:13.340
CALIFORNIA AND PROUD SUPPORT.

05:28:13.407 --> 05:28:14.741
MARCO GEORGE ON BEHALF OF

05:28:14.808 --> 05:28:16.543
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS

05:28:16.610 --> 05:28:18.845
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. THANK

05:28:18.912 --> 05:28:20.781
YOU VERY MUCH, ERIC HENDERSON,

05:28:20.847 --> 05:28:22.115
ON BEHALF OF THE ELLA BAKER

05:28:22.182 --> 05:28:23.183
CENTER FOR HUMAN RIGHTS AND

05:28:23.250 --> 05:28:25.552
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. AUDREY

05:28:25.619 --> 05:28:26.620
RODRIGUEZ REGISTERING PROUD

05:28:26.686 --> 05:28:28.455
SUPPORT FOR ACLU, CAL ACTION

05:28:28.522 --> 05:28:29.489
AND SAN FRANCISCO PUBLIC

05:28:29.556 --> 05:28:32.759
DEFENDER'S OFFICE. THANK YOU,

05:28:32.826 --> 05:28:34.194
SUE KIM, WITH UNCOMMON LAW AND

05:28:34.261 --> 05:28:35.462
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

05:28:35.529 --> 05:28:38.865
VERY MUCH. HOW ABOUT TESTIMONY

05:28:38.932 --> 05:28:41.802
IN OPPOSITION? ANYBODY WANT TO

05:28:41.868 --> 05:28:43.870
TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION? SEEING

05:28:43.937 --> 05:28:46.206
NO ONE MOVING, HOW ABOUT JUST A

05:28:46.273 --> 05:28:49.309
ME TOO IN OPPOSITION? I DIDN'T

05:28:49.376 --> 05:28:50.977
SEE ANY REGISTERED. JUST WANT

05:28:51.044 --> 05:28:53.246
TO CHECK. WELL, CONGRATULATIONS.

05:28:53.313 --> 05:28:54.714
THERE'S NO OPPOSITION. THE NEXT

05:28:54.781 --> 05:28:56.216
STEP IS TO BRING IT BACK TO

05:28:56.283 --> 05:28:57.617
COMMITTEE. AND IT'S ME RIGHT

05:28:57.684 --> 05:29:01.188
NOW. SO LET ME JUST SAY THAT I

05:29:01.254 --> 05:29:04.424
REALLY LIKE THIS BILL. AND THE

05:29:04.491 --> 05:29:07.027
EASIER WE CAN MAKE THE PROCESS,

05:29:07.094 --> 05:29:08.962
THE BETTER IT'S GOING TO BE.

05:29:09.029 --> 05:29:10.230
IT'S REALLY DIFFERENT.

05:29:10.297 --> 05:29:11.665
DIFFICULT TO GET AN EXPUNGEMENT

05:29:11.731 --> 05:29:13.300
RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, YOU ALMOST

05:29:13.366 --> 05:29:14.534
HAVE TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY

05:29:14.601 --> 05:29:16.670
BECAUSE THE PROCESS IS NOT EASY.

05:29:16.736 --> 05:29:19.239
SO THE MORE THAT WE CAN

05:29:19.306 --> 05:29:20.674
STREAMLINE THAT, THE BETTER,

05:29:20.740 --> 05:29:22.876
BETTER WILL BE. SO WITH THAT,

05:29:22.943 --> 05:29:24.211
I'LL LET YOU CONCLUDE

05:29:24.277 --> 05:29:25.612
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE,

05:29:25.679 --> 05:29:26.680
SENATOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

05:29:26.746 --> 05:29:27.814
SO MUCH. THE CHAIR HAS A

05:29:27.881 --> 05:29:29.616
RECOMMENDATION. SO WHEN WE GET

05:29:29.683 --> 05:29:31.051
A QUORUM, WE'LL WE'LL TAKE UP A

05:29:31.118 --> 05:29:33.587
VOTE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK

05:29:33.653 --> 05:29:35.689
YOU FOR BEING HERE. OKAY. WE'RE

05:29:35.755 --> 05:29:40.393
GOING TO MOVE ON TO ASSEMBLY

05:29:40.460 --> 05:29:53.773
MEMBER NGUYEN. WELCOME. YOU

05:29:53.840 --> 05:29:55.942
HAVE ONE BILL THAT IS ON

05:29:56.009 --> 05:29:57.077
CONSENT. WE HAVE PASSED CONSENT

05:29:57.144 --> 05:29:59.212
SO THAT ONE IS OUT. AND

05:29:59.279 --> 05:30:00.614
CONGRESSMAN, BEFORE I FORGET, I

05:30:00.680 --> 05:30:03.483
WANTED TO SAY WELCOME TO THE

05:30:03.550 --> 05:30:04.818
CALIFORNIA SENATE AND IT'S GOOD

05:30:04.885 --> 05:30:08.421
TO SEE YOU. IT'S GOOD TO SEE.

05:30:08.488 --> 05:30:10.390
YEAH, YEAH. WELCOME. ANYTIME.

05:30:10.457 --> 05:30:15.495
THANK YOU. SO WE'RE WE'RE ON A

05:30:15.562 --> 05:30:18.365
B 2727. YES. THANK YOU, MADAM

05:30:18.431 --> 05:30:20.600
CHAIR. I'M HERE TO PRESENT AB

05:30:20.667 --> 05:30:21.701
2727, A BILL THAT HELPS

05:30:21.768 --> 05:30:22.936
PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY OF

05:30:23.003 --> 05:30:25.906
CALIFORNIA'S ELDERLY PAROLE

05:30:25.972 --> 05:30:27.073
PROGRAM. THE PROGRAM SERVES AS

05:30:27.140 --> 05:30:28.108
AN IMPORTANT PURPOSE, BUT WHEN

05:30:28.175 --> 05:30:30.143
IT COMES TO THE MOST SERIOUS

05:30:30.210 --> 05:30:32.279
VIOLENT SEXUAL OFFENSES, WE

05:30:32.345 --> 05:30:33.813
HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE

05:30:33.880 --> 05:30:35.582
SURE THE LAW REFLECTS THE

05:30:35.649 --> 05:30:38.385
SEVERITY OF THOSE CRIMES. CASES

05:30:38.451 --> 05:30:40.253
LIKE DAVID FUNSTEN RAISE

05:30:40.320 --> 05:30:41.621
SERIOUS QUESTIONS FROM WHETHER

05:30:41.688 --> 05:30:43.023
THE CURRENT LAW STRIKES THE

05:30:43.089 --> 05:30:44.658
RIGHT BALANCE FOR VICTIMS WITH

05:30:44.724 --> 05:30:46.293
THEIR FAMILIES. THE IMPACT OF

05:30:46.359 --> 05:30:47.861
THESE CRIMES DOESN'T END WITH

05:30:47.928 --> 05:30:50.297
THE CONVICTION IT LASTS A

05:30:50.363 --> 05:30:52.132
LIFETIME. THIS BILL FOCUSES ON

05:30:52.199 --> 05:30:53.567
INDIVIDUALS SERVING LIFE

05:30:53.633 --> 05:30:55.235
SENTENCES FOR SOME OF THE MOST

05:30:55.302 --> 05:30:57.103
SERIOUS VIOLENT SEXUAL OFFENSES,

05:30:57.170 --> 05:30:58.872
INCLUDING AGGRAVATED SEXUAL

05:30:58.939 --> 05:31:01.408
ASSAULT OF A CHILD AND SPECIFIC

05:31:01.474 --> 05:31:03.210
SEXUAL OFFENSES AGAINST

05:31:03.276 --> 05:31:06.479
CHILDREN AGES TEN AND YOUNGER.

05:31:06.546 --> 05:31:07.981
CURRENT LAW ALLOWS CERTAIN

05:31:08.048 --> 05:31:09.683
OFFENDERS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR

05:31:09.749 --> 05:31:11.985
PAROLE AT AGE 50 AFTER SERVING

05:31:12.052 --> 05:31:15.889
20 YEARS. AB 2727 RAISES THE

05:31:15.956 --> 05:31:18.391
THRESHOLD TO AGE 65 AND AT

05:31:18.458 --> 05:31:21.628
LEAST 25 YEARS SERVE. THIS BILL

05:31:21.695 --> 05:31:23.763
ALSO STRENGTHENS THE REVIEW

05:31:23.830 --> 05:31:25.632
PROCESS BY ENSURING INDIVIDUALS

05:31:25.699 --> 05:31:27.434
SERVING LIFE SENTENCES FOR

05:31:27.500 --> 05:31:28.835
SEXUAL VIOLENCE. SEXUAL

05:31:28.902 --> 05:31:30.770
OFFENSES ARE INCLUDED IN THE

05:31:30.837 --> 05:31:32.105
SCREENING PROCESS BEFORE

05:31:32.172 --> 05:31:33.873
RELEASE AND CAN BE REFERRED TO

05:31:33.940 --> 05:31:35.275
THE DEPARTMENT OF STATE

05:31:35.342 --> 05:31:37.811
HOSPITALS FOR EVALUATION AS

05:31:37.877 --> 05:31:40.347
SEXUALLY VIOLENT PREDATORS WHEN

05:31:40.413 --> 05:31:43.516
APPROPRIATE. PRESERVING THE

05:31:43.583 --> 05:31:45.018
INTEGRITY OF THE ELDERLY PAROLE

05:31:45.085 --> 05:31:46.620
PROGRAM MEANS RECOGNIZING THAT

05:31:46.686 --> 05:31:48.288
THE MOST SERIOUS CRIMES DESERVE

05:31:48.355 --> 05:31:50.423
A GREATER SCRUTINY BEFORE

05:31:50.490 --> 05:31:51.891
SOMEONE IS CONSIDERED FOR

05:31:51.958 --> 05:31:53.693
RELEASE. I BELIEVE THIS BILL

05:31:53.760 --> 05:31:55.462
STRIKES A BALANCE WHILE KEEPING

05:31:55.528 --> 05:31:57.697
PUBLIC SAFETY AND VICTIMS AT

05:31:57.764 --> 05:32:00.200
THE FOREFRONT. MADAM CHAIR, I

05:32:00.267 --> 05:32:02.702
WANT TO ALSO SAY THAT I HAD A

05:32:02.769 --> 05:32:04.904
VICTIM THAT WAS GOING TO

05:32:04.971 --> 05:32:05.972
TESTIFY, A WITNESS THAT WAS

05:32:06.039 --> 05:32:08.842
GOING TO TESTIFY, BUT HAD A

05:32:08.908 --> 05:32:11.244
FAMILY EMERGENCY. AND SO SHE

05:32:11.311 --> 05:32:12.345
SHE COULDN'T BE HERE. AND I

05:32:12.412 --> 05:32:14.214
WISH THAT SHE WAS HERE SO THAT

05:32:14.281 --> 05:32:18.818
SHE CAN SHARE HER STORY AND

05:32:18.885 --> 05:32:21.354
THAT I THINK IT'S REALLY

05:32:21.421 --> 05:32:23.556
IMPORTANT THAT INDIVIDUALS LIKE

05:32:23.623 --> 05:32:26.793
THAT GET TO SHARE SUCH STORIES

05:32:26.860 --> 05:32:28.528
SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT

05:32:28.595 --> 05:32:30.730
THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH. AND SO

05:32:30.797 --> 05:32:32.232
OUR THOUGHTS ARE WITH HER AND

05:32:32.299 --> 05:32:33.933
HER FAMILY, AND WE HOPE THAT

05:32:34.000 --> 05:32:35.802
EVERYTHING IS OKAY. BUT WITH ME

05:32:35.869 --> 05:32:38.138
TODAY TO TESTIFY IS SACRAMENTO

05:32:38.204 --> 05:32:41.241
DISTRICT ATTORNEY TIM HÌ. THANK

05:32:41.308 --> 05:32:46.546
YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

05:32:46.613 --> 05:32:47.747
MAKE SURE THE MIC IS ON. YES,

05:32:47.814 --> 05:32:49.649
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I ALSO

05:32:49.716 --> 05:32:51.318
WANT TO THANK ASSEMBLY MEMBER

05:32:51.384 --> 05:32:53.119
STEPHANIE NGUYEN FOR BRINGING

05:32:53.186 --> 05:32:54.754
FORWARD THIS MEASURE BALANCED

05:32:54.821 --> 05:32:56.756
AND NECESSARY BILL. AT ITS CORE,

05:32:56.823 --> 05:33:00.226
AB 2727 IS ABOUT KEEPING OUR

05:33:00.293 --> 05:33:02.028
COMMUNITY SAFE AND HONORING THE

05:33:02.095 --> 05:33:04.230
PROMISE WE MAKE TO VICTIMS AND

05:33:04.297 --> 05:33:05.632
SURVIVORS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW,

05:33:05.699 --> 05:33:07.434
THOSE PROMISES ARE BEING BROKEN

05:33:07.500 --> 05:33:09.602
WHEN WE PROSECUTE VIOLENT SEX

05:33:09.669 --> 05:33:11.771
SEXUAL OFFENDERS, VICTIMS, THEY

05:33:11.838 --> 05:33:13.873
STEP FORWARD, THEY TESTIFY,

05:33:13.940 --> 05:33:16.409
THEY RELIVE THEIR TRAUMA. THEY

05:33:16.476 --> 05:33:18.278
ENDURE HOURS OF

05:33:18.345 --> 05:33:19.412
CROSS-EXAMINATION DURING THE

05:33:19.479 --> 05:33:21.114
TRIAL. AND WHEN THE SENTENCE IS

05:33:21.181 --> 05:33:24.084
FINALLY HANDED DOWN, THEY TRUST

05:33:24.150 --> 05:33:25.852
THAT THAT SENTENCE MEANS

05:33:25.919 --> 05:33:27.954
SOMETHING. THEY BELIEVE THAT

05:33:28.021 --> 05:33:30.123
THE PERSON WHO HARMED THEM WILL

05:33:30.190 --> 05:33:32.459
REMAIN BEHIND BARS FOR DECADES.

05:33:32.525 --> 05:33:34.561
BUT WHEN THE SENTENCE IS

05:33:34.627 --> 05:33:35.895
PREMATURELY SHORTENED THROUGH

05:33:35.962 --> 05:33:39.132
ELDERLY PAROLE, THAT TRUST IS

05:33:39.199 --> 05:33:40.567
SHATTERED. AND THE DAMAGE IS

05:33:40.633 --> 05:33:43.403
NOT ABSTRACT. IT IS REAL, IT IS

05:33:43.470 --> 05:33:46.005
PERSONAL, IT IS LASTING, AND IT

05:33:46.072 --> 05:33:47.006
UNDERMINES THE CONFIDENCE IN

05:33:47.073 --> 05:33:48.475
THE VERY SYSTEM OF JUSTICE THAT

05:33:48.541 --> 05:33:50.643
WE WORK IN AND THAT WE UPHOLD.

05:33:50.710 --> 05:33:52.045
AND I'VE HEARD DIRECTLY FROM

05:33:52.112 --> 05:33:52.879
VICTIMS WHO BELIEVE THAT THEY

05:33:52.946 --> 05:33:55.148
WERE FINALLY SAFE, ONLY TO

05:33:55.215 --> 05:33:56.983
LEARN THAT THE PERSON WHO HAD

05:33:57.050 --> 05:33:58.184
HARMED THEM AND ASSAULTED THEM

05:33:58.251 --> 05:34:00.053
IS NOW BEING RELEASED YEARS, IF

05:34:00.120 --> 05:34:02.689
NOT DECADES, EARLY. AND THAT IS

05:34:02.756 --> 05:34:03.923
NOT JUSTICE. THERE'S ALSO A

05:34:03.990 --> 05:34:05.425
PUBLIC SAFETY ISSUE HERE. MANY

05:34:05.492 --> 05:34:06.826
OF THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE

05:34:06.893 --> 05:34:08.595
BEING RELEASED HAVE NOT

05:34:08.661 --> 05:34:10.463
COMPLETED PROGRAMS THAT

05:34:10.530 --> 05:34:11.865
MEANINGFULLY REDUCE THE RISK OF

05:34:11.931 --> 05:34:13.400
HARM AND RECIDIVISM. AND IN

05:34:13.466 --> 05:34:15.101
MANY CASES, THOSE PROGRAMS

05:34:15.168 --> 05:34:17.270
SIMPLY DON'T EXIST AT THIS TIME.

05:34:17.337 --> 05:34:20.607
AB 2727 ADDRESSES THAT BY

05:34:20.673 --> 05:34:22.041
RAISING THE ELDERLY PAROLE AGE,

05:34:22.108 --> 05:34:25.245
THE AGE OF 65 AND REQUIRING 25

05:34:25.311 --> 05:34:27.313
YEARS SERVE, IT EXPANDS ALSO,

05:34:27.380 --> 05:34:29.249
THE ELIGIBILITY OF SEXUALLY

05:34:29.315 --> 05:34:31.651
VIOLENT PREDATOR DESIGNATION.

05:34:31.718 --> 05:34:33.153
THE BILL ENSURES THAT THE MOST

05:34:33.219 --> 05:34:34.621
DANGEROUS INDIVIDUALS REMAIN IN

05:34:34.687 --> 05:34:36.256
CUSTODY, AND IT CLOSES THOSE

05:34:36.322 --> 05:34:38.925
GAPS. AND LET ME PROVIDE A VERY

05:34:38.992 --> 05:34:41.394
REAL EXAMPLE. DAVID FUNSTON AND

05:34:41.461 --> 05:34:43.963
GREGORY VOGELSANG. GREGORY

05:34:44.030 --> 05:34:45.732
VOGELSANG IS AN INMATE WHO WAS

05:34:45.799 --> 05:34:48.601
SENTENCED TO 355 YEARS FROM A

05:34:48.668 --> 05:34:50.937
CASE THAT MY OFFICE PROSECUTED.

05:34:51.004 --> 05:34:52.539
HE MOLESTED FIVE LITTLE BOYS

05:34:52.605 --> 05:34:54.407
BETWEEN THE AGES OF FIVE AND

05:34:54.474 --> 05:34:56.543
NINE. HE WAS SENTENCED TO 355

05:34:56.609 --> 05:34:58.645
YEARS AND GOT OUT ESSENTIALLY

05:34:58.711 --> 05:35:02.148
OVER 300 YEARS EARLY. WE WERE

05:35:02.215 --> 05:35:05.151
ABLE TO STOP THAT PAROLE FROM

05:35:05.218 --> 05:35:07.353
HAPPENING. BUT WE NEED A BILL

05:35:07.420 --> 05:35:10.256
LIKE THIS TO MAKE SURE THAT HE

05:35:10.323 --> 05:35:13.092
IS DESIGNATED AS A SEXUALLY

05:35:13.159 --> 05:35:14.761
VIOLENT PREDATOR. THIS BILL IS

05:35:14.828 --> 05:35:15.995
ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY. IT'S

05:35:16.062 --> 05:35:17.363
ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S ABOUT

05:35:17.430 --> 05:35:18.631
KEEPING OUR WORDS TO VICTIMS.

05:35:18.698 --> 05:35:20.233
AND WITH THAT, I WOULD

05:35:20.300 --> 05:35:22.101
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.

05:35:22.168 --> 05:35:23.536
THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU

05:35:23.603 --> 05:35:26.005
VERY MUCH. ANYONE WHO WOULD

05:35:26.072 --> 05:35:32.111
LIKE TO ADD ON. MADAM CHAIR, ON

05:35:32.178 --> 05:35:33.179
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES

05:35:33.246 --> 05:35:34.280
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

05:35:34.347 --> 05:35:35.381
OFFICE AND THE CRIME VICTIMS

05:35:35.448 --> 05:35:38.985
ALLIANCE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

05:35:39.052 --> 05:35:40.353
MADAM CHAIR. I. VÆ FITZPATRICK,

05:35:40.420 --> 05:35:41.387
ON BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

05:35:41.454 --> 05:35:42.755
DISTRICT ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION

05:35:42.822 --> 05:35:43.690
AND THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY

05:35:43.756 --> 05:35:45.091
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND

05:35:45.158 --> 05:35:49.562
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ON BEHALF

05:35:49.629 --> 05:35:50.864
OF THE CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS

05:35:50.930 --> 05:35:51.998
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. THANK

05:35:52.065 --> 05:35:54.801
YOU VERY MUCH, AUDREY. ON

05:35:54.868 --> 05:35:55.935
BEHALF OF THE ORANGE COUNTY

05:35:56.002 --> 05:35:56.870
DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND

05:35:56.936 --> 05:36:01.674
SUPPORT. ON BEHALF OF THE

05:36:01.741 --> 05:36:02.775
CALIFORNIA STATE SHERIFFS

05:36:02.842 --> 05:36:03.843
ASSOCIATION, AS WELL AS THE

05:36:03.910 --> 05:36:04.944
CHIEF PROBATION OFFICERS OF

05:36:05.011 --> 05:36:06.346
CALIFORNIA AND SUPPORT. THANK

05:36:06.412 --> 05:36:09.249
YOU. ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT?

05:36:09.315 --> 05:36:11.351
NOW WE'RE GOING TO TURN TO THE

05:36:11.417 --> 05:36:13.486
OPPOSITION. IF YOU COULD PLEASE

05:36:13.553 --> 05:36:27.534
COME FORWARD. PARDON ME. YES.

05:36:27.600 --> 05:36:31.170
THE FLOOR IS YOURS. GLEN

05:36:31.237 --> 05:36:34.207
BACCHUS ON. GOOD AFTERNOON.

05:36:34.274 --> 05:36:35.508
GLEN BACCHUS, ON BEHALF OF THE

05:36:35.575 --> 05:36:36.609
ELLA BAKER CENTER FOR HUMAN

05:36:36.676 --> 05:36:38.678
RIGHTS, FOR MYSELF AND THE ELLA

05:36:38.745 --> 05:36:40.179
BAKER CENTER, WE HAVE

05:36:40.246 --> 05:36:40.880
TREMENDOUS EMPATHY FOR

05:36:40.947 --> 05:36:42.882
SURVIVORS OF VIOLENCE, AND WE'D

05:36:42.949 --> 05:36:44.517
LIKE TO INVEST IN VICTIM

05:36:44.584 --> 05:36:45.485
SERVICES AND CRIME PREVENTION

05:36:45.552 --> 05:36:47.420
STRATEGIES THAT PREVENT THAT

05:36:47.487 --> 05:36:49.422
VIOLENCE. WE WOULD LIKE TO

05:36:49.489 --> 05:36:50.490
REMIND THE COMMITTEE OF THE

05:36:50.557 --> 05:36:52.158
LARGER CONTEXT THAT WE HAVE AN

05:36:52.225 --> 05:36:53.860
ELDER PAROLE PROCESS IN

05:36:53.927 --> 05:36:55.628
CALIFORNIA AS A RESPONSE TO A

05:36:55.695 --> 05:36:58.197
HUMANITARIAN CRISIS. PEOPLE

05:36:58.264 --> 05:37:00.366
WERE DYING IN OUR PRISONS. THEY

05:37:00.433 --> 05:37:01.534
WERE DYING BECAUSE OUR PRISONS

05:37:01.601 --> 05:37:03.002
WERE GROTESQUELY OVERCROWDED

05:37:03.069 --> 05:37:04.637
DUE TO RUNAWAY SENTENCING,

05:37:04.704 --> 05:37:05.905
INFLATION BY THE LEGISLATURE

05:37:05.972 --> 05:37:07.540
AND GOVERNORS IN THE 80S AND

05:37:07.607 --> 05:37:10.109
90S, THEY DIED EVEN THOUGH THEY

05:37:10.176 --> 05:37:11.244
ENJOYED PROTECTIONS UNDER THE

05:37:11.311 --> 05:37:12.946
US CONSTITUTION, WHICH

05:37:13.012 --> 05:37:15.815
GUARANTEES THAT WHEN THE STATE

05:37:15.882 --> 05:37:16.916
DEPRIVES A PERSON OF THEIR

05:37:16.983 --> 05:37:18.685
LIBERTY, THE STATE ASSUMES THE

05:37:18.751 --> 05:37:19.419
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR

05:37:19.485 --> 05:37:22.322
MEDICAL CARE. CALIFORNIA STATE

05:37:22.388 --> 05:37:23.756
GOVERNMENT FAILED TO MEET THE

05:37:23.823 --> 05:37:25.191
HUMANITARIAN AND CONSTITUTIONAL

05:37:25.258 --> 05:37:27.360
STANDARD, AND WAS FOUND BY THE

05:37:27.427 --> 05:37:28.428
U.S. SUPREME COURT TO HAVE

05:37:28.494 --> 05:37:29.562
VIOLATED PROTECTIONS AGAINST

05:37:29.629 --> 05:37:31.364
CRUEL AND UNUSUAL PUNISHMENT.

05:37:31.431 --> 05:37:33.566
IN 2014, A THREE JUDGE PANEL

05:37:33.633 --> 05:37:34.601
EMPOWERED BY THE U.S. SUPREME

05:37:34.667 --> 05:37:37.070
COURT ORDERED THE STATE TO

05:37:37.136 --> 05:37:38.204
IMPLEMENT AN ELDER PAROLE

05:37:38.271 --> 05:37:40.273
PROCESS FOR PEOPLE 60 YEARS OF

05:37:40.340 --> 05:37:42.475
AGE WHO HAD SERVED A MINIMUM OF

05:37:42.542 --> 05:37:44.644
25 YEARS. THIS BILL SEEKS TO

05:37:44.711 --> 05:37:46.112
VIOLATE THE COURT ORDERED

05:37:46.179 --> 05:37:46.779
REQUIREMENT, SETTING THE

05:37:46.846 --> 05:37:48.648
MINIMUM AGE AT 65 FOR CERTAIN

05:37:48.715 --> 05:37:51.551
OFFENSES, NOT 60. SO IF THE

05:37:51.618 --> 05:37:53.186
BILL IS SIGNED AS DRAFTED, IT

05:37:53.252 --> 05:37:56.122
LIKELY CANNOT GO INTO EFFECT.

05:37:56.189 --> 05:37:57.624
THE CURRENT SYSTEM IS

05:37:57.690 --> 05:37:59.359
INCREDIBLY CONSERVATIVE AND

05:37:59.425 --> 05:38:01.894
SAFE. IT'S VERY HARD TO EARN

05:38:01.961 --> 05:38:02.996
RELEASE UNDER CALIFORNIA'S

05:38:03.062 --> 05:38:05.131
ELDER PAROLE. FOR THOSE WHO ARE

05:38:05.198 --> 05:38:06.599
GRANTED PAROLE AND SUBJECT TO

05:38:06.666 --> 05:38:07.667
CONDITIONS, THEY ARE SUBJECT TO

05:38:07.734 --> 05:38:09.002
CURFEWS, TIME AND PLACE

05:38:09.068 --> 05:38:10.203
RESTRICTIONS, POLYGRAPH TESTS

05:38:10.269 --> 05:38:13.106
AND MORE. THIS VERY TIGHT

05:38:13.172 --> 05:38:14.907
PROCESS OF REVIEW OF

05:38:14.974 --> 05:38:16.175
SUPERVISION, AND THE FACT THAT

05:38:16.242 --> 05:38:17.310
OLD PEOPLE DON'T COMMIT CRIMES

05:38:17.377 --> 05:38:19.946
VERY MUCH, MAY EXPLAIN WHY THE

05:38:20.013 --> 05:38:21.347
OFFENSE RATE AGAINST ANOTHER

05:38:21.414 --> 05:38:25.618
PERSON IS LESS THAN 1%, LESS

05:38:25.685 --> 05:38:30.023
THAN 1%, APPROXIMATELY 0.6%

05:38:30.089 --> 05:38:31.491
COMPARABLE TO THE GENERAL

05:38:31.557 --> 05:38:34.994
PUBLIC. THE BOARD IS DOING A

05:38:35.061 --> 05:38:36.863
GOOD JOB OF PROTECTING PUBLIC

05:38:36.929 --> 05:38:38.331
SAFETY. THE LEGISLATURE IS WELL

05:38:38.398 --> 05:38:39.699
ADVISED TO LET THEM DO THEIR

05:38:39.766 --> 05:38:42.235
JOB. ELDER PAROLE IS A SAFETY

05:38:42.301 --> 05:38:43.536
VALVE TO ADDRESS HUMANITARIAN

05:38:43.603 --> 05:38:45.071
AND CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES.

05:38:45.138 --> 05:38:50.943
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:38:51.010 --> 05:38:52.378
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND

05:38:52.445 --> 05:38:53.479
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS SUE KIM,

05:38:53.546 --> 05:38:55.148
AND I'M A POLICY DIRECTOR AT

05:38:55.214 --> 05:38:56.616
UNCOMMON LAW, WHERE FOR OVER 20

05:38:56.683 --> 05:38:57.750
YEARS WE HAVE REPRESENTED

05:38:57.817 --> 05:38:58.851
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE IN

05:38:58.918 --> 05:39:00.620
CALIFORNIA PAROLE HEARINGS.

05:39:00.687 --> 05:39:02.021
THIS BILL IS BASED ON THE FALSE

05:39:02.088 --> 05:39:03.623
NOTION THAT ELDERLY PAROLE IS

05:39:03.690 --> 05:39:05.758
TOO PERMISSIVE OR RISKY. BUT IN

05:39:05.825 --> 05:39:07.160
REALITY, OUR ELDERLY PAROLE

05:39:07.226 --> 05:39:08.528
PROGRAM IS ONE OF THE SAFEST

05:39:08.594 --> 05:39:09.962
RELEASE PROGRAMS IN THE WHOLE

05:39:10.029 --> 05:39:11.764
COUNTRY, WITH A RECIDIVISM RATE

05:39:11.831 --> 05:39:14.600
OF UNDER 2% AND JUST 0.6% FOR

05:39:14.667 --> 05:39:16.269
FELONIES AGAINST A PERSON.

05:39:16.335 --> 05:39:17.570
THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A

05:39:17.637 --> 05:39:18.705
DOCUMENTED SEXUAL RE-OFFENSE

05:39:18.771 --> 05:39:20.073
AMONG PEOPLE RELEASED FROM THIS

05:39:20.139 --> 05:39:22.241
PROGRAM. THE PUBLIC SAFETY

05:39:22.308 --> 05:39:24.043
OUTCOMES ARE EXCEPTIONAL BY ALL

05:39:24.110 --> 05:39:25.812
MEASURES, AND THIS IS BY DESIGN.

05:39:25.878 --> 05:39:27.013
THOSE ELIGIBLE ARE THOSE LEAST

05:39:27.080 --> 05:39:28.748
LIKELY TO REOFFEND, ELDERS WHO

05:39:28.815 --> 05:39:29.982
HAVE SERVED DECADES, AND THEY

05:39:30.049 --> 05:39:31.117
MUST STILL GO THROUGH ONE OF

05:39:31.184 --> 05:39:32.351
THE TOUGHEST PAROLE EVALUATIONS

05:39:32.418 --> 05:39:34.053
IN THE COUNTRY, INCLUDING

05:39:34.120 --> 05:39:35.488
FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGICAL

05:39:35.555 --> 05:39:36.956
EVALUATIONS, SPECIALIZED SEX

05:39:37.023 --> 05:39:38.791
OFFENSE RISK ASSESSMENTS WHEN

05:39:38.858 --> 05:39:39.859
APPLICABLE. AND IT'S WORTH

05:39:39.926 --> 05:39:41.060
NOTING THAT THESE ARE THE EXACT

05:39:41.127 --> 05:39:42.628
SAME ASSESSMENTS USED IN THE

05:39:42.695 --> 05:39:45.231
SVP EVALUATION AND EXTENSIVE

05:39:45.298 --> 05:39:46.799
PAROLE HEARING LEGAL REVIEW

05:39:46.866 --> 05:39:47.934
REVIEW BY THE GOVERNOR, A FULL

05:39:48.000 --> 05:39:49.736
BOARD REVIEW, AND EVEN A

05:39:49.802 --> 05:39:51.304
REHEARING IF NECESSARY, AND

05:39:51.370 --> 05:39:52.839
INTENSIVE SUPERVISION IF

05:39:52.905 --> 05:39:54.440
RELEASED. FOR PEOPLE WITH SEX

05:39:54.507 --> 05:39:55.575
OFFENSES. THEY ARE MONITORED ON

05:39:55.641 --> 05:39:57.510
THE CONTAINER MODEL. IN THE

05:39:57.577 --> 05:39:58.845
CONTAINMENT MODEL MENTIONED BY

05:39:58.911 --> 05:40:00.346
ASSEMBLY MEMBER PATTERSON AS

05:40:00.413 --> 05:40:02.115
VERY EFFECTIVE, A PERSON IS

05:40:02.181 --> 05:40:02.982
ONLY RELEASED WHEN IT'S CLEAR

05:40:03.049 --> 05:40:05.051
THEY NO LONGER POSE A RISK, AND

05:40:05.118 --> 05:40:06.786
ONLY ABOUT 1 IN 10 IN THIS

05:40:06.853 --> 05:40:07.887
PROCESS IS ACTUALLY GRANTED

05:40:07.954 --> 05:40:09.355
PAROLE. ON AVERAGE, IT WOULD

05:40:09.422 --> 05:40:11.190
TAKE THEM SIX HEARINGS OVER 10

05:40:11.257 --> 05:40:13.326
TO 20 YEARS TO BE GRANTED.

05:40:13.392 --> 05:40:14.460
PAROLE IS NOT RELEASED. JUST

05:40:14.527 --> 05:40:15.628
GIVE SOMEONE A CHANCE TO START

05:40:15.695 --> 05:40:18.064
ON THAT LONG JOURNEY. THE

05:40:18.131 --> 05:40:19.132
AVERAGE AGE OF DEATH IN OUR

05:40:19.198 --> 05:40:21.234
PRISONS IS 64. SO WHEN WE

05:40:21.300 --> 05:40:23.469
PAROLE ELIGIBILITY TO 65, WE

05:40:23.536 --> 05:40:24.837
ASK MORE PEOPLE TO DIE IN

05:40:24.904 --> 05:40:25.872
PRISONS. WHEN OUR PRISONS

05:40:25.938 --> 05:40:27.406
ALREADY FUNCTION AS THE STATE'S

05:40:27.473 --> 05:40:28.808
MOST EXPENSIVE NURSING HOMES,

05:40:28.875 --> 05:40:30.243
WE SHOULD NOT BE USING PRISONS

05:40:30.309 --> 05:40:31.811
AS AN END OF LIFE FACILITY,

05:40:31.878 --> 05:40:32.912
ESPECIALLY FOR THE PEOPLE LEAST

05:40:32.979 --> 05:40:34.580
LIKELY TO REOFFEND IN

05:40:34.647 --> 05:40:35.948
CALIFORNIA SIMPLY CAN'T AFFORD

05:40:36.015 --> 05:40:37.884
IT. THE LEGISLATURE HAS

05:40:37.950 --> 05:40:38.684
ESTIMATED THAT DELAYING PAROLE

05:40:38.751 --> 05:40:41.754
FOR 100 PEOPLE FOR A YEAR COSTS

05:40:41.821 --> 05:40:43.689
$30 MILLION. CDC REPORTS THAT

05:40:43.756 --> 05:40:45.324
HEALTH CARE COSTS APPROACH HALF

05:40:45.391 --> 05:40:47.160
$1 MILLION PER PERSON, PER YEAR.

05:40:47.226 --> 05:40:48.561
FOR SOME OF THE OLDEST AND

05:40:48.628 --> 05:40:50.029
SICKEST IN PRISON, THESE ARE

05:40:50.096 --> 05:40:51.130
TAXPAYER DOLLARS THAT COULD

05:40:51.197 --> 05:40:52.398
SUPPORT UNDERFUNDED SURVIVOR

05:40:52.465 --> 05:40:54.400
AND VICTIM SERVICES AND MUCH

05:40:54.467 --> 05:40:55.768
NEEDED SEX OFFENDER TREATMENT

05:40:55.835 --> 05:40:57.570
PROGRAMS IN PRISON AND IN OUR

05:40:57.637 --> 05:40:58.671
COMMUNITIES. IF WE'RE SERIOUS

05:40:58.738 --> 05:41:00.106
ABOUT SAFETY, LET'S FUND THE

05:41:00.173 --> 05:41:01.541
PROGRAMS THAT ACTUALLY MAKE A

05:41:01.607 --> 05:41:02.842
DIFFERENCE. THIS LEGISLATURE

05:41:02.909 --> 05:41:04.644
MUST BE GUIDED BY FACTS, AND WE

05:41:04.710 --> 05:41:05.812
SHOULD NOT BE WASTING HUNDREDS

05:41:05.878 --> 05:41:07.680
OF MILLIONS TO SOLVE A PUBLIC

05:41:07.747 --> 05:41:09.081
SAFETY PROBLEM. THE EVIDENCE

05:41:09.148 --> 05:41:10.516
SHOWS, SIMPLY DOES NOT EXIST.

05:41:10.583 --> 05:41:12.418
WE RESPECTFULLY URGE A NO VOTE,

05:41:12.485 --> 05:41:13.486
AND I'M AVAILABLE TO ANSWER

05:41:13.553 --> 05:41:14.520
QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PAROLE

05:41:14.587 --> 05:41:15.888
HEARING PROCESS. THANK YOU.

05:41:15.955 --> 05:41:18.457
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NOW IS THE

05:41:18.524 --> 05:41:21.394
OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ON IN

05:41:21.460 --> 05:41:23.596
OPPOSITION. AUBRY RODRIGUEZ

05:41:23.663 --> 05:41:24.997
REGISTERING OPPOSITION FOR ACLU

05:41:25.064 --> 05:41:26.465
CAL ACTION IN SAN FRANCISCO

05:41:26.532 --> 05:41:28.534
PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE. THANK

05:41:28.601 --> 05:41:30.403
YOU. REVEREND MCCULLOUGH, ON

05:41:30.469 --> 05:41:31.804
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

05:41:31.871 --> 05:41:33.105
COALITION FOR WOMEN, PRISONERS

05:41:33.172 --> 05:41:34.740
AND STRONG OPPOSITION. THANK

05:41:34.807 --> 05:41:40.847
YOU. MARCO GEORGE, ON BEHALF OF

05:41:40.913 --> 05:41:43.216
THE CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS

05:41:43.282 --> 05:41:44.784
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION.

05:41:44.851 --> 05:41:49.121
THANK YOU. LUIS GUTIERREZ,

05:41:49.188 --> 05:41:50.890
SMART JUSTICE, CALIFORNIA IN

05:41:50.957 --> 05:41:53.726
OPPOSITION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:41:53.793 --> 05:41:55.161
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN

05:41:55.228 --> 05:41:56.929
OPPOSITION SEEING NO FURTHER?

05:41:56.996 --> 05:41:58.397
BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE

05:41:58.464 --> 05:41:59.899
FOR QUESTIONS. COMMENTS.

05:41:59.966 --> 05:42:03.903
CONCERNS. SENATOR CIERTO. THANK

05:42:03.970 --> 05:42:05.271
YOU. I'LL BE SUPPORTING YOUR

05:42:05.338 --> 05:42:07.807
BILL TODAY, WHICH IS CONSISTENT

05:42:07.874 --> 05:42:10.243
HOW I VOTED ON THIS AND OTHER

05:42:10.309 --> 05:42:12.979
BILLS THAT ARE SIMILAR, PUSHING

05:42:13.045 --> 05:42:15.715
THE AGE FROM 50, WHICH IS

05:42:15.781 --> 05:42:18.651
ABSURDLY NOT ELDERLY TO AT

05:42:18.718 --> 05:42:21.787
LEAST 60, WHICH IS STILL NOT

05:42:21.854 --> 05:42:25.424
ELDERLY ANYMORE. YOU KNOW, SOME

05:42:25.491 --> 05:42:26.826
THE OFFENSES THAT YOU ARE

05:42:26.893 --> 05:42:29.362
TALKING ABOUT ARE PRETTY NARROW.

05:42:29.428 --> 05:42:31.664
AND WHEN WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEBODY

05:42:31.731 --> 05:42:33.499
THAT COMMITS A CRIME AGAINST A

05:42:33.566 --> 05:42:35.401
CHILD, LIKE MAYBE STRANGLING

05:42:35.468 --> 05:42:37.036
AND RAPING THEM OR TRYING TO

05:42:37.103 --> 05:42:39.171
RAPE THEM FIRST AND THEN

05:42:39.238 --> 05:42:42.408
STRANGLING THEM AND, AND THEN

05:42:42.475 --> 05:42:44.043
YOU GET YOUR 25 YEARS TO LIFE.

05:42:44.110 --> 05:42:47.079
BUT IN 25 YEARS, YOU'RE A

05:42:47.146 --> 05:42:48.147
YOUTHFUL OFFENDER BECAUSE

05:42:48.214 --> 05:42:49.749
YOU'RE 26 AND APPARENTLY YOUR

05:42:49.815 --> 05:42:50.650
BRAIN HASN'T DEVELOPED. YOU CAN

05:42:50.716 --> 05:42:52.418
PLAY FOOTBALL AND DO ALL THOSE

05:42:52.485 --> 05:42:54.253
THINGS, BUT YOU CAN'T, YOU

05:42:54.320 --> 05:42:56.789
CAN'T. YOU CAN'T BE HELD

05:42:56.856 --> 05:42:58.291
RESPONSIBLE FOR FOR DOING A

05:42:58.357 --> 05:43:01.193
HEINOUS CRIME LIKE THIS. YOU

05:43:01.260 --> 05:43:03.229
KNOW WHAT, SOMEWHERE IN THIS

05:43:03.296 --> 05:43:04.664
WORLD, WE NEED TO START

05:43:04.730 --> 05:43:06.799
THINKING ABOUT THE FAMILIES. I

05:43:06.866 --> 05:43:09.068
AM SORRY THAT SOMEBODY DID THIS

05:43:09.135 --> 05:43:12.271
TO THIS POOR CHILD, BECAUSE I

05:43:12.338 --> 05:43:14.006
FEEL BAD FOR THE CHILD. I FEEL

05:43:14.073 --> 05:43:17.677
BAD FOR THE PARENTS. THE THE

05:43:17.743 --> 05:43:19.245
THE GUY WHO PERPETRATED THIS ON

05:43:19.312 --> 05:43:21.247
THEM. I DON'T FEEL BAD FOR HIM.

05:43:21.314 --> 05:43:23.182
I REALLY DON'T YOU KNOW, HE'S

05:43:23.249 --> 05:43:24.550
53. HE'S GOTTEN THREE PAROLE

05:43:24.617 --> 05:43:25.985
HEARINGS, ONE FOR BEING YOUTH

05:43:26.052 --> 05:43:27.353
AND ONE FOR BEING OR TWO FOR

05:43:27.420 --> 05:43:30.022
BEING OLD. AND IT'S ABSURD THAT

05:43:30.089 --> 05:43:32.058
WE THINK THAT THAT'S OLD. THEY

05:43:32.124 --> 05:43:33.526
ARE STILL A PUBLIC SAFETY

05:43:33.592 --> 05:43:34.994
HAZARD. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY

05:43:35.061 --> 05:43:36.128
JUST HAVEN'T PAID FOR? THEY'RE

05:43:36.195 --> 05:43:38.230
THEY'RE THE PRICE. THERE IS NO

05:43:38.297 --> 05:43:40.399
PRICE. WHEN YOU TELL A PARENT

05:43:40.466 --> 05:43:42.168
THAT THEIR THEY HAVE LOST THEIR

05:43:42.234 --> 05:43:44.270
CHILD FOREVER, THERE IS NO

05:43:44.337 --> 05:43:45.738
PRICE THAT SOMEBODY CAN GO AND

05:43:45.805 --> 05:43:50.476
PAY AND WE'LL CALL IT GOOD. SO,

05:43:50.543 --> 05:43:52.011
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST ONE OF THOSE

05:43:52.078 --> 05:43:53.813
PEOPLE THAT BELIEVE THAT WHEN

05:43:53.879 --> 05:43:55.081
SOME THERE ARE SOME LIFE

05:43:55.147 --> 05:43:56.582
CHOICES YOU MAKE THAT WILL

05:43:56.649 --> 05:43:58.184
FOLLOW YOU THE REST OF YOUR

05:43:58.250 --> 05:43:59.452
LIFE. AND IF YOU DIE IN PRISON,

05:43:59.518 --> 05:44:02.388
YOU DIE IN PRISON. SO ANYWAY,

05:44:02.455 --> 05:44:03.656
WITH THAT, I'LL BE SUPPORTING

05:44:03.723 --> 05:44:04.924
YOUR BILL BECAUSE I THINK IT

05:44:04.991 --> 05:44:09.495
MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU. ANY

05:44:09.562 --> 05:44:12.365
FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS?

05:44:12.431 --> 05:44:14.533
SEEING NONE WILL ALLOW YOU TO

05:44:14.600 --> 05:44:17.069
TO CONCLUDE. THANK YOU. THANK

05:44:17.136 --> 05:44:18.170
YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU,

05:44:18.237 --> 05:44:21.073
SENATOR, FOR YOUR WORDS. I

05:44:21.140 --> 05:44:23.843
STOLE THE WORDS OUT OF MY MOUTH.

05:44:23.909 --> 05:44:27.246
AS LEGISLATORS, WE DO WHAT WE

05:44:27.313 --> 05:44:29.482
CAN TO COME UP WITH GOOD POLICY.

05:44:29.548 --> 05:44:30.783
BUT WHEN YOU'RE A PARENT AND

05:44:30.850 --> 05:44:32.952
YOU HAVE KIDS, YOU ALWAYS THINK

05:44:33.019 --> 05:44:35.087
ABOUT THE CHILDREN. WHEN A

05:44:35.154 --> 05:44:36.922
GROWN MAN TAKES HIS PENIS AND

05:44:36.989 --> 05:44:39.792
SHOVES IT UP A LITTLE BOY, NOT

05:44:39.859 --> 05:44:42.261
JUST ONE LITTLE BOY, BUT

05:44:42.328 --> 05:44:45.598
MULTIPLE LITTLE BOYS OVER AND

05:44:45.664 --> 05:44:48.701
OVER AGAIN. THAT LITTLE BOY IS

05:44:48.768 --> 05:44:49.935
GOING TO LIVE WITH THAT TRAUMA

05:44:50.002 --> 05:44:55.041
FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. AND

05:44:55.107 --> 05:44:57.943
WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS TRYING

05:44:58.010 --> 05:45:01.414
TO PROTECT LITTLE KIDS FROM

05:45:01.480 --> 05:45:03.182
EVER HAVING TO GO THROUGH THAT

05:45:03.249 --> 05:45:07.887
AGAIN, EVER. AND WE DO THE BEST

05:45:07.953 --> 05:45:11.724
THAT WE CAN IN OUR ROLES, AND

05:45:11.791 --> 05:45:17.263
EVEN 1% IS TOO MUCH. WHEN YOU

05:45:17.329 --> 05:45:20.366
HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE

05:45:20.433 --> 05:45:24.070
LURING LITTLE GIRLS, AGES SEVEN

05:45:24.136 --> 05:45:26.872
INTO THEIR CARS WITH CANDY AND

05:45:26.939 --> 05:45:30.609
TOYS ONLY SO THEY CAN RAPE THE

05:45:30.676 --> 05:45:34.480
OUT OF THEM, THAT SHOULDN'T SIT

05:45:34.547 --> 05:45:38.451
WELL WITH YOU OR ANYBODY. IT IS

05:45:38.517 --> 05:45:40.586
OUR JOB TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO

05:45:40.653 --> 05:45:43.889
PROTECT THESE LITTLE KIDS. AND

05:45:43.956 --> 05:45:45.558
THAT'S WHAT THIS BILL IS GOING

05:45:45.624 --> 05:45:51.063
TO DO. IF YOU READ IT, YOU'LL

05:45:51.130 --> 05:45:53.165
SEE THAT I'M GOING AFTER

05:45:53.232 --> 05:45:56.068
INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SEXUALLY

05:45:56.135 --> 05:45:57.803
VIOLENT TO TEN YEARS OLD AND

05:45:57.870 --> 05:46:03.676
UNDER TEN YEARS OLD. TEN YEARS

05:46:03.742 --> 05:46:05.845
OLD. I REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED

05:46:05.911 --> 05:46:09.081
TO ME AT TEN YEARS OLD, AND I

05:46:09.148 --> 05:46:10.483
WOULD LIVE WITH SOMETHING LIKE

05:46:10.549 --> 05:46:12.251
THAT FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE,

05:46:12.318 --> 05:46:16.555
EVEN WHEN I'M IN MY 50S OR 60S,

05:46:16.622 --> 05:46:18.224
I'M THINKING ABOUT THE VICTIMS

05:46:18.290 --> 05:46:21.327
THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED TO. THEY

05:46:21.393 --> 05:46:24.196
WOULD BE LIVING WITH THEIR SLY,

05:46:24.263 --> 05:46:28.100
KNOWING THAT AN INDIVIDUAL THAT

05:46:28.167 --> 05:46:30.569
WAS SENTENCED TO 300 YEARS OR

05:46:30.636 --> 05:46:32.838
MORE THINKING THEY WOULD NEVER

05:46:32.905 --> 05:46:35.674
BE RELEASED, BUT HAVING TO COME

05:46:35.741 --> 05:46:39.278
BACK AND RELIVE THAT TRAUMA

05:46:39.345 --> 05:46:43.916
AGAIN AND AGAIN. WE HAVE TO DO

05:46:43.983 --> 05:46:47.186
BETTER WITH THAT. I

05:46:47.253 --> 05:46:49.155
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE

05:46:49.221 --> 05:46:50.356
WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE,

05:46:50.422 --> 05:46:52.591
AND I APOLOGIZE. AS A MOM, I

05:46:52.658 --> 05:46:58.564
CAN ONLY THINK OF. I CAN ONLY

05:46:58.631 --> 05:46:59.999
THINK OF WHAT'S HAPPENING TO

05:47:00.065 --> 05:47:03.202
THE LITTLE KIDS OUT THERE. AND

05:47:03.269 --> 05:47:04.904
I WOULD NEVER WANT SOMETHING

05:47:04.970 --> 05:47:06.672
LIKE THIS TO HAPPEN TO MY GIRLS,

05:47:06.739 --> 05:47:09.175
OR ANY OF YOUR CHILDREN OR YOUR

05:47:09.241 --> 05:47:10.376
GRANDCHILDREN, AND YOU SHOULD

05:47:10.442 --> 05:47:11.777
NOT WANT ANY OF THAT TO HAPPEN

05:47:11.844 --> 05:47:14.613
AS WELL EITHER. THANK YOU.

05:47:14.680 --> 05:47:17.683
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE

05:47:17.750 --> 05:47:19.652
YOUR PASSION AND THE PAIN

05:47:19.718 --> 05:47:23.923
THAT'S INVOLVED IN IN CHILD

05:47:23.989 --> 05:47:26.192
SEXUAL ABUSE. THANK YOU VERY

05:47:26.258 --> 05:47:27.893
MUCH FOR BEING HERE, AND THANK

05:47:27.960 --> 05:47:29.028
YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY,

05:47:29.094 --> 05:47:29.962
EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR

05:47:30.029 --> 05:47:31.597
TESTIMONY. NOT AN EASY SUBJECT.

05:47:31.664 --> 05:47:33.566
I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. SO

05:47:33.632 --> 05:47:36.569
MOVED. THERE'S A MOTION. PLEASE

05:47:36.635 --> 05:47:39.672
CALL THE ROLL. ÁP 2727 NGUYEN

05:47:39.738 --> 05:47:41.173
MOTION IS DUE. PASSED TO

05:47:41.240 --> 05:47:43.342
APPROPRIATIONS. AGAIN. THEY ARE,

05:47:43.409 --> 05:47:45.778
I SATO A CABALLERO, A CABALLERO,

05:47:45.844 --> 05:47:49.515
A CORTEZ. PEREZ. WIENER WIENER

05:47:49.582 --> 05:47:57.790
A. OKAY, WELL, WE'RE. NEXT UP

05:47:57.856 --> 05:48:00.359
IS ASSEMBLY MEMBER BAUER-KAHAN.

05:48:00.426 --> 05:48:02.394
I DO APOLOGIZE TO THE OTHER

05:48:02.461 --> 05:48:04.196
ASSEMBLY MEMBERS THAT THAT WERE

05:48:04.263 --> 05:48:05.698
HERE BEFORE HER, BUT, YOU KNOW,

05:48:05.764 --> 05:48:08.167
SHE KIND OF SNUCK IN, I THINK

05:48:08.234 --> 05:48:09.768
MY THIRD VISIT TO THE ROOM

05:48:09.835 --> 05:48:12.471
TRYING TO GET IN. SO I

05:48:12.538 --> 05:48:16.942
UNDERSTAND, I KNOW. SO YOU ARE

05:48:17.009 --> 05:48:22.982
HERE ON A B 2047. THAT IS RIGHT.

05:48:23.048 --> 05:48:24.750
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR IS YOURS.

05:48:24.817 --> 05:48:25.851
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR AND

05:48:25.918 --> 05:48:27.152
MEMBERS, I WANT TO START BY

05:48:27.219 --> 05:48:28.187
THANKING COMMITTEE STAFF FOR

05:48:28.254 --> 05:48:29.321
THEIR WORK ON THE BILL AND

05:48:29.388 --> 05:48:30.322
CONFIRMING THAT I'LL BE

05:48:30.389 --> 05:48:31.423
ACCEPTING THE AMENDMENTS FROM

05:48:31.490 --> 05:48:33.092
THE COMMITTEE TO REMOVE THE

05:48:33.158 --> 05:48:34.093
CRIMINAL PENALTIES FROM THE

05:48:34.159 --> 05:48:35.661
BILL. I'M PROUD TO PRESENT AB

05:48:35.728 --> 05:48:36.929
2047, ALONG WITH MY SPONSORS,

05:48:36.996 --> 05:48:38.831
EVERYTOWN FOR GUN SAFETY. OVER

05:48:38.897 --> 05:48:39.898
MANY YEARS, CALIFORNIA HAS SET

05:48:39.965 --> 05:48:41.567
THE STANDARD AND TAKING AN

05:48:41.634 --> 05:48:42.635
ACTIVE ROLE TO PROTECT OUR

05:48:42.701 --> 05:48:43.869
COMMUNITIES AGAINST GUN

05:48:43.936 --> 05:48:46.405
VIOLENCE. AND THE CHAIR OF THIS

05:48:46.472 --> 05:48:48.507
COMMITTEE, SENATOR ARAGON, HAS

05:48:48.574 --> 05:48:49.642
LED THE WAY ON THIS, AND I WANT

05:48:49.708 --> 05:48:51.477
TO THANK HIM FOR HIS INCREDIBLE

05:48:51.543 --> 05:48:53.979
WORK. AB 2047 BUILDS ON PRIOR

05:48:54.046 --> 05:48:55.080
LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS THE

05:48:55.147 --> 05:48:56.482
NEWEST FIREARM THREAT, WHICH IS

05:48:56.548 --> 05:48:58.584
3D PRINTED WEAPONS. NUMEROUS

05:48:58.651 --> 05:49:00.052
REPORTS FROM THE DOJ AND

05:49:00.119 --> 05:49:01.186
NONPROFITS HAVE EMERGED

05:49:01.253 --> 05:49:02.154
DEMONSTRATING THE PROLIFERATION

05:49:02.221 --> 05:49:03.989
OF THESE 3D PRINTED FIREARMS.

05:49:04.056 --> 05:49:05.758
JUST SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR,

05:49:05.824 --> 05:49:06.825
THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL 3D

05:49:06.892 --> 05:49:07.826
PRINTED GUN BUSTS AND

05:49:07.893 --> 05:49:09.028
RECOVERIES IN CALIFORNIA,

05:49:09.094 --> 05:49:10.529
INCLUDING IN SAN JOSE, SAN

05:49:10.596 --> 05:49:12.665
BERNARDINO AND SANTA ROSA. WE

05:49:12.731 --> 05:49:14.466
CANNOT STAND BY WHILE THESE

05:49:14.533 --> 05:49:15.701
FIREARMS CONTINUE TO FLOW INTO

05:49:15.768 --> 05:49:18.003
OUR COMMUNITIES. AB 2047

05:49:18.070 --> 05:49:19.838
CREATES AN UPSTREAM SOLUTION BY

05:49:19.905 --> 05:49:21.340
REQUIRING THAT ALL THREE

05:49:21.407 --> 05:49:22.841
DIMENSIONAL PRINTERS SOLD IN

05:49:22.908 --> 05:49:24.109
CALIFORNIA ARE EQUIPPED WITH

05:49:24.176 --> 05:49:25.611
FIREARM BLOCKING FEATURES. TO

05:49:25.678 --> 05:49:26.745
PROHIBIT THE PRINTING OF

05:49:26.812 --> 05:49:28.180
DANGEROUS GUN PARTS. WE WILL

05:49:28.247 --> 05:49:29.581
NOT BE THE FIRST IN THE NATION

05:49:29.648 --> 05:49:31.350
TO DO THIS. NEW YORK HAS

05:49:31.417 --> 05:49:32.451
ALREADY PASSED THIS POLICY

05:49:32.518 --> 05:49:33.585
EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND IT WAS

05:49:33.652 --> 05:49:35.421
SIGNED INTO LAW. AT ITS CORE,

05:49:35.487 --> 05:49:36.689
THIS IS ABOUT ENDING GUN

05:49:36.755 --> 05:49:37.790
VIOLENCE. IT'S ABOUT KEEPING

05:49:37.856 --> 05:49:38.924
OUR CHILDREN SAFE IN THEIR

05:49:38.991 --> 05:49:40.125
SCHOOLS, OUR FAMILIES SAFE WHEN

05:49:40.192 --> 05:49:41.627
THEY ATTEND WORSHIP SERVICE AT

05:49:41.694 --> 05:49:43.996
THE MALL OR A CONCERT. AB 2047

05:49:44.063 --> 05:49:45.431
IS SUPPORTED BY A UNIQUE

05:49:45.497 --> 05:49:46.465
COALITION OF DOCTORS, PARENTS,

05:49:46.532 --> 05:49:48.167
LAW ENFORCEMENT AND STUDENTS.

05:49:48.233 --> 05:49:50.002
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MY WITNESS,

05:49:50.069 --> 05:49:52.971
CRYSTAL CRYSTAL POLITO,

05:49:53.038 --> 05:49:54.406
DIRECTOR OF POLICY ADVOCACY FOR

05:49:54.473 --> 05:49:56.141
EVERYTOWN, AND CHRISTINA

05:49:56.208 --> 05:49:57.209
CUNDARI, VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS

05:49:57.276 --> 05:50:03.782
DEMAND ACTION. WELCOME. GOOD

05:50:03.849 --> 05:50:05.951
AFTERNOON CHAIR. THERE YOU GO.

05:50:06.018 --> 05:50:07.753
AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE,

05:50:07.820 --> 05:50:10.322
OUR ACTING CHAIR. MY NAME IS

05:50:10.389 --> 05:50:12.491
CRYSTAL, AND I SERVE AS POLICY

05:50:12.558 --> 05:50:13.859
ADVOCACY DIRECTOR AT EVERYTOWN

05:50:13.926 --> 05:50:15.694
FOR GUN SAFETY. TOGETHER WITH

05:50:15.761 --> 05:50:17.229
MOMS DEMAND ACTION AND STUDENTS

05:50:17.296 --> 05:50:18.530
DEMAND ACTION, WE ARE THE

05:50:18.597 --> 05:50:20.065
LARGEST GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION

05:50:20.132 --> 05:50:21.467
ORGANIZATION IN THE NATION.

05:50:21.533 --> 05:50:23.535
WE'RE PROUD SPONSORS OF AB 2047

05:50:23.602 --> 05:50:25.003
AND GRATEFUL TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER

05:50:25.070 --> 05:50:26.004
BAUER-KAHAN FOR BRINGING THIS

05:50:26.071 --> 05:50:28.574
BILL FORWARD. AB 2047 IS THE

05:50:28.640 --> 05:50:30.275
COMMON SENSE NEXT STEP IN

05:50:30.342 --> 05:50:31.076
CALIFORNIA'S FIGHT AGAINST

05:50:31.143 --> 05:50:33.011
GHOST GUNS. THIS COMMITTEE HAS

05:50:33.078 --> 05:50:34.780
BEEN AT THE FOREFRONT OF

05:50:34.847 --> 05:50:35.814
RECOGNIZING THE EXISTENTIAL

05:50:35.881 --> 05:50:37.249
THREAT THAT 3D PRINTED FIREARMS

05:50:37.316 --> 05:50:39.084
POSE TO CALIFORNIA'S GUN LAWS,

05:50:39.151 --> 05:50:40.486
AND ADVANCING STRONG POLICIES

05:50:40.552 --> 05:50:42.020
TO ADDRESS THIS NEXT WAVE OF

05:50:42.087 --> 05:50:44.123
THE GHOST GUNS CRISIS. LAST

05:50:44.189 --> 05:50:46.158
YEAR'S SB 704 CREATED ONE NEW

05:50:46.225 --> 05:50:48.093
STEP TO BEGIN THWARTING DIY GUN

05:50:48.160 --> 05:50:48.761
MAKERS WHO CAN'T PASS A

05:50:48.827 --> 05:50:50.329
BACKGROUND CHECK. THIS

05:50:50.396 --> 05:50:51.497
COMMITTEE WAS ALSO A KEY STOP

05:50:51.563 --> 05:50:55.634
FOR 2022 AB 2156 AND 2023 AB

05:50:55.701 --> 05:50:56.835
1089, WHICH MADE IT A CRIME TO

05:50:56.902 --> 05:50:58.937
3D PRINT GUNS WITHOUT A FIREARM

05:50:59.004 --> 05:51:00.272
MANUFACTURING LICENSE, AND THIS

05:51:00.339 --> 05:51:01.206
COMMITTEE HELPED ADVANCE LAST

05:51:01.273 --> 05:51:03.108
YEAR'S AB 1263, WHICH MADE IT

05:51:03.175 --> 05:51:04.176
ILLEGAL TO AID, ABET OR

05:51:04.243 --> 05:51:05.744
FACILITATE ANOTHER PERSON

05:51:05.811 --> 05:51:06.745
MANUFACTURING FIREARMS WITH A

05:51:06.812 --> 05:51:08.981
3D PRINTER. WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE

05:51:09.047 --> 05:51:11.784
US WITH AB 2047 IS DIFFERENT.

05:51:11.850 --> 05:51:13.318
IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD A

05:51:13.385 --> 05:51:15.053
NEW, TRULY PREVENTATIVE LAYER

05:51:15.120 --> 05:51:16.488
ON TOP OF THOSE EXISTING

05:51:16.555 --> 05:51:17.523
PROSECUTION FOCUSED PUBLIC

05:51:17.589 --> 05:51:19.358
SAFETY LAWS, WE CAN STOP GUN

05:51:19.425 --> 05:51:21.493
PRINTING AT THE SOURCE.

05:51:21.560 --> 05:51:22.728
TECHNOLOGY NOW EXISTS TO BLOCK

05:51:22.795 --> 05:51:23.896
THE PRINTING OF FILES THAT HAVE

05:51:23.962 --> 05:51:25.831
BEEN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED AS

05:51:25.898 --> 05:51:27.633
FIREARM DESIGN FILES, ENSURING

05:51:27.699 --> 05:51:30.102
THAT TECHNOLOGY IS EQUIPPED ON

05:51:30.169 --> 05:51:30.936
ALL PRINTERS SOLD TO RETAIL

05:51:31.003 --> 05:51:32.638
CONSUMERS IN CALIFORNIA IS A

05:51:32.704 --> 05:51:33.906
NEW AND PREVENTATIVE WAY TO

05:51:33.972 --> 05:51:35.841
EFFECTUATE OUR EXISTING LAWS.

05:51:35.908 --> 05:51:38.043
TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS SO MUCH

05:51:38.110 --> 05:51:39.445
POSITIVE CREATIVITY AND

05:51:39.511 --> 05:51:41.346
INNOVATION HAPPENING AS 3D

05:51:41.413 --> 05:51:42.347
PRINTING BECOMES MORE

05:51:42.414 --> 05:51:44.183
ACCESSIBLE AND AFFORDABLE. WE

05:51:44.249 --> 05:51:45.984
CAN ALL AGREE ON THAT. THIS

05:51:46.051 --> 05:51:47.653
BILL WON'T STIFLE OR THREATEN

05:51:47.719 --> 05:51:49.288
IT, AND IT INCLUDES A CAREFUL

05:51:49.354 --> 05:51:50.689
THREE YEAR IMPLEMENTATION

05:51:50.756 --> 05:51:51.690
PROCESS. TO BE SURE, THE

05:51:51.757 --> 05:51:52.858
TECHNOLOGY IS MINIMALLY

05:51:52.925 --> 05:51:54.593
DISRUPTIVE TO LEGAL PRINT JOBS,

05:51:54.660 --> 05:51:56.295
BUT WE NEED TO PASS THIS BILL

05:51:56.361 --> 05:51:57.296
AND START THAT IMPLEMENTATION

05:51:57.362 --> 05:51:59.298
PROCESS NOW TO STOP THE

05:51:59.364 --> 05:52:00.532
FLOODGATES OF 3D PRINTED GUNS

05:52:00.599 --> 05:52:01.867
BEFORE IT GETS OUT OF CONTROL.

05:52:01.934 --> 05:52:03.602
THANK YOU. WE ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.

05:52:03.669 --> 05:52:09.074
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. SORRY. MY

05:52:09.141 --> 05:52:11.176
NAME IS CHRISTINA CUNDARI AND

05:52:11.243 --> 05:52:12.478
I'M A VOLUNTEER AND THE LOCAL

05:52:12.544 --> 05:52:14.346
GROUP CO-LEAD FOR THE SAN

05:52:14.413 --> 05:52:17.249
FRANCISCO MOMS DEMAND ACTION

05:52:17.316 --> 05:52:19.685
GROUP. I TEACH COUTURE

05:52:19.751 --> 05:52:21.153
EMBROIDERY AT AN ART SCHOOL,

05:52:21.220 --> 05:52:23.021
AND WE HAVE MULTIPLE 3D

05:52:23.088 --> 05:52:24.756
PRINTERS ON OUR CAMPUS. WE

05:52:24.823 --> 05:52:25.891
ENCOURAGE OUR STUDENTS TO USE

05:52:25.958 --> 05:52:28.026
THEM IN THEIR CLASSES AND

05:52:28.093 --> 05:52:29.761
ACTIVITIES. IN MY CLASSES,

05:52:29.828 --> 05:52:31.697
STUDENTS CAN USE 3D PRINTERS TO

05:52:31.763 --> 05:52:33.398
CREATE THEIR OWN SEQUINS, BEADS,

05:52:33.465 --> 05:52:34.533
AND OTHER COMPONENTS THAT THEY

05:52:34.600 --> 05:52:36.668
USE IN THEIR FASHION DESIGN

05:52:36.735 --> 05:52:38.770
PROJECTS. AS AN EDUCATOR, I'M

05:52:38.837 --> 05:52:40.572
CONSTANTLY AMAZED AT WHAT MY

05:52:40.639 --> 05:52:42.808
STUDENTS CREATE WITH THEIR 3D

05:52:42.875 --> 05:52:44.676
PRINTING AND 3D PRINTERS HAVE

05:52:44.743 --> 05:52:46.044
BROADENED THEIR HORIZONS AND

05:52:46.111 --> 05:52:47.679
CREATED SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES

05:52:47.746 --> 05:52:49.948
FOR THEM. BUT WITH THOSE

05:52:50.015 --> 05:52:51.049
OPPORTUNITIES COMES A

05:52:51.116 --> 05:52:52.284
TERRIFYING REALITY THAT THEY

05:52:52.351 --> 05:52:55.120
CAN USE THOSE TO PRINT A GUN.

05:52:55.187 --> 05:52:56.889
THIS IS NOT HYPOTHETICAL. THIS

05:52:56.955 --> 05:52:58.590
IS HAPPENING ALL AROUND OUR

05:52:58.657 --> 05:53:00.025
STATE. AND IN THE LAST YEAR

05:53:00.092 --> 05:53:02.127
ALONE, A TEENAGER IN SAN JOSE

05:53:02.194 --> 05:53:05.397
WAS ARRESTED WITH 27 3D PRINTED

05:53:05.464 --> 05:53:07.165
GUNS, INCLUDING GUNS MODIFIED

05:53:07.232 --> 05:53:09.701
TO FUNCTION LIKE A MACHINE GUN.

05:53:09.768 --> 05:53:11.870
SANTA ROSA POLICE ARRESTED AND

05:53:11.937 --> 05:53:14.806
CHARGED A TEENAGER FOR USING 3D

05:53:14.873 --> 05:53:16.508
PRINTERS IN AN ILLEGAL FIREARM

05:53:16.575 --> 05:53:18.777
MAKING OPERATION, AND A

05:53:18.844 --> 05:53:20.512
TEENAGER IN SAN DIEGO WAS

05:53:20.579 --> 05:53:22.281
ARRESTED FOR BRINGING A LOADED

05:53:22.347 --> 05:53:24.483
FIREARM TO SCHOOL. AFTERWARDS,

05:53:24.550 --> 05:53:26.385
POLICE DISCOVERED MULTIPLE 3D

05:53:26.451 --> 05:53:28.887
PRINTED FIREARM FRAMES AND 3D

05:53:28.954 --> 05:53:30.689
PRINTED CONVERSION DEVICES IN

05:53:30.756 --> 05:53:33.125
HIS HOME. THERE IS SO MUCH

05:53:33.191 --> 05:53:35.060
POTENTIAL AND PROMISE FOR 3D

05:53:35.127 --> 05:53:36.461
PRINTING. I SEE IT EVERY DAY

05:53:36.528 --> 05:53:38.330
WITH MY OWN STUDENTS. BUT WHEN

05:53:38.397 --> 05:53:40.399
A FULLY OPERABLE FIREARM IS

05:53:40.465 --> 05:53:42.534
DEADLY AS A STORE BOUGHT WEAPON

05:53:42.601 --> 05:53:44.670
CAN BE MANUFACTURED BY A

05:53:44.736 --> 05:53:45.737
TEENAGER OR ANYONE ELSE WHO

05:53:45.804 --> 05:53:47.139
WANTS TO SKIP A BACKGROUND

05:53:47.205 --> 05:53:50.342
CHECK, 3D PRINTERS PRESENT A

05:53:50.409 --> 05:53:51.877
DANGEROUS REALITY, WHICH IS

05:53:51.944 --> 05:53:53.345
ONLY GOING TO GET WORSE IF WE

05:53:53.412 --> 05:53:55.847
DON'T ACT. THE LAW CAN BALANCE

05:53:55.914 --> 05:53:57.649
RESPECT FOR INNOVATION

05:53:57.716 --> 05:53:59.418
ALONGSIDE THE NEED TO KEEP OUR

05:53:59.484 --> 05:54:01.853
COMMUNITY SAFE, AND THIS BILL

05:54:01.920 --> 05:54:05.557
DOES. THIS LAW DOESN'T BAN 3D

05:54:05.624 --> 05:54:06.959
PRINTERS. IT JUST REQUIRES

05:54:07.025 --> 05:54:08.393
PRINTERS TO HAVE A SAFETY

05:54:08.460 --> 05:54:10.162
FEATURE THAT STOPS THEM FROM

05:54:10.228 --> 05:54:13.498
PRINTING ILLEGAL GUNS. AS AN

05:54:13.565 --> 05:54:15.334
EDUCATOR, A PARENT, AND A

05:54:15.400 --> 05:54:16.768
VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND

05:54:16.835 --> 05:54:18.804
ACTION, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A

05:54:18.870 --> 05:54:19.871
RESPONSIBILITY TO PUT

05:54:19.938 --> 05:54:21.139
GUARDRAILS IN PLACE TO PROTECT

05:54:21.206 --> 05:54:23.909
OUR KIDS. ONE CHILD'S LIFE

05:54:23.976 --> 05:54:26.144
RUINED FROM A 3D PRINTED

05:54:26.211 --> 05:54:27.980
FIREARM IS ONE TOO MANY. FOR

05:54:28.046 --> 05:54:30.382
THIS REASON, I URGE A VOTE YES

05:54:30.449 --> 05:54:32.985
ON AB 2047. THANK YOU. THANK

05:54:33.051 --> 05:54:34.319
YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR

05:54:34.386 --> 05:54:36.054
BEING HERE. ANYONE WHO WOULD

05:54:36.121 --> 05:54:38.457
LIKE TO TESTIFY IN SUPPORT,

05:54:38.523 --> 05:54:45.831
PLEASE COME FORWARD. CHLOE KING

05:54:45.897 --> 05:54:46.965
WITH POLITICAL SOLUTIONS ON

05:54:47.032 --> 05:54:48.200
BEHALF OF THE AMERICAN ACADEMY

05:54:48.266 --> 05:54:49.401
OF PEDIATRICS AND SUPPORT.

05:54:49.468 --> 05:54:53.105
THANK YOU. THANK YOU, KATIE

05:54:53.171 --> 05:54:55.507
KIRK ON BEHALF OF MOMS DEMAND

05:54:55.574 --> 05:55:03.148
ACTION. AND I ADVOCATE FOR. IN

05:55:03.215 --> 05:55:06.385
SUPPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

05:55:06.451 --> 05:55:07.819
LESLIE RUIZ ON MOMS DEMAND

05:55:07.886 --> 05:55:10.656
ACTION IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

05:55:10.722 --> 05:55:11.890
BRIDGET JAKOBOVITS, PUBLIC

05:55:11.957 --> 05:55:14.359
SCHOOL TEACHER IN PLEASANTON,

05:55:14.426 --> 05:55:15.394
CALIFORNIA. AND MOMS DEMAND

05:55:15.460 --> 05:55:17.162
ACTION VOLUNTEER IN SUPPORT.

05:55:17.229 --> 05:55:21.133
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. JANIE

05:55:21.199 --> 05:55:24.036
DOBBS, PLEASANTON, VOLUNTEER

05:55:24.102 --> 05:55:26.204
WITH MOMS DEMAND ACTION FOR GUN

05:55:26.271 --> 05:55:28.740
SENSE IN AMERICA. AND I FULLY

05:55:28.807 --> 05:55:34.446
SUPPORT AB 2047. THANK YOU. JA

05:55:34.513 --> 05:55:36.281
ET AL. VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS

05:55:36.348 --> 05:55:38.417
DEMAND ACTION, FORMER NANNY AND

05:55:38.483 --> 05:55:40.152
FORMER PRESCHOOL TEACHER IN

05:55:40.218 --> 05:55:43.822
SUPPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH,

05:55:43.889 --> 05:55:44.890
CHARLES ALLEN ON BEHALF OF

05:55:44.956 --> 05:55:46.825
EVERYTOWN FOR GUN SAFETY. PROUD

05:55:46.892 --> 05:55:49.961
SPONSORS AND STRONG SUPPORT FOR

05:55:50.028 --> 05:55:53.865
2047. THANK YOU. LINDA GAYLE,

05:55:53.932 --> 05:55:56.535
SAN FRANCISCO RESIDENT AND I AM

05:55:56.601 --> 05:55:58.670
A VOLUNTEER WITH MOMS DEMAND

05:55:58.737 --> 05:56:01.506
ACTION AND I FULLY SUPPORT AB

05:56:01.573 --> 05:56:05.644
2047. THANK YOU. BRENDA NIXON,

05:56:05.711 --> 05:56:07.546
RETIRED EDUCATOR AND MOMS

05:56:07.612 --> 05:56:09.281
DEMAND ACTION VOLUNTEER IN

05:56:09.347 --> 05:56:12.584
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. SARAH

05:56:12.651 --> 05:56:14.052
BURGER MOMS DEMAND ACTION

05:56:14.119 --> 05:56:15.153
VOLUNTEER AND PUBLIC SCHOOL

05:56:15.220 --> 05:56:19.558
PARENT AND SUPPORT. RACHEL.

05:56:19.624 --> 05:56:23.495
RACHEL WITH MOMS DEMAND ACTION

05:56:23.562 --> 05:56:28.400
IN SUPPORT. MARY Dð, GUN

05:56:28.467 --> 05:56:31.269
VIOLENCE SURVIVOR AND VOLUNTEER

05:56:31.336 --> 05:56:33.839
FOR NOR-CAL GUN VIOLENCE

05:56:33.905 --> 05:56:37.876
PREVENTION. THANK YOU. MAX

05:56:37.943 --> 05:56:38.944
PERRY ON BEHALF OF THE

05:56:39.010 --> 05:56:39.945
CALIFORNIA POLICE CHIEFS

05:56:40.011 --> 05:56:41.079
ASSOCIATION AND SUPPORT. THANK

05:56:41.146 --> 05:56:45.317
YOU. JANET SURRATT, MOMS DEMAND

05:56:45.383 --> 05:56:50.756
ACTION. VOLUNTEER IN SUPPORT.

05:56:50.822 --> 05:56:52.224
MARIAH HODGE, MOMS DEMAND

05:56:52.290 --> 05:56:53.992
ACTION VOLUNTEER AND SUPPORT.

05:56:54.059 --> 05:56:58.263
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. CLAIRE

05:56:58.330 --> 05:57:00.132
SANTANA, MOMS DEMAND ACTION

05:57:00.198 --> 05:57:01.566
VOLUNTEER IN A GUN VIOLENCE

05:57:01.633 --> 05:57:06.638
SURVIVOR. SUPPORT. COOPER

05:57:06.705 --> 05:57:08.473
HOWARD. MOMS DEMAND ACTION.

05:57:08.540 --> 05:57:13.478
VOLUNTEER IN SUPPORT. ELIZABETH

05:57:13.545 --> 05:57:15.647
CARPENTER. MOMS DEMAND ACTION.

05:57:15.714 --> 05:57:21.686
VOLUNTEER IN SUPPORT. GOOD

05:57:21.753 --> 05:57:23.522
AFTERNOON, DONALD STURKEY MOMS

05:57:23.588 --> 05:57:26.024
DEMAND ACTION VOLUNTEER AND I

05:57:26.091 --> 05:57:31.129
SUPPORT SHOULD BE MOMS AND DADS.

05:57:31.196 --> 05:57:32.564
MITCH STEIGER WITH CFT. A UNION

05:57:32.631 --> 05:57:33.999
OF EDUCATORS AND CLASSIFIED

05:57:34.065 --> 05:57:35.534
PROFESSIONALS ALSO IN SUPPORT.

05:57:35.600 --> 05:57:37.602
THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON,

05:57:37.669 --> 05:57:39.337
CHAIR MEMBERS ON BEHALF OF

05:57:39.404 --> 05:57:40.305
PROSECUTORS. ALLIANCE IN

05:57:40.372 --> 05:57:43.608
SUPPORT. JAMIE MINER ON BEHALF

05:57:43.675 --> 05:57:45.110
OF GIFFORDS. PLEASED TO SUPPORT.

05:57:45.177 --> 05:57:47.345
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

05:57:47.412 --> 05:57:49.481
ANYONE ELSE IN SUPPORT? NOW

05:57:49.548 --> 05:57:51.616
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE OVER TO

05:57:51.683 --> 05:58:06.431
OPPOSITION. WELCOME. CHAIR AND

05:58:06.498 --> 05:58:07.499
MEMBERS. MY NAME IS AUBRY

05:58:07.566 --> 05:58:09.034
RODRIGUEZ. I'M A JUDGE ADVOCATE

05:58:09.100 --> 05:58:10.468
WITH ACLU, CAL ACTION. WHILE WE

05:58:10.535 --> 05:58:11.403
ARE APPRECIATIVE OF THE

05:58:11.469 --> 05:58:12.304
COMMITTEE AMENDMENTS, WE

05:58:12.370 --> 05:58:13.605
CONTINUE TO HAVE STRONG

05:58:13.672 --> 05:58:16.174
CONCERNS WITH AB 2047. TO START.

05:58:16.241 --> 05:58:17.843
THIS BILL POSES GRAVE RISKS TO

05:58:17.909 --> 05:58:19.077
MANY USERS OF 3D PRINTERS AND

05:58:19.144 --> 05:58:21.179
THE RIGHT TO PRIVACY. JUST

05:58:21.246 --> 05:58:22.180
YESTERDAY, THE SUPREME COURT

05:58:22.247 --> 05:58:23.615
REAFFIRMED AN INDIVIDUAL'S

05:58:23.682 --> 05:58:24.883
RIGHT TO REASONABLE EXPECTATION

05:58:24.950 --> 05:58:27.619
OF PRIVACY IN THE UNITED STATES.

05:58:27.686 --> 05:58:28.720
IN A CONCURRING OPINION,

05:58:28.787 --> 05:58:30.255
JUSTICE GORSUCH WROTE THAT ONCE

05:58:30.322 --> 05:58:31.623
PAPERS OR EFFECTS WAS

05:58:31.690 --> 05:58:32.757
UNDERSTOOD AT THE TIME OF THE

05:58:32.824 --> 05:58:34.893
FOURTH AMENDMENT ADOPTION TO

05:58:34.960 --> 05:58:36.294
EMBRACE MOST OF ANY KIND OF

05:58:36.361 --> 05:58:38.396
PERSONAL PROPERTY. THIS

05:58:38.463 --> 05:58:39.898
UNEQUIVOCALLY INCLUDES ONE 3D

05:58:39.965 --> 05:58:41.733
PRINTER, AND EVERY OWNER OF 3D

05:58:41.800 --> 05:58:43.134
PRINTER HOLDS THE RIGHT TO

05:58:43.201 --> 05:58:44.870
REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF

05:58:44.936 --> 05:58:45.971
PRIVACY WHEN PRINTING IN THEIR

05:58:46.037 --> 05:58:48.240
OWN HOME. AND IF THE GOVERNMENT

05:58:48.306 --> 05:58:49.574
SUSPECTS AN INDIVIDUAL

05:58:49.641 --> 05:58:50.742
VIOLATING THE LAW BY 3D

05:58:50.809 --> 05:58:52.410
PRINTING GHOST GUNS, THEY CAN

05:58:52.477 --> 05:58:54.446
OBTAIN A SEARCH WARRANT. RATHER

05:58:54.512 --> 05:58:56.214
THAN MANDATING A DYSTOPIAN

05:58:56.281 --> 05:58:58.550
SCANNING TOOL THAT CONSTANTLY

05:58:58.617 --> 05:59:00.018
MONITORS WHAT PEOPLE DO IN THE

05:59:00.085 --> 05:59:01.820
PRIVACY OF THEIR OWN HOMES,

05:59:01.887 --> 05:59:03.655
THIS NEWLY ACQUIRED ALGORITHM

05:59:03.722 --> 05:59:05.056
CONTAINS TROUBLING SIMILARITIES

05:59:05.123 --> 05:59:06.892
TO EFFORTS BY GOVERNMENTS AND

05:59:06.958 --> 05:59:08.360
CORPORATIONS TO EITHER BREAK

05:59:08.426 --> 05:59:10.028
END TO END ENCRYPTION, OR

05:59:10.095 --> 05:59:11.563
INCLUDE CONTENT SCANNING

05:59:11.630 --> 05:59:12.530
TECHNOLOGY ON PEOPLE'S

05:59:12.597 --> 05:59:16.201
ELECTRONIC DEVICES. AT THE ACLU,

05:59:16.268 --> 05:59:17.435
WE WARNED OF THE DANGERS THAT

05:59:17.502 --> 05:59:19.170
THIS TECHNOLOGY BRINGS AND HOW

05:59:19.237 --> 05:59:20.872
IT MAY BE EXPLOITED TO CONDUCT

05:59:20.939 --> 05:59:23.008
FAR REACHING SURVEILLANCE,

05:59:23.074 --> 05:59:24.542
MANDATING AN ALGORITHM THAT

05:59:24.609 --> 05:59:26.077
SCANS FOR POSSIBLE PRINTING OF

05:59:26.144 --> 05:59:28.380
A GHOST GUN POSES SIMILAR RISK.

05:59:28.446 --> 05:59:29.948
AND THE QUESTION IS, WHERE WILL

05:59:30.015 --> 05:59:32.083
THIS CONSTANT SURVEILLANCE

05:59:32.150 --> 05:59:34.286
MONITORING OUR EVERY MOVE END?

05:59:34.352 --> 05:59:36.021
ONCE THIS SCANNING ALGORITHM IS

05:59:36.087 --> 05:59:37.856
IN PLACE, IT COULD BE ABUSED BY

05:59:37.923 --> 05:59:39.557
GOVERNMENTS OR CORPORATIONS TO

05:59:39.624 --> 05:59:41.326
PREVENT SOCIALLY OR POLITICALLY

05:59:41.393 --> 05:59:43.595
SENSITIVE 3D PRINTED DESIGNS

05:59:43.662 --> 05:59:44.729
INFRINGING ON OUR CIVIL

05:59:44.796 --> 05:59:46.231
LIBERTIES. THIS TYPE OF

05:59:46.298 --> 05:59:47.899
SOFTWARE CREATES A PERMANENT

05:59:47.966 --> 05:59:48.900
BACKDOOR INTO THE PRIVACY OF

05:59:48.967 --> 05:59:51.169
OUR OWN HOMES, RIPE FOR

05:59:51.236 --> 05:59:52.971
EXPLOITATION. AND ONCE THIS NEW

05:59:53.038 --> 05:59:54.839
INFRASTRUCTURE EXISTS, IT IS A

05:59:54.906 --> 05:59:56.174
SIMPLE SOFTWARE UPDATE AWAY

05:59:56.241 --> 05:59:57.575
FROM TRACKING POLITICAL

05:59:57.642 --> 05:59:59.010
DISSENTS OR PREVENTING 3D

05:59:59.077 --> 06:00:00.512
PRINTED DESIGNS DEEMED

06:00:00.578 --> 06:00:02.614
INAPPROPRIATE. WE REMAIN

06:00:02.681 --> 06:00:04.783
SKEPTICAL OF ANY SOFTWARE THAT

06:00:04.849 --> 06:00:06.284
CONTAINS A CLIENT SIDE SCANNING

06:00:06.351 --> 06:00:08.019
SYSTEM THAT IS PURPORTEDLY ONLY

06:00:08.086 --> 06:00:09.921
DESIGNED TO CAPTURE SPECIFIC

06:00:09.988 --> 06:00:11.623
FILES, AS A SOFTWARE INVADES

06:00:11.690 --> 06:00:12.991
THE PRIVACY OF USERS WITH 3D

06:00:13.058 --> 06:00:15.193
PRINTERS, WHO WILL BY NECESSITY

06:00:15.260 --> 06:00:16.728
HAVE EVERYTHING THEY PRINT

06:00:16.795 --> 06:00:18.063
SCANNED AND APPROVED BY AN

06:00:18.129 --> 06:00:19.931
OPAQUE ALGORITHM. FOR THESE

06:00:19.998 --> 06:00:21.299
REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY URGE A

06:00:21.366 --> 06:00:24.235
STRONG NO VOTE ON THIS BILL.

06:00:24.302 --> 06:00:27.806
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HI, I'M

06:00:27.872 --> 06:00:29.641
DAVID TOBIN, I AM. OH, THERE WE

06:00:29.708 --> 06:00:31.810
GO. GOOD MORNING. I'M DAVID

06:00:31.876 --> 06:00:32.877
TOBIN, I'M THE EXECUTIVE

06:00:32.944 --> 06:00:34.045
PRODUCER OF THE SHOW 3D

06:00:34.112 --> 06:00:35.347
PRINTING NERD. I'M ALSO THE

06:00:35.413 --> 06:00:36.414
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE

06:00:36.481 --> 06:00:37.983
COMMUNITY MANUFACTURING

06:00:38.049 --> 06:00:40.051
INITIATIVE, AND I WANT TO SAY

06:00:40.118 --> 06:00:41.186
HELLO TO EVERYONE WATCHING ON

06:00:41.252 --> 06:00:43.021
THE LIVE STREAM. AND THANK YOU

06:00:43.088 --> 06:00:44.589
FOR COMING. WE BROADCAST THIS

06:00:44.656 --> 06:00:45.857
TO ALL THE EDUCATORS THROUGHOUT

06:00:45.924 --> 06:00:47.492
THE STATE TO MAKE SURE THEY

06:00:47.559 --> 06:00:48.660
WERE ALL AWARE OF WHAT WAS

06:00:48.727 --> 06:00:49.728
GOING ON, ALL THE SMALL

06:00:49.794 --> 06:00:51.496
BUSINESSES AND ALL THE BIG

06:00:51.563 --> 06:00:52.564
BUSINESSES THAT USE THIS. ALL

06:00:52.630 --> 06:00:53.665
OUR FRIENDS OVER THERE ARE

06:00:53.732 --> 06:00:54.733
WONDERFUL AND, YOU KNOW, JPL

06:00:54.799 --> 06:00:55.800
SPACE, EVERYONE DOWN IN

06:00:55.867 --> 06:00:57.502
LIVERMORE AND ALL THE OTHER

06:00:57.569 --> 06:00:58.603
SMALL BUSINESSES ACROSS TO MAKE

06:00:58.670 --> 06:00:59.738
SURE THEY ALL SAW WHAT WAS

06:00:59.804 --> 06:01:01.539
GOING ON HERE TODAY. AND

06:01:01.606 --> 06:01:02.540
BECAUSE LAST WEEK, EVERYONE HAS

06:01:02.607 --> 06:01:03.608
ONE COLLECTIVE QUESTION FOR THE

06:01:03.675 --> 06:01:05.076
COMMITTEE IS THE ONLY REASON

06:01:05.143 --> 06:01:06.711
THIS BILL IS GOING FORWARD IS

06:01:06.778 --> 06:01:08.513
BECAUSE FIREARM IS IN THE TITLE,

06:01:08.580 --> 06:01:10.281
BECAUSE THIS IS A TECH BILL.

06:01:10.348 --> 06:01:11.449
THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT FIREARM

06:01:11.516 --> 06:01:13.284
PROTECTION IN HERE IN ANY

06:01:13.351 --> 06:01:14.853
CAPACITY. THERE'S ONE COMPANY

06:01:14.919 --> 06:01:16.121
ON THE PLANET THAT SUPPORTS

06:01:16.187 --> 06:01:17.222
THIS TECHNOLOGY, AND IT'S

06:01:17.288 --> 06:01:18.690
CALLED NHÀ. THEY BROUGHT THEIR

06:01:18.757 --> 06:01:20.091
SALESMAN HERE LAST WEEK TO TALK

06:01:20.158 --> 06:01:21.993
TO YOU ABOUT IT. WE'VE ALL USED

06:01:22.060 --> 06:01:23.361
THEIR TECHNOLOGY. IT DOES NOT

06:01:23.428 --> 06:01:24.496
WORK AND DO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

06:01:24.562 --> 06:01:26.097
IT DOES. WE'VE WE'VE USED THIS

06:01:26.164 --> 06:01:27.999
IN THIS SPACE AND IT COMES DOWN

06:01:28.066 --> 06:01:29.167
TO THE CORE THING. THERE'S A

06:01:29.234 --> 06:01:31.002
PEN ON YOUR DESKS THAT'S AN

06:01:31.069 --> 06:01:32.737
OBJECT THAT DOES NOT HAVE

06:01:32.804 --> 06:01:34.806
INTENT. NO OBJECT HAS INTENT.

06:01:34.873 --> 06:01:35.907
WE INSTILL INTENT. THAT COULD

06:01:35.974 --> 06:01:37.876
BE A PEN. IT COULD BE A

06:01:37.942 --> 06:01:39.144
TRACHEOTOMY TOOL. IT'S A TUBE.

06:01:39.210 --> 06:01:40.578
AND THE OTHER THING IS, LAST

06:01:40.645 --> 06:01:42.447
WEEK, THE AUTHOR OF THE BILL

06:01:42.514 --> 06:01:43.615
SAID THAT IF THIS TECHNOLOGY

06:01:43.681 --> 06:01:45.316
WAS POSSIBLE, IT WOULD NOT BE

06:01:45.383 --> 06:01:47.819
FOOLPROOF. ALSO, SHE SAID THAT

06:01:47.886 --> 06:01:49.354
THE GHOST GUN MAKING IS ILLEGAL

06:01:49.421 --> 06:01:50.588
ALREADY. IT'S ALREADY A CRIME

06:01:50.655 --> 06:01:52.157
TO DO THIS, SO THIS ISN'T

06:01:52.223 --> 06:01:53.525
REALLY ADDING ANYTHING NEW TO

06:01:53.591 --> 06:01:55.060
IT. AND THEN BRINGING UP NEW

06:01:55.126 --> 06:01:56.494
YORK, IT HAS NOT GONE INTO

06:01:56.561 --> 06:01:57.996
EFFECT IN NEW YORK. NEW YORK

06:01:58.063 --> 06:01:59.164
HAS AN AMENDMENT IN THEIR BILL

06:01:59.230 --> 06:02:00.899
THAT SAYS, IF THIS TECHNOLOGY

06:02:00.965 --> 06:02:02.133
IS PROVEN NOT TO BE POSSIBLE,

06:02:02.200 --> 06:02:03.835
WHICH IT'S NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE

06:02:03.902 --> 06:02:05.103
TO GO FURTHER DOWN THE LINE ON

06:02:05.170 --> 06:02:07.005
IT. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THAT

06:02:07.072 --> 06:02:08.907
AMENDMENT IN HERE TO GET OUT OF

06:02:08.973 --> 06:02:10.075
IT IN ANY CAPACITY. SO THAT'S

06:02:10.141 --> 06:02:11.976
WHERE I WANT TO LEAVE IT AT.

06:02:12.043 --> 06:02:13.244
AND I REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR

06:02:13.311 --> 06:02:14.913
TIME, AND I WHOLEHEARTEDLY VOTE

06:02:14.979 --> 06:02:16.181
NO ON THIS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:02:16.247 --> 06:02:18.016
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD

06:02:18.083 --> 06:02:19.384
LIKE TO TESTIFY IN OPPOSITION

06:02:19.451 --> 06:02:21.553
OR GIVE TESTIMONY? YES. MY NAME

06:02:21.619 --> 06:02:23.121
IS STEVE PETERSON. I'M A MEMBER

06:02:23.188 --> 06:02:25.590
OF THE DESIGN TEAM REPRESENTING

06:02:25.657 --> 06:02:27.392
THE WIDER OPEN SOURCE HOBBYIST

06:02:27.459 --> 06:02:28.860
3D PRINTER COMMUNITY. AND I

06:02:28.927 --> 06:02:30.662
JUST WANT TO ADD ON RECORD THE

06:02:30.728 --> 06:02:33.098
FOLLOWING ADDITIVE

06:02:33.164 --> 06:02:34.632
MANUFACTURING PROFESSIONALS,

06:02:34.699 --> 06:02:36.468
EDUCATORS AND STAKEHOLDERS.

06:02:36.534 --> 06:02:38.903
PRUSA RESEARCH PRINTED SOLID

06:02:38.970 --> 06:02:40.672
POLY MAKE MAGAZINE, MAKER FAIRE

06:02:40.738 --> 06:02:43.141
WEST 3D, NIKO INDUSTRIES, 3D

06:02:43.208 --> 06:02:45.043
PRINTING NERD, COCOA PRESS,

06:02:45.110 --> 06:02:47.112
MICRO SWISS GREEN GATE, 3D, LDO

06:02:47.178 --> 06:02:48.513
MOTORS. PROTO PLANT MAKERS OF

06:02:48.580 --> 06:02:51.483
PROTO PASTA MAKE GOOD 3D FUEL.

06:02:51.549 --> 06:02:53.651
PSORIATIC MONSTER CITY STUDIOS

06:02:53.718 --> 06:02:55.753
SLICE WORKS THINGS 3D

06:02:55.820 --> 06:02:58.690
ZELLERFELD FULLER FOUNDATION

06:02:58.756 --> 06:02:59.824
REPAIR, PRESERVATION GROUP,

06:02:59.891 --> 06:03:01.593
REPAIR PRESERVATION GROUP

06:03:01.659 --> 06:03:03.294
ACTION FUND OCH CREATE OCK

06:03:03.361 --> 06:03:05.597
MAKER FOUNDATION, MATTERHACKERS

06:03:05.663 --> 06:03:08.366
POLY MAKER, BIG B QUÊ BIG TREE

06:03:08.433 --> 06:03:10.502
TECH DOCTOR ADRIAN BREWER,

06:03:10.568 --> 06:03:12.670
JOSEPH PRUSA. DALE DOUGHERTY,

06:03:12.737 --> 06:03:14.439
MAXIM ZOLAN, JOEL TELLING,

06:03:14.506 --> 06:03:16.341
CLAYTON PARKER, BILL DORAN,

06:03:16.407 --> 06:03:20.712
GRANT POSNER, THANK YOU. THANK

06:03:20.778 --> 06:03:26.818
YOU VERY MUCH. AIDEN SANABRIA,

06:03:26.885 --> 06:03:29.354
DISABILITY ADVOCATE I THINK

06:03:29.420 --> 06:03:30.822
THERE'S A REAL POSSIBILITY FOR

06:03:30.889 --> 06:03:33.224
THIS BILL TO HAVE DISASTROUS

06:03:33.291 --> 06:03:34.359
CONSEQUENCES FOR DISABLED

06:03:34.425 --> 06:03:36.528
PEOPLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO SPARE

06:03:36.594 --> 06:03:37.962
PARTS, TO REPAIR THEIR

06:03:38.029 --> 06:03:39.497
ASSISTIVE TECHNOLOGIES. THANK

06:03:39.564 --> 06:03:44.469
YOU VERY MUCH. HELLO, EVERYONE.

06:03:44.536 --> 06:03:46.171
MY NAME IS CLAIRE ARMOR. I AM

06:03:46.237 --> 06:03:47.972
THE LEAD CHASSIS DEVELOPMENT

06:03:48.039 --> 06:03:50.208
ENGINEER FOR THE HORNET RACING

06:03:50.275 --> 06:03:52.010
TEAM AT SACRAMENTO STATE

06:03:52.076 --> 06:03:53.811
UNIVERSITY, WHERE WE DEVELOP A

06:03:53.878 --> 06:03:55.180
NEW INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE

06:03:55.246 --> 06:03:57.415
OPEN WHEEL RACE CAR EVERY YEAR.

06:03:57.482 --> 06:03:58.816
3D PRINTING TECHNOLOGY IS

06:03:58.883 --> 06:04:00.285
CRUCIAL TO MY WORK. SORRY, THIS

06:04:00.351 --> 06:04:02.387
IS A TIME I APOLOGIZE. I SHOULD

06:04:02.453 --> 06:04:03.788
HAVE SAID AT THE BEGINNING, BUT

06:04:03.855 --> 06:04:05.723
THIS IS THE TIME ONLY FOR YOUR

06:04:05.790 --> 06:04:07.859
NAME AND YOUR AFFILIATION AND

06:04:07.926 --> 06:04:08.927
WHETHER YOU'RE IN SUPPORT OR

06:04:08.993 --> 06:04:10.428
OPPOSED TO THE BILL. I STRONGLY

06:04:10.495 --> 06:04:12.130
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU SO

06:04:12.197 --> 06:04:13.965
MUCH. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

06:04:14.032 --> 06:04:16.901
MY NAME IS JOE. I'M WITH K¾T

06:04:16.968 --> 06:04:18.703
CONSULTING AND GÒM HAM RADIO

06:04:18.770 --> 06:04:21.105
CLUB AND PRINCIPAL OF NATIONAL

06:04:21.172 --> 06:04:24.042
SECURITY. I OPPOSE. THANK YOU.

06:04:24.108 --> 06:04:26.144
HI. MY NAME IS SERGEY SMALL,

06:04:26.211 --> 06:04:28.413
BORN AND RAISED SACRAMENTO. I'D

06:04:28.479 --> 06:04:30.715
I Y AND I AM HERE ON BEHALF OF

06:04:30.782 --> 06:04:32.483
MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS WHO COULD

06:04:32.550 --> 06:04:34.452
NOT ATTEND. I AM OPPOSED TO

06:04:34.519 --> 06:04:38.256
THIS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. HELLO,

06:04:38.323 --> 06:04:40.291
MY NAME IS DANIEL NASSER. I

06:04:40.358 --> 06:04:41.359
RESEARCH THE 3D PRINTING OF

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ORGANS FOR MEDICINE AND I

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DEEPLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK

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YOU. HI, MY NAME IS ALAN AND

06:04:48.600 --> 06:04:50.335
I'VE BEEN WORKING A DECADE IN

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RAPID PROTOTYPING AND

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COMMERCIAL RESEARCH. I STRONGLY

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OPPOSE THIS BILL AS WRITTEN.

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HI, MY

06:04:56.307 --> 06:04:58.109
NAME IS VICTOR PIEDRA. I'M JUST

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A PARENT AND RESIDENT OF DALY

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CITY, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:05:01.679 --> 06:05:03.214
THIS BILL FOR VARIETY OF

06:05:03.281 --> 06:05:04.649
REASONS. I'VE ALREADY

06:05:04.716 --> 06:05:05.750
EXPLICITLY EXPLAINED. THANK YOU,

06:05:05.817 --> 06:05:09.254
THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS

06:05:09.320 --> 06:05:10.488
CHRISTOPHER KEATON. I'M A

06:05:10.555 --> 06:05:11.656
LENOVO SALES TRAINING AND

06:05:11.723 --> 06:05:12.657
RELATIONSHIP SPECIALIST, AND I

06:05:12.724 --> 06:05:14.392
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:05:14.459 --> 06:05:17.328
THANK YOU. HI. MY NAME IS SEN

06:05:17.395 --> 06:05:18.396
LAURENCE HASTINGS. I'M A FREE

06:05:18.463 --> 06:05:19.464
SOFTWARE AND OPEN SOURCE

06:05:19.530 --> 06:05:20.565
HARDWARE ADVOCATE AND I

06:05:20.632 --> 06:05:22.300
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:05:22.367 --> 06:05:26.671
THANK YOU. JOEL SANCHEZ,

06:05:26.738 --> 06:05:28.106
SACRAMENTO COUNTY RESIDENT AND

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HOBBYIST, 3D PRINTER. I OPPOSE

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THIS BILL. HI, I'M RACHEL

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BHARADWAJ. I'M A RESIDENT OF

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SAN FRANCISCO, AND I VEHEMENTLY

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OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU,

06:05:38.549 --> 06:05:41.386
THANK YOU. HI. MY NAME IS PAUL

06:05:41.452 --> 06:05:43.221
ROTHSTEIN. I'M HERE AGAIN AFTER

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LAST WEEK, AND I STRONGLY

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OPPOSE THIS BILL ON FOURTH

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AMENDMENT GROUNDS, AT THE VERY

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LEAST. HELLO. MY NAME IS TYLER

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WOODWARD FROM BENICIA,

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CALIFORNIA. AND FOR ALL THE

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REASONS ALREADY LAID OUT, I

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ALSO VERY STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS

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BILL. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS

06:06:02.206 --> 06:06:03.741
RILEY O'CONNOR. I'M AN ENGINEER

06:06:03.808 --> 06:06:05.743
AND HOBBYIST. I AM OPPOSED TO

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THIS BILL. HI, MY NAME IS IRISH

06:06:09.547 --> 06:06:10.882
RANA, AND AS AN ENGINEERING

06:06:10.948 --> 06:06:12.383
STUDENT, I DEEPLY OPPOSE THIS

06:06:12.450 --> 06:06:16.354
BILL. THANK YOU. HI. MICHAEL

06:06:16.421 --> 06:06:17.989
HEBERT, ENGINEER AND SACRAMENTO

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COUNTY RESIDENT. AND I OPPOSE

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THIS. MY NAME IS JUSTIN PITA,

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SAC COUNTY RESIDENT AND LOCAL

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MAKER. AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL.

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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS

06:06:31.135 --> 06:06:33.304
AIDAN SIMMONS. AS A HOBBYIST, I

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DEEPLY OPPOSE THE BILL ON RIGHT

06:06:35.273 --> 06:06:37.642
TO REPAIR AND PRIVACY GROUNDS.

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THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ALEX

06:06:40.144 --> 06:06:41.179
ROSELLA. I'M AN OPEN SOURCE

06:06:41.245 --> 06:06:43.381
ADVOCATE. I OPPOSE THIS BILL.

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THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ALEX AND

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I'M AN OPEN SOURCE DEVELOPER.

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AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL. MY NAME

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IS JOSEPH JOEL, SACRAMENTO

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RESIDENT. I STRONGLY OPPOSE

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THIS BILL. MY NAME IS

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CHRISTOPHER HEIZER. I'M AN

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ENGINEER, PARENT AND RESIDENT

06:07:00.098 --> 06:07:01.399
OF SAN CARLOS, CALIFORNIA, AND

06:07:01.466 --> 06:07:06.037
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:07:06.104 --> 06:07:07.739
ANTHONY GARCIA I WORK IN

06:07:07.805 --> 06:07:09.040
PRODUCTION. I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:07:09.107 --> 06:07:13.277
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. SEAN. I

06:07:13.344 --> 06:07:14.746
OWN WARBIRD TECHNOLOGIES AND

06:07:14.812 --> 06:07:15.747
INDUSTRIAL 3D PRINTER

06:07:15.813 --> 06:07:17.281
MANUFACTURING COMPANY. MY

06:07:17.348 --> 06:07:18.383
COMPANY IS EXEMPT FROM THIS

06:07:18.449 --> 06:07:19.917
BILL GIVEN THE INDUSTRIES WE

06:07:19.984 --> 06:07:21.486
SELL TO. WE OPPOSE THIS BILL

06:07:21.552 --> 06:07:24.522
REGARDLESS. THANK YOU. HELLO.

06:07:24.589 --> 06:07:25.523
AARON TURNER, ENGINEERING

06:07:25.590 --> 06:07:27.358
STUDENT AT COLLEGE. AND I

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OPPOSE THIS BILL. HI. GABRIEL

06:07:30.695 --> 06:07:31.662
CHANG, SACRAMENTO CITIZEN, ON

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THE GROUNDS OF THE FOURTH

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AMENDMENT. I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:07:33.998 --> 06:07:37.301
THIS BILL. MY NAME IS JOHN

06:07:37.368 --> 06:07:38.436
PENNELL. I'M A MEMBER OF THE

06:07:38.503 --> 06:07:39.904
DESIGN GROUP AND GENERALLY OPEN

06:07:39.971 --> 06:07:41.672
SOURCE COMMUNITY, AS WELL AS AN

06:07:41.739 --> 06:07:43.808
ENGINEER AND EDUCATOR. I

06:07:43.875 --> 06:07:47.044
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

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HELLO. MY NAME IS NATHAN GROVES.

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I AM AN INDUSTRIAL DESIGN

06:07:49.947 --> 06:07:52.083
STUDENT AT SAN FRANCISCO STATE

06:07:52.150 --> 06:07:53.885
UNIVERSITY, AND A FORMER AIR

06:07:53.951 --> 06:07:55.119
FORCE. STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS

06:07:55.186 --> 06:07:57.588
BILL. FOR THE SAKE OF MY FUTURE.

06:07:57.655 --> 06:08:01.626
THANK YOU. HELLO, I'M BENJAMIN

06:08:01.692 --> 06:08:03.661
NEVAREZ, PRIVATE CITIZEN, A

06:08:03.728 --> 06:08:04.729
SACRAMENTO RESIDENT, AND I

06:08:04.796 --> 06:08:06.297
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS

06:08:06.364 --> 06:08:07.632
MANUFACTURING CONTROL BILL ON

06:08:07.698 --> 06:08:09.467
FOURTH AMENDMENT GROUNDS. THANK

06:08:09.534 --> 06:08:13.004
YOU, THANK YOU. HELLO. I'M

06:08:13.070 --> 06:08:14.439
DOCTOR NATHANIEL DE LOS SANTOS.

06:08:14.505 --> 06:08:15.540
I REPRESENT MYSELF AS A 3D

06:08:15.606 --> 06:08:17.008
PRINTING HOBBYIST AND AUTHOR OF

06:08:17.074 --> 06:08:18.776
OPEN SOURCE SOFTWARE, NOT MY

06:08:18.843 --> 06:08:21.279
EMPLOYER. I OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:08:21.345 --> 06:08:23.781
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. HI. MY

06:08:23.848 --> 06:08:25.216
NAME IS LOUIS ROSSMANN FROM

06:08:25.283 --> 06:08:26.684
ROSSMANN REPAIR GROUP, FULLER

06:08:26.751 --> 06:08:27.652
FOUNDATION REPAIR PRESERVATION

06:08:27.718 --> 06:08:28.753
GROUP. AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:08:28.820 --> 06:08:30.321
THIS BILL. AND THE BILLIONAIRE

06:08:30.388 --> 06:08:33.658
WHO'S BEEN FUNDING IT. HELLO.

06:08:33.724 --> 06:08:35.293
MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER KRAMER.

06:08:35.359 --> 06:08:36.828
I'M AN INSTRUCTOR. I'M AN

06:08:36.894 --> 06:08:38.563
INSTRUCTOR AT MAKERSPACE, AND

06:08:38.629 --> 06:08:39.797
I'M A STUDENT AT SACRAMENTO

06:08:39.864 --> 06:08:41.098
STATE, PART OF AEROSPACE CLUB,

06:08:41.165 --> 06:08:42.500
COMPETITIVE ROBOTICS CLUB AND

06:08:42.567 --> 06:08:44.302
BAJA SEA CLUB. I'M A STUDENT

06:08:44.368 --> 06:08:45.436
MEMBER OF SOCIETY OF

06:08:45.503 --> 06:08:46.404
MANUFACTURING ENGINEERS,

06:08:46.471 --> 06:08:47.438
AMERICAN SOCIETY OF

06:08:47.505 --> 06:08:50.007
MANUFACTURING ENGINEERS, AND

06:08:50.074 --> 06:08:51.809
AMERICAN SOCIETY OF MECHANICAL

06:08:51.876 --> 06:08:52.877
ENGINEERS. AND I STRONGLY

06:08:52.944 --> 06:08:54.712
SUPPORT YOU SAYING NO TO THIS

06:08:54.779 --> 06:08:56.180
BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

06:08:56.247 --> 06:08:57.982
BLOOMBERG. APPARENTLY, MY NAME

06:08:58.049 --> 06:08:59.383
IS BENJAMIN PHILLIPS. I'M A

06:08:59.450 --> 06:09:00.885
HOBBYIST. I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:09:00.952 --> 06:09:05.523
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. HI, LIZ

06:09:05.590 --> 06:09:07.058
GUTIERREZ, REGISTERING

06:09:07.124 --> 06:09:08.426
OPPOSITION ON BEHALF OF THE

06:09:08.493 --> 06:09:09.994
ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION

06:09:10.061 --> 06:09:13.130
AND OAKLAND PRIVACY. THANK YOU.

06:09:13.197 --> 06:09:15.366
GO AHEAD. HI, MY NAME IS JOHN

06:09:15.433 --> 06:09:16.701
HANNAH AND I'M A SACRAMENTO

06:09:16.767 --> 06:09:18.269
NATIVE, AND FOR 30 YEARS I'VE

06:09:18.336 --> 06:09:19.270
WORKED PROFESSIONALLY AS AN

06:09:19.337 --> 06:09:21.472
EDITOR. AND SO I CAREFULLY READ

06:09:21.539 --> 06:09:23.174
THIS BILL AND I CAREFULLY READ

06:09:23.241 --> 06:09:24.976
ALL OF THE SUPPORTING MATERIALS

06:09:25.042 --> 06:09:26.410
THAT CAME ALONG WITH THIS BILL.

06:09:26.477 --> 06:09:27.979
AND I'M HOPING THAT YOU ALL

06:09:28.045 --> 06:09:29.046
ALSO READ IT CAREFULLY. AND

06:09:29.113 --> 06:09:31.015
WHAT I FOUND IS THAT THERE ARE

06:09:31.082 --> 06:09:32.183
STATEMENTS OF FACT. IF YOU

06:09:32.250 --> 06:09:35.086
COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND

06:09:35.152 --> 06:09:36.587
YOUR AFFILIATIONS AND WHETHER

06:09:36.654 --> 06:09:38.256
YOU SUPPORT OR OPPOSE THE BILL,

06:09:38.322 --> 06:09:40.491
I'M OPPOSED TO THE BILL DUE TO

06:09:40.558 --> 06:09:42.426
THE FACT THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN

06:09:42.493 --> 06:09:44.729
WRITTEN WITH CARE TOWARDS FACT

06:09:44.795 --> 06:09:50.201
IN REPORTING. THANK YOU. HI, MY

06:09:50.268 --> 06:09:51.903
NAME IS EVAN BUTTIMER. I'M A

06:09:51.969 --> 06:09:52.904
PROFESSIONAL MUSICIAN. I PLAY

06:09:52.970 --> 06:09:54.138
WITH THE SACRAMENTO

06:09:54.205 --> 06:09:55.740
PHILHARMONIC AND THE STOCKTON

06:09:55.806 --> 06:09:56.641
SYMPHONY, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:09:56.707 --> 06:10:01.145
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. HI, MY

06:10:01.212 --> 06:10:02.713
NAME IS ROLANDO JAVIER. I AM A

06:10:02.780 --> 06:10:03.881
COMPUTER ENGINEER IN THE

06:10:03.948 --> 06:10:05.583
ENTERPRISE SOFTWARE INDUSTRY

06:10:05.650 --> 06:10:07.151
AND IN SUPPORT OF PROTECTING

06:10:07.218 --> 06:10:08.286
PRIVACY AND CONSUMER RIGHTS. I

06:10:08.352 --> 06:10:09.954
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:10:10.021 --> 06:10:13.591
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. STEWART

06:10:13.658 --> 06:10:14.959
HASTINGS, READING, RETIRED

06:10:15.026 --> 06:10:21.499
COMPUTER ENGINEER. I'M OPPOSED.

06:10:21.566 --> 06:10:23.401
HELLO. MY NAME IS KYLE MCKENNA.

06:10:23.467 --> 06:10:25.503
I'M A ADVANCED MANUFACTURING

06:10:25.570 --> 06:10:26.938
AND MECHATRONICS STUDENT AT

06:10:27.004 --> 06:10:30.141
SIERRA COLLEGE. I OPPOSE THANK

06:10:30.207 --> 06:10:34.111
YOU. HI. MY NAME IS JEREMY. I'M

06:10:34.178 --> 06:10:35.913
HERE WITH MY DAUGHTER. I'M A

06:10:35.980 --> 06:10:37.281
SOFTWARE ENGINEER AND A FORMER

06:10:37.348 --> 06:10:39.517
FORMER CHILD CARE PROVIDER.

06:10:39.584 --> 06:10:40.918
WE'RE VERY BUSY, BUT NOT SO

06:10:40.985 --> 06:10:42.820
BUSY THAT WE CAN'T COME HERE

06:10:42.887 --> 06:10:43.988
AND STATE OUR DISAPPROVAL OF

06:10:44.055 --> 06:10:44.956
THIS BILL. PLEASE DO NOT

06:10:45.022 --> 06:10:46.724
SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. THANK

06:10:46.791 --> 06:10:47.825
YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR

06:10:47.892 --> 06:10:49.026
BRINGING YOUR DAUGHTER. MY NAME

06:10:49.093 --> 06:10:50.928
IS JAMES WONG. I'M A MECHANICAL

06:10:50.995 --> 06:10:51.963
ENGINEER, A USER OF 3D PRINTERS,

06:10:52.029 --> 06:10:53.364
BOTH PROFESSIONALLY AND

06:10:53.431 --> 06:10:54.699
PERSONALLY AND A DEMOCRAT. I

06:10:54.765 --> 06:10:56.133
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:10:56.200 --> 06:10:59.270
THANK YOU. KEN THOMAS. ON

06:10:59.337 --> 06:11:00.638
BEHALF OF LAW ABIDING CITIZENS

06:11:00.705 --> 06:11:02.306
WHO VALUE THEIR PRIVACY, I

06:11:02.373 --> 06:11:06.043
OPPOSE. THANK YOU. HI. MY NAME

06:11:06.110 --> 06:11:07.778
IS WARREN AND I'M A RESIDENT OF

06:11:07.845 --> 06:11:08.779
SACRAMENTO, AND I STRONGLY

06:11:08.846 --> 06:11:12.984
OPPOSE THIS BILL. MY NAME IS

06:11:13.050 --> 06:11:14.385
JUSTINE JOHNSON. I CAME OUT

06:11:14.452 --> 06:11:15.653
HERE ALL THE WAY FROM PATTERSON,

06:11:15.720 --> 06:11:17.388
CALIFORNIA, AND I CAME HERE TO

06:11:17.455 --> 06:11:19.557
OPPOSE BILL 2047, AS I BELIEVE

06:11:19.624 --> 06:11:21.459
IT IS AN INVASION OF PRIVACY

06:11:21.525 --> 06:11:22.727
AND COULD BE VERY PROBLEMATIC

06:11:22.793 --> 06:11:24.895
FOR BUSINESSES WHO USE UTILIZE

06:11:24.962 --> 06:11:29.233
3D PRINTERS. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

06:11:29.300 --> 06:11:30.601
GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS

06:11:30.668 --> 06:11:33.237
FINNEGAN ANDREWS. I AM AN IT

06:11:33.304 --> 06:11:34.572
TECHNICIAN IN K-12 PUBLIC

06:11:34.639 --> 06:11:36.607
SCHOOLS IN WASHINGTON STATE,

06:11:36.674 --> 06:11:38.576
AND I AM HERE TODAY TO OPPOSE

06:11:38.643 --> 06:11:40.478
AB 2047 FOR THE WAYS IN WHICH

06:11:40.544 --> 06:11:42.480
IT WILL WEAKEN FIRST AND FOURTH

06:11:42.546 --> 06:11:43.981
AMENDMENT PROTECTIONS. THANK

06:11:44.048 --> 06:11:48.319
YOU VERY MUCH. HI. MY NAME IS

06:11:48.386 --> 06:11:49.553
JOSEPH. I'M AN IT SPECIALIST.

06:11:49.620 --> 06:11:51.355
AND ON BEHALF OF THE SECOND AND

06:11:51.422 --> 06:11:52.423
FOURTH AMENDMENT, I OPPOSE THIS

06:11:52.490 --> 06:11:55.559
BILL. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

06:11:55.626 --> 06:11:57.261
HELLO. KEVIN GUZMAN FROM

06:11:57.328 --> 06:11:58.696
VALLEJO, CALIFORNIA. AND ON

06:11:58.763 --> 06:12:00.064
BEHALF OF THE FOURTH AMENDMENT

06:12:00.131 --> 06:12:01.399
AND RIGHT TO REPAIR, I OPPOSE

06:12:01.465 --> 06:12:07.338
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. HOWDY,

06:12:07.405 --> 06:12:09.507
Y'ALL. I AM JEFFREY COSIO, AND

06:12:09.573 --> 06:12:11.042
I AM A SOFTWARE DEVELOPER. AND

06:12:11.108 --> 06:12:13.177
I OPPOSE THIS BILL FOR THE

06:12:13.244 --> 06:12:14.545
SECOND AMENDMENT AND THE FOURTH

06:12:14.612 --> 06:12:16.447
AMENDMENT FOR A RIGHT TO REPAIR.

06:12:16.514 --> 06:12:21.018
THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS

06:12:21.085 --> 06:12:22.553
MICHAEL HOOSER. I'M FROM

06:12:22.620 --> 06:12:23.721
RIVERSIDE, CALIFORNIA, AND I

06:12:23.788 --> 06:12:26.757
STRONGLY OPPOSE AB 2047. THANK

06:12:26.824 --> 06:12:30.528
YOU. HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS

06:12:30.594 --> 06:12:32.263
KOBE CLARK. I'M A VACAVILLE

06:12:32.329 --> 06:12:33.698
RESIDENT AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:12:33.764 --> 06:12:37.535
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

06:12:37.601 --> 06:12:39.403
JASON NORTH, SACRAMENTO LOCAL

06:12:39.470 --> 06:12:40.304
COLLEGE STUDENT, COMPUTER

06:12:40.371 --> 06:12:41.605
SCIENCE MAJOR. I STRONGLY

06:12:41.672 --> 06:12:44.108
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.

06:12:44.175 --> 06:12:47.678
THANK YOU SO MUCH. GOOD EVENING.

06:12:47.745 --> 06:12:49.547
I'M NICHOLAS TANK. I'M AN

06:12:49.613 --> 06:12:50.548
ELECTRONICS TECHNICIAN AND A

06:12:50.614 --> 06:12:52.483
LAW ABIDING 3D PRINTER USER.

06:12:52.550 --> 06:12:57.154
AND I OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:12:57.221 --> 06:12:59.490
FLETCHER DUBAY, 16TH DISTRICT

06:12:59.557 --> 06:13:03.494
CONSTITUENT, STRONGLY OPPOSE.

06:13:03.561 --> 06:13:05.229
MY NAME IS HANSON DUBÉ. I'M AN

06:13:05.296 --> 06:13:06.330
ANALYTICAL CHEMIST RESIDING IN

06:13:06.397 --> 06:13:07.765
WALNUT CREEK, CALIFORNIA, AND I

06:13:07.832 --> 06:13:09.600
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:13:09.667 --> 06:13:13.537
THANK YOU. I'M NICK. EXCUSE ME.

06:13:13.604 --> 06:13:16.040
I'M NICHOLAS DORN. I'M CREATING

06:13:16.107 --> 06:13:18.909
A 3D PRINTER ASSEMBLY COMPANY,

06:13:18.976 --> 06:13:20.444
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL

06:13:20.511 --> 06:13:22.213
FOR REASONS OF DESTRUCTION OF

06:13:22.279 --> 06:13:25.082
MY COMPANY IN ADVANCE. THANK

06:13:25.149 --> 06:13:28.986
YOU. MATTHEW CONNOLLY, FORMER

06:13:29.053 --> 06:13:30.488
ARMY RANGER, CURRENT COMPUTER

06:13:30.554 --> 06:13:31.922
ENGINEER AND ENTREPRENEUR.

06:13:31.989 --> 06:13:36.127
OPPOSE. MY NAME IS NATHANIEL

06:13:36.193 --> 06:13:37.695
LEWIS. I'M A SOFTWARE ENGINEER

06:13:37.762 --> 06:13:38.629
RESIDING IN SAN FRANCISCO, AND

06:13:38.696 --> 06:13:40.164
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:13:40.231 --> 06:13:44.101
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BRANDON

06:13:44.168 --> 06:13:45.269
LANGDON, AND I, AS A 12 YEAR

06:13:45.336 --> 06:13:46.337
PROFESSIONAL AND EXPERT IN

06:13:46.403 --> 06:13:47.438
ADDITIVE MANUFACTURING AT A

06:13:47.505 --> 06:13:48.472
NATIONAL LAB, A SEVENTH

06:13:48.539 --> 06:13:49.573
GENERATION LIVERMORE

06:13:49.640 --> 06:13:50.608
CONSTITUENT AND VOTER FOR

06:13:50.674 --> 06:13:51.709
ASSEMBLY MEMBER BAUER KHN

06:13:51.776 --> 06:13:54.245
OPPOSED THIS BILL. THANK YOU.

06:13:54.311 --> 06:13:55.913
MY NAME IS JUSTIN LASHINSKY.

06:13:55.980 --> 06:13:57.782
I'M A PRODUCT DESIGN CONSULTANT

06:13:57.848 --> 06:13:59.283
AND INVENTOR IN PALO ALTO, AND

06:13:59.350 --> 06:14:03.788
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. MY

06:14:03.854 --> 06:14:07.758
NAME IS SARAH WEST. I AM A

06:14:07.825 --> 06:14:09.894
RESIDENT OF BERKELEY AND A

06:14:09.960 --> 06:14:11.428
CONSTITUENT OF THE CHAIR. I AM

06:14:11.495 --> 06:14:14.598
HERE WITH MY SON, CAITLYN, AND

06:14:14.665 --> 06:14:16.100
WE ARE SMALL. MY. MY HUSBAND

06:14:16.167 --> 06:14:17.334
AND I ARE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS.

06:14:17.401 --> 06:14:18.602
WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:14:18.669 --> 06:14:20.204
IT WILL NOT MAKE OUR CHILDREN

06:14:20.271 --> 06:14:22.039
SAFER. IT'S A. IT'S A WASTE OF

06:14:22.106 --> 06:14:23.107
RESOURCES WITH NO HOPE OF

06:14:23.174 --> 06:14:24.241
SUCCESS. IT WILL JUST CREATE

06:14:24.308 --> 06:14:26.777
NEW PROBLEMS. MY NAME IS

06:14:26.844 --> 06:14:28.979
CAITLYN WEST. I'M A RESIDENT OF

06:14:29.046 --> 06:14:30.848
BERKELEY, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:14:30.915 --> 06:14:32.550
THIS BILL BECAUSE I THINK IT

06:14:32.616 --> 06:14:33.784
WILL CREATE MORE PROBLEMS THAN

06:14:33.851 --> 06:14:35.986
IT HAS A CHANCE TO SOLVE. THANK

06:14:36.053 --> 06:14:39.790
YOU SO MUCH. AN OAKLAND BASED

06:14:39.857 --> 06:14:41.258
MANUFACTURING ENGINEER AND

06:14:41.325 --> 06:14:44.094
BOARD MEMBER AT AN EDUCATION

06:14:44.161 --> 06:14:45.596
NONPROFIT WORKING WITH OAKLAND

06:14:45.663 --> 06:14:46.997
UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT TO

06:14:47.064 --> 06:14:48.432
TEACH 3D PRINTING TO

06:14:48.499 --> 06:14:50.234
UNDERSERVED YOUTH. IF YOU CARE

06:14:50.301 --> 06:14:51.869
ABOUT EDUCATION, YOU WILL JOIN

06:14:51.936 --> 06:14:53.871
ME IN STRONGLY OPPOSING THIS

06:14:53.938 --> 06:14:57.741
BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY.

06:14:57.808 --> 06:14:59.610
COME ON. WHEN I STARTED, 3D

06:14:59.677 --> 06:15:02.179
PRINTING MACHINES COST $200,000.

06:15:02.246 --> 06:15:04.648
NOW MACHINES ARE BUILT FOR 200.

06:15:04.715 --> 06:15:06.217
NOW KIDS ARE BUILDING MACHINES

06:15:06.283 --> 06:15:08.619
FOR $200 FROM KITS, WHICH ALLOW

06:15:08.686 --> 06:15:10.221
THEM TO BUILD THE SKILLS THEY

06:15:10.287 --> 06:15:11.355
NEED TO REPAIR THEM, USE THEM,

06:15:11.422 --> 06:15:13.224
AND DESIGN FOR THEM. THIS BILL

06:15:13.290 --> 06:15:14.458
WILL BE THAT WAY. DON'T MAKE ME

06:15:14.525 --> 06:15:16.927
USE THIS. PLEASE. I STRONGLY

06:15:16.994 --> 06:15:19.830
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU. I

06:15:19.897 --> 06:15:21.932
WILL USE MY PHONE. HELLO. I'M A

06:15:21.999 --> 06:15:23.467
RETIRED GRANDMA AND I'M HERE TO

06:15:23.534 --> 06:15:25.870
SUPPORT MY SON AND MY THREE

06:15:25.936 --> 06:15:28.372
SONS. AND THEY'RE ALL IN THIS

06:15:28.439 --> 06:15:29.874
TECHNOLOGY. AND I WOULD LIKE

06:15:29.940 --> 06:15:32.476
VERY MUCH TO OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:15:32.543 --> 06:15:34.078
MY NAME IS MARY PASCOE. I'M

06:15:34.144 --> 06:15:35.579
FROM ROCKLAND, CALIFORNIA.

06:15:35.646 --> 06:15:38.215
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:15:38.282 --> 06:15:40.684
MY NAME IS JASON GALDI. I

06:15:40.751 --> 06:15:42.419
VEHEMENTLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:15:42.486 --> 06:15:46.257
AND THE TECHNOCRAT PARASITES

06:15:46.323 --> 06:15:48.092
AND FINANCIERS WHO THINK THAT

06:15:48.158 --> 06:15:50.027
THEY CAN SHAPE A PANOPTICON

06:15:50.094 --> 06:15:51.762
TECH DYSTOPIA FOR ALL OF US.

06:15:51.829 --> 06:15:54.365
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

06:15:54.431 --> 06:15:55.766
MY NAME IS MILA MCCONLOGUE.

06:15:55.833 --> 06:15:57.368
WHEN I WAS NINE YEARS OLD, I

06:15:57.434 --> 06:15:58.602
BUILT MY FIRST 3D PRINTER, AND

06:15:58.669 --> 06:16:00.037
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:16:00.104 --> 06:16:02.940
THANK YOU SO MUCH. MY NAME IS

06:16:03.007 --> 06:16:04.375
ANDREW CONSIGLIO. I 3D PRINT

06:16:04.441 --> 06:16:05.809
FIDGET TOYS FOR MY AUTISTIC

06:16:05.876 --> 06:16:06.944
WIFE, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:16:07.011 --> 06:16:11.015
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. MY NAME

06:16:11.081 --> 06:16:12.683
IS GLEN GILL. I AM TRYING TO

06:16:12.750 --> 06:16:14.084
START A COMPANY THAT RELIES ON

06:16:14.151 --> 06:16:15.653
3D PRINTING AND WOULD BE UNABLE

06:16:15.719 --> 06:16:17.554
TO DO SO IF THIS BILL PASSES. I

06:16:17.621 --> 06:16:18.889
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:16:18.956 --> 06:16:23.427
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS

06:16:23.494 --> 06:16:25.262
AISHA BURNS. I'M A MEDICAL

06:16:25.329 --> 06:16:26.730
PHYSICIST, AND I USE 3D

06:16:26.797 --> 06:16:29.900
PRINTING TO TREAT CANCER, AND I

06:16:29.967 --> 06:16:31.702
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU SO

06:16:31.769 --> 06:16:35.005
MUCH. HELLO. MY NAME IS HUNTER

06:16:35.072 --> 06:16:36.740
LIGETI AND I'M AN ASPIRING

06:16:36.807 --> 06:16:37.641
MANUFACTURER, AND I STRONGLY

06:16:37.708 --> 06:16:41.979
OPPOSE THIS BILL. MY NAME IS

06:16:42.046 --> 06:16:44.715
TOM D'URSO. I OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:16:44.782 --> 06:16:45.816
MY BUSINESS IS GOING TO BE

06:16:45.883 --> 06:16:47.885
RELATED TO 3D PRINTING AND THE

06:16:47.952 --> 06:16:51.588
DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

06:16:51.655 --> 06:16:52.756
MY NAME IS CHRISTOPHER MARTINEZ.

06:16:52.823 --> 06:16:54.458
I'M A MATERIAL PHYSICIST AND I

06:16:54.525 --> 06:16:56.226
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:16:56.293 --> 06:16:59.463
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ADRIN

06:16:59.530 --> 06:17:00.497
MCCARTHY. I'M A SOFTWARE

06:17:00.564 --> 06:17:01.265
ENGINEER FROM HAYWARD,

06:17:01.332 --> 06:17:02.700
CALIFORNIA, AND A MEMBER OF THE

06:17:02.766 --> 06:17:04.201
NORTHERN CALIFORNIA HUNTERS

06:17:04.268 --> 06:17:05.235
GROUP, AND WE STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:17:05.302 --> 06:17:09.273
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. MY NAME

06:17:09.340 --> 06:17:10.674
IS DANIEL WATSON. I'M FROM

06:17:10.741 --> 06:17:12.776
FREMONT, CALIFORNIA, AND I DO

06:17:12.843 --> 06:17:14.645
COMPUTER SCIENCE TUTORING AND

06:17:14.712 --> 06:17:16.380
TEACH PEOPLE USING 3D PRINTERS

06:17:16.447 --> 06:17:18.382
A LOT. AND I URGE YOU TO VOTE

06:17:18.449 --> 06:17:21.719
AGAINST THIS BILL. THANK YOU.

06:17:21.785 --> 06:17:24.021
MY NAME IS LUKE BISHAI

06:17:24.088 --> 06:17:25.756
REPRESENTING WPM SOFTWARE

06:17:25.823 --> 06:17:27.191
DESIGN, A KEYBOARD DESIGN

06:17:27.257 --> 06:17:28.492
COMPANY IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

06:17:28.559 --> 06:17:30.327
AND I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO

06:17:30.394 --> 06:17:31.462
AGAINST THIS BILL. THANK YOU SO

06:17:31.528 --> 06:17:33.731
MUCH. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS

06:17:33.797 --> 06:17:34.732
JACOB BERTRAND, RESIDENT OF

06:17:34.798 --> 06:17:36.567
DAVIS AND UNCLE, AN ELECTRICAL

06:17:36.633 --> 06:17:37.101
ENGINEERING STUDENT AND A

06:17:37.167 --> 06:17:38.369
FORMER MEMBER OF A NATIONAL

06:17:38.435 --> 06:17:39.703
LEVEL DAVIS BASED ROBOTICS TEAM,

06:17:39.770 --> 06:17:41.271
WHICH RELIES ON FREE AND OPEN

06:17:41.338 --> 06:17:42.339
SOURCE 3D PRINTING SOFTWARE.

06:17:42.406 --> 06:17:44.441
AND I RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THIS

06:17:44.508 --> 06:17:48.545
BILL. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME

06:17:48.612 --> 06:17:50.247
IS BECK FORTIER. I'M A

06:17:50.314 --> 06:17:51.448
MECHANICAL ENGINEERING STUDENT

06:17:51.515 --> 06:17:53.150
AT UC DAVIS, AND I REGULARLY

06:17:53.217 --> 06:17:54.985
USE 3D PRINTING BOTH IN AND OUT

06:17:55.052 --> 06:17:56.620
OF THE CLASSROOM SETTING. AND I

06:17:56.687 --> 06:17:57.855
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:17:57.921 --> 06:18:03.160
THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS

06:18:03.227 --> 06:18:05.362
ATHENA ROWE. I'M A COMPUTER

06:18:05.429 --> 06:18:06.830
SCIENCE STUDENT FROM WEST

06:18:06.897 --> 06:18:09.400
SACRAMENTO, AND I STRONGLY

06:18:09.466 --> 06:18:13.270
OPPOSE THIS BILL. MY NAME IS

06:18:13.337 --> 06:18:14.705
MUSTAFA AZHAR. I'M A MONTEREY

06:18:14.772 --> 06:18:16.040
COUNTY RESIDENT CONSTITUENT,

06:18:16.106 --> 06:18:17.207
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL

06:18:17.274 --> 06:18:19.009
ON FIRST AND FOURTH AMENDMENT

06:18:19.076 --> 06:18:23.313
GROUNDS. THANK YOU. HELLO. MY

06:18:23.380 --> 06:18:25.482
NAME IS ALEXANDER POPOV AND I

06:18:25.549 --> 06:18:27.985
AM A PHYSICS STUDENT AND AN

06:18:28.052 --> 06:18:29.119
OBSERVATORY VOLUNTEER THAT

06:18:29.186 --> 06:18:30.888
RELIES ON 3D PRINTERS TO

06:18:30.954 --> 06:18:32.289
MAINTAIN THEIR SCOPES. I

06:18:32.356 --> 06:18:33.323
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:18:33.390 --> 06:18:38.796
THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME IS OAN.

06:18:38.862 --> 06:18:40.597
I'M A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND

06:18:40.664 --> 06:18:41.665
RESIDENT OF HAYWARD AND I

06:18:41.732 --> 06:18:43.801
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:18:43.867 --> 06:18:46.437
THANK YOU. HI. HI, I'M JOHN

06:18:46.503 --> 06:18:48.138
LINK FROM RESIDENT OF FREMONT,

06:18:48.205 --> 06:18:51.842
AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:18:51.909 --> 06:18:53.410
HI, I'M CARMEN MAUK, RESIDENT

06:18:53.477 --> 06:18:55.112
OF BRIONES. I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:18:55.179 --> 06:18:58.715
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. HI. MY

06:18:58.782 --> 06:19:00.818
NAME IS JAMES GRINDELL. I'M A

06:19:00.884 --> 06:19:03.253
SOFTWARE DEVELOPER, YOLO COUNTY

06:19:03.320 --> 06:19:04.354
RESIDENT, AND I STRONGLY OPPOSE

06:19:04.421 --> 06:19:08.292
THIS BILL. HI, I'M JACOB KHÎI,

06:19:08.358 --> 06:19:09.860
A RESIDENT OF SAN FRANCISCO

06:19:09.927 --> 06:19:10.861
COUNTY. I'M AN ELECTRICAL

06:19:10.928 --> 06:19:11.695
ENGINEER THAT WORKS IN THE

06:19:11.762 --> 06:19:12.830
PHARMA INDUSTRY, AND I STRONGLY

06:19:12.896 --> 06:19:18.802
OPPOSE THIS BILL. HELLO, MY

06:19:18.869 --> 06:19:20.671
NAME IS LOGAN HORGA. I'M A

06:19:20.737 --> 06:19:21.738
CONSTITUENT OF DIXON,

06:19:21.805 --> 06:19:22.773
CALIFORNIA, AND A REGISTERED

06:19:22.840 --> 06:19:24.775
DEMOCRATIC VOTER. AS A COMPUTER

06:19:24.842 --> 06:19:26.076
SCIENCE STUDENT AND A SOFTWARE

06:19:26.143 --> 06:19:27.444
LEADER OF COMPETITIVE ROBOTICS

06:19:27.511 --> 06:19:29.012
AT SACRAMENTO STATE AND FOR

06:19:29.079 --> 06:19:30.547
OTHER SMALL MAKERSPACES ACROSS

06:19:30.614 --> 06:19:31.782
THE STATE THAT DON'T HAVE A

06:19:31.849 --> 06:19:33.183
CUTOUT IN THIS BILL, I STRONGLY

06:19:33.250 --> 06:19:37.988
OPPOSE. THANK YOU. HI, MY NAME

06:19:38.055 --> 06:19:39.656
IS AMANDA GARCIA. I AM A

06:19:39.723 --> 06:19:41.425
STUDENT AT SAC STATE AND A 3D

06:19:41.492 --> 06:19:42.392
PRINTING ENTHUSIAST, AND I

06:19:42.459 --> 06:19:46.530
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS. THANK YOU.

06:19:46.597 --> 06:19:48.031
HI, I'M JONATHAN FREEMAN, I'M A

06:19:48.098 --> 06:19:49.566
HIGH SCHOOL STUDENT, AND I

06:19:49.633 --> 06:19:53.704
STRONGLY OPPOSE. THANK YOU.

06:19:53.770 --> 06:19:55.072
HELLO. MY NAME IS SCOTT SEAVER.

06:19:55.139 --> 06:19:56.607
I'M A MECHANICAL ENGINEER,

06:19:56.673 --> 06:19:58.675
LIFELONG CALIFORNIA RESIDENT,

06:19:58.742 --> 06:19:59.977
DEMOCRAT SUPPORTER OF EFFECTIVE

06:20:00.043 --> 06:20:01.245
GUN CONTROL. AND I STRONGLY

06:20:01.311 --> 06:20:05.582
OPPOSE THIS BILL. XAVIER PATTON,

06:20:05.649 --> 06:20:06.683
SACRAMENTO NATIVE AND

06:20:06.750 --> 06:20:07.718
ELECTRONICS ENGINEER. I'VE BEEN

06:20:07.784 --> 06:20:08.652
INVOLVED IN THE SACRAMENTO

06:20:08.719 --> 06:20:10.254
MAKER COMMUNITY SINCE I WAS A

06:20:10.320 --> 06:20:12.322
LITTLE KID. I AM IN STRONG

06:20:12.389 --> 06:20:17.127
OPPOSITION. HELLO. MY NAME IS.

06:20:17.194 --> 06:20:18.962
I AM AN UNAFFILIATED SANTA

06:20:19.029 --> 06:20:20.764
CLARA COUNTY RESIDENT AND I

06:20:20.831 --> 06:20:22.533
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:20:22.599 --> 06:20:25.802
THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ASHLEY

06:20:25.869 --> 06:20:27.604
DRAGOO. I AM A SACRAMENTO

06:20:27.671 --> 06:20:30.440
COUNTY RESIDENT AND I STRONGLY

06:20:30.507 --> 06:20:35.179
OPPOSE THIS BILL. NICK HIRANO,

06:20:35.245 --> 06:20:38.048
SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA. 3D

06:20:38.115 --> 06:20:39.850
PRINTING ENTHUSIASTS. I

06:20:39.917 --> 06:20:43.854
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. HI,

06:20:43.921 --> 06:20:45.889
I'M STEPHEN ESTES FROM MERCED,

06:20:45.956 --> 06:20:47.357
CALIFORNIA, AND I STRONGLY

06:20:47.424 --> 06:20:48.458
OPPOSE THIS BILL. AND HELLO,

06:20:48.525 --> 06:20:53.096
SENATOR CABALLERO. HELLO. I'M

06:20:53.163 --> 06:20:55.299
COURTNEY LACOUNT FROM RIPON,

06:20:55.365 --> 06:20:56.667
CALIFORNIA. I'M AN ARCADE GAME

06:20:56.733 --> 06:20:58.135
REPAIR TECHNICIAN AND I

06:20:58.202 --> 06:20:59.236
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:20:59.303 --> 06:21:03.140
THANK YOU. ANNIHILATE FROM

06:21:03.207 --> 06:21:04.274
LIVERMORE, CALIFORNIA,

06:21:04.341 --> 06:21:05.342
MECHANICAL ENGINEER. I STRONGLY

06:21:05.409 --> 06:21:08.979
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.

06:21:09.046 --> 06:21:11.515
HELLO. MY NAME IS HEDRICK. I

06:21:11.582 --> 06:21:12.716
DROVE SEVEN HOURS FROM DIAMOND

06:21:12.783 --> 06:21:14.384
BAR, L.A. COUNTY TO BE HERE TO

06:21:14.451 --> 06:21:15.786
SAY I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:21:15.852 --> 06:21:17.421
THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH

06:21:17.487 --> 06:21:19.723
FOR BEING HERE. HELLO. MY NAME

06:21:19.790 --> 06:21:21.391
IS BRANDON KENDRICK, A RESIDENT

06:21:21.458 --> 06:21:22.993
OF CITRUS HEIGHTS, CALIFORNIA.

06:21:23.060 --> 06:21:24.595
I'M A STAY AT HOME FATHER, AND

06:21:24.661 --> 06:21:25.862
I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:21:25.929 --> 06:21:29.099
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:21:29.166 --> 06:21:31.969
HELLO, I AM BEN WILHELM. I AM A

06:21:32.035 --> 06:21:33.604
PARENT AND A TEACHER IN AMADOR

06:21:33.670 --> 06:21:35.606
COUNTY, CALIFORNIA. FOR THE

06:21:35.672 --> 06:21:37.741
SAKE OF BOTH MY STUDENTS AND MY

06:21:37.808 --> 06:21:39.142
SON. I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS

06:21:39.209 --> 06:21:40.711
BILL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR

06:21:40.777 --> 06:21:43.480
BEING HERE. HELLO. MY NAME IS.

06:21:43.547 --> 06:21:45.616
HELLO. MY NAME IS GIDEON, AND I

06:21:45.682 --> 06:21:46.750
STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:21:46.817 --> 06:21:50.387
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:21:50.454 --> 06:21:52.155
HELLO. MY NAME IS ALEXANDER

06:21:52.222 --> 06:21:53.590
MAUGER. I'M A ROBOTICS AND

06:21:53.657 --> 06:21:55.058
AUTOMATION CONSULTANT

06:21:55.125 --> 06:21:56.059
REPRESENTING REDWOOD

06:21:56.126 --> 06:21:58.629
PROTOTYPING LLC, AND I STRONGLY

06:21:58.695 --> 06:22:01.865
OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU. HI,

06:22:01.932 --> 06:22:04.001
I'M DUANE MICHAEL, AND I DON'T

06:22:04.067 --> 06:22:06.536
REPRESENT ANYONE, BUT I OPPOSE

06:22:06.603 --> 06:22:07.537
THIS BILL AND I SUPPORT THE

06:22:07.604 --> 06:22:11.675
BILL OF RIGHTS. MY NAME IS TED.

06:22:11.742 --> 06:22:13.410
I REPRESENT THE AMERICAN RIVER

06:22:13.477 --> 06:22:14.911
COLLEGE ENGINEERING CLUB, AND

06:22:14.978 --> 06:22:16.680
WE STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL AS

06:22:16.747 --> 06:22:18.448
WELL AS CONNOR, WHO HAD TO

06:22:18.515 --> 06:22:19.516
LEAVE EARLY BUT WAS THE

06:22:19.583 --> 06:22:21.652
PRESIDENT OF THE COMPETITIVE

06:22:21.718 --> 06:22:23.887
ROBOTICS TEAM AT SAC STATE

06:22:23.954 --> 06:22:25.255
UNIVERSITY AND ALSO OPPOSES

06:22:25.322 --> 06:22:27.491
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

06:22:27.557 --> 06:22:30.394
VERY MUCH. CHRIS SMITH,

06:22:30.460 --> 06:22:31.795
SACRAMENTO COUNTY RESIDENT

06:22:31.862 --> 06:22:33.230
FINANCE ACCOUNTING PROFESSIONAL.

06:22:33.297 --> 06:22:36.800
I OPPOSE THIS BILL. THANK YOU.

06:22:36.867 --> 06:22:38.902
HELLO. ERIC BEHRENS, SACRAMENTO

06:22:38.969 --> 06:22:40.804
RESIDENT, CREATOR, FIXER AND

06:22:40.871 --> 06:22:42.105
TINKERER. I OPPOSE THIS BILL.

06:22:42.172 --> 06:22:46.476
THANK YOU. IAN MCCLELLAN. NOT

06:22:46.543 --> 06:22:48.278
AN ENTHUSIAST, BUT A CONCERNED

06:22:48.345 --> 06:22:51.148
COMPUTER ENGINEER. AND CONTRA

06:22:51.214 --> 06:22:52.716
COSTA COUNTY RESIDENT. I OPPOSE

06:22:52.783 --> 06:22:54.818
THIS BILL ON THE GROUNDS OF

06:22:54.885 --> 06:22:55.886
SUPPORTING THE CORPORATE

06:22:55.952 --> 06:22:57.688
INTRUSION INTO CREATIVITY AND

06:22:57.754 --> 06:23:02.392
STRUGGLING THEREOF. THANK YOU.

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HI, I'M HANNAH NELSON, A

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STUDENT FROM SANTA BARBARA, AND

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I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

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THANK YOU. DYLAN, ORANGEVILLE

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RESIDENT ARTIST. I OPPOSE THIS

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BILL ON GROUNDS OF FREEDOM OF

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EXPRESSION. THANK YOU. HI, I'M

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JAMES CANNON. I'M A BUSINESS

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OWNER, AND FOR THE LAST 37

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YEARS, I'VE BEEN AN IT

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PROFESSIONAL. I STRONGLY OPPOSE

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THIS BILL, AND I HOPE YOU GUYS

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DO AS WELL. NØ S¼ J PATEL I

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STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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MY NAME IS DANIEL MARTIN. I

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DROVE 400 MILES TO BE HERE

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TODAY FROM ORANGE COUNTY, AND I

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STRONGLY OPPOSE. THANK YOU. MY

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NAME IS CHASE ANDERSON VALLEJO,

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RESIDENT, EMBEDDED SECURITY

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DEVELOPER AND OPEN SOURCE

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ADVOCATE. I OPPOSE THIS BILL.

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THANK YOU. I'M AARON JAY, A

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SOFTWARE DEVELOPER FOR TWO

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DECADES AND MORE RECENTLY, A

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SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. I'M ALSO

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A CONSTITUENT OF THE BILL'S

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AUTHOR IN CONTRA COSTA COUNTY.

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I STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS

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TECHNICALLY UNWORKABLE,

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EXPENSIVE, AND INFEASIBLE BILL.

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THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS

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OMAR ABDULHADI. I'M A MEDICAL

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DOCTOR AND AN ENGINEER WORKING

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IN SACRAMENTO. I STRONGLY

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OPPOSE THIS BILL BECAUSE IT

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WOULD HAVE PREVENTED ME FROM

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SAVING LIVES DURING THE COVID

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PANDEMIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

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VERY MUCH. HI, DAVID BULLOCK,

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ON BEHALF OF THE SAN FERNANDO

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VALLEY CHAPTER OF THE

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CALIFORNIA PISTOL AND RIFLE

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ASSOCIATION, WE ARE IN

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OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. THANK

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YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? IT

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LOOKS LIKE WE ARE. WE HAVE I

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WAS GOING TO SAY, EXHAUSTED THE

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NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE,

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BUT I. I LITERALLY MEAN

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EXHAUSTED EVERYBODY. SO THAT

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CONCLUDES OUR TESTIMONY FOR

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TODAY. QUESTION. BRING IT BACK

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TO THE COMMITTEE FOR QUESTIONS

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OR. YES, SENATOR PEREZ. YES. SO

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I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS,

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AND I THINK IT'LL BE A MIX OF

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QUESTIONS FOR BOTH THE AUTHOR

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AS WELL AS LIKE THE SUPPORT AND

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OPPOSITION. I FIRST WANT TO

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ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS NOT A

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SPACE THAT I HAVE A LOT OF

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INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT,

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BUT ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS IN

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THE WORLD, HER HUSBAND, IS VERY

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ACTIVE IN THE KIND OF 3D

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PRINTING COMMUNITY AND IS ALSO

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A VERY STRONG SUPPORTER OF GUN

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CONTROL. AND SO I KNOW THERE'S

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SOME OPPOSITION HERE, THOSE

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THAT ARE OPPOSING, YOU KNOW,

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RELATED TO, YOU KNOW, TO Ã

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ISSUES, VERY STRONG SUPPORTER

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OF GUN CONTROL MYSELF. BUT

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THERE'S OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE

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HERE BECAUSE OF THESE

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SURVEILLANCE PIECES AND

06:25:51.995 --> 06:25:53.730
QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT. AND SO I

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THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, JUST

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IN TERMS OF HOW THIS BILL IS

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GOING TO OPERATE, WE HAVE

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INDIVIDUALS LIKE MY FRIEND'S

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HUSBAND WHO ALREADY OWN 3D

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PRINTERS. WE HAVE SCHOOLS,

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LIBRARIES THAT ALREADY HAVE

06:26:07.043 --> 06:26:09.546
THESE SYSTEMS IN PLACE. AND SO

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WHAT IS THE KIND OF VISION FOR

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INTRODUCING THIS SOFTWARE, YOU

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KNOW, TO PEOPLE THAT ALREADY

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OWN THIS TYPE OF MACHINERY?

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WOULD IT BE EXPECTED THAT THEY

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KIND OF DOWNLOAD THE SOFTWARE?

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WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF THEY DID

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NOT DO SO DUE TO NO FAULT OF

06:26:25.795 --> 06:26:26.730
THEIR OWN? BECAUSE NOT

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EVERYBODY KEEPS UP WITH THE

06:26:27.898 --> 06:26:29.032
MONEY BILLS THAT WE'RE PASSING

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UP HERE. AND SO IT JUST FIRST

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LIKE TO START OFF BY JUST

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HEARING LIKE A KIND OF

06:26:33.803 --> 06:26:35.772
OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE. I

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DON'T KNOW WHO'S CHAIRING. OKAY.

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THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. YOU THREW

06:26:42.445 --> 06:26:45.916
ME OFF. THANK YOU. THROUGH THE

06:26:45.982 --> 06:26:47.751
CHAIR THANK YOU, SENATOR, FOR

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THAT. AND I JUST WANT TO START

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BY SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS BILL,

06:26:51.454 --> 06:26:53.089
AND I KNOW AND IF YOU DON'T

06:26:53.156 --> 06:26:54.157
MIND, TURN IT OVER TO MY

06:26:54.224 --> 06:26:56.059
SPONSORS IN JUST A SECOND TO

06:26:56.126 --> 06:26:58.194
ANSWER YOUR TECHNICAL QUESTIONS.

06:26:58.261 --> 06:26:59.596
AND THE LAW THAT WENT INTO

06:26:59.663 --> 06:27:01.264
EFFECT IN NEW YORK, BY NO MEANS

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DO WE IN THESE HERE IN

06:27:03.567 --> 06:27:05.001
CALIFORNIA WANT TO STOP 3D

06:27:05.068 --> 06:27:06.036
PRINTING ENTHUSIASTS FROM

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PRINTING. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT

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THE GOAL, WHICH IS WHY THE BILL

06:27:09.673 --> 06:27:10.807
ACTUALLY SET STANDARDS USING

06:27:10.874 --> 06:27:12.542
EXPERTS. BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT,

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WE ARE NOT THE EXPERTS WHO CAN

06:27:14.110 --> 06:27:15.679
MAKE SURE THIS IS MAXIMALLY

06:27:15.745 --> 06:27:16.179
EFFECTIVE AND MINIMALLY

06:27:16.246 --> 06:27:17.681
DISRUPTIVE, WHICH IS THE GOAL

06:27:17.747 --> 06:27:20.617
OF THE BILL. AND AS SOMEONE WHO,

06:27:20.684 --> 06:27:22.519
YOU KNOW, I WILL PUT ON THE

06:27:22.586 --> 06:27:23.753
RECORD, ONE OF THE THINGS I DID

06:27:23.820 --> 06:27:25.155
PRIOR TO GETTING THIS

06:27:25.221 --> 06:27:28.024
LEGISLATURE WAS FIGHT TO OPEN

06:27:28.091 --> 06:27:28.992
MAKERSPACES AT EVERY ELEMENTARY

06:27:29.059 --> 06:27:30.126
SCHOOL IN MY DISTRICT, BECAUSE

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I THINK THESE KIND OF SKILLS

06:27:31.328 --> 06:27:32.395
ARE ACTUALLY A CRITICALLY

06:27:32.462 --> 06:27:34.130
IMPORTANT PART OF OUR ACADEMIC

06:27:34.197 --> 06:27:35.665
INSTITUTIONS. AND SO THE BILL

06:27:35.732 --> 06:27:37.567
IS CRAFTED IN A WAY THAT WOULD

06:27:37.634 --> 06:27:38.568
ALLOW OUR 3D PRINTING

06:27:38.635 --> 06:27:39.536
ENTHUSIASTS TO CONTINUE TO

06:27:39.603 --> 06:27:41.338
PRINT AND JUST NOT PRINT THE

06:27:41.404 --> 06:27:42.405
FILES THAT ARE FIREARMS. BUT

06:27:42.472 --> 06:27:43.506
YOU HAVE VERY TECHNICAL

06:27:43.573 --> 06:27:44.608
QUESTIONS. SO IF YOU DON'T MIND,

06:27:44.674 --> 06:27:48.545
I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MY SPONSOR.

06:27:48.612 --> 06:27:50.080
THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR

06:27:50.146 --> 06:27:52.549
THE QUESTION, SENATOR. VERY

06:27:52.616 --> 06:27:53.950
CLEAR ANSWER FOR FOLKS WHO

06:27:54.017 --> 06:27:55.785
ALREADY HAVE 3D PRINTERS, EVEN

06:27:55.852 --> 06:27:57.654
FOLKS WHO BUY 3D PRINTERS UP

06:27:57.721 --> 06:28:00.156
THROUGH 2029 UNDER THE BILL,

06:28:00.223 --> 06:28:01.858
THAT DOESN'T IMPACT THEM AT ALL.

06:28:01.925 --> 06:28:03.426
THERE'S NO EXPECTATION THAT

06:28:03.493 --> 06:28:05.195
THEY DOWNLOAD NEW SOFTWARE THAT

06:28:05.261 --> 06:28:07.631
THEY UPGRADE, YOU KNOW, THE

06:28:07.697 --> 06:28:09.065
PROPERTY THEY ALREADY HAVE.

06:28:09.132 --> 06:28:10.900
THEY'RE ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO

06:28:10.967 --> 06:28:12.302
RESELL PRINTERS THAT DON'T HAVE

06:28:12.369 --> 06:28:14.170
FIREARM BLOCKING TECHNOLOGY

06:28:14.237 --> 06:28:15.238
UNDER AN EXEMPTION THAT WE

06:28:15.305 --> 06:28:17.107
AMENDED INTO THE BILL. THE BILL

06:28:17.173 --> 06:28:19.542
IS REALLY FOCUSED AS A BUSINESS

06:28:19.609 --> 06:28:22.812
REGULATION ON 3D PRINTER

06:28:22.879 --> 06:28:24.180
MANUFACTURERS, TO BE SURE

06:28:24.247 --> 06:28:26.016
THEY'RE INCORPORATING THIS

06:28:26.082 --> 06:28:27.584
TECHNOLOGY INTO PRINTERS THAT

06:28:27.651 --> 06:28:28.551
THEY'RE SELLING IN CALIFORNIA

06:28:28.618 --> 06:28:32.122
AFTER 2029. SO THE BILL WOULD

06:28:32.188 --> 06:28:35.358
ONLY APPLY TOWARDS BUSINESSES

06:28:35.425 --> 06:28:37.894
THAT ARE OPERATING IN AND

06:28:37.961 --> 06:28:39.329
UTILIZING 3D PRINTERS, OR IT

06:28:39.396 --> 06:28:42.265
WOULD APPLY TO BUSINESSES

06:28:42.332 --> 06:28:44.100
BUILDING 3D PRINTERS THAT ARE

06:28:44.167 --> 06:28:46.169
SELLING THEM. JUST SO I'M CLEAR.

06:28:46.236 --> 06:28:47.971
YEAH. THAT'S RIGHT. SO ACTUAL

06:28:48.038 --> 06:28:50.540
PRINTER MANUFACTURERS. SO, YOU

06:28:50.607 --> 06:28:52.308
KNOW, REALLY IN THAT MARKET,

06:28:52.375 --> 06:28:53.743
THERE'S A HANDFUL OF COMPANIES

06:28:53.810 --> 06:28:54.978
THAT KIND OF HAVE THE MAJORITY

06:28:55.045 --> 06:28:57.714
OF THE MARKET SHARE, YOU KNOW,

06:28:57.781 --> 06:28:59.916
AS WELL AS REALLY ANY OTHER 3D

06:28:59.983 --> 06:29:00.950
PRINTER MANUFACTURER THAT'S

06:29:01.017 --> 06:29:02.619
GOING TO SELL THROUGH, YOU KNOW,

06:29:02.686 --> 06:29:03.787
THE RETAIL PROCESS IN

06:29:03.853 --> 06:29:07.223
CALIFORNIA. OKAY. I HEARD SOME

06:29:07.290 --> 06:29:08.558
OF THE FOLKS THAT CAME UP IN

06:29:08.625 --> 06:29:09.626
OPPOSITION MENTIONED THIS WHO

06:29:09.693 --> 06:29:11.061
KIND OF SMALL BUSINESSES IN

06:29:11.127 --> 06:29:12.529
THIS SPACE. AND THIS WAS ALSO A

06:29:12.595 --> 06:29:14.397
QUESTION THAT CAME UP FROM, AS

06:29:14.464 --> 06:29:18.234
I MENTIONED, A CONSTITUENT THAT

06:29:18.301 --> 06:29:19.936
COST CONCERNS HOW THIS MIGHT BE

06:29:20.003 --> 06:29:21.838
COST PROHIBITIVE FOR THIS,

06:29:21.905 --> 06:29:25.375
THESE MAKER SPACES OR THESE ARE

06:29:25.442 --> 06:29:27.210
STARTUP VENTURES. AND IN MANY

06:29:27.277 --> 06:29:28.611
CASES, THESE ARE SMALL BUSINESS

06:29:28.678 --> 06:29:30.480
OWNERS. AND THIS KIND OF

06:29:30.547 --> 06:29:32.282
PREVENTING AND STIFLING THE

06:29:32.348 --> 06:29:33.349
ABILITY OF SOMEBODY WHO MAYBE

06:29:33.416 --> 06:29:35.118
WANTS TO GET STARTED IN THIS

06:29:35.185 --> 06:29:39.789
SPACE, BECAUSE THERE ARE COSTS,

06:29:39.856 --> 06:29:40.857
CHALLENGES WITH IMPLEMENTING

06:29:40.924 --> 06:29:42.092
THE SOFTWARE. I HAVE NO IDEA

06:29:42.158 --> 06:29:43.460
HOW MUCH THIS COSTS, AND I

06:29:43.526 --> 06:29:46.429
DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE LIKE

06:29:46.496 --> 06:29:47.597
ISSUES WITH THAT OR IF THAT'S

06:29:47.664 --> 06:29:48.665
SOMETHING THAT YOU'VE TALKED

06:29:48.732 --> 06:29:50.433
THROUGH. AND I'M NOT SURE IF

06:29:50.500 --> 06:29:51.434
OPPOSITION HAS ANY COMMENTARY

06:29:51.501 --> 06:29:53.470
ON THAT TOO, BUT JUST HOW TO

06:29:53.536 --> 06:29:55.338
KIND OF NAVIGATE SOME OF THOSE

06:29:55.405 --> 06:29:56.773
COST CHALLENGES FOR MAYBE

06:29:56.840 --> 06:29:58.742
SOMEBODY THAT'S WANTING,

06:29:58.808 --> 06:29:59.642
THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN

06:29:59.709 --> 06:30:01.478
PRINTING GUNS, BUT WANTS TO DO

06:30:01.544 --> 06:30:03.913
THE RIGHT THING, IS TRYING TO

06:30:03.980 --> 06:30:05.749
CREATE INNOVATIVE TECHNOLOGY

06:30:05.815 --> 06:30:07.550
AND ALLOWING THEM TO BE ABLE TO

06:30:07.617 --> 06:30:10.754
DO THAT. MR. CHAIR, CAN I YES.

06:30:10.820 --> 06:30:13.356
THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S

06:30:13.423 --> 06:30:15.425
IMPORTANT TO NOT SORT OF

06:30:15.492 --> 06:30:16.426
PRESUPPOSE THAT THERE'S GOING

06:30:16.493 --> 06:30:17.627
TO BE HIGH COSTS ASSOCIATED

06:30:17.694 --> 06:30:18.728
WITH THIS. ULTIMATELY, WE NEED

06:30:18.795 --> 06:30:20.930
TO THINK ABOUT WHAT ARE THE

06:30:20.997 --> 06:30:22.365
INCENTIVES THAT THE 3D PRINTER

06:30:22.432 --> 06:30:23.466
MANUFACTURERS HAVE. THEY WANT

06:30:23.533 --> 06:30:25.168
TO GET PRINTERS OUT TO AS MANY

06:30:25.235 --> 06:30:26.202
PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. WE HAVE

06:30:26.269 --> 06:30:27.337
SEEN THE PRICE POINT OF

06:30:27.403 --> 06:30:28.772
PRINTERS DROPPING, WHICH IS

06:30:28.838 --> 06:30:30.206
FANTASTIC. IT'S MAKING THIS,

06:30:30.273 --> 06:30:32.742
YOU KNOW, A, AN AVENUE FOR

06:30:32.809 --> 06:30:33.843
CREATIVITY, FOR INNOVATION

06:30:33.910 --> 06:30:35.545
THAT'S OPEN TO MORE PEOPLE. I

06:30:35.612 --> 06:30:36.446
DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY REASON

06:30:36.513 --> 06:30:38.181
TO NECESSARILY ASSUME THAT

06:30:38.248 --> 06:30:39.382
BLOCKING TECHNOLOGY THAT'S

06:30:39.449 --> 06:30:42.085
GOING TO BE DEPLOYED AT SCALE

06:30:42.152 --> 06:30:43.586
DEVELOPED OVER MANY, MANY YEARS

06:30:43.653 --> 06:30:45.789
HERE WITH VERY, YOU KNOW,

06:30:45.855 --> 06:30:47.157
FLEXIBLE, DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR

06:30:47.223 --> 06:30:49.225
HOW MANUFACTURERS INCORPORATE

06:30:49.292 --> 06:30:50.860
IT. THE BILL SETS OUT SETS

06:30:50.927 --> 06:30:52.562
FORTH KIND OF A VARIETY OF WAYS

06:30:52.629 --> 06:30:53.830
THAT IT CAN BE INCORPORATED,

06:30:53.897 --> 06:30:54.731
DIFFERENT DESIGN FORMS TO

06:30:54.798 --> 06:30:55.732
REALLY GIVE MANUFACTURERS

06:30:55.799 --> 06:30:59.102
MAXIMUM FLEXIBILITY TO FIND THE

06:30:59.169 --> 06:31:00.170
TECHNOLOGY THAT'S GOING TO BE,

06:31:00.236 --> 06:31:01.271
YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY THE

06:31:01.337 --> 06:31:02.372
CHEAPEST AND EASIEST FOR THEM

06:31:02.438 --> 06:31:03.706
TO INCORPORATE INTO THEIR

06:31:03.773 --> 06:31:04.607
MACHINES SO THAT THOSE PRICE

06:31:04.674 --> 06:31:06.509
POINTS DON'T GO UP. CERTAINLY,

06:31:06.576 --> 06:31:07.710
YOU KNOW, INCREASING COSTS TO

06:31:07.777 --> 06:31:10.613
SMALL BUSINESSES, MAKERSPACES

06:31:10.680 --> 06:31:12.315
EDUCATORS IS NOT A GOAL OF THE

06:31:12.382 --> 06:31:14.083
BILL. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE

06:31:14.150 --> 06:31:17.420
ALL WANT TO PROTECT AGAINST. SO

06:31:17.487 --> 06:31:19.289
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOT

06:31:19.355 --> 06:31:20.824
MOVE FORWARD WITH, YOU KNOW,

06:31:20.890 --> 06:31:21.825
THE NEGATIVE ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT

06:31:21.891 --> 06:31:22.992
WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN HERE WHEN WE

06:31:23.059 --> 06:31:24.127
KNOW THE ECONOMICS OF THE

06:31:24.194 --> 06:31:25.895
MANUFACTURERS IS GOING TO BE TO

06:31:25.962 --> 06:31:27.831
COST AS LOW AS POSSIBLE. CAN I

06:31:27.897 --> 06:31:28.898
COMMENT ON THE ECONOMICS? NO,

06:31:28.965 --> 06:31:30.834
ONLY IF A MEMBER ASKS YOU A

06:31:30.900 --> 06:31:31.901
QUESTION. OKAY. THANK YOU. DID

06:31:31.968 --> 06:31:33.937
YOU ASK DO YOU WANT TO ASK HIM?

06:31:34.003 --> 06:31:35.071
YEAH, SURE. I WOULD LOVE TO

06:31:35.138 --> 06:31:36.906
HEAR FROM. OKAY. THANK YOU. I'M

06:31:36.973 --> 06:31:38.041
SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S NOT

06:31:38.107 --> 06:31:39.142
HOW THE TECHNOLOGY WORKS.

06:31:39.209 --> 06:31:39.909
UNFORTUNATELY. IT'S THE

06:31:39.976 --> 06:31:41.177
FUNDAMENTAL CORE OF THE

06:31:41.244 --> 06:31:43.379
TECHNOLOGY. AND AS YOU HEARD

06:31:43.446 --> 06:31:45.081
THE LIST, THE MANUFACTURERS OF

06:31:45.148 --> 06:31:46.683
THESE MACHINES ALL HAVE SAID

06:31:46.749 --> 06:31:48.218
THIS IS NOT POSSIBLE. THEY

06:31:48.284 --> 06:31:49.319
SPOKE UP ABOUT THIS. THEY'VE

06:31:49.385 --> 06:31:50.420
BEEN WRITING TO EVERYONE HERE

06:31:50.486 --> 06:31:51.988
THAT THE TECHNOLOGY DOES NOT

06:31:52.055 --> 06:31:53.723
WORK IN THIS MANNER IN ANY

06:31:53.790 --> 06:31:55.158
CAPACITY. THERE ARE TONS OF

06:31:55.225 --> 06:31:56.292
DIFFERENT PRINTERS. AND THE

06:31:56.359 --> 06:31:57.260
WONDERFUL THING ABOUT 3D

06:31:57.327 --> 06:31:59.162
PRINTERS IS IT'S OPEN SOURCE.

06:31:59.229 --> 06:32:00.730
YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN. I CAN

06:32:00.797 --> 06:32:02.732
MAKE MY OWN AND MAKE IT DO

06:32:02.799 --> 06:32:04.567
WHATEVER, BUT ADDING SOFTWARE

06:32:04.634 --> 06:32:07.437
TO SOMEONE ELSE'S PLATFORM THAT

06:32:07.503 --> 06:32:09.205
DOESN'T WORK WITH YOURS IS NOT

06:32:09.272 --> 06:32:10.039
COMPATIBLE. IT WOULDN'T WORK.

06:32:10.106 --> 06:32:11.808
IT'D BE LIKE ME PUTTING AN APP

06:32:11.875 --> 06:32:13.476
FOR AN ANDROID ON YOUR IPHONE.

06:32:13.543 --> 06:32:15.278
IT DOESN'T COMPAT, IT WOULD NOT

06:32:15.345 --> 06:32:17.046
WORK. AND THE OTHER THING IS,

06:32:17.113 --> 06:32:18.314
WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE IN THIS TO

06:32:18.381 --> 06:32:20.016
BLOCK THE SOFTWARE, TO BLOCK

06:32:20.083 --> 06:32:21.918
SHAPES, TO BLOCK OBJECTS.

06:32:21.985 --> 06:32:23.253
OBJECTS DON'T HAVE INTENT. AND

06:32:23.319 --> 06:32:24.954
THE WAY THE SOFTWARE WORKS AND

06:32:25.021 --> 06:32:26.022
WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT

06:32:26.089 --> 06:32:27.123
DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. IT'S

06:32:27.190 --> 06:32:28.958
LINES OF CODE. IT'S G CODE,

06:32:29.025 --> 06:32:30.093
JUST LIKE THIS EYEBALL I HAVE

06:32:30.159 --> 06:32:31.928
HERE FROM THE MAYO CLINIC. THIS

06:32:31.995 --> 06:32:33.029
WOULD BE CONSIDERED. I'M NOT

06:32:33.096 --> 06:32:33.997
KIDDING. THIS WOULD BE

06:32:34.063 --> 06:32:35.265
CONSIDERED A FIREARM PART BASED

06:32:35.331 --> 06:32:36.599
ON EXACTLY WHAT YOU HAVE.

06:32:36.666 --> 06:32:37.967
BECAUSE OF THE MOUNTING PIECE

06:32:38.034 --> 06:32:39.869
IN THE BACK, THE CYLINDER HOLE

06:32:39.936 --> 06:32:41.404
IN THE BACK WOULD SHOW UP

06:32:41.471 --> 06:32:42.472
EXACTLY AS THIS. AND THE

06:32:42.538 --> 06:32:43.539
COMPANY THAT THEY'RE WORKING

06:32:43.606 --> 06:32:45.174
WITH, NHÀ, I'VE USED THEIR

06:32:45.241 --> 06:32:45.909
TECHNOLOGY. EVERYONE IN THE

06:32:45.975 --> 06:32:47.377
INDUSTRY HAS USED THEIR

06:32:47.443 --> 06:32:49.012
TECHNOLOGY. IT DID NOT WORK,

06:32:49.078 --> 06:32:50.280
AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS TAKEN OUT

06:32:50.346 --> 06:32:52.148
OF THINGS. THE EXECUTIVE OF

06:32:52.215 --> 06:32:53.716
THINGS WAS HERE AND SHAPEWAYS

06:32:53.783 --> 06:32:55.218
LAST WEEK AND SPOKE TO THIS,

06:32:55.285 --> 06:32:57.287
AND WE ALL ARE FOR GUN SAFETY

06:32:57.353 --> 06:32:58.521
AND ALL SORTS OF STUFF LIKE

06:32:58.588 --> 06:33:00.723
THIS. AND THIS ISN'T A FIREARM

06:33:00.790 --> 06:33:01.958
BILL, BECAUSE THE TECHNOLOGY

06:33:02.025 --> 06:33:02.825
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAS

06:33:02.892 --> 06:33:04.260
NOTHING TO DO WITH FIREARMS.

06:33:04.327 --> 06:33:06.195
YOU CAN'T MAKE. THERE'S ALSO

06:33:06.262 --> 06:33:07.597
BEEN NO DEATHS OF 3D PRINTED

06:33:07.664 --> 06:33:09.232
GUNS EVER, FROM THE DODD OR ATF

06:33:09.299 --> 06:33:11.167
OR ANYONE, BECAUSE IT'S PLASTIC.

06:33:11.234 --> 06:33:12.602
NO ONE MAKES THESE BECAUSE IT

06:33:12.669 --> 06:33:14.370
IS PLASTIC. THE INDUSTRIAL

06:33:14.437 --> 06:33:15.371
MATERIALS, THOSE COME FROM

06:33:15.438 --> 06:33:17.273
MACHINES THAT COST $1 MILLION.

06:33:17.340 --> 06:33:18.908
AND THE MATERIALS THEMSELVES

06:33:18.975 --> 06:33:20.510
COST TENS OF THOUSANDS OF

06:33:20.576 --> 06:33:22.979
DOLLARS IN POWDER FORM TO MAKE

06:33:23.046 --> 06:33:24.580
METAL, AND YOU CAN DO WAM AND

06:33:24.647 --> 06:33:26.282
OTHER STUFF LIKE THAT. I WON'T

06:33:26.349 --> 06:33:28.184
GET INTO THE THE ALL OF THAT.

06:33:28.251 --> 06:33:29.252
BUT THAT'S NOT HOW THE

06:33:29.319 --> 06:33:30.186
TECHNOLOGY WORKS FUNDAMENTALLY.

06:33:30.253 --> 06:33:34.490
AND TO SAY, OH, DRAMATIC EFFECT.

06:33:34.557 --> 06:33:36.159
I THINK THAT MEANS IT'S TIME

06:33:36.225 --> 06:33:37.794
FOR YOU TO FINISH YOUR COMMENTS.

06:33:37.860 --> 06:33:39.295
I'LL FINISH UP. YEAH, JUST

06:33:39.362 --> 06:33:40.697
FUNDAMENTALLY THE TECHNOLOGY. I

06:33:40.763 --> 06:33:42.098
MEAN, I WORK WITH EVERYONE

06:33:42.165 --> 06:33:43.333
AROUND THE PLANET. I'VE BEEN

06:33:43.399 --> 06:33:44.400
WORKING IN THIS INDUSTRY FOR

06:33:44.467 --> 06:33:45.501
OVER SEVEN YEARS, TRAVELING

06:33:45.568 --> 06:33:46.569
AROUND THE PLANET, WORKING WITH

06:33:46.636 --> 06:33:48.271
EVERYONE, EVERYONE. THE

06:33:48.338 --> 06:33:49.872
TECHNOLOGY IS NOT FUNDAMENTALLY

06:33:49.939 --> 06:33:52.976
WORK THE WAY THEY'RE ASKING.

06:33:53.042 --> 06:33:54.711
THANK YOU FOR, FOR THAT CONTEXT.

06:33:54.777 --> 06:33:57.180
AND JUST SO I'M CLEAR, ASSEMBLY

06:33:57.246 --> 06:33:58.681
MEMBER IS YOUR YOUR BILL IS

06:33:58.748 --> 06:34:00.216
APPLYING TO ALL 3D PRINTERS,

06:34:00.283 --> 06:34:02.952
RIGHT? SO THOSE THAT PRINT IN

06:34:03.019 --> 06:34:06.923
PLASTIC, METAL, SUGAR, ETCETERA.

06:34:06.990 --> 06:34:09.559
SO IF. YES, SORRY, I'M TRYING

06:34:09.625 --> 06:34:13.463
TO KEEP PROTOCOL HERE. SO CAN I.

06:34:13.529 --> 06:34:14.897
YEAH, LET ME ANSWER THAT IN ONE

06:34:14.964 --> 06:34:16.966
SECOND. AND THEN I JUST WANT TO

06:34:17.033 --> 06:34:18.167
SAY A COUPLE THINGS. ONE IS, AS

06:34:18.234 --> 06:34:20.169
YOU WILL NOTE IN THE SYSTEM AND

06:34:20.236 --> 06:34:21.971
IN THE ANALYSIS, THE MAJOR 3D

06:34:22.038 --> 06:34:23.339
COMPANIES, PRINTING COMPANIES

06:34:23.406 --> 06:34:24.640
ARE NOT OPPOSED TO THIS, WHICH

06:34:24.707 --> 06:34:26.242
I THINK CAN INSTRUCT US THAT

06:34:26.309 --> 06:34:27.276
THEY DON'T THINK THIS IS

06:34:27.343 --> 06:34:28.378
IMPOSSIBLE. I THINK THAT'S

06:34:28.444 --> 06:34:30.513
THAT'S INCORRECT. OKAY. EXCUSE

06:34:30.580 --> 06:34:34.417
ME. OKAY. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO

06:34:34.484 --> 06:34:35.952
SPEAK UNLESS A MEMBER ASKS YOU

06:34:36.019 --> 06:34:37.754
A QUESTION. WE'RE NOT GOING TO

06:34:37.820 --> 06:34:39.655
TOLERATE ANY OUTBURSTS. PLEASE

06:34:39.722 --> 06:34:41.124
EXERCISE DECORUM OR I'LL HAVE

06:34:41.190 --> 06:34:43.760
TO ASK YOU TO LEAVE.

06:34:43.826 --> 06:34:44.660
ASSEMBLYMEMBERS. BAUER-KAHAN

06:34:44.727 --> 06:34:47.163
HAS THE FLOOR, PLEASE. THANK

06:34:47.230 --> 06:34:48.364
YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND THEN

06:34:48.431 --> 06:34:49.999
SECONDLY, I WOULD NOTE, AS WAS

06:34:50.066 --> 06:34:51.234
NOTED IN THE OPENING TESTIMONY

06:34:51.300 --> 06:34:52.602
FROM MY WITNESSES, AND WE

06:34:52.668 --> 06:34:54.070
ACTUALLY HAVE SEEN RATES OF

06:34:54.137 --> 06:34:55.171
THESE GUNS THAT ARE BEING

06:34:55.238 --> 06:34:56.172
PRINTED IN CALIFORNIA. SO I

06:34:56.239 --> 06:34:57.407
WANTED TO CORRECT THE RECORD

06:34:57.473 --> 06:34:59.208
THERE AS WELL. THIS IS I'M NOT

06:34:59.275 --> 06:35:01.110
MAKING UP A PROBLEM. THERE IS A

06:35:01.177 --> 06:35:03.079
PROBLEM HERE. AND THEN IF I CAN

06:35:03.146 --> 06:35:04.313
TURN IT OVER ON THE TECHNICAL

06:35:04.380 --> 06:35:05.314
QUESTIONS TO MY WITNESSES.

06:35:05.381 --> 06:35:07.083
CERTAINLY I CAN UNDERSCORE ON

06:35:07.150 --> 06:35:08.918
THE NATURE OF THE PROBLEM AND

06:35:08.985 --> 06:35:10.686
THE IMPACT THAT THE SORT OF

06:35:10.753 --> 06:35:11.788
ACCELERATION OF FINDING 3D

06:35:11.854 --> 06:35:13.489
PRINTED GUNS HAS BEEN HAVING.

06:35:13.556 --> 06:35:15.458
WE'VE SEEN NUMEROUS INSTANCES

06:35:15.525 --> 06:35:16.526
IN CALIFORNIA JUST IN THE LAST

06:35:16.592 --> 06:35:18.127
SIX MONTHS. SO I THINK ONE OF

06:35:18.194 --> 06:35:19.996
THE THINGS THAT HAS COME UP

06:35:20.063 --> 06:35:21.097
FROM THE OPPOSITION HAS BEEN

06:35:21.164 --> 06:35:22.098
IT'S ALREADY ILLEGAL. AND AND

06:35:22.165 --> 06:35:24.000
IN FACT, I ACTUALLY THINK SOME

06:35:24.067 --> 06:35:25.101
OF THE OPPOSITION MAYBE IS A

06:35:25.168 --> 06:35:26.235
LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE FACT

06:35:26.302 --> 06:35:28.037
THAT IT IS ALREADY ILLEGAL TO

06:35:28.104 --> 06:35:29.238
EVEN, YOU KNOW, TRANSFER FILES

06:35:29.305 --> 06:35:30.973
AND THINGS LIKE, LIKE GUN FILES

06:35:31.040 --> 06:35:31.974
ARE ILLEGAL IN CALIFORNIA

06:35:32.041 --> 06:35:33.910
ALREADY. SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY

06:35:33.976 --> 06:35:35.445
WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE

06:35:35.511 --> 06:35:36.446
IS THE ACTUAL PREVENTIVE

06:35:36.512 --> 06:35:37.713
SOLUTION, THE UPSTREAM SOLUTION

06:35:37.780 --> 06:35:39.115
THAT STOPS THE GUNS FROM BEING

06:35:39.182 --> 06:35:41.284
PRINTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. ON

06:35:41.350 --> 06:35:43.386
THE TECHNICAL QUESTION, IF YOU

06:35:43.453 --> 06:35:44.620
COULD ACTUALLY JUST REPEAT AND

06:35:44.687 --> 06:35:47.190
THERE WAS A LOT SAID THERE, I'M

06:35:47.256 --> 06:35:48.491
HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY SPECIFICS.

06:35:48.558 --> 06:35:50.660
YEAH, NO, I JUST I'M VERY

06:35:50.726 --> 06:35:52.428
SPECIFIC. JUST DOES THE BILL

06:35:52.495 --> 06:35:53.896
APPLY TO ALL TYPES OF 3D

06:35:53.963 --> 06:35:54.964
PRINTERS? SO THOSE PRINTED

06:35:55.031 --> 06:35:56.132
PLASTIC, METAL, SUGAR, ETC. SO

06:35:56.199 --> 06:35:59.235
IT WOULD DO EVERYTHING AS

06:35:59.302 --> 06:36:00.670
WRITTEN. THERE'S NO

06:36:00.736 --> 06:36:02.071
SPECIFICATION ACROSS THAT. I

06:36:02.138 --> 06:36:03.506
DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE

06:36:03.573 --> 06:36:04.607
ASSEMBLY MEMBER, BUT I'M SURE

06:36:04.674 --> 06:36:07.076
IF THERE WERE AN INVITATION TO

06:36:07.143 --> 06:36:09.579
AMEND TO NOT ADDRESS A 3D

06:36:09.645 --> 06:36:11.414
PRINTED CHOCOLATE OR SUGAR OR

06:36:11.481 --> 06:36:13.216
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S

06:36:13.282 --> 06:36:15.751
ABSOLUTELY THE KIND OF POLICY

06:36:15.818 --> 06:36:17.453
CHANGE THAT I THINK WE'D BE

06:36:17.520 --> 06:36:20.089
OPEN TO CONSIDER. BUT THE, YOU

06:36:20.156 --> 06:36:24.026
KNOW, MATERIALS THAT THAT 3D

06:36:24.093 --> 06:36:25.828
PRINTERS WORK WITH ARE GETTING

06:36:25.895 --> 06:36:27.330
INCREASINGLY STRONG. WE ARE

06:36:27.396 --> 06:36:28.431
SEEING, YOU KNOW, THE CORE

06:36:28.498 --> 06:36:30.500
FRAMES AND RECEIVERS OF GUNS

06:36:30.566 --> 06:36:31.868
ARE CAPABLE OF BEING PRINTED

06:36:31.934 --> 06:36:34.036
WITH 3D PRINTERS. THERE ARE NOW,

06:36:34.103 --> 06:36:36.606
YOU KNOW, THANKS TO SORT OF

06:36:36.672 --> 06:36:38.774
VERY ACTIVE COMMUNITIES OF

06:36:38.841 --> 06:36:40.610
ONLINE EXTREMISTS WHO HAVE BEEN

06:36:40.676 --> 06:36:42.311
PURPOSEFULLY TRYING TO REFINE

06:36:42.378 --> 06:36:44.480
THESE FILES SO THAT THEY CAN BE

06:36:44.547 --> 06:36:45.982
INCREASINGLY EFFECTIVE 3D

06:36:46.048 --> 06:36:48.084
PRINTED FIREARMS. WE ARE SEEING

06:36:48.151 --> 06:36:49.886
SOME THAT ONLY NEED, YOU KNOW,

06:36:49.952 --> 06:36:51.721
A, A REALLY SCREW OR A RUBBER

06:36:51.787 --> 06:36:53.956
BAND. IT'S GETTING MORE

06:36:54.023 --> 06:36:55.057
SOPHISTICATED. SO WE NEED THIS

06:36:55.124 --> 06:36:56.459
BLOCKING TECHNOLOGY TO BE

06:36:56.526 --> 06:36:57.393
INSTALLED SO WE CAN GET AHEAD

06:36:57.460 --> 06:36:59.195
OF THE PROBLEM. OKAY. I'M SORRY.

06:36:59.262 --> 06:37:00.396
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE

06:37:00.463 --> 06:37:02.231
BECAUSE I HAD ONE LAST QUESTION.

06:37:02.298 --> 06:37:05.034
SO YOU KIND OF STARTED

06:37:05.101 --> 06:37:06.502
MENTIONING THIS AND I, I JUST

06:37:06.569 --> 06:37:08.704
WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, LIKE,

06:37:08.771 --> 06:37:09.739
THESE ARE VERY GENUINE

06:37:09.805 --> 06:37:11.941
QUESTIONS BECAUSE I ALSO, I'M,

06:37:12.008 --> 06:37:13.676
I'M LEARNING ABOUT AND ABOUT

06:37:13.743 --> 06:37:15.144
THIS IN REAL TIME, AS YOU ALL

06:37:15.211 --> 06:37:17.013
ARE EXPLAINING THIS TO ME. AND

06:37:17.079 --> 06:37:18.714
AS I WAS READING THE BILL LAST

06:37:18.781 --> 06:37:23.085
NIGHT, REGULATING WEBSITES THAT

06:37:23.152 --> 06:37:26.289
DISTRIBUTE 3D FILES IS ALREADY

06:37:26.355 --> 06:37:28.424
IN LAW. SO THAT IS A THAT IS

06:37:28.491 --> 06:37:29.525
LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN

06:37:29.592 --> 06:37:31.961
PASSED PREVIOUSLY. SO

06:37:32.028 --> 06:37:34.497
REGULATING COMPANIES THAT ARE

06:37:34.564 --> 06:37:38.868
PRODUCING 3D, LIKE PARTS OF 3D

06:37:38.935 --> 06:37:40.670
GUNS ALREADY EXIST. IS THAT

06:37:40.736 --> 06:37:42.438
WHAT YOU JUST SAID AND YOU JUST

06:37:42.505 --> 06:37:46.509
REFERRED TO? THE CHAIR YES,

06:37:46.576 --> 06:37:50.046
PLEASE. YES. SO THE THE SORT OF

06:37:50.112 --> 06:37:51.814
FILE DISTRIBUTING FILES FOR 3D

06:37:51.881 --> 06:37:54.317
PRINTED GUNS ALREADY ILLEGAL,

06:37:54.383 --> 06:37:56.252
PRINTING THEM ALREADY ILLEGAL.

06:37:56.319 --> 06:37:57.620
WE ARE STILL SEEING THEM. WE

06:37:57.687 --> 06:37:58.688
ARE STILL SEEING RECOVERIES OF

06:37:58.754 --> 06:38:00.289
THESE GUNS. WE'RE SEEING GHOST

06:38:00.356 --> 06:38:02.258
GUN MANUFACTURING OPERATIONS

06:38:02.325 --> 06:38:04.060
WITH YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FINDING

06:38:04.126 --> 06:38:05.861
DOZENS OF 3D PRINTED FIREARM

06:38:05.928 --> 06:38:07.997
PARTS AT A TIME AND MULTIPLE 3D

06:38:08.064 --> 06:38:09.131
PRINTERS, SOMETIMES IN

06:38:09.198 --> 06:38:11.434
TEENAGERS BEDROOMS. WE'RE JUST

06:38:11.500 --> 06:38:13.135
TRYING TO HAVE TECHNOLOGY

06:38:13.202 --> 06:38:14.237
EQUIPPED ON THOSE PRINTERS. SO

06:38:14.303 --> 06:38:16.005
IT'S NOT EVEN REGULATING A

06:38:16.072 --> 06:38:18.908
SPECIFIC SEGMENT OF 3D PRINTER

06:38:18.975 --> 06:38:19.976
MANUFACTURERS. IT'S NOT, YOU

06:38:20.042 --> 06:38:21.877
KNOW, FOCUSED ON ONES THAT CAN

06:38:21.944 --> 06:38:23.613
PRINT GUNS SPECIFICALLY. IT

06:38:23.679 --> 06:38:25.281
WILL BE TECHNOLOGY ON ALL, ALL

06:38:25.348 --> 06:38:27.183
3D PRINTERS. OKAY. GIVEN THE

06:38:27.250 --> 06:38:28.551
INCREASING CAPABILITIES. AND I

06:38:28.618 --> 06:38:30.086
ASKED THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I

06:38:30.152 --> 06:38:31.654
THINK ONE OF THE MAIN CONCERNS

06:38:31.721 --> 06:38:33.222
THAT I'VE HEARD, YOU KNOW, FROM

06:38:33.289 --> 06:38:35.458
MY CONSTITUENTS IS, I THINK OUT

06:38:35.524 --> 06:38:36.859
OF ALL THESE THINGS, THE

06:38:36.926 --> 06:38:38.194
QUESTIONS THAT HE HAD WAS JUST

06:38:38.261 --> 06:38:39.729
ABOUT THE SURVEILLANCE ISSUE.

06:38:39.795 --> 06:38:41.530
AND ARE WE ESSENTIALLY CREATING

06:38:41.597 --> 06:38:43.633
LIKE A SYSTEM WHERE WE'RE

06:38:43.699 --> 06:38:44.867
TRACKING EVERYBODY THAT HAPPENS

06:38:44.934 --> 06:38:47.637
TO OWN A 3D PRINTER, INCLUDING

06:38:47.703 --> 06:38:48.371
INDIVIDUALS LIKE HIMSELF? THE

06:38:48.437 --> 06:38:49.405
INDIVIDUAL I'M TALKING ABOUT

06:38:49.472 --> 06:38:51.040
LIVES IN THE CITY OF MONTEREY

06:38:51.107 --> 06:38:52.275
PARK. I REPRESENT THE CITY OF

06:38:52.341 --> 06:38:53.209
MONTEREY PARK, IF YOU'RE

06:38:53.276 --> 06:38:54.243
FAMILIAR. WE HAD A MASS

06:38:54.310 --> 06:38:55.378
SHOOTING THAT HAPPENED ABOUT

06:38:55.444 --> 06:38:58.581
FOUR YEARS AGO AND HAD A NUMBER

06:38:58.648 --> 06:39:00.516
OF INDIVIDUALS WHO DIED AS A

06:39:00.583 --> 06:39:02.318
RESULT OF THAT MASS SHOOTING.

06:39:02.385 --> 06:39:04.353
AND SO THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT HE

06:39:04.420 --> 06:39:06.055
CARES A LOT ABOUT PERSONALLY,

06:39:06.122 --> 06:39:07.823
BUT ALSO HAS THESE QUESTIONS

06:39:07.890 --> 06:39:09.625
ABOUT PRIVACY AS WELL. I'M NOT

06:39:09.692 --> 06:39:11.961
QUITE SURE HOW YOU RESOLVE THAT

06:39:12.028 --> 06:39:13.262
HERE, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO JUST

06:39:13.329 --> 06:39:15.131
AND THAT'S IT FOR MY QUESTIONS.

06:39:15.197 --> 06:39:16.365
I'D LOVE TO HAVE YOU SPEAK TO

06:39:16.432 --> 06:39:17.533
THAT. AND, ASSEMBLYWOMAN, IF

06:39:17.600 --> 06:39:19.268
YOU WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT AT

06:39:19.335 --> 06:39:20.403
ALL, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE

06:39:20.469 --> 06:39:22.271
ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN RAISED TO

06:39:22.338 --> 06:39:23.539
ME THAT I'M TRYING TO NAVIGATE

06:39:23.606 --> 06:39:25.374
AS SOMEBODY THAT OBVIOUSLY

06:39:25.441 --> 06:39:26.842
WANTS TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY

06:39:26.909 --> 06:39:28.644
SAFE. AND AT THE SAME TIME, I

06:39:28.711 --> 06:39:29.812
THINK WE HAVE REAL CONCERNS

06:39:29.879 --> 06:39:31.180
ABOUT PRIVACY AND DATA RIGHT

06:39:31.247 --> 06:39:33.382
NOW AS THE CHAIR OF PRIVACY

06:39:33.449 --> 06:39:36.018
WITH SO, SO WELL KNOWN. THANK

06:39:36.085 --> 06:39:38.054
YOU, MR. CHAIR. YES. AND TO

06:39:38.120 --> 06:39:39.455
YOUR POINT, AS THE CHAIR OF

06:39:39.522 --> 06:39:40.990
PRIVACY WHO DEFENDS THE PRIVACY

06:39:41.057 --> 06:39:42.958
OF CALIFORNIANS, AND I BELIEVE

06:39:43.025 --> 06:39:46.762
I DO TRY EVERY DAY, THAT'S

06:39:46.829 --> 06:39:47.430
OBVIOUSLY A CRITICALLY

06:39:47.496 --> 06:39:49.231
IMPORTANT PIECE OF ANY

06:39:49.298 --> 06:39:50.232
LEGISLATION THAT MOVES THROUGH

06:39:50.299 --> 06:39:52.435
THIS PROCESS. AND SO, YOU KNOW,

06:39:52.501 --> 06:39:53.636
THAT IS A QUESTION I'VE ASKED

06:39:53.703 --> 06:39:55.237
OF EXPERTS. I'VE MET WITH

06:39:55.304 --> 06:39:57.473
ACADEMIC RESEARCHERS THAT

06:39:57.540 --> 06:39:58.474
RESEARCH THE TECHNOLOGY AT

06:39:58.541 --> 06:39:59.475
BERKELEY, AT DARTMOUTH, AT

06:39:59.542 --> 06:40:01.077
OTHER UNIVERSITIES, AND THEY'VE

06:40:01.143 --> 06:40:02.445
ASSURED ME THAT THIS WOULD NOT

06:40:02.511 --> 06:40:04.714
BE THAT THE STANDARDS THAT ARE

06:40:04.780 --> 06:40:06.482
SET THROUGH THIS BILL WILL

06:40:06.549 --> 06:40:07.550
ENSURE THAT THIS IS HAPPENING

06:40:07.616 --> 06:40:08.484
LOCALLY, AND WE'RE NOT SENDING

06:40:08.551 --> 06:40:10.252
THE FILES OFF SO THAT WHAT

06:40:10.319 --> 06:40:11.520
YOU'RE PRINTING IS BEING

06:40:11.587 --> 06:40:12.421
SURVEILLED. BUT IF YOU WOULD

06:40:12.488 --> 06:40:14.256
LIKE MORE DETAILS, I'M SURE MY

06:40:14.323 --> 06:40:15.257
WITNESS COULD PROVIDE BETTER

06:40:15.324 --> 06:40:18.661
TECHNICAL DEPTH ON THAT. DOES

06:40:18.728 --> 06:40:19.829
THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR DO

06:40:19.895 --> 06:40:22.631
YOU WANT ADDITIONAL BACKGROUND?

06:40:22.698 --> 06:40:26.035
I THINK THAT OKAY, OKAY. THANK

06:40:26.102 --> 06:40:27.203
YOU, SENATOR, FOR YOUR QUESTION.

06:40:27.269 --> 06:40:28.938
I THINK I THINK THAT ANSWERED

06:40:29.004 --> 06:40:30.906
YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. OKAY.

06:40:30.973 --> 06:40:34.577
EXCUSE ME. ONCE AGAIN, NO

06:40:34.643 --> 06:40:36.345
OUTBURSTS ARE TOLERATED. NO

06:40:36.412 --> 06:40:37.513
CLAPPING, NO INTERRUPTING. IF

06:40:37.580 --> 06:40:39.615
YOU CONTINUE TO DISRUPT THE

06:40:39.682 --> 06:40:42.385
MEETING, YOU'LL BE ESCORTED OUT.

06:40:42.451 --> 06:40:44.587
WE WILL HAVE DECORUM AS WE

06:40:44.653 --> 06:40:47.490
CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. VICE

06:40:47.556 --> 06:40:49.992
CHAIR SATO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:40:50.059 --> 06:40:51.227
ALL RIGHT. SO I'M GOING TO GET

06:40:51.293 --> 06:40:53.229
AWAY FROM THE TECHNICAL STUFF

06:40:53.295 --> 06:40:54.463
AND I'M GOING TO THINK LIKE A

06:40:54.530 --> 06:40:56.932
LITTLE CRIMINAL. OKAY? I WANT

06:40:56.999 --> 06:40:58.634
TO MAKE GHOST GUNS. AND I HAVE

06:40:58.701 --> 06:41:00.536
MY LITTLE 3D PRINTER AT HOME. I

06:41:00.603 --> 06:41:01.704
KNOW IT'S ILLEGAL. I'M GOING TO

06:41:01.771 --> 06:41:03.539
MAKE MY LITTLE GHOST GUN OR

06:41:03.606 --> 06:41:05.207
WHATEVER IT IS. YOU SAY IT'S

06:41:05.274 --> 06:41:06.842
ILLEGAL. I ALREADY KNOW IT. I'M

06:41:06.909 --> 06:41:08.477
ALREADY BREAKING THE LAW. NOW

06:41:08.544 --> 06:41:10.379
YOU TELL ME, OH, WE'RE GOING TO

06:41:10.446 --> 06:41:11.547
COME IN AND MAKE YOU PUT A

06:41:11.614 --> 06:41:13.482
THING IN THERE. I'M NOT GOING

06:41:13.549 --> 06:41:15.451
TO. I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN THE

06:41:15.518 --> 06:41:17.453
CLOSET. OR IF I WANT TO GO BUY

06:41:17.520 --> 06:41:19.388
ONE, I'M GOING TO GO OUT OF

06:41:19.455 --> 06:41:20.556
STATE. I'M GOING TO BUY ONE.

06:41:20.623 --> 06:41:22.558
I'M GOING TO PUT IT IN THE BACK

06:41:22.625 --> 06:41:23.726
OF MY TRUCK UNDERNEATH A

06:41:23.793 --> 06:41:25.461
BLANKET. I'M GOING TO BRING IT

06:41:25.528 --> 06:41:26.695
IN, AND I'M GOING TO CONTINUE

06:41:26.762 --> 06:41:28.431
TO DO WHAT'S ILLEGAL BECAUSE I

06:41:28.497 --> 06:41:29.632
DON'T CARE THAT IT'S ILLEGAL.

06:41:29.698 --> 06:41:31.400
THAT'S THAT'S NOT GOING TO STOP

06:41:31.467 --> 06:41:32.601
SOMEBODY WHO IS, IS DOING THIS.

06:41:32.668 --> 06:41:35.137
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS BILL LIKE

06:41:35.204 --> 06:41:38.340
THIS IS INEFFECTIVE IN ITS, YOU

06:41:38.407 --> 06:41:40.409
KNOW, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE THAT

06:41:40.476 --> 06:41:41.811
ALREADY DON'T REALLY CARE WHAT

06:41:41.877 --> 06:41:44.313
THE LAW IS TO STOP WHAT THEY'RE

06:41:44.380 --> 06:41:47.316
DOING. ALL IT'S GOING TO DO IS

06:41:47.383 --> 06:41:50.085
HAVE POTENTIAL REAL

06:41:50.152 --> 06:41:51.887
RAMIFICATIONS FOR PEOPLE THAT

06:41:51.954 --> 06:41:53.289
USE THIS TECHNOLOGY IN

06:41:53.355 --> 06:41:56.625
ADVANCING THE TECHNOLOGY WHILE

06:41:56.692 --> 06:41:58.093
WHILE OTHER PLAYERS COME IN TO

06:41:58.160 --> 06:41:59.862
TRY TO INSTALL THINGS THAT THEY

06:41:59.929 --> 06:42:01.664
DON'T KNOW ARE GOING TO WORK.

06:42:01.730 --> 06:42:03.432
THE WITNESS THAT I THINK KNOWS

06:42:03.499 --> 06:42:06.335
A LOT ABOUT THIS HAS ALREADY

06:42:06.402 --> 06:42:09.238
ALREADY GIVEN US KIND OF THE

06:42:09.305 --> 06:42:10.673
LOWDOWN ON HOW EFFECTIVE THIS

06:42:10.739 --> 06:42:13.209
STUFF IS. SO, YOU KNOW, JUST

06:42:13.275 --> 06:42:14.610
LIKE THE GUN LAWS THAT COME UP

06:42:14.677 --> 06:42:16.712
AGAINST THE SECOND AMENDMENT,

06:42:16.779 --> 06:42:18.914
THEY'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU,

06:42:18.981 --> 06:42:20.516
YOU CAN'T KEEP PASSING THINGS

06:42:20.583 --> 06:42:21.817
THAT ARE AGAINST THE

06:42:21.884 --> 06:42:22.384
CONSTITUTION BECAUSE THEY'RE

06:42:22.451 --> 06:42:24.720
JUST NOT LEGAL. AND WHEN YOU DO

06:42:24.787 --> 06:42:27.223
PASS THINGS LIKE THIS, OKAY,

06:42:27.289 --> 06:42:29.024
YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO

06:42:29.091 --> 06:42:30.926
STOP THEM? NO, IT'S ILLEGAL.

06:42:30.993 --> 06:42:32.361
AND YET, WHAT ARE WE FINDING?

06:42:32.428 --> 06:42:33.395
WE'RE FINDING THAT PEOPLE ARE

06:42:33.462 --> 06:42:35.264
MAKING THEM. SO WHAT DO WE DO?

06:42:35.331 --> 06:42:38.067
WE GO AFTER THOSE PEOPLE. WE GO

06:42:38.133 --> 06:42:40.169
AFTER THOSE PEOPLE. THIS ISN'T

06:42:40.236 --> 06:42:41.937
GOING TO HELP US DO THAT. THIS

06:42:42.004 --> 06:42:43.138
ISN'T GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING.

06:42:43.205 --> 06:42:45.207
ALL THIS IS GOING TO DO IS

06:42:45.274 --> 06:42:48.043
POTENTIALLY CREATE BIG PROBLEMS

06:42:48.110 --> 06:42:49.578
FOR PEOPLE THAT LEGALLY USE

06:42:49.645 --> 06:42:51.981
THIS TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY. WE

06:42:52.047 --> 06:42:53.616
DON'T HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY TO

06:42:53.682 --> 06:42:56.685
SAY THAT THE PRINTER IS GOING

06:42:56.752 --> 06:42:58.521
TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A, OH,

06:42:58.587 --> 06:42:59.955
WAIT A MINUTE, THIS GUY IS

06:43:00.022 --> 06:43:02.791
DOING A GHOST GUN. SO SOMEHOW

06:43:02.858 --> 06:43:04.760
WE'RE GOING TO GRIND THE WHOLE

06:43:04.827 --> 06:43:08.964
THING TO A HALT. IT'S NOT THERE.

06:43:09.031 --> 06:43:10.199
AND AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYBODY

06:43:10.266 --> 06:43:12.902
TELL ME THAT IT IS. I'VE HEARD

06:43:12.968 --> 06:43:14.336
YOU TELL ME IT'S FOUR YEARS

06:43:14.403 --> 06:43:19.708
AWAY. THAT MEANS NOTHING TO ME.

06:43:19.775 --> 06:43:22.578
THIS IS AN INEFFECTIVE APPROACH

06:43:22.645 --> 06:43:25.247
WITH WAY TOO MANY WAY TOO MUCH

06:43:25.314 --> 06:43:26.982
COLLATERAL DAMAGE. THAT'S

06:43:27.049 --> 06:43:30.986
POSSIBLE TO A BURGEONING

06:43:31.053 --> 06:43:32.321
INDUSTRY OUT THERE. FOR A LOT

06:43:32.388 --> 06:43:33.789
OF PEOPLE THAT ARE VERY

06:43:33.856 --> 06:43:36.725
CREATIVE PEOPLE, BY THE WAY,

06:43:36.792 --> 06:43:37.927
THAT THEIR LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS

06:43:37.993 --> 06:43:40.262
ON THIS, THIS TECHNOLOGY. SO

06:43:40.329 --> 06:43:41.697
AGAIN, YOU NEED TO GO AFTER THE

06:43:41.764 --> 06:43:43.899
PEOPLE THAT ARE BREAKING LAWS,

06:43:43.966 --> 06:43:46.435
NOT AFTER THE TECHNOLOGY THAT

06:43:46.502 --> 06:43:47.836
THEY USE, BECAUSE THEY'LL

06:43:47.903 --> 06:43:49.638
CONTINUE TO USE THAT TECHNOLOGY.

06:43:49.705 --> 06:43:51.040
WHETHER YOU MAKE NEW LAWS THAT

06:43:51.106 --> 06:43:54.009
AFFECT EVERYTHING ELSE OR NOT.

06:43:54.076 --> 06:43:56.478
OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR

06:43:56.545 --> 06:43:58.147
COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE

06:43:58.213 --> 06:44:00.449
COMMITTEE, SENATOR CORTEZ?

06:44:00.516 --> 06:44:03.018
THANK YOU, CHAIR, I APPRECIATE

06:44:03.085 --> 06:44:04.820
HEARING BOTH SIDES OF THIS. I'M

06:44:04.887 --> 06:44:05.621
KIND OF HEARING COMMENTS LIKE

06:44:05.688 --> 06:44:07.556
THAT FROM COLLEAGUES, WHETHER

06:44:07.623 --> 06:44:10.292
THEY'RE FOR OR AGAINST. I AM

06:44:10.359 --> 06:44:13.529
VERY PICKY ABOUT FIREARMS

06:44:13.596 --> 06:44:15.631
LEGISLATION, AND THERE'S A LOT

06:44:15.698 --> 06:44:17.199
I DON'T SUPPORT IF IT DOESN'T

06:44:17.266 --> 06:44:19.168
MAKE SENSE. I APPRECIATE THE

06:44:19.234 --> 06:44:20.302
OPPOSITION ARGUMENTS IN THE

06:44:20.369 --> 06:44:23.939
SENSE OF, YOU KNOW, EXPLAINING

06:44:24.006 --> 06:44:26.408
SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW,

06:44:26.475 --> 06:44:28.143
FAIRLY, FAIRLY RECENTLY AND AT

06:44:28.210 --> 06:44:30.346
LEAST IN THE HISTORY OF

06:44:30.412 --> 06:44:33.215
FIREARMS FAIRLY RECENTLY HAS

06:44:33.282 --> 06:44:35.384
BECOME, YOU KNOW, HAS, HAS, HAS

06:44:35.451 --> 06:44:38.220
BECOME AN EMERGING AND FAR

06:44:38.287 --> 06:44:40.155
GREATER USE TECHNOLOGY IN TERMS

06:44:40.222 --> 06:44:43.659
OF 3D PRINTING. BUT AS GOOD AS

06:44:43.726 --> 06:44:46.528
THE ARGUMENTS ARE, WE DON'T WE

06:44:46.595 --> 06:44:48.731
DON'T ALLOW OPEN SOURCE

06:44:48.797 --> 06:44:50.265
FIREARMS PRODUCTION, YOU KNOW,

06:44:50.332 --> 06:44:51.634
WHETHER FIREARMS PRODUCTION IS

06:44:51.700 --> 06:44:54.036
BEING DONE WITH 3D PRINTING

06:44:54.103 --> 06:44:56.672
THROUGH THROUGH SOFTWARE,

06:44:56.739 --> 06:44:58.140
THROUGH GUN FILES, WHICH I

06:44:58.207 --> 06:45:00.009
THINK IS WHAT THIS BILL IS

06:45:00.075 --> 06:45:01.977
TRYING TO TAKE A PIECE OUT OF,

06:45:02.044 --> 06:45:05.280
OR WHETHER FOLKS, YOU KNOW ARE

06:45:05.347 --> 06:45:06.415
SAYING, HEY, THAT'S NOT THAT'S

06:45:06.482 --> 06:45:07.650
NOT HOW IT WORKS. I UNDERSTAND

06:45:07.716 --> 06:45:11.053
THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN

06:45:11.120 --> 06:45:12.087
OPEN SOURCE TECHNOLOGY THAT

06:45:12.154 --> 06:45:13.889
MOST PEOPLE ARE RELYING UPON.

06:45:13.956 --> 06:45:16.392
THAT'S NOT OKAY EITHER. I MEAN,

06:45:16.458 --> 06:45:18.193
IT ISN'T IT ISN'T RECENTLY THAT

06:45:18.260 --> 06:45:19.328
WE STARTED PUTTING SERIAL

06:45:19.395 --> 06:45:21.664
NUMBERS ON FIREARMS. I MEAN,

06:45:21.730 --> 06:45:22.865
THAT'S, THAT GOES BACK DECADES

06:45:22.931 --> 06:45:24.400
AND DECADES AND DECADES. AND

06:45:24.466 --> 06:45:26.168
IT'S NOT JUST A FORCE PEOPLE TO

06:45:26.235 --> 06:45:27.436
REGISTER THEIR GUNS OR WHATEVER.

06:45:27.503 --> 06:45:29.204
IT'S SO THAT YOU CAN TRACE GUNS

06:45:29.271 --> 06:45:31.106
THAT ARE USED IN CRIMES SO THAT

06:45:31.173 --> 06:45:32.307
YOU CAN RECOVER YOUR FIREARM IF

06:45:32.374 --> 06:45:34.109
IT'S BEEN STOLEN, AND YOU CAN

06:45:34.176 --> 06:45:35.110
IDENTIFY THAT THAT'S ACTUALLY

06:45:35.177 --> 06:45:36.345
THE ONE THAT YOU OWN. SO YOU

06:45:36.412 --> 06:45:38.380
CAN INSURE YOUR FIREARMS.

06:45:38.447 --> 06:45:39.782
THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF

06:45:39.848 --> 06:45:41.216
COMMERCIALLY PRACTICABLE

06:45:41.283 --> 06:45:43.419
REASONS THAT WE DON'T ALLOW

06:45:43.485 --> 06:45:45.320
FOLKS TO JUST, YOU KNOW, SORT

06:45:45.387 --> 06:45:47.289
OF PRODUCE FIREARMS. AND BY THE

06:45:47.356 --> 06:45:49.558
WAY, 3D PRINTING ISN'T THE ONLY

06:45:49.625 --> 06:45:51.360
WAY TO DO IT. THERE'S MACHINE

06:45:51.427 --> 06:45:53.095
SHOPS ANYWHERE UP AND DOWN THE

06:45:53.162 --> 06:45:54.229
STATE OF CALIFORNIA, THROUGHOUT

06:45:54.296 --> 06:45:55.330
ALL 50 STATES IN THIS COUNTRY.

06:45:55.397 --> 06:45:57.066
THEY REALLY WANTED TO CREATE A

06:45:57.132 --> 06:45:58.934
FIREARM OVERNIGHT TONIGHT, OR

06:45:59.001 --> 06:46:00.736
PROBABLY DOZENS OF THEM WITHOUT

06:46:00.803 --> 06:46:02.604
SERIAL NUMBERS. AND THEY DO

06:46:02.671 --> 06:46:04.339
SOME DO YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE

06:46:04.406 --> 06:46:05.874
OUT THERE, DOJ AND SO FORTH

06:46:05.941 --> 06:46:08.010
TRYING TO CATCH THEM? IT'S NOT

06:46:08.077 --> 06:46:09.545
OKAY THOUGH. SO I UNDERSTAND

06:46:09.611 --> 06:46:10.946
THE ARGUMENT SAYS, HEY, LOOK,

06:46:11.013 --> 06:46:12.981
YOU GOT TO GET THE THE CRIMINAL,

06:46:13.048 --> 06:46:15.150
THE FELON, NOT DON'T GO AFTER

06:46:15.217 --> 06:46:17.319
THE 3D PRINTERS. BUT IF WE CAN

06:46:17.386 --> 06:46:19.488
TAKE A PIECE OUT OF THE

06:46:19.555 --> 06:46:22.357
ENFORCEMENT SIDE OF IT BY, YOU

06:46:22.424 --> 06:46:25.627
KNOW, ADDRESSING AND, YOU KNOW,

06:46:25.694 --> 06:46:26.662
SOMEONE MIGHT SAY, THIS IS A

06:46:26.729 --> 06:46:27.663
STATEMENT, BILL, YOU'RE JUST

06:46:27.730 --> 06:46:29.331
MAKING A STATEMENT THAT YOU

06:46:29.398 --> 06:46:30.399
DON'T WANT GUNS BEING 3D

06:46:30.466 --> 06:46:32.701
PRINTED. IT IS IT'S I THINK IT

06:46:32.768 --> 06:46:35.337
WANTS TO CREATE A SITUATION

06:46:35.404 --> 06:46:36.338
WHERE THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. BUT

06:46:36.405 --> 06:46:38.173
I ALSO THINK IT'S A STATEMENT,

06:46:38.240 --> 06:46:39.975
ALMOST LIKE IF YOU PUT A, IF

06:46:40.042 --> 06:46:41.944
YOU PUT A, A WARNING ON THE

06:46:42.010 --> 06:46:43.512
SIDE OF EVERY 3D PRINTER THAT

06:46:43.579 --> 06:46:45.681
SAID, IT IS ILLEGAL TO, TO USE

06:46:45.748 --> 06:46:50.018
THIS DEVICE TO CREATE A FIREARM,

06:46:50.085 --> 06:46:52.521
YOU KNOW, AS, AS, AS THEY'VE

06:46:52.588 --> 06:46:54.022
BEEN DEFINED IN CALIFORNIA CODE.

06:46:54.089 --> 06:46:56.158
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU

06:46:56.225 --> 06:46:58.660
SEGREGATE BB GUNS. I DON'T

06:46:58.727 --> 06:47:01.997
REALLY RECOMMEND ANY MORE. EVEN

06:47:02.064 --> 06:47:04.399
THOUGH I GREW UP WITH THEM

06:47:04.466 --> 06:47:05.234
PROMULGATING A WHOLE BUNCH OF

06:47:05.300 --> 06:47:07.069
TOY GUNS OR CHOCOLATE GUNS OR

06:47:07.136 --> 06:47:08.170
THINGS LIKE THAT TO GIVE TO

06:47:08.237 --> 06:47:11.607
YOUR KIDS, UNLESS YOU WANT TO

06:47:11.673 --> 06:47:12.674
PUT THEM THROUGH FULL GUN

06:47:12.741 --> 06:47:13.842
TRAINING AND, YOU KNOW, HUNTER

06:47:13.909 --> 06:47:14.877
SAFETY COURSE AND EVERYTHING

06:47:14.943 --> 06:47:16.612
ELSE, THEY ACTUALLY KNOW HOW TO

06:47:16.678 --> 06:47:18.547
HANDLE THESE THINGS. SO I'M

06:47:18.614 --> 06:47:19.882
SYMPATHETIC, BUT I ALSO THINK

06:47:19.948 --> 06:47:20.983
THE INDUSTRY NEEDS TO COME

06:47:21.049 --> 06:47:22.084
FORWARD WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO

06:47:22.151 --> 06:47:23.886
TACKLE THESE ISSUES, LIKE THE

06:47:23.952 --> 06:47:25.687
AUTHOR, AND OFFER AMENDMENTS

06:47:25.754 --> 06:47:28.590
THAT WILL HELP CLEAN THINGS UP.

06:47:28.657 --> 06:47:30.392
I KNOW IT'S GETTING LATE IN THE

06:47:30.459 --> 06:47:31.693
SESSION. I'M SURE YOU IT SOUNDS

06:47:31.760 --> 06:47:32.694
LIKE YOU'RE WILLING TO WORK

06:47:32.761 --> 06:47:35.063
WITH THEM ON TRYING TO TAKE OUT,

06:47:35.130 --> 06:47:36.565
TAKE SOME OF THE EDGES OFF OF

06:47:36.632 --> 06:47:37.666
THIS, THAT THAT MIGHT STILL

06:47:37.733 --> 06:47:38.867
EXIST, BUT I'M GOING TO SUPPORT

06:47:38.934 --> 06:47:41.136
IT TODAY JUST BECAUSE, AS YOU

06:47:41.203 --> 06:47:43.305
KNOW, I CHAIR THE OUTDOOR

06:47:43.372 --> 06:47:45.474
CAUCUS HERE. I JUST DON'T SEE

06:47:45.541 --> 06:47:47.276
THE NEED. AND I APOLOGIZE FOR

06:47:47.342 --> 06:47:49.211
THOSE WHO DO. BUT WE HAVE A

06:47:49.278 --> 06:47:50.045
DIFFERENCE OF OPINION ON THAT.

06:47:50.112 --> 06:47:52.381
I JUST DON'T SEE THAT I HAVE A

06:47:52.447 --> 06:47:53.382
NEED. WHEN HUNTING SEASON

06:47:53.448 --> 06:47:55.350
STARTS NEXT MONTH IN CALIFORNIA,

06:47:55.417 --> 06:47:58.053
TO HAVE A THREE D PRODUCED

06:47:58.120 --> 06:48:00.155
FIREARM. I DO UNDERSTAND THAT

06:48:00.222 --> 06:48:03.058
PEOPLE WANT TO HAVE FREEDOM IN

06:48:03.125 --> 06:48:04.693
TERMS, JUST LIKE WOZNIAK DID,

06:48:04.760 --> 06:48:06.762
IN TERMS OF EXPERIMENTING WITH

06:48:06.829 --> 06:48:07.796
THINGS YOU COULD PRODUCE WITH

06:48:07.863 --> 06:48:08.831
THIS TECHNOLOGY. AND WE'RE

06:48:08.897 --> 06:48:10.465
GOING GREAT. THINGS ARE GOING

06:48:10.532 --> 06:48:11.767
TO COME FROM THAT. ACCIDENTAL

06:48:11.834 --> 06:48:12.768
DISCOVERIES ARE GOING TO COME

06:48:12.835 --> 06:48:14.536
FROM THAT. JUST LIKE HE KIND OF

06:48:14.603 --> 06:48:16.104
ACCIDENTALLY DISCOVERED THE

06:48:16.171 --> 06:48:17.172
PERSONAL COMPUTER. WE WANT YOU

06:48:17.239 --> 06:48:19.107
ALL TO BE DOING THAT. WE LOVE

06:48:19.174 --> 06:48:20.776
THAT ABOUT CALIFORNIA. BUT I

06:48:20.843 --> 06:48:23.245
DON'T THINK GUNS, I DON'T THINK

06:48:23.312 --> 06:48:25.781
COMING AFTER A BILL THAT'S

06:48:25.848 --> 06:48:27.616
TRYING TO MINIMIZE THE

06:48:27.683 --> 06:48:29.785
PRODUCTION OF FIREARMS, THAT

06:48:29.852 --> 06:48:31.186
DON'T HAVE SERIAL NUMBERS THAT

06:48:31.253 --> 06:48:32.621
ARE REGISTERED WITH THE DOJ, I

06:48:32.688 --> 06:48:35.224
DON'T THINK THAT'S THE WAY TO

06:48:35.290 --> 06:48:36.625
PROMOTE ANY ANY OF THE REAL

06:48:36.692 --> 06:48:38.760
GOOD STUFF. SO I'M SUPPORTING

06:48:38.827 --> 06:48:41.196
THE BILL, AND I APPRECIATE THE

06:48:41.263 --> 06:48:42.698
CHAIR BEARING WITH ME TO

06:48:42.764 --> 06:48:43.932
EXPLAIN. I THINK THE CHAIR

06:48:43.999 --> 06:48:45.267
KNOWS I DON'T. I LAND IN

06:48:45.334 --> 06:48:47.169
DIFFERENT PLACES. I HAVEN'T

06:48:47.236 --> 06:48:48.904
BEEN A BIG SUPPORTER OF

06:48:48.971 --> 06:48:51.306
HARDWARE RESTRICTIONS ON

06:48:51.373 --> 06:48:52.875
FIREARMS. I THINK WE'VE KIND OF

06:48:52.941 --> 06:48:54.042
REALLY NEED TO START FOCUSING

06:48:54.109 --> 06:48:56.411
ON THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ARE

06:48:56.478 --> 06:48:57.279
RUNNING AROUND THAT SHOULDN'T

06:48:57.346 --> 06:48:58.547
HAVE FIREARMS IN THE FIRST

06:48:58.614 --> 06:48:59.948
PLACE. THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE I'D

06:49:00.015 --> 06:49:01.750
LIKE TO SEE US FOCUS MORE. BUT

06:49:01.817 --> 06:49:04.019
THIS PREVENTS SOME OF THAT TOO.

06:49:04.086 --> 06:49:06.088
AND IT CERTAINLY PREVENTS YOUNG

06:49:06.154 --> 06:49:08.257
PEOPLE WHO MAY BE VERY WELL

06:49:08.323 --> 06:49:11.426
INTENTIONED BUT ARE HAVING

06:49:11.493 --> 06:49:12.961
MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, WHICH IS

06:49:13.028 --> 06:49:14.029
EXTRAORDINARILY COMMON RIGHT

06:49:14.096 --> 06:49:16.498
NOW, WHO REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE

06:49:16.565 --> 06:49:18.734
A GUN IN THEIR HANDS AT THAT

06:49:18.800 --> 06:49:21.270
MOMENT FROM FROM DOING THAT?

06:49:21.336 --> 06:49:23.038
POSSIBLY. AND I THINK THE BILL

06:49:23.105 --> 06:49:24.473
WOULD PROBABLY SAVE LIVES AT

06:49:24.539 --> 06:49:28.477
SOME POINT. SO I APOLOGIZE FOR

06:49:28.543 --> 06:49:29.478
MAKING TWO SEPARATE STATEMENTS

06:49:29.544 --> 06:49:30.512
THERE AGAIN, CHAIR, THANK YOU

06:49:30.579 --> 06:49:32.814
FOR BEARING WITH ME. THANK YOU

06:49:32.881 --> 06:49:35.350
VERY MUCH, SENATOR CABALLERO.

06:49:35.417 --> 06:49:36.818
AND IN THE INTEREST OF TIME,

06:49:36.885 --> 06:49:40.689
I'M GOING TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUE

06:49:40.756 --> 06:49:43.191
IN HIS STATEMENT. I DON'T

06:49:43.258 --> 06:49:45.761
ALWAYS I'M VERY SELECTIVE IN

06:49:45.827 --> 06:49:48.230
THE GUN BILLS THAT I SUPPORT

06:49:48.297 --> 06:49:51.433
BECAUSE I WANT I DON'T WANT TO

06:49:51.500 --> 06:49:53.235
VOTE JUST BECAUSE IT LOOKS GOOD.

06:49:53.302 --> 06:49:55.037
IT'S GOT TO WORK. AND I'M I'M

06:49:55.103 --> 06:49:57.572
FROM A HUNTING FAMILY. THEY

06:49:57.639 --> 06:49:59.875
TOOK ME OUT TO SHOW ME HOW TO

06:49:59.942 --> 06:50:01.810
SHOOT A GUN WHEN I WAS TEN

06:50:01.877 --> 06:50:03.045
YEARS OLD. I DIDN'T LIKE IT. SO

06:50:03.111 --> 06:50:04.947
I HAVEN'T TOUCHED A GUN SINCE.

06:50:05.013 --> 06:50:07.382
BUT BUT BUT THEY HUNTED AND

06:50:07.449 --> 06:50:08.717
THEY ATE EVERYTHING. THEY

06:50:08.784 --> 06:50:11.586
HUNTED AND THEY LIVED OUT IN

06:50:11.653 --> 06:50:14.423
RURAL AREA OF ARIZONA. SO I

06:50:14.489 --> 06:50:15.857
WANT THE GUNS TO MAKE SENSE.

06:50:15.924 --> 06:50:18.427
BUT I ALSO THINK THERE THERE'S

06:50:18.493 --> 06:50:19.494
SOMETHING HERE. I'M GOING TO

06:50:19.561 --> 06:50:21.496
VOTE FOR IT TODAY. I MAY NOT ON

06:50:21.563 --> 06:50:23.865
THE FLOOR. I THINK THERE'S SOME

06:50:23.932 --> 06:50:26.001
MORE DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO

06:50:26.068 --> 06:50:28.770
BE HAD. AND I REALLY APPRECIATE

06:50:28.837 --> 06:50:30.339
EVERYBODY COMING OUT HERE TODAY,

06:50:30.405 --> 06:50:32.841
BECAUSE I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT

06:50:32.908 --> 06:50:35.744
THE APPLICATIONS OF, OF, OF

06:50:35.811 --> 06:50:37.913
THAT TECHNOLOGY TO BE ABLE TO

06:50:37.980 --> 06:50:39.281
CREATE THINGS THAT DO REALLY

06:50:39.348 --> 06:50:42.584
GOOD THINGS IN, IN OUR LIVES.

06:50:42.651 --> 06:50:44.720
AND I APPRECIATE IT. SO THANK

06:50:44.786 --> 06:50:47.255
YOU VERY MUCH. AND I WILL BE

06:50:47.322 --> 06:50:50.592
VOTING YES TODAY. ANY OTHER

06:50:50.659 --> 06:50:53.729
COMMENTS? BACK OVER TO CLOSE.

06:50:53.795 --> 06:50:54.830
THANK YOU. SENATORS. I

06:50:54.896 --> 06:50:55.864
APPRECIATE THE ROBUST

06:50:55.931 --> 06:50:59.101
CONVERSATION. I AGREE WITH THE

06:50:59.167 --> 06:51:00.602
SENATOR THAT I APPRECIATE

06:51:00.669 --> 06:51:01.970
EVERYONE WHO SHOWED UP TODAY TO

06:51:02.037 --> 06:51:03.071
SUPPORT AND OPPOSE THE BILL. I

06:51:03.138 --> 06:51:04.506
THINK THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE

06:51:04.573 --> 06:51:06.775
CRITICALLY IMPORTANT, AND I

06:51:06.842 --> 06:51:07.809
COULDN'T AGREE MORE WITH OUR

06:51:07.876 --> 06:51:09.578
COLLEAGUE FROM SANTA CLARA. I

06:51:09.644 --> 06:51:10.979
THINK I GOT THAT RIGHT, SAN

06:51:11.046 --> 06:51:12.347
JOSE, SORRY, THE SENATOR FROM

06:51:12.414 --> 06:51:15.384
SAN JOSE, THAT THERE IS SO MUCH

06:51:15.450 --> 06:51:16.485
PROMISE IN THIS TECHNOLOGY AND

06:51:16.551 --> 06:51:17.452
EVERY TECHNOLOGY OUT OF

06:51:17.519 --> 06:51:19.087
CALIFORNIA. BUT I THINK WE CAN

06:51:19.154 --> 06:51:20.355
BOTH CREATE THAT PROMISE AND

06:51:20.422 --> 06:51:21.823
STOP THE PRINTING OF THESE

06:51:21.890 --> 06:51:23.125
FIREARMS THAT, TO THE POINT

06:51:23.191 --> 06:51:24.693
THAT WAS MADE, CANNOT BE

06:51:24.760 --> 06:51:26.228
TRACKED AND MONITORED IN THE

06:51:26.294 --> 06:51:27.863
WAY THE OTHER FIREARMS WE SELL

06:51:27.929 --> 06:51:28.897
IN CALIFORNIA WILL. SO WITH

06:51:28.964 --> 06:51:30.132
THAT, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR

06:51:30.198 --> 06:51:31.767
YOUR AYE VOTE. OKAY. I'LL

06:51:31.833 --> 06:51:33.769
ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THE BILL.

06:51:33.835 --> 06:51:36.238
AB 2047, MOVED BY SENATOR

06:51:36.304 --> 06:51:37.372
CORTEZ. THANK YOU. IF WE CAN,

06:51:37.439 --> 06:51:40.142
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. 2047

06:51:40.208 --> 06:51:41.043
BAUER-KAHAN MOTION IS DO PASS

06:51:41.109 --> 06:51:42.677
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS

06:51:42.744 --> 06:51:45.680
AGAIN. I AGAIN I SAY NØ CIERTO

06:51:45.747 --> 06:51:47.783
NO. CABALLERO. CABALLERO.

06:51:47.849 --> 06:51:51.086
CORTEZ I CORTEZ. I PEREZ.

06:51:51.153 --> 06:51:52.521
WIENER WIENER. AYE WE'LL KEEP

06:51:52.587 --> 06:51:54.189
THAT BILL AND CALL FOR. THANK

06:51:54.256 --> 06:51:56.058
YOU SENATOR. PARENTS CLAIM

06:51:56.124 --> 06:51:59.795
SANTA CLARA IS PRESENT AND I

06:51:59.861 --> 06:52:01.063
BELIEVE SHE'S PRESENTING AN

06:52:01.129 --> 06:52:02.697
ADDITIONAL BILL AS WELL AS A

06:52:02.764 --> 06:52:04.032
BILL ON BEHALF OF ASSEMBLY

06:52:04.099 --> 06:52:08.003
MEMBER PETRIE-NORRIS. AND THEN

06:52:08.070 --> 06:52:10.038
AFTER THAT, WE HAVE A OUR LAST

06:52:10.105 --> 06:52:12.574
BILL PRESENTATION BY

06:52:12.641 --> 06:52:27.456
ASSEMBLYMEMBER BRIAN. OKAY. AND

06:52:27.522 --> 06:52:28.423
WHENEVER YOU'RE READY,

06:52:28.490 --> 06:52:29.157
ASSEMBLYMEMBER, I'M GOING TO

06:52:29.224 --> 06:52:33.495
PRESENT MINE FIRST. YES, YES.

06:52:33.562 --> 06:52:36.698
MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS AB 2113

06:52:36.765 --> 06:52:38.500
PROTECTS THE INTELLECTUAL

06:52:38.567 --> 06:52:40.669
PROPERTY RIGHTS OF ARTISTS

06:52:40.735 --> 06:52:41.770
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTIES AND

06:52:41.837 --> 06:52:42.804
ADDRESSES A GROWING PUBLIC

06:52:42.871 --> 06:52:44.973
SAFETY GAP AT PUBLIC EVENTS DUE

06:52:45.040 --> 06:52:46.374
TO THE GROWING USE OF DRONES

06:52:46.441 --> 06:52:48.610
ACROSS CALIFORNIA, LARGE

06:52:48.677 --> 06:52:49.811
TICKETED ENTERTAINMENT EVENTS

06:52:49.878 --> 06:52:52.114
SUCH AS CONCERTS, FESTIVALS AND

06:52:52.180 --> 06:52:53.949
SPORTING EVENTS BRING THOUSANDS

06:52:54.015 --> 06:52:56.818
OF PEOPLE INTO DENSE, CONFINED

06:52:56.885 --> 06:52:58.420
SPACES, INCLUDING MANY VENUES

06:52:58.487 --> 06:53:01.223
IN MY DISTRICT. UNAUTHORIZED

06:53:01.289 --> 06:53:02.591
DRONES ACTIVITIES IN THESE

06:53:02.657 --> 06:53:04.459
SETTINGS POSES REAL RISKS TO

06:53:04.526 --> 06:53:06.328
PUBLIC SAFETY AND CAN INTERFERE

06:53:06.394 --> 06:53:07.996
WITH EVENT OPERATIONS AND

06:53:08.063 --> 06:53:09.831
EMERGENCY RESPONSE. WHILE THE

06:53:09.898 --> 06:53:11.666
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REGULATES

06:53:11.733 --> 06:53:13.468
AIRSPACE, LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT

06:53:13.535 --> 06:53:15.203
IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PROTECTING

06:53:15.270 --> 06:53:17.372
PUBLIC SAFETY ON THE GROUND.

06:53:17.439 --> 06:53:18.840
YET CURRENT LAW DOES NOT

06:53:18.907 --> 06:53:20.942
PROVIDE A CLEAR STATE LEVEL

06:53:21.009 --> 06:53:22.077
PROHIBITION. ADDRESSING THIS

06:53:22.144 --> 06:53:24.880
ISSUE, AB 2113 CREATES A

06:53:24.946 --> 06:53:27.115
STRAIGHTFORWARD PROHIBITION ON

06:53:27.182 --> 06:53:28.550
OPERATING UNAUTHORIZED DRONES

06:53:28.617 --> 06:53:31.786
WITHIN 400FT OF, OR DIRECTLY

06:53:31.853 --> 06:53:34.256
ABOVE A LARGE OUTDOOR, TICKETED

06:53:34.322 --> 06:53:36.458
ENTERTAINMENT VENUE. THIS BILL

06:53:36.525 --> 06:53:39.294
ESTABLISHES A $500 INFRACTION

06:53:39.361 --> 06:53:40.929
AND INCLUDES CLEAR EXEMPTIONS

06:53:40.996 --> 06:53:42.898
FOR AUTHORIZED OPERATORS,

06:53:42.964 --> 06:53:45.400
EMERGENCY PERSONNEL, UTILITY

06:53:45.467 --> 06:53:47.335
WORKERS AND OTHER ACTING AND

06:53:47.402 --> 06:53:48.470
OTHERS ACTING WITHIN THE SCOPE

06:53:48.537 --> 06:53:50.639
OF THEIR DUTIES. MY OFFICE AND

06:53:50.705 --> 06:53:52.207
THE SPONSOR HAVE BEEN ENGAGING

06:53:52.274 --> 06:53:53.208
WITH STAKEHOLDERS THROUGHOUT

06:53:53.275 --> 06:53:55.143
THIS PROCESS, AND I WANT TO

06:53:55.210 --> 06:53:56.912
THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR

06:53:56.978 --> 06:53:58.780
PATIENCE AND COLLABORATION. WE

06:53:58.847 --> 06:54:00.148
REMAIN COMMITTED TO WORKING IN

06:54:00.215 --> 06:54:01.349
GOOD FAITH AS THE BILL MOVES

06:54:01.416 --> 06:54:04.152
FORWARD TO ADDRESS CONCERNS OF

06:54:04.219 --> 06:54:05.287
STAKEHOLDERS, I RESPECTFULLY

06:54:05.353 --> 06:54:07.789
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE AND MY

06:54:07.856 --> 06:54:09.891
WITNESSES, JOSH. STEVE STEVENS

06:54:09.958 --> 06:54:11.860
FROM LIVE NATION. THANK YOU.

06:54:11.927 --> 06:54:13.195
GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

06:54:13.261 --> 06:54:14.596
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND

06:54:14.663 --> 06:54:15.664
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. THANK

06:54:15.730 --> 06:54:17.265
YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO

06:54:17.332 --> 06:54:18.400
ADDRESS YOU TODAY. MY NAME IS

06:54:18.466 --> 06:54:19.501
JOSH STEVENS. I'M HERE ON

06:54:19.568 --> 06:54:21.169
BEHALF OF LIVE NATION,

06:54:21.236 --> 06:54:22.571
TICKETMASTER. I'M HERE TODAY

06:54:22.637 --> 06:54:24.506
SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF AB 2113 AS

06:54:24.573 --> 06:54:26.041
A NECESSARY AND SIGNIFICANT

06:54:26.107 --> 06:54:27.642
IMPROVEMENT ON PUBLIC SAFETY

06:54:27.709 --> 06:54:29.010
REGULATIONS FOR LIVE OUTDOOR

06:54:29.077 --> 06:54:30.111
EVENTS AND THE LARGE CROWDS

06:54:30.178 --> 06:54:32.247
THEY ATTRACT. LAST YEAR ALONE,

06:54:32.314 --> 06:54:33.915
WE WELCOMED MILLIONS OF FANS TO

06:54:33.982 --> 06:54:35.217
LIVE NATION EVENTS ACROSS

06:54:35.283 --> 06:54:37.352
THOUSANDS OF CONCERTS. MODERN

06:54:37.419 --> 06:54:38.286
TECHNOLOGIES SUCH AS DRONES AND

06:54:38.353 --> 06:54:40.222
OTHER UNMANNED AERIAL VEHICLES

06:54:40.288 --> 06:54:41.289
PRESENT A NEW CHALLENGE FOR

06:54:41.356 --> 06:54:42.791
PUBLIC SAFETY AT LARGE EVENTS,

06:54:42.857 --> 06:54:44.226
AND THIS BILL WOULD BE A

06:54:44.292 --> 06:54:45.327
MEANINGFUL STEP TO SOLVING THAT

06:54:45.393 --> 06:54:47.062
CHALLENGE. RECREATIONAL DRONE

06:54:47.128 --> 06:54:48.129
USAGE HAS INCREASED

06:54:48.196 --> 06:54:48.830
SUBSTANTIALLY OVER THE PAST

06:54:48.897 --> 06:54:50.999
FIVE YEARS, MORE THAN 160%

06:54:51.066 --> 06:54:52.734
SINCE 2019, ACCORDING TO THE

06:54:52.801 --> 06:54:54.603
FAA. AND OUR OPERATIONAL

06:54:54.669 --> 06:54:56.705
EXPERIENCE REFLECTS THAT DRONE

06:54:56.771 --> 06:54:57.806
INCURSIONS HAVE UNFORTUNATELY

06:54:57.872 --> 06:54:59.274
BECOME MORE COMMON AT ALL TYPES

06:54:59.341 --> 06:55:01.209
OF EVENTS, FROM SMALL CONCERTS

06:55:01.276 --> 06:55:03.211
TO THE LARGEST FESTIVALS.

06:55:03.278 --> 06:55:04.613
DESPITE THAT, REGULATORY

06:55:04.679 --> 06:55:05.714
GUIDELINES HAVE NOT KEPT UP TO

06:55:05.780 --> 06:55:07.616
THIS NEW TREND AND LEAVE EVENT

06:55:07.682 --> 06:55:08.617
ORGANIZERS AND OUR LAW

06:55:08.683 --> 06:55:10.252
ENFORCEMENT PARTNERS VULNERABLE

06:55:10.318 --> 06:55:12.621
TO POTENTIAL BAD ACTORS.

06:55:12.687 --> 06:55:13.655
FEDERAL GUIDELINES AND

06:55:13.722 --> 06:55:15.123
PROCESSES ARE CURRENTLY

06:55:15.190 --> 06:55:16.157
INCONSISTENT FOR EVENT

06:55:16.224 --> 06:55:17.959
ORGANIZERS AND RARELY APPLY TO

06:55:18.026 --> 06:55:19.427
ANY BUT THE LARGEST OF EVENTS,

06:55:19.494 --> 06:55:20.595
SUCH AS THE WORLD CUP MATCHES

06:55:20.662 --> 06:55:22.397
HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN L.A. AND

06:55:22.464 --> 06:55:24.132
THE BAY AREA. WHILE THERE HAVE

06:55:24.199 --> 06:55:25.533
BEEN EFFORTS TO IMPROVE THE

06:55:25.600 --> 06:55:27.002
SITUATION AND STREAMLINE

06:55:27.068 --> 06:55:28.470
TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTION

06:55:28.536 --> 06:55:29.971
PROCESSES WITH THE FAA, THESE

06:55:30.038 --> 06:55:31.673
HAVE NOT LED TO CONSISTENT OR

06:55:31.740 --> 06:55:33.508
MEANINGFUL CHANGE. TO DATE,

06:55:33.575 --> 06:55:34.809
LIVE NATION ALONE HOSTED MORE

06:55:34.876 --> 06:55:37.445
THAN 1000 EVENTS IN 2025, WITH

06:55:37.512 --> 06:55:39.214
10,000 OR MORE ATTENDEES THAT

06:55:39.281 --> 06:55:40.682
DID NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS

06:55:40.749 --> 06:55:43.184
FOR FAA TFRS TO PREVENT DRONE

06:55:43.251 --> 06:55:46.021
USAGE ABOVE THOSE LARGE CROWDS.

06:55:46.087 --> 06:55:47.789
AS A RESULT, NEW STATE LAW

06:55:47.856 --> 06:55:48.923
REMAINS THE BEST OPTION FOR

06:55:48.990 --> 06:55:50.759
HELPING EVENT ORGANIZERS KEEP

06:55:50.825 --> 06:55:52.160
ATTENDEES SAFE AND GIVING LAW

06:55:52.227 --> 06:55:53.628
ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES THE

06:55:53.695 --> 06:55:55.063
REGULATIONS THEY NEED TO TAKE

06:55:55.130 --> 06:55:56.398
ACTION AGAINST UNAUTHORIZED

06:55:56.464 --> 06:55:58.300
DRONE USERS NEAR LIVE EVENTS.

06:55:58.366 --> 06:55:59.801
WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST YOUR

06:55:59.868 --> 06:56:01.269
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU

06:56:01.336 --> 06:56:02.504
VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE

06:56:02.570 --> 06:56:03.805
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR

06:56:03.872 --> 06:56:06.941
AB 2113? PLEASE APPROACH THE

06:56:07.008 --> 06:56:09.411
MICROPHONE SEEING NO ONE ELSE

06:56:09.477 --> 06:56:10.478
COME FORWARD. ARE THERE ANY

06:56:10.545 --> 06:56:24.592
OPPOSITION WITNESSES TO AB 2113?

06:56:24.659 --> 06:56:27.896
THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK

06:56:27.962 --> 06:56:29.331
YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN. MEMBERS OF

06:56:29.397 --> 06:56:30.932
THE COMMITTEE. MY NAME IS MASON

06:56:30.999 --> 06:56:32.867
SISK. I'M WITH OVSI. THE

06:56:32.934 --> 06:56:33.968
ASSOCIATION FOR UNCREWED

06:56:34.035 --> 06:56:35.637
VEHICLE SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL.

06:56:35.704 --> 06:56:36.838
WE'RE THE WORLD'S LARGEST TRADE

06:56:36.905 --> 06:56:38.273
ASSOCIATION DEDICATED TO THE

06:56:38.340 --> 06:56:39.641
ADVANCEMENTS OF ROBOTICS AND

06:56:39.708 --> 06:56:41.242
UNCREWED SYSTEMS. WE REPRESENT

06:56:41.309 --> 06:56:43.311
A BROAD COALITION OF

06:56:43.378 --> 06:56:45.080
STAKEHOLDERS, FROM DRONE

06:56:45.146 --> 06:56:47.582
MANUFACTURERS TO OPERATORS AND

06:56:47.649 --> 06:56:49.884
AND EVEN PUBLIC SAFETY AND

06:56:49.951 --> 06:56:52.253
HIGHER EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS.

06:56:52.320 --> 06:56:54.155
I WANT TO START BY THANKING THE

06:56:54.222 --> 06:56:56.591
THE AUTHOR AND THE SPONSOR.

06:56:56.658 --> 06:56:58.093
WE'VE BEEN HAVING VERY GOOD

06:56:58.159 --> 06:56:59.060
DISCUSSIONS AND HAVE BEEN

06:56:59.127 --> 06:57:00.161
OPERATING IN GOOD FAITH TO

06:57:00.228 --> 06:57:04.132
FIGURE OUT A GOOD WAY TO, TO

06:57:04.199 --> 06:57:09.571
COME TO AN AGREEMENT, OUR, OUR,

06:57:09.637 --> 06:57:14.309
OUR, OUR, OUR. ISSUE WITH THE

06:57:14.376 --> 06:57:17.145
BILL REALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE

06:57:17.212 --> 06:57:18.246
DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE

06:57:18.313 --> 06:57:20.348
LOITERING AND HOVERING AND THE

06:57:20.415 --> 06:57:22.283
DISRUPTIVE USE OF DRONES, WHICH

06:57:22.350 --> 06:57:23.885
IS WHAT THE BILL IS INTENDED TO

06:57:23.952 --> 06:57:26.788
DO, AND SEPARATE THAT FROM THE

06:57:26.855 --> 06:57:28.623
COMMERCIAL, THE COMMERCIAL

06:57:28.690 --> 06:57:30.091
DRONE ACTIVITY THAT MIGHT BE

06:57:30.158 --> 06:57:33.728
FLYING FROM POINT A TO POINT B,

06:57:33.795 --> 06:57:36.931
THAT IS AN FAA EXEMPTION THAT

06:57:36.998 --> 06:57:38.833
WE'VE INCLUDED IN SIMILAR BILLS

06:57:38.900 --> 06:57:40.635
ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN SEVEN

06:57:40.702 --> 06:57:43.805
OTHER STATES AT LEAST. AND IT

06:57:43.872 --> 06:57:45.807
IT REALLY PRESERVES THE THE

06:57:45.874 --> 06:57:47.008
POINT OF THE BILL, WHICH IS TO

06:57:47.075 --> 06:57:50.478
TO GO AFTER THAT DISRUPTIVE AND

06:57:50.545 --> 06:57:52.647
THE THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY

06:57:52.714 --> 06:57:57.018
OF THE ARTISTS. BUT IT DOESN'T

06:57:57.085 --> 06:57:59.154
DISRUPT THE COMMERCIAL

06:57:59.220 --> 06:58:01.256
OPERATIONS THAT THAT SO MANY OF

06:58:01.322 --> 06:58:02.190
THE COMMUNITIES AROUND THE

06:58:02.257 --> 06:58:04.893
STATE ARE, ARE ALREADY REAPING

06:58:04.959 --> 06:58:07.395
THE BENEFITS OF. SO I WOULD ASK

06:58:07.462 --> 06:58:11.399
THAT THAT THE COMMITTEE NOT

06:58:11.466 --> 06:58:13.168
SUPPORT THE THE BILL UNTIL WE

06:58:13.234 --> 06:58:14.569
HAVE LANGUAGE FIGURED OUT. I

06:58:14.636 --> 06:58:16.004
THINK WE'RE CLOSE. WE'VE BEEN

06:58:16.070 --> 06:58:17.439
WORKING TOGETHER IN THE LAST

06:58:17.505 --> 06:58:19.274
FEW WEEKS, AND I THINK THAT

06:58:19.340 --> 06:58:20.608
THAT WE'RE GOING TO. I'M

06:58:20.675 --> 06:58:21.709
OPTIMISTIC THAT WE'LL GET SOME

06:58:21.776 --> 06:58:22.710
LANGUAGE TOGETHER THAT WILL

06:58:22.777 --> 06:58:25.046
SUIT BOTH OUR NEEDS. THANK YOU.

06:58:25.113 --> 06:58:26.481
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE

06:58:26.548 --> 06:58:27.749
ANY OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES

06:58:27.816 --> 06:58:32.153
FOR AB 2113? SEEING NO ONE ELSE

06:58:32.220 --> 06:58:34.422
COME FORWARD? WE HAVE A MOTION

06:58:34.489 --> 06:58:36.257
BY VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU.

06:58:36.324 --> 06:58:36.925
COLLEAGUES. ANY ADDITIONAL

06:58:36.991 --> 06:58:37.959
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE

06:58:38.026 --> 06:58:40.528
BILL? SEEING NONE, I'LL TURN IT

06:58:40.595 --> 06:58:41.996
BACK OVER. THE AUTHOR TO CLOSE.

06:58:42.063 --> 06:58:43.531
WELL, I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR AN

06:58:43.598 --> 06:58:44.732
AYE VOTE. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE

06:58:44.799 --> 06:58:46.634
HAVE A MOTION BY VICE CHAIR OF

06:58:46.701 --> 06:58:48.102
THE COMMITTEE. PLEASE CALL THE

06:58:48.169 --> 06:58:50.605
ROLL. AB 2113. MOTION IS TO

06:58:50.672 --> 06:58:53.608
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. I

06:58:53.675 --> 06:58:57.479
AGAIN, I SAY. COR TÚI CABALLERO.

06:58:57.545 --> 06:58:59.981
CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ.

06:59:00.048 --> 06:59:01.082
WIENER. WE'LL KEEP THAT BILL

06:59:01.149 --> 06:59:02.283
AND CALL FOR ABSENT SENATORS.

06:59:02.350 --> 06:59:03.985
THANK YOU, THANK YOU. AND I

06:59:04.052 --> 06:59:05.386
BELIEVE YOU'LL BE PRESENTING

06:59:05.453 --> 06:59:08.256
FILE TÂM 38AB2553. YES. THANK

06:59:08.323 --> 06:59:11.526
YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND MEMBERS A B

06:59:11.593 --> 06:59:15.597
553 WILL I HAVE WILL CORRECT

06:59:15.663 --> 06:59:18.366
THE PROBLEM. REAL ESTATE FRAUD

06:59:18.433 --> 06:59:20.902
CAN DEVASTATE VICTIMS

06:59:20.969 --> 06:59:21.903
FINANCIALLY WHICH CAN STRIP

06:59:21.970 --> 06:59:24.172
THEM OF THEIR HOMES, LIFE

06:59:24.239 --> 06:59:25.907
SAVINGS OR BOTH. YET UNDER

06:59:25.974 --> 06:59:27.342
CURRENT LAW, COURTS MAY LACK

06:59:27.408 --> 06:59:29.511
ADEQUATE TIME TO ENSURE THAT

06:59:29.577 --> 06:59:31.613
OFFENDERS COMPLETE THE

06:59:31.679 --> 06:59:33.081
REHABILITATIVE PROGRAMING

06:59:33.147 --> 06:59:34.482
NECESSARY TO ADDRESS THE

06:59:34.549 --> 06:59:36.351
UNDERLYING CONDUCT. PROGRAMING

06:59:36.417 --> 06:59:38.453
SUCH AS FINANCIAL

06:59:38.520 --> 06:59:39.988
ACCOUNTABILITY COURSES AND

06:59:40.054 --> 06:59:41.689
FRAUD PREVENTION EDUCATION CAN

06:59:41.756 --> 06:59:43.491
HELP, BUT ONLY IF OFFENDERS

06:59:43.558 --> 06:59:45.593
REMAIN UNDER COURT SUPERVISION

06:59:45.660 --> 06:59:47.795
LONG ENOUGH TO COMPLETE IT. IN

06:59:47.862 --> 06:59:51.099
PRACTICE, THIS MEANS COURTS CAN

06:59:51.165 --> 06:59:52.767
ASK. COURTS ARE SOMETIMES LEFT

06:59:52.834 --> 06:59:54.469
WITHOUT THE DISCRETION THEY

06:59:54.536 --> 06:59:56.137
NEED IN SERIOUS FELONY CASES

06:59:56.204 --> 06:59:58.273
WHERE ADDITIONAL SUPERVISION

06:59:58.339 --> 07:00:00.141
SUPERVISION IS WARRANTED. AND

07:00:00.208 --> 07:00:01.976
ACTUALLY THE AUTHOR IS

07:00:02.043 --> 07:00:03.011
ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE

07:00:03.077 --> 07:00:04.078
AMENDMENTS. I FORGOT TO SAY

07:00:04.145 --> 07:00:06.014
THAT. LET ME MAKE SURE TO MAKE

07:00:06.080 --> 07:00:07.081
THAT CLEAR. THE SOLUTION TO

07:00:07.148 --> 07:00:09.450
THIS IS A B 553 GIVES COURTS

07:00:09.517 --> 07:00:11.419
LIMITED DISCRETIONARY AUTHORITY

07:00:11.486 --> 07:00:13.054
TO EXTEND PROBATION FOR UP TO

07:00:13.121 --> 07:00:15.189
ONE YEAR FOR INDIVIDUALS

07:00:15.256 --> 07:00:17.725
CONVICTED OF FELONY REAL ESTATE

07:00:17.792 --> 07:00:19.928
CRIMES, BUT ONLY WHEN THE COURT

07:00:19.994 --> 07:00:20.995
FINDS THAT MORE TIME IS

07:00:21.062 --> 07:00:22.397
NECESSARY TO COMPLETE

07:00:22.463 --> 07:00:24.532
PROGRAMING. THIS BILL DOES NOT

07:00:24.599 --> 07:00:26.701
MANDATE EXTRA PROBATION.

07:00:26.768 --> 07:00:28.937
INSTEAD, ANY EXTENSION REQUIRES

07:00:29.003 --> 07:00:30.672
INDIVIDUALIZED JUDICIAL REVIEW

07:00:30.738 --> 07:00:33.575
BASED ON THE FACTS OF THE CASE.

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AB 553 IS A TARGETED APPROACH

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THAT GIVES JUDGES THE

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ADDITIONAL TIME NEEDED TO

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ENSURE OFFENDERS OF REAL ESTATE

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FRAUD COMPETITIVE NECESSARY

07:00:43.351 --> 07:00:45.086
PROGRAMING SUCH AS FINANCIAL

07:00:45.153 --> 07:00:47.989
ACCOUNTABILITY COURSES OR FRAUD

07:00:48.056 --> 07:00:50.091
PREVENTION. AND WITH THAT, I

07:00:50.158 --> 07:00:51.593
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE,

07:00:51.659 --> 07:00:52.994
AND I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE OUR

07:00:53.061 --> 07:00:56.998
WITNESS. THANK YOU. APOLOGIES.

07:00:57.065 --> 07:00:58.366
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND

07:00:58.433 --> 07:00:59.834
MEMBERS. NATHAN SCOTT, ON

07:00:59.901 --> 07:01:00.935
BEHALF OF THE CALIFORNIA

07:01:01.002 --> 07:01:03.404
ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS HERE IN

07:01:03.471 --> 07:01:07.041
PROUD SPONSOR OF AB 2553. WE

07:01:07.108 --> 07:01:08.142
APPRECIATE ASSEMBLY MEMBER

07:01:08.209 --> 07:01:09.143
PETRIE-NORRIS AND THE COMMITTEE

07:01:09.210 --> 07:01:10.612
FOR WORKING WITH US TO

07:01:10.678 --> 07:01:11.713
SUBSTANTIALLY NARROW THIS

07:01:11.779 --> 07:01:12.880
MEASURE. AND, OF COURSE,

07:01:12.947 --> 07:01:13.915
ASSEMBLY MEMBER TINA MACKINNON

07:01:13.982 --> 07:01:15.750
FOR HELPING PITCH IT AND

07:01:15.817 --> 07:01:17.885
PRESENT THIS BILL TODAY. THE

07:01:17.952 --> 07:01:18.886
AMENDMENTS, BEFORE YOU REMOVE

07:01:18.953 --> 07:01:19.988
MISDEMEANOR OFFENSES FROM THE

07:01:20.054 --> 07:01:21.456
BILL, AS WAS MENTIONED,

07:01:21.522 --> 07:01:22.824
LIMITING ITS APPLICATION TO

07:01:22.890 --> 07:01:25.093
INDIVIDUALS CAN CONVICTED OF

07:01:25.159 --> 07:01:26.894
SPECIFIED FELONY REAL ESTATE

07:01:26.961 --> 07:01:28.529
CRIMES. FOR MOST CALIFORNIANS,

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BUYING AND SELLING A HOME IS

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THE SINGLE LARGEST FINANCIAL

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TRANSACTION OF THEIR LIVES.

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CRIMES SUCH AS DEED FRAUD,

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MORTGAGE FRAUD, FORGED REAL

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ESTATE DOCUMENTS, IDENTITY

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THEFT AND OTHER SOPHISTICATED

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REAL ESTATE FRAUD SCHEMES CAN

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STRIP FAMILIES OF THEIR SAVINGS

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CLOUD TITLE TO THEIR HOMES AND

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LEAVE VICTIMS FACING YEARS OF

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FINANCIAL AND LEGAL HARDSHIP.

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THE AMENDMENTS APPROPRIATELY

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FOCUS THIS BILL ON THOSE MOST

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SERIOUS FELONY OFFENSES, WHERE

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COURTS MAY DETERMINE THAT

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ADDITIONAL REHABILITATIVE

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PROGRAMING IS NECESSARY BEFORE

07:02:01.162 --> 07:02:03.931
THAT PERIOD ENDS. IMPORTANTLY,

07:02:03.998 --> 07:02:06.801
AB 2553 DOES NOT CREATE

07:02:06.868 --> 07:02:08.236
AUTOMATIC PROBATION EXTENSIONS,

07:02:08.302 --> 07:02:10.705
NOR DOES IT INCREASE CRIMINAL

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PENALTIES. THE BILL PRESERVES

07:02:12.974 --> 07:02:14.742
JUDICIAL DISCRETION. A COURT

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MAY EXTEND PROBATION FOR UP TO

07:02:16.911 --> 07:02:19.080
ONE ADDITIONAL YEAR ONLY AFTER

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MAKING A FINDING THAT

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ADDITIONAL TIME IS NECESSARY

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FOR PROGRAMING FOR DEFENDANTS

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ON FORMAL PROBATION. THE

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PROBATION DEPARTMENT MUST FIRST

07:02:27.355 --> 07:02:28.823
PETITION THE COURT BEFORE ANY

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EXTENSION CAN EVEN BE

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CONSIDERED. THIS MEASURED

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APPROACH GIVES COURTS AN

07:02:33.528 --> 07:02:35.263
ADDITIONAL TOOL TO PROMOTE

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REHABILITATION AND

07:02:36.464 --> 07:02:37.031
ACCOUNTABILITY, WHILE

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MAINTAINING APPROPRIATE

07:02:38.232 --> 07:02:40.368
PROCEDURAL SAFEGUARDS AND

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INDIVIDUALIZED JUDICIAL REVIEW.

07:02:42.503 --> 07:02:43.938
THE COMMITTEE'S AMENDMENTS

07:02:44.005 --> 07:02:44.939
SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVE THE BILL

07:02:45.006 --> 07:02:46.507
BY ENSURING IT IS NARROWLY

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TAILORED TO SERIOUS FELONY

07:02:48.609 --> 07:02:49.744
CONDUCT. ADDRESSING CONCERNS

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THAT A BROADER APPLICATION

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COULD HAVE UNINTENDED

07:02:52.280 --> 07:02:53.681
CONSEQUENCES FOR LESS SERIOUS

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OFFENSES, WE APPRECIATE THE

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COMMITTEE'S THOUGHTFUL WORK AND

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THE AUTHOR'S WILLINGNESS TO

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COLLABORATE WITH STAKEHOLDERS

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THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. WE

07:03:00.121 --> 07:03:01.222
BELIEVE THE BILL NOW REFLECTS

07:03:01.289 --> 07:03:02.990
AN APPROPRIATE BALANCE BETWEEN

07:03:03.057 --> 07:03:04.492
PROMOTING MEANINGFUL

07:03:04.559 --> 07:03:05.460
REHABILITATION AND PRESERVING

07:03:05.526 --> 07:03:07.929
JUDICIAL JURISDICTION OR

07:03:07.995 --> 07:03:09.330
DISCRETION. FOR THOSE REASONS,

07:03:09.397 --> 07:03:11.032
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR

07:03:11.099 --> 07:03:13.468
VOTE ON AB 2553. THANK YOU.

07:03:13.534 --> 07:03:14.602
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

07:03:14.669 --> 07:03:18.106
SUPPORT FOR AB 2553? MR.

07:03:18.172 --> 07:03:19.607
CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS. DAN, ON

07:03:19.674 --> 07:03:20.341
BEHALF OF THE LOS ANGELES

07:03:20.408 --> 07:03:21.375
COUNTY DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S

07:03:21.442 --> 07:03:24.946
OFFICE IN SUPPORT. THANK YOU.

07:03:25.012 --> 07:03:26.047
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND

07:03:26.114 --> 07:03:27.215
MEMBERS. FITZPATRICK, ON BEHALF

07:03:27.281 --> 07:03:28.249
OF THE CALIFORNIA DISTRICT

07:03:28.316 --> 07:03:29.650
ATTORNEYS ASSOCIATION AND

07:03:29.717 --> 07:03:31.886
SUPPORT. THANK YOU. OKAY.

07:03:31.953 --> 07:03:32.687
UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE ELSE

07:03:32.754 --> 07:03:33.788
WISHING TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR

07:03:33.855 --> 07:03:36.491
AB 2553, WE'LL TAKE ANY

07:03:36.557 --> 07:03:37.525
OPPOSITION WITNESSES AT THIS

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TIME. CHAIR MEMBERS, MY NAME IS

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ROBERT RODRIGUEZ. I'M A JUDGE

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ADVOCATE WITH ACLU CAL ACTION.

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FIRST, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND

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GRATITUDE TO THE AUTHOR FOR

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ACCEPTING THE COMMITTEE

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AMENDMENTS TO NO LONGER COVER

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MISDEMEANORS. EVEN THOUGH THIS

07:03:56.944 --> 07:03:58.379
IS A POSITIVE AMENDMENT, WE ARE

07:03:58.446 --> 07:03:59.380
STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THE

07:03:59.447 --> 07:04:00.948
APPROACH IN THIS BILL.

07:04:01.015 --> 07:04:01.916
CALIFORNIA HAS IMPLEMENTED

07:04:01.983 --> 07:04:03.451
VARIOUS CRIMINAL JUSTICE

07:04:03.518 --> 07:04:04.585
REFORMS, SHIFTING STATE

07:04:04.652 --> 07:04:06.721
RESOURCES AWAY FROM A LEGACY OF

07:04:06.788 --> 07:04:08.156
OVERINCARCERATION AND TOWARDS

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PREVENTION, INTERVENTION AND

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TREATMENT. HOWEVER, EFFORTS TO

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EXTEND PROBATIONARY PERIODS

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CONTAIN MANY ISSUES THAT ARE

07:04:15.429 --> 07:04:16.397
ANTITHETICAL TO THIS RECENT

07:04:16.464 --> 07:04:17.932
TREND. A COUPLE SESSIONS AGO,

07:04:17.999 --> 07:04:20.034
THE LEGISLATURE PASSED A

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HISTORIC REFORM, WHICH THE

07:04:21.602 --> 07:04:23.971
AUTHOR VOTED AGAINST AB 1950.

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BY THEN, ASSEMBLY MEMBER

07:04:25.473 --> 07:04:28.743
KAMLAGER OF AB 2553 SEEKS TO

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REVERSE THIS PROGRESS AND IS

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PREMATURE. WE ENCOURAGE THE

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LEGISLATURE TO ALLOW FOR THIS

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RECENT REFORM TO CONTINUE

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TAKING EFFECT BEFORE WE MAKE

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ANY FURTHER CHANGES. IN

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ADDITION, A 2018 STUDY FOUND

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THAT A LARGE PORTION OF PEOPLE

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VIOLATE PROBATION AND END UP

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INCARCERATED. AS A RESULT. THE

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SAME STUDY REVEALED THAT 24% OF

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PRISON ADMISSIONS IN CALIFORNIA

07:04:48.362 --> 07:04:50.665
ARE THE RESULT OF SUPERVISED

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VIOLATIONS, VASTLY INCREASING

07:04:52.333 --> 07:04:53.868
THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE SPEND ON

07:04:53.935 --> 07:04:55.336
AN ANNUAL BASIS TO INCARCERATE

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PEOPLE FOR THESE VIOLATIONS.

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PRIOR TO THE AB 1950 REFORM,

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INCARCERATION FOR SUPERVISION

07:05:01.042 --> 07:05:02.510
REVOCATIONS COST CALIFORNIA

07:05:02.577 --> 07:05:03.945
TAXPAYERS AT LEAST 2 BILLION A

07:05:04.011 --> 07:05:06.080
YEAR. WE CANNOT HAVE A DOUBLE

07:05:06.147 --> 07:05:07.548
STANDARD WHERE LEGISLATORS

07:05:07.615 --> 07:05:09.016
OFTEN CITE BUDGETARY RESTRAINT

07:05:09.083 --> 07:05:10.785
FOR INVESTING IN COMMUNITIES TO

07:05:10.852 --> 07:05:12.653
COMBAT THE ROOT CAUSES OF CRIME,

07:05:12.720 --> 07:05:15.089
BUT CONTINUE TO PASS CARCERAL

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REFORMS THAT FURTHER DRAIN

07:05:16.290 --> 07:05:17.658
TAXPAYER RESOURCES WITHOUT

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BATTING AN EYE. FOR THESE

07:05:19.193 --> 07:05:21.195
REASONS, WE RESPECTFULLY URGE A

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NO VOTE ON AB 2553. THANK YOU.

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THANK YOU, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE.

07:05:26.667 --> 07:05:28.336
MY NAME IS SOPHIA NEWHOUSE

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BROWN. AGAIN, I'M A PUBLIC

07:05:29.904 --> 07:05:32.073
DEFENDER IN LOS ANGELES COUNTY

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REPRESENTING THE PUBLIC

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DEFENDERS UNION LOCAL 148 AND

07:05:35.009 --> 07:05:36.711
WE RESPECTFULLY OPPOSE THIS

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BILL. AGAIN, WE'RE OPPOSING

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THIS BILL BECAUSE THERE'S NO

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ADDED BENEFIT TO KEEPING PEOPLE

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ON PROBATION. AGAIN, IT'S JUST

07:05:44.352 --> 07:05:46.454
COSTLY. THE COURT ALREADY

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RETAINS JURISDICTION TO CHANGE,

07:05:48.623 --> 07:05:50.391
MODIFY OR EXTEND SOMEONE'S

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PROBATION IN THE CASE THAT THEY

07:05:51.859 --> 07:05:52.560
HAVEN'T COMPLETED THEIR

07:05:52.627 --> 07:05:54.762
AFFIRMATIVE OBLIGATIONS AND

07:05:54.829 --> 07:05:55.830
THEY'RE ABLE TO GRANT A NEW

07:05:55.897 --> 07:05:57.698
TERM OF PROBATION. IF THE COURT

07:05:57.765 --> 07:05:59.100
FINDS, AFTER HEARING THAT THEY

07:05:59.166 --> 07:06:04.338
DID NOT COMPLETE THEIR

07:06:04.405 --> 07:06:04.939
AFFIRMATIVE OBLIGATIONS. AND

07:06:05.006 --> 07:06:05.506
UNLIKE THE PROBATION ON THE

07:06:05.573 --> 07:06:06.974
SEXUAL OFFENDER BILL, THIS

07:06:07.041 --> 07:06:10.144
THERE'S NO MANDATED PROBATION

07:06:10.211 --> 07:06:13.014
OBLIGATIONS ALREADY SET WITH

07:06:13.080 --> 07:06:17.718
PROPERTY OFFENSES. THERE ARE

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ALSO THESE THESE PROPERTY

07:06:19.320 --> 07:06:20.521
OFFENSES ARE SOME OF THE MOST

07:06:20.588 --> 07:06:22.056
COMMON BILLS OR THE COMMON

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OFFENSES IN MY JURISDICTION.

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PEOPLE WHO HAVE FOUND GUILTY OF

07:06:26.460 --> 07:06:28.129
THESE OFFENSES HAVE VARYING

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AMOUNTS. IF ANY, PROBATION

07:06:29.997 --> 07:06:32.166
OBLIGATION. AND ALTHOUGH THERE

07:06:32.233 --> 07:06:34.635
ARE. THIS THIS BILL HAS NOW

07:06:34.702 --> 07:06:36.070
BEEN AMENDED TO ONLY SUPPORT

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FELONY CONDUCT. THERE ARE MANY

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OF THE CHARGES IN THIS BILL

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THAT ARE WOBBLERS. SO THEY'RE

07:06:43.544 --> 07:06:45.212
ALREADY TAKING INTO

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CONSIDERATION THE PROBATION

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PERIOD, THE MITIGATING FACTORS

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WHEN ORIGINALLY CHARGING THIS

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BILL. AND BECAUSE THOSE

07:06:50.918 --> 07:06:51.986
CIRCUMSTANCES ARE ALREADY TAKEN

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INTO CONSIDERATION, WE WE

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STRONGLY OPPOSE THIS BILL.

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THANK YOU, THANK YOU. IS THERE

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ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

07:07:00.261 --> 07:07:04.498
OPPOSITION? A B 2553. MARCO

07:07:04.565 --> 07:07:05.967
GEORGE, ON BEHALF OF THE

07:07:06.033 --> 07:07:08.269
CALIFORNIA PUBLIC DEFENDERS

07:07:08.336 --> 07:07:09.136
ASSOCIATION IN OPPOSITION.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

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ANY OTHER OPPOSITION WITNESSES?

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OKAY, I'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE

07:07:15.910 --> 07:07:17.645
DAIS. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS?

07:07:17.712 --> 07:07:19.013
SENATOR CORTEZ, I FEEL LIKE

07:07:19.080 --> 07:07:20.348
WE'VE HAD SOME GREAT

07:07:20.414 --> 07:07:21.482
DISCUSSIONS IN THIS COMMITTEE

07:07:21.549 --> 07:07:23.684
THIS YEAR AROUND PROBATION. AND

07:07:23.751 --> 07:07:25.720
I'VE TYPICALLY FALLEN ON THE

07:07:25.786 --> 07:07:29.457
SIDE OF NOT WANTING TO TO

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EXTEND SOMETHING THAT I'VE

07:07:30.491 --> 07:07:32.326
REFERRED TO AS A SYSTEM THAT'S

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BROKEN IN SEVERAL WAYS. HOWEVER,

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I APPRECIATE THE CHAIR AND THE

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COMMITTEE NARROWING THIS BILL

07:07:39.500 --> 07:07:40.935
TO THE POINT THAT YOU HAVE, AND

07:07:41.002 --> 07:07:43.471
I'M GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE

07:07:43.537 --> 07:07:46.273
BECAUSE OF THAT. SO I'M

07:07:46.340 --> 07:07:47.842
STRAYING FROM MY USUAL PATTERNS

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HERE A LITTLE BIT TODAY. BUT I

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DO APPRECIATE THE WORK OF THE

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COMMITTEE. I WANT TO BE

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SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, AND I'D BE

07:07:54.015 --> 07:07:55.116
HAPPY TO MOVE THE BILL IF A

07:07:55.182 --> 07:07:58.252
MOTION IS NEEDED LATER. ANY

07:07:58.319 --> 07:07:59.487
OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS

07:07:59.553 --> 07:08:02.223
FROM COMMITTEE MEMBERS? WE HAVE

07:08:02.289 --> 07:08:03.791
A MOTION BY SENATOR CORTEZ, AND

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I'LL TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE

07:08:05.793 --> 07:08:07.128
ASSEMBLY. MEMBER. TO CLOSE, I

07:08:07.194 --> 07:08:08.629
RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.

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OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A

07:08:09.830 --> 07:08:11.332
MOTION. IF THE COMMITTEE PLEASE

07:08:11.399 --> 07:08:13.701
CALL THE ROLL. A B 2553

07:08:13.768 --> 07:08:15.836
PETRIE-NORRIS MOTION IS DO PASS

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AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS

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AGAIN I AGAIN I SAY, I SAY I

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CABALLERO CABALLERO I CORTEZ

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CORTEZ I PEREZ WIENER WE'LL

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KEEP THAT ON CALL FOR ABSENT

07:08:26.180 --> 07:08:27.915
SENATORS. THANK YOU ALL. AND WE

07:08:27.982 --> 07:08:30.284
HAVE ONE MORE BILL. AND I JUST

07:08:30.351 --> 07:08:32.019
WANT TO TAKE THIS UP TO THANK

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THE VICE CHAIR FOR BEING HERE

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THROUGHOUT THE DAY AS I HAD TO

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GO CHAIR OTHER COMMITTEES AND

07:08:38.893 --> 07:08:41.328
TALKING ABOUT ME. YES. AND

07:08:41.395 --> 07:08:42.963
PRESENT BILLS TO KEEP THE

07:08:43.030 --> 07:08:44.265
HEARING GOING. AND TO MY

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COLLEAGUES AS WELL FOR YOUR

07:08:45.232 --> 07:08:47.034
YOUR PATIENCE AND PARTICIPATION.

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AND I'LL NOW TURN IT OVER TO

07:08:49.770 --> 07:08:50.738
ASSEMBLYMEMBER BRYANT TO

07:08:50.805 --> 07:08:54.075
PRESENT. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR,

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AND AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE

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AN EXCELLENT BILL FOR THE VICE

07:08:57.244 --> 07:08:58.679
CHAIR TO PRESIDE AS WELL. I'M

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GRATEFUL TO BE WITH YOU ALL.

07:09:00.247 --> 07:09:02.616
I'M PROUD TO PRESENT AB 2599, A

07:09:02.683 --> 07:09:04.085
BILL FOCUSED ON CORPORATE

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TRANSPARENCY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.

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FOR CENTURIES, PRIVATE

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CORPORATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY

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BENEFITED FROM CHATTEL SLAVERY.

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THEY BENEFITED FROM THE

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ECONOMIC WEALTH TRANSFER OF

07:09:11.859 --> 07:09:13.127
FREE LABOR. THEY WROTE LOANS

07:09:13.194 --> 07:09:14.829
USING SLAVES AS COLLATERAL TO

07:09:14.895 --> 07:09:15.930
ENSURE THOSE LOANS AND

07:09:15.996 --> 07:09:16.997
UNDERWROTE THEM WITH THAT SAME

07:09:17.064 --> 07:09:18.933
SLAVE LABOR. BUT A LOT OF THESE

07:09:18.999 --> 07:09:20.201
STORIES HAVE BEEN ERASED OR

07:09:20.267 --> 07:09:21.335
PURPOSELY HIDDEN FROM THE

07:09:21.402 --> 07:09:22.770
PUBLIC. THE TRUTH AND

07:09:22.837 --> 07:09:23.838
DISCLOSURE ACT REQUIRES THAT

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ANY COMPANY WITH ANNUAL

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WORLDWIDE GROSS RECEIPTS OF

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OVER $100 MILLION TO VERIFY AND

07:09:29.076 --> 07:09:30.644
SEARCH ITS RECORDS FOR ANY

07:09:30.711 --> 07:09:32.580
TRANSACTIONS RELATED TO WEALTH

07:09:32.646 --> 07:09:33.781
GAINED DURING CHATTEL SLAVERY,

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AND REPORT THAT WEALTH TO THE

07:09:35.449 --> 07:09:37.151
STATE TO BE HELD IN A PUBLIC

07:09:37.218 --> 07:09:38.686
DIGITAL ARCHIVE. THIS BILL IS

07:09:38.752 --> 07:09:40.421
SIMPLY ABOUT TRUTH. IT'S ABOUT

07:09:40.488 --> 07:09:41.589
DISCLOSURE, AND SO THAT WE HAVE

07:09:41.655 --> 07:09:42.656
AN UNDERSTANDING OF HOW OUR

07:09:42.723 --> 07:09:44.058
PUBLIC INVESTMENTS MIGHT STILL

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BE GOING TO CORPORATIONS THAT

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HAVE BENEFITED FROM SOME OF THE

07:09:47.328 --> 07:09:48.662
DARKEST MOMENTS, IF NOT THE

07:09:48.729 --> 07:09:49.730
DARKEST MOMENT IN AMERICAN

07:09:49.797 --> 07:09:50.931
HISTORY. WITH ME TO TESTIFY

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TODAY IS MONA TAOTAO,

07:09:52.700 --> 07:09:53.634
REPRESENTING EQUAL JUSTICE

07:09:53.701 --> 07:09:55.202
SOCIETY AND THE ALLIANCE FOR

07:09:55.269 --> 07:09:57.004
REPARATIONS, RECONCILIATION AND

07:09:57.071 --> 07:10:00.941
TRUTH. HI. GOOD EVENING. HI.

07:10:01.008 --> 07:10:03.077
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND

07:10:03.144 --> 07:10:05.212
COMMITTEE MEMBERS. I'M VERY

07:10:05.279 --> 07:10:06.413
PLEASED TO BE HERE TO TESTIFY

07:10:06.480 --> 07:10:11.018
IN SUPPORT OF AB 2599 AND THE

07:10:11.085 --> 07:10:12.453
HISTORIC BILL THAT THIS BODY

07:10:12.520 --> 07:10:14.955
PASSED TWO YEARS AGO THAT LED

07:10:15.022 --> 07:10:17.124
TO A FORMAL APOLOGY FOR THE

07:10:17.191 --> 07:10:18.259
ROLE THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA

07:10:18.325 --> 07:10:20.327
PLAYED IN PERPETUATING AND

07:10:20.394 --> 07:10:21.629
PROFITING FROM THE ENSLAVEMENT

07:10:21.695 --> 07:10:24.031
OF BLACK PEOPLE. THE

07:10:24.098 --> 07:10:26.200
LEGISLATURE DECLARED THAT

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CALIFORNIA INDUSTRIES BENEFITED

07:10:27.601 --> 07:10:29.770
FROM ILL GOTTEN GAINS BASED ON

07:10:29.837 --> 07:10:32.273
CHATTEL SLAVERY, AND IT MADE

07:10:32.339 --> 07:10:33.707
THAT DECLARATION BECAUSE YOU

07:10:33.774 --> 07:10:35.142
RECOGNIZED HOW IMPORTANT IT IS

07:10:35.209 --> 07:10:36.877
TO EXAMINE THOSE ILL GOTTEN

07:10:36.944 --> 07:10:39.079
GAINS AND TO ENSURE THAT THE

07:10:39.146 --> 07:10:40.915
SIN OF COMMODIFYING HUMAN

07:10:40.981 --> 07:10:42.683
BEINGS FOR CORPORATE PROFIT

07:10:42.750 --> 07:10:44.952
NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN. AND THIS

07:10:45.019 --> 07:10:46.620
IS WHAT THE TRUTH AND

07:10:46.687 --> 07:10:48.422
DISCLOSURE ACT IS ALL ABOUT. IT

07:10:48.489 --> 07:10:50.191
WOULD REQUIRE QUALIFYING

07:10:50.257 --> 07:10:51.292
COMPANIES DOING BUSINESS IN

07:10:51.358 --> 07:10:52.760
CALIFORNIA TO EXAMINE THEIR

07:10:52.826 --> 07:10:54.161
HISTORY FOR THOSE ILL GOTTEN

07:10:54.228 --> 07:10:55.663
GAINS, AND TELL THE TRUTH ABOUT

07:10:55.729 --> 07:10:57.097
WHETHER THEY PROFITED FROM

07:10:57.164 --> 07:10:58.899
SLAVERY, SO THAT THE STATE CAN

07:10:58.966 --> 07:11:01.001
THEN SHARE THAT TRUTH WITH THE

07:11:01.068 --> 07:11:03.304
PUBLIC. THE BILL ANALYSIS FOR

07:11:03.370 --> 07:11:06.073
THIS COMMITTEE STATES

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TRANSPARENCY REGARDING

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HISTORICAL PRACTICES IS

07:11:09.109 --> 07:11:11.879
ESSENTIAL TO RESPONSIBLE

07:11:11.946 --> 07:11:14.415
GOVERNANCE AND ETHICAL BUSINESS

07:11:14.481 --> 07:11:16.784
STANDARDS. AB 2599 EMBODIES

07:11:16.850 --> 07:11:18.686
THESE VALUES AND FOLLOWS A LINE

07:11:18.752 --> 07:11:21.555
OF CALIFORNIA LEGISLATION THAT

07:11:21.622 --> 07:11:23.390
HOLDS CORPORATIONS TO THESE

07:11:23.457 --> 07:11:25.326
VALUES, TO ACCOUNTABILITY, AND

07:11:25.392 --> 07:11:28.095
TO A UNIFORM MORAL STANDARD. IN

07:11:28.162 --> 07:11:29.830
2000, THE STATE ENACTED THE

07:11:29.897 --> 07:11:31.565
SLAVERY ERA INSURANCE POLICIES

07:11:31.632 --> 07:11:34.501
LAW BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE

07:11:34.568 --> 07:11:36.203
DETERMINED THAT THE DESCENDANTS

07:11:36.270 --> 07:11:38.539
OF ENSLAVED PEOPLE AND ALL

07:11:38.606 --> 07:11:39.940
PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA DESERVE TO

07:11:40.007 --> 07:11:42.409
KNOW THAT TRUTH, THAT TRUTH

07:11:42.476 --> 07:11:43.944
ABOUT INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT

07:11:44.011 --> 07:11:45.346
EXIST TODAY BECAUSE OF CAPITAL

07:11:45.412 --> 07:11:47.481
GAIN FROM SLAVERY. TEN YEARS

07:11:47.548 --> 07:11:49.984
LATER, THE STATE ENACTED THE

07:11:50.050 --> 07:11:51.485
CALIFORNIA TRANSPARENCY AND

07:11:51.552 --> 07:11:53.387
SUPPLY CHAINS ACT TO FURTHER

07:11:53.454 --> 07:11:55.055
THE STATE'S GOAL AND MORAL

07:11:55.122 --> 07:11:56.624
IMPERATIVE TO ERADICATE SLAVERY

07:11:56.690 --> 07:11:58.726
AND HUMAN TRAFFICKING ONCE AND

07:11:58.792 --> 07:12:01.929
FOR ALL. THE LEGISLATIVE RECORD

07:12:01.996 --> 07:12:03.697
FOR THAT LAW SHOWS THAT

07:12:03.764 --> 07:12:05.132
CALIFORNIANS CARE WHETHER

07:12:05.199 --> 07:12:06.600
COMPANIES DOING BUSINESS IN THE

07:12:06.667 --> 07:12:07.935
STATE ARE DOING THE RIGHT THING

07:12:08.002 --> 07:12:11.305
AND DOING WHAT'S MORAL. THIS

07:12:11.372 --> 07:12:13.741
BILL HAS BROAD SUPPORT FROM

07:12:13.807 --> 07:12:15.242
DOZENS OF MULTIRACIAL AND

07:12:15.309 --> 07:12:17.011
MULTISECTOR ORGANIZATIONS THAT

07:12:17.077 --> 07:12:18.479
WORK WITH MILLIONS OF VOTERS

07:12:18.545 --> 07:12:20.281
THROUGHOUT THE STATE. AND, YOU

07:12:20.347 --> 07:12:21.315
KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN VERY

07:12:21.382 --> 07:12:23.083
STRONG SUPPORT WITH THIS BILL

07:12:23.150 --> 07:12:24.318
COMING OUT OF THE ASSEMBLY AND

07:12:24.385 --> 07:12:28.289
MOST RECENTLY IN THIS BODY LAST

07:12:28.355 --> 07:12:29.657
WEEK, PASSING THROUGH THE

07:12:29.723 --> 07:12:31.759
SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE. WE

07:12:31.825 --> 07:12:33.594
KINDLY ASK THAT YOU DO THE SAME

07:12:33.661 --> 07:12:36.830
TODAY AND VOTE YES ON AB 2599.

07:12:36.897 --> 07:12:38.932
THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

07:12:38.999 --> 07:12:40.100
I INVITE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD

07:12:40.167 --> 07:12:42.269
LIKE TO EXPRESS SUPPORT FOR AB

07:12:42.336 --> 07:12:43.704
2599. PLEASE COME FORWARD. IF

07:12:43.771 --> 07:12:44.838
YOU COULD PLEASE STATE YOUR

07:12:44.905 --> 07:12:45.773
NAME, ORGANIZATION OR CITY

07:12:45.839 --> 07:12:46.940
YOU'RE FROM AND YOUR POSITION

07:12:47.007 --> 07:12:49.810
ON THE BILL. HELLO. KRISTIN

07:12:49.877 --> 07:12:50.878
NIMMERS ON BEHALF OF THE

07:12:50.944 --> 07:12:52.646
ALLIANCE REPARATIONS LEAGUE OF

07:12:52.713 --> 07:12:54.481
WOMEN VOTERS, CATALYST

07:12:54.548 --> 07:12:56.684
CALIFORNIA, AND EQUAL JUSTICE

07:12:56.750 --> 07:13:00.254
SOCIETY. THANK YOU. SLOANE.

07:13:00.321 --> 07:13:01.388
NOELLE JOHNSON ON BEHALF OF

07:13:01.455 --> 07:13:03.157
LIVE FREE CALIFORNIA AND IMANI

07:13:03.223 --> 07:13:04.224
COMMUNITY CHURCH IN STRONG

07:13:04.291 --> 07:13:08.896
SUPPORT OF AB 2599. THANK YOU.

07:13:08.962 --> 07:13:10.264
HELLO. MY NAME IS JONAH

07:13:10.331 --> 07:13:11.832
MOREHOUSE AND I'M HERE TODAY

07:13:11.899 --> 07:13:13.367
REPRESENTING FOUR ORGANIZATIONS

07:13:13.434 --> 07:13:15.002
THE CALIFORNIA BLACK POWER

07:13:15.069 --> 07:13:16.437
NETWORK, ALLIANCE FOR

07:13:16.503 --> 07:13:17.871
REPARATIONS, RECONCILIATION AND

07:13:17.938 --> 07:13:19.640
TRUTH, A NEW WAY OF LIFE, AND

07:13:19.707 --> 07:13:21.542
ELLA BAKER CENTER AND STRONGLY

07:13:21.608 --> 07:13:22.910
IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. THANK

07:13:22.976 --> 07:13:27.581
YOU, THANK YOU. HELLO. MY NAME

07:13:27.648 --> 07:13:29.350
IS BETTY WATKINS, REPRESENTING

07:13:29.416 --> 07:13:30.784
BLACK WOMEN ORGANIZED FOR

07:13:30.851 --> 07:13:31.919
POLITICAL ACTION. AND WE

07:13:31.985 --> 07:13:33.253
STRONGLY SUPPORT THE PASSING OF

07:13:33.320 --> 07:13:37.024
THIS BILL. THANK YOU. GOOD

07:13:37.091 --> 07:13:38.859
AFTERNOON. KEVIN WARD WITH LIVE

07:13:38.926 --> 07:13:40.928
FREE CALIFORNIA AND STRONG

07:13:40.994 --> 07:13:45.966
SUPPORT OF AB 2599. THANK YOU.

07:13:46.033 --> 07:13:47.735
MR. CHAIR MEMBERS. I AM

07:13:47.801 --> 07:13:49.303
REVEREND CALVIN SALAS. GLAD TO

07:13:49.370 --> 07:13:53.807
BE HERE. ON BEHALF OF LIVE FREE

07:13:53.874 --> 07:13:57.878
CALIFORNIA AND THE ALLIANCE FOR

07:13:57.945 --> 07:13:59.213
REPARATIONS, RECONCILIATION AND

07:13:59.279 --> 07:14:01.382
TRUTH, AS WELL AS CLERGY FOR

07:14:01.448 --> 07:14:05.018
BLACK LIVES IN LOS ANGELES AS

07:14:05.085 --> 07:14:07.221
WELL AS CITY OF REFUGE IN

07:14:07.287 --> 07:14:10.023
OAKLAND. TO STRONGLY SUPPORT

07:14:10.090 --> 07:14:13.694
THIS BILL AS WE MOVE TOWARDS

07:14:13.761 --> 07:14:18.031
ACCOUNTABILITY. THANK YOU. GOOD

07:14:18.098 --> 07:14:19.099
AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DAMON

07:14:19.166 --> 07:14:20.100
WOODS. I'M WITH THE BLACK

07:14:20.167 --> 07:14:22.569
EQUITY COLLECTIVE. WE REPRESENT

07:14:22.636 --> 07:14:24.838
BLACK LED ORGANIZATIONS IN LOS

07:14:24.905 --> 07:14:25.939
ANGELES COUNTY, RIVERSIDE

07:14:26.006 --> 07:14:27.341
COUNTY AND SAN BERNARDINO

07:14:27.408 --> 07:14:28.409
COUNTY, AND WE ARE IN STRONG

07:14:28.475 --> 07:14:33.480
SUPPORT OF THIS BILL. THANK YOU.

07:14:33.547 --> 07:14:36.784
GOOD EVENING CHAIR MEMBERS AND

07:14:36.850 --> 07:14:37.918
STAFF. MY NAME IS DEBORAH

07:14:37.985 --> 07:14:38.952
SANDERS WITH BLACK CALIFORNIA

07:14:39.019 --> 07:14:39.920
UNITED FOR EARLY CARE AND

07:14:39.987 --> 07:14:41.755
EDUCATION, ALSO A MEMBER OF ART

07:14:41.822 --> 07:14:42.923
AND STRONG SUPPORT OF THE BILL.

07:14:42.990 --> 07:14:44.024
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD

07:14:44.091 --> 07:14:45.092
AFTERNOON, CHAIR AND MEMBERS,

07:14:45.159 --> 07:14:46.827
KAREN STOUT HERE ON BEHALF OF

07:14:46.894 --> 07:14:47.828
POWER CALIFORNIA ACTION AND

07:14:47.895 --> 07:14:50.898
SUPPORT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

07:14:50.964 --> 07:14:52.699
YES. GOOD AFTERNOON. LONNIE

07:14:52.766 --> 07:14:53.767
NORWOOD, REPRESENTING THE

07:14:53.834 --> 07:14:55.502
INLAND EMPIRE BLACK WOMEN'S

07:14:55.569 --> 07:14:57.070
COLLECTIVE AND ALSO THE

07:14:57.137 --> 07:14:58.806
ALLIANCE FOR REPARATIONS,

07:14:58.872 --> 07:14:59.907
RECONCILIATION AND TRUTH AND

07:14:59.973 --> 07:15:02.443
STRONG SUPPORT OF AB 2599.

07:15:02.509 --> 07:15:04.244
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE

07:15:04.311 --> 07:15:05.479
ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO EXPRESS

07:15:05.546 --> 07:15:07.114
SUPPORT FOR AB TWO FIVE, NINE

07:15:07.181 --> 07:15:08.916
NINE, SEEING NO ONE ELSE COME

07:15:08.982 --> 07:15:09.883
FORWARD? ARE THERE ANY

07:15:09.950 --> 07:15:10.884
OPPOSITION WITNESSES TO THE

07:15:10.951 --> 07:15:13.720
BILL SEEING NO ONE COME FORWARD,

07:15:13.787 --> 07:15:15.989
BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS FOR

07:15:16.056 --> 07:15:16.990
ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS OR

07:15:17.057 --> 07:15:20.394
EMOTION? MOVED BY SENATOR

07:15:20.461 --> 07:15:21.462
CABALLERO, VICE CHAIR. THANK

07:15:21.528 --> 07:15:29.837
YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO IN 2000, SB

07:15:29.903 --> 07:15:32.239
2199 WAS PASSED AND IT KIND OF

07:15:32.306 --> 07:15:36.243
DOES THE SAME THING. SO ALL OF

07:15:36.310 --> 07:15:38.045
THOSE THAT DID THEIR REPORTING

07:15:38.111 --> 07:15:41.482
AND IN THAT BILL. DO THEY HAVE

07:15:41.548 --> 07:15:43.417
TO REPORT AGAIN, OR IS THIS

07:15:43.484 --> 07:15:44.885
TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT THEY'VE

07:15:44.952 --> 07:15:46.320
ALREADY DONE THIS EXERCISE?

07:15:46.386 --> 07:15:47.855
THAT PARTICULAR LEGISLATION WAS

07:15:47.921 --> 07:15:49.523
FOR A SPECIFIC INDUSTRY BACK

07:15:49.590 --> 07:15:51.158
THEN, AND IT WAS A ONE TIME

07:15:51.225 --> 07:15:52.426
SNAPSHOT, ALTHOUGH THE EVIDENCE

07:15:52.493 --> 07:15:53.494
COLLECTED AND REPORTED THEN

07:15:53.560 --> 07:15:55.262
WE'VE MENTIONED IN OUR BILL CAN

07:15:55.329 --> 07:15:56.763
BE USED TO SATISFY THIS

07:15:56.830 --> 07:15:57.898
REQUIREMENT AS WELL, ALTHOUGH

07:15:57.965 --> 07:15:59.299
WE HAVE MORE REQUIREMENTS FOR

07:15:59.366 --> 07:16:00.434
DISCLOSURE IN HERE THAN WAS

07:16:00.501 --> 07:16:01.101
PASSED IN THAT ORIGINAL

07:16:01.168 --> 07:16:02.870
LEGISLATION BACK THEN. ALL

07:16:02.936 --> 07:16:04.438
RIGHT. SO ESSENTIALLY, THEY

07:16:04.505 --> 07:16:06.473
HAVE A HEAD START ON OTHER

07:16:06.540 --> 07:16:08.609
COMPANIES, AND THEREFORE IT

07:16:08.675 --> 07:16:10.077
SHOULD BE EASIER FOR THEM TO

07:16:10.143 --> 07:16:11.178
COMPLY BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE

07:16:11.245 --> 07:16:12.145
CONDITIONS WOULD ALREADY BE

07:16:12.212 --> 07:16:13.814
SATISFIED. AND IS THIS I MEAN,

07:16:13.881 --> 07:16:15.115
ARE THEY TRYING TO SEEK

07:16:15.182 --> 07:16:15.849
RESTITUTION FROM THESE

07:16:15.916 --> 07:16:17.184
COMPANIES, OR ARE THEY TRYING

07:16:17.251 --> 07:16:18.452
TO GET PEOPLE TO BOYCOTT THESE

07:16:18.519 --> 07:16:19.887
COMPANIES? WHAT'S THE END GOAL?

07:16:19.953 --> 07:16:21.355
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHO THE THEY

07:16:21.421 --> 07:16:23.423
ARE, BUT I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE

07:16:23.490 --> 07:16:24.825
WHO WANT THIS BILL TO PASS,

07:16:24.892 --> 07:16:26.326
WHAT DO THEY WANT? WHAT DO THEY

07:16:26.393 --> 07:16:28.295
WANT THE OUTCOME TO BE? I WANT

07:16:28.362 --> 07:16:30.197
THIS BILL TO PASS. AND I THINK

07:16:30.264 --> 07:16:31.365
MORE THAN ANYTHING, I THINK WE

07:16:31.431 --> 07:16:33.200
SHOULD HAVE A TRUE AND HONEST

07:16:33.267 --> 07:16:35.636
PUBLIC ACCOUNTING ON THE

07:16:35.702 --> 07:16:37.070
PRIVATE WEALTH THAT'S BEEN

07:16:37.137 --> 07:16:38.872
GENERATED AND AND EXTRACTED

07:16:38.939 --> 07:16:42.576
FROM OUR COLLECTIVE OWNERSHIP

07:16:42.643 --> 07:16:44.211
OF BLACK BODIES DURING CHATTEL

07:16:44.278 --> 07:16:45.646
SLAVERY. WE TALK A LOT ABOUT

07:16:45.712 --> 07:16:48.215
WHAT THE THE PUBLIC REPAIR

07:16:48.282 --> 07:16:49.983
LOOKS LIKE, BUT WE NEVER TALK

07:16:50.050 --> 07:16:51.151
ABOUT THE PRIVATE WEALTH THAT'S

07:16:51.218 --> 07:16:52.152
STILL BEEN GENERATED. THE FACT

07:16:52.219 --> 07:16:55.122
THAT MANY OF THE MAJOR LENDERS,

07:16:55.188 --> 07:16:56.523
FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS IN THIS

07:16:56.590 --> 07:16:57.257
COUNTRY, SOME OF THE

07:16:57.324 --> 07:16:58.358
FOUNDATIONAL WEALTH THAT WAS

07:16:58.425 --> 07:16:59.760
GENERATED, WAS GENERATED FROM

07:16:59.826 --> 07:17:02.296
CHATTEL SLAVERY. I THINK THERE

07:17:02.362 --> 07:17:03.730
ARE PROBABLY FOLKS ON THE DAIS

07:17:03.797 --> 07:17:04.898
WHO DIDN'T THINK ABOUT THE FACT

07:17:04.965 --> 07:17:06.233
THAT INSURANCE COMPANIES

07:17:06.300 --> 07:17:08.068
UNDERWROTE LOANS WITH SLAVES,

07:17:08.135 --> 07:17:09.036
INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT ARE

07:17:09.102 --> 07:17:10.170
STILL OPERATING TODAY, AND SOME

07:17:10.237 --> 07:17:12.372
OF THESE COMPANIES HAVE VERY

07:17:12.439 --> 07:17:14.474
LUCRATIVE PUBLIC CONTRACTS AND

07:17:14.541 --> 07:17:15.576
RELATIONSHIPS WITH LOCAL

07:17:15.642 --> 07:17:16.944
GOVERNMENTS AND WITH THE STATE

07:17:17.010 --> 07:17:18.111
OF CALIFORNIA. AND I THINK THE

07:17:18.178 --> 07:17:19.513
MORE WE KNOW ABOUT THIS

07:17:19.580 --> 07:17:22.115
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN OUR CIVIC

07:17:22.182 --> 07:17:23.483
INSTITUTIONS, OUR PUBLIC SECTOR,

07:17:23.550 --> 07:17:25.018
AND THE WEALTH GENERATED

07:17:25.085 --> 07:17:26.787
PRIVATELY AND HOW FAR BACK THAT

07:17:26.853 --> 07:17:28.055
RELATIONSHIP GOES, ESPECIALLY

07:17:28.121 --> 07:17:28.922
AS IT PERTAINS TO CHATTEL

07:17:28.989 --> 07:17:30.357
SLAVERY. I THINK THE BETTER

07:17:30.424 --> 07:17:32.125
INFORMED WE ALL ARE ON HOW WE

07:17:32.192 --> 07:17:33.594
SHOULD SPEND TAX DOLLARS GOING

07:17:33.660 --> 07:17:38.966
FORWARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. I

07:17:39.032 --> 07:17:39.900
THINK I FIGURED OUT THE ANSWER

07:17:39.967 --> 07:17:41.702
TO THE QUESTION IN LISTENING TO

07:17:41.768 --> 07:17:43.337
YOU AS WELL. SO BASICALLY, AS

07:17:43.403 --> 07:17:44.771
FAR AS THE DEFINITION OF

07:17:44.838 --> 07:17:46.540
SLAVERY FOR PURPOSES OF THIS

07:17:46.607 --> 07:17:49.810
BILL IS CHATTEL SLAVERY. I MEAN,

07:17:49.876 --> 07:17:52.312
IT'S PERSONS BOUGHT AND SOLD.

07:17:52.379 --> 07:17:54.881
WE'RE NOT GOING TO THE LEVEL OF

07:17:54.948 --> 07:17:57.284
SOMEBODY PAID $0.42 AN HOUR TO

07:17:57.351 --> 07:18:00.354
WORK ALL DAY. YEAH, I SUSPECT

07:18:00.420 --> 07:18:01.722
THAT MIGHT BE ONE OF YOUR NEXT

07:18:01.788 --> 07:18:03.490
NÓ, BUT THAT'S DEFINITELY A

07:18:03.557 --> 07:18:04.224
CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING

07:18:04.291 --> 07:18:06.293
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT SLAVERY IS

07:18:06.360 --> 07:18:08.161
ALSO STILL IN CALIFORNIA'S

07:18:08.228 --> 07:18:09.963
CONSTITUTION, AND WE

07:18:10.030 --> 07:18:12.499
PARTICIPATE IN IT THROUGH OUR

07:18:12.566 --> 07:18:16.169
OWNERSHIP OF OF BODIES IN OUR

07:18:16.236 --> 07:18:17.904
CARCERAL SYSTEM STILL TODAY.

07:18:17.971 --> 07:18:19.306
BUT NO, THIS IS LOOKING

07:18:19.373 --> 07:18:20.807
SPECIFICALLY GOING BACK TO

07:18:20.874 --> 07:18:22.576
CHATTEL SLAVERY. IT'S TRACING

07:18:22.643 --> 07:18:24.945
THAT BACK THROUGH CORPORATIONS

07:18:25.012 --> 07:18:28.348
THAT EITHER EXISTED OR ARE

07:18:28.415 --> 07:18:32.986
ESSENTIALLY. DRAW THEIR, THEIR,

07:18:33.053 --> 07:18:35.889
THEIR HISTORY BACK TO TIMES OF

07:18:35.956 --> 07:18:37.524
CHATTEL SLAVERY. ABSOLUTELY.

07:18:37.591 --> 07:18:38.692
AND YOU CAN THINK OF THE

07:18:38.759 --> 07:18:39.860
FINANCIAL SECTOR IN A MAJOR WAY,

07:18:39.926 --> 07:18:41.895
THE TEXTILE SECTOR IN A MAJOR

07:18:41.962 --> 07:18:43.130
WAY, THE AGRICULTURE SECTOR IN

07:18:43.196 --> 07:18:45.198
A MAJOR WAY. THERE ARE

07:18:45.265 --> 07:18:47.000
DEFINITELY SECTORS, PRETTY MUCH

07:18:47.067 --> 07:18:48.068
PRETTY MUCH ALL SECTORS. OKAY.

07:18:48.135 --> 07:18:49.469
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THE

07:18:49.536 --> 07:18:50.604
QUESTION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.

07:18:50.671 --> 07:18:52.406
THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS

07:18:52.472 --> 07:18:53.907
OR COMMENTS? NOW I'LL TURN IT

07:18:53.974 --> 07:18:55.075
BACK OVER TO ASSEMBLYMEMBER

07:18:55.142 --> 07:18:58.912
BRIAN TO CLOSE. THIS BILL IS

07:18:58.979 --> 07:18:59.980
THE ONLY PRIORITY LEGISLATION

07:19:00.047 --> 07:19:01.415
OF THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATIVE

07:19:01.481 --> 07:19:03.950
BLACK CAUCUS THIS CYCLE. IT IS

07:19:04.017 --> 07:19:05.018
IMPORTANT FOR A NUMBER OF

07:19:05.085 --> 07:19:06.486
REASONS. IT DOESN'T CALL FOR

07:19:06.553 --> 07:19:09.356
ANY IMMEDIATE REMEDIES. I THINK

07:19:09.423 --> 07:19:12.025
IT'S IT'S FIRST MOST IMPORTANT

07:19:12.092 --> 07:19:14.027
TO HAVE A TRUE AND HONEST

07:19:14.094 --> 07:19:15.095
CONVERSATION ABOUT WHERE WE ARE

07:19:15.162 --> 07:19:17.230
AND HOW WE GOT HERE. BEFORE WE

07:19:17.297 --> 07:19:19.099
DECIDE WHAT THAT MEANS AND WHAT

07:19:19.166 --> 07:19:20.867
RESPONSIBILITY WE HAVE TO

07:19:20.934 --> 07:19:23.003
PROVIDE MEANINGFUL REDRESS. IT

07:19:23.070 --> 07:19:25.972
HAS HAD SUPPORT, SIGNIFICANT

07:19:26.039 --> 07:19:27.307
SUPPORT ACROSS THE ASSEMBLY AND

07:19:27.374 --> 07:19:28.742
IN ITS FIRST COMMITTEE HERE IN

07:19:28.809 --> 07:19:29.743
THE SENATE. AND I RESPECTFULLY

07:19:29.810 --> 07:19:31.511
ASK FOR YOUR VOTE TODAY. THANK

07:19:31.578 --> 07:19:34.181
YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE A MOTION.

07:19:34.247 --> 07:19:35.582
YEAH. YES, I'LL MOVE IT. THANK

07:19:35.649 --> 07:19:37.250
YOU. IF WE CAN, PLEASE CALL THE

07:19:37.317 --> 07:19:39.886
ROLL. AB 2529 BRIAN, MOTION IS

07:19:39.953 --> 07:19:42.589
TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN.

07:19:42.656 --> 07:19:44.291
I AGAIN I SAY. COR. NØ.

07:19:44.357 --> 07:19:46.359
CABALLERO CABALLERO I CORTESE

07:19:46.426 --> 07:19:48.962
CORTESE I PEREZ WIENER I WIENER

07:19:49.029 --> 07:19:50.163
I THAT BILL HAS SUFFICIENT

07:19:50.230 --> 07:19:51.364
VOTES FOR. WE'LL WAIT FOR THE

07:19:51.431 --> 07:19:54.000
ABSENT MEMBER. THANK YOU. OKAY.

07:19:54.067 --> 07:19:55.902
WE'RE GOING TO DO THE ROLL CALL

07:19:55.969 --> 07:19:59.706
ONCE. SO DO WE KNOW WHEN

07:19:59.773 --> 07:20:02.876
SENATOR PEREZ WILL BE ARRIVING?

07:20:02.943 --> 07:20:06.847
AND HOW. SO THEY WERE ABSENT.

07:20:06.913 --> 07:20:09.316
WE HAVE MULTIPLE GOALS BECAUSE

07:20:09.382 --> 07:20:13.120
ALL I SAW WAS NO, I THERE WAS

07:20:13.186 --> 07:20:16.223
NO END GAME. WELL, I KNOW

07:20:16.289 --> 07:20:19.392
THERE'S MULTIPLE MULTIPLE BILLS.

07:20:19.459 --> 07:20:24.164
ONE ONE BIG ONE I KNOW. OKAY.

07:20:24.231 --> 07:20:29.269
WELL THEN. OKAY, SO GIVEN THAT

07:20:29.336 --> 07:20:31.304
WE HAVE ONE MEMBER WHO'S NOT

07:20:31.371 --> 07:20:34.474
GOING TO BE HERE IMMEDIATELY,

07:20:34.541 --> 07:20:36.409
LET'S JUST LET'S DO THE ROLL

07:20:36.476 --> 07:20:37.778
CALL FOR ALL MEMBERS WHO ARE

07:20:37.844 --> 07:20:39.246
HERE. AND WE'LL KEEP WE'LL

07:20:39.312 --> 07:20:40.580
RECESS THE COMMITTEE AND WAIT

07:20:40.647 --> 07:20:42.482
FOR THE LAST SENATOR TO ARRIVE.

07:20:42.549 --> 07:20:44.284
SO LET'S START WITH THE

07:20:44.351 --> 07:20:45.485
BEGINNING, THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

07:20:45.552 --> 07:20:47.320
IF WE CAN, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL

07:20:47.387 --> 07:20:48.321
ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

07:20:48.388 --> 07:20:51.858
CURRENT VOTE IS 4 TO 0. ORTEZ

07:20:51.925 --> 07:20:55.295
ORTEZ. AYE, THAT'S IT FOR THAT.

07:20:55.362 --> 07:20:57.164
OKAY, WE'LL KEEP THAT ON CALL.

07:20:57.230 --> 07:20:58.331
ARE YOU SURE PEREZ VOTED ON

07:20:58.398 --> 07:21:02.602
THAT? OKAY. NEXT IS FALLON AND

07:21:02.669 --> 07:21:05.105
ONE RAMOS ÁP 31. RAMOS. MOTION

07:21:05.172 --> 07:21:06.273
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS

07:21:06.339 --> 07:21:08.375
AGAIN. IS THERE A MOTION? OH

07:21:08.441 --> 07:21:09.476
I'M SORRY. THESE ALL NEED

07:21:09.543 --> 07:21:11.611
MOTION ITEM 1AB31 NEEDS A

07:21:11.678 --> 07:21:14.614
MOTION MOVED BY SENATOR

07:21:14.681 --> 07:21:16.716
CABALLERO. THANK YOU. AGAIN. I

07:21:16.783 --> 07:21:19.586
AGAIN I SAY I SAY A CABALLERO.

07:21:19.653 --> 07:21:21.655
CABALLERO AYE. CORTEZ. CORTEZ I

07:21:21.721 --> 07:21:23.890
PEREZ WIENER AYE WIENER AYE

07:21:23.957 --> 07:21:26.793
KEEP THAT ON CALL ÁP. 458.

07:21:26.860 --> 07:21:28.295
STEPHANIE MOTION IS TO PASS AS

07:21:28.361 --> 07:21:29.262
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS. THAT

07:21:29.329 --> 07:21:32.966
NEEDS A MOTION. I NEED A MOTION.

07:21:33.033 --> 07:21:34.701
OKAY. A B 458 STEPHANIE NEEDS A

07:21:34.768 --> 07:21:38.438
MOTION. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION.

07:21:38.505 --> 07:21:39.639
THANK YOU AGAIN. I AGAIN I SAY

07:21:39.706 --> 07:21:42.676
OR NOT SAY NOT VOTING CABALLERO

07:21:42.742 --> 07:21:45.111
CABALLERO I CORTEZ. CORTEZ AYE.

07:21:45.178 --> 07:21:47.314
PEREZ WIENER AYE WIENER AYE

07:21:47.380 --> 07:21:48.949
WE'LL KEEP THAT ON CALL. THE

07:21:49.015 --> 07:21:52.085
NEXT IS AB 1588. STEPHANIE I

07:21:52.152 --> 07:21:54.120
HAVE A MOTION. IT DOES NOT MOVE.

07:21:54.187 --> 07:21:55.589
MOVED BY VICE CHAIR CIERTO

07:21:55.655 --> 07:21:58.124
THANK YOU. MOTION IS Dð PASS TO

07:21:58.191 --> 07:22:00.393
APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. I AGAIN I

07:22:00.460 --> 07:22:03.129
SAY I SAY TO A CABALLERO

07:22:03.196 --> 07:22:05.732
CABALLERO I CORTEZ. CORTEZ I

07:22:05.799 --> 07:22:08.668
PEREZ WIENER WIENER AYE WE'LL

07:22:08.735 --> 07:22:10.337
KEEP THAT ON CALL. THANK YOU.

07:22:10.403 --> 07:22:15.075
MAYBE 910 NEEDS A MOTION TO

07:22:15.141 --> 07:22:16.810
ENTERTAIN A MOTION AB 910 BY

07:22:16.877 --> 07:22:19.346
ASSEMBLY. BONTA MOVED BY

07:22:19.412 --> 07:22:21.915
SENATOR CORTEZ. THANK YOU. 8910.

07:22:21.982 --> 07:22:23.617
A MOTION IS TO PASS TO

07:22:23.683 --> 07:22:25.185
APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. I AGAIN I

07:22:25.252 --> 07:22:28.722
SAY NO, SAY NO. CABALLERO.

07:22:28.788 --> 07:22:30.190
CABALLERO NOT VOTING. CORTEZ.

07:22:30.257 --> 07:22:33.393
CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ. WIENER. AYE.

07:22:33.460 --> 07:22:34.494
WIENER. AYE. WE'LL KEEP THAT ON

07:22:34.561 --> 07:22:38.798
CALL. THANK YOU. NEXT IS

07:22:38.865 --> 07:22:40.967
8AB2624 BY ASSEMBLY MEMBER

07:22:41.034 --> 07:22:42.135
BONTA. DOES THAT NEED A MOTION

07:22:42.202 --> 07:22:45.672
AS WELL. YES IT DOES. MOVE BY

07:22:45.739 --> 07:22:47.841
SENATOR CORTEZ. THANK YOU.

07:22:47.908 --> 07:22:49.609
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. AB 2624.

07:22:49.676 --> 07:22:51.111
BOND MOTION IS DO PASS AS

07:22:51.177 --> 07:22:52.545
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.

07:22:52.612 --> 07:22:55.782
AGAIN. I AGAIN I SAY NO, SAY NO.

07:22:55.849 --> 07:22:57.918
CABALLERO. CABALLERO I CORTEZ.

07:22:57.984 --> 07:23:00.453
CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ. WIENER AYE.

07:23:00.520 --> 07:23:01.554
WIENER AYE WE'LL KEEP THAT ON

07:23:01.621 --> 07:23:04.491
CALL THANK YOU. I THINK NEXT IS

07:23:04.557 --> 07:23:06.626
ITEM NINE AB 1539. DOES THAT

07:23:06.693 --> 07:23:08.695
NEED A MOTION. DOES OKAY

07:23:08.762 --> 07:23:10.797
ENTERTAIN A MOTION. AB 1539 AT

07:23:10.864 --> 07:23:13.433
THIS MOVE BY SENATOR CABALLERO.

07:23:13.500 --> 07:23:15.936
THANK YOU. MAYBE. 1539 MOTION

07:23:16.002 --> 07:23:17.704
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS

07:23:17.771 --> 07:23:20.874
AGAIN. I AGAIN I SAY NO SAY NO.

07:23:20.941 --> 07:23:22.742
CABALLERO. CABALLERO. AYE.

07:23:22.809 --> 07:23:25.245
CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ.

07:23:25.312 --> 07:23:27.981
WIENER. WIENER. AYE WE'LL KEEP

07:23:28.048 --> 07:23:30.951
THAT ON CALL. THANK YOU. OKAY.

07:23:31.017 --> 07:23:33.987
NEXT I BELIEVE IS ITEM 12 AB

07:23:34.054 --> 07:23:35.722
1607 BY MARK GONZALEZ. DOES

07:23:35.789 --> 07:23:39.292
THAT NEED A MOTION. YES. OKAY.

07:23:39.359 --> 07:23:41.895
MOTION ON FILE ITEM 12 AB 1607

07:23:41.962 --> 07:23:43.330
MOVED BY VICE CHAIR CIERTO.

07:23:43.396 --> 07:23:45.298
THANK YOU. MAYBE 1607 IS MOTION

07:23:45.365 --> 07:23:46.900
IS DUE. PASSED TO THE FLOOR

07:23:46.967 --> 07:23:50.136
AGAIN. I AGAIN I SAY I SAY TÔI.

07:23:50.203 --> 07:23:51.438
CABALLERO. CABALLERO AYE.

07:23:51.504 --> 07:23:55.542
CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ

07:23:55.608 --> 07:23:57.711
1607070 AYE. PEREZ AYE. WIENER

07:23:57.777 --> 07:23:59.245
WIENER AYE. OKAY THAT BILLS OUT

07:23:59.312 --> 07:24:02.782
A VOTE OF 6 TO 0. AB 1650 NEEDS

07:24:02.849 --> 07:24:06.119
A MOTION BY SENATOR CABALLERO.

07:24:06.186 --> 07:24:08.421
THANK YOU. MOTION IS TO PASS TO

07:24:08.488 --> 07:24:09.823
APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. I AGAIN I

07:24:09.889 --> 07:24:13.159
SAY NO SAY NO. CABALLERO.

07:24:13.226 --> 07:24:15.028
CABALLERO. AYE. CORTEZ. CORTEZ.

07:24:15.095 --> 07:24:18.264
AYE. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE. WIENER.

07:24:18.331 --> 07:24:19.966
WIENER. AYE. THAT BILLS OUT IN

07:24:20.033 --> 07:24:22.569
A VOTE OF 5 TO 1. THANK YOU. AB

07:24:22.635 --> 07:24:25.372
1664. JACKSON NEEDS A MOTION.

07:24:25.438 --> 07:24:27.841
IS THERE A MOTION. AB 1664 BY

07:24:27.907 --> 07:24:31.611
ASSEMBLY MEMBER JACKSON. MOVE

07:24:31.678 --> 07:24:32.812
THE BILL MOVE BY SENATE. PEREZ

07:24:32.879 --> 07:24:34.581
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MOTION IS

07:24:34.647 --> 07:24:36.182
TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN.

07:24:36.249 --> 07:24:39.019
I AGAIN I SAY NO SAY NO.

07:24:39.085 --> 07:24:40.854
CABALLERO. CABALLERO. AYE.

07:24:40.920 --> 07:24:43.023
CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ.

07:24:43.089 --> 07:24:45.191
PEREZ. AYE. WIENER. AYE. WIENER.

07:24:45.258 --> 07:24:47.060
AYE. OKAY. THAT BILLS OUT IN A

07:24:47.127 --> 07:24:49.229
VOTE OF 5 TO 1. NEXT I BELIEVE

07:24:49.295 --> 07:24:53.433
IS FILED 16 AB 1886. YEAH. OKAY.

07:24:53.500 --> 07:24:54.601
BY EL-HAWARY. THAT NEEDS A

07:24:54.667 --> 07:24:56.169
MOTION AS WELL. I'LL MOVE THE

07:24:56.236 --> 07:24:57.937
BILL MOVE BY SENATE. PEREZ.

07:24:58.004 --> 07:24:59.606
THANK YOU. MOTION IS DUE. PASS

07:24:59.672 --> 07:25:02.142
TO THE FLOOR. AGAIN AND AGAIN I

07:25:02.208 --> 07:25:05.211
SAY NO. CIERTO NÓ. CABALLERO.

07:25:05.278 --> 07:25:07.380
CABALLERO. AYE. CORTEZ. CORTEZ.

07:25:07.447 --> 07:25:10.784
AYE. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE. WIENER

07:25:10.850 --> 07:25:12.786
WIENER. AYE. OKAY. THAT BILL IS

07:25:12.852 --> 07:25:14.888
OUT ON A VOTE OF 5 TO 1. NEXT

07:25:14.954 --> 07:25:17.957
IS FILE 17AB2403 ALSO BY

07:25:18.024 --> 07:25:19.759
ASSEMBLY MEMBER AL-HAWARI. DOES

07:25:19.826 --> 07:25:21.161
THAT NEED A MOTION AS WELL.

07:25:21.227 --> 07:25:22.729
I'LL MOVE THE BILL. OKAY. MOVED

07:25:22.796 --> 07:25:23.930
BY SENATE. PEREZ THANK YOU VERY

07:25:23.997 --> 07:25:25.698
MUCH. MOTION IS DO PASS AS

07:25:25.765 --> 07:25:27.400
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.

07:25:27.467 --> 07:25:29.969
AGAIN. I AGAIN I SAY NOT VOTING

07:25:30.036 --> 07:25:31.671
NOT VOTING. CABALLERO.

07:25:31.738 --> 07:25:33.406
CABALLERO. AYE. CORTEZ. CORTEZ.

07:25:33.473 --> 07:25:35.975
AYE. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE. WIENER.

07:25:36.042 --> 07:25:38.478
AYE. WIENER. AYE. THAT BILLS

07:25:38.545 --> 07:25:40.980
OUT IN A VOTE OF 5 TO 0. NEXT

07:25:41.047 --> 07:25:44.217
IS FILE ITEM 18AB1897 BY

07:25:44.284 --> 07:25:46.753
ASSEMBLY MEMBER HANEY MOVED.

07:25:46.820 --> 07:25:48.455
THANK YOU. MOTION BY VICE CHAIR

07:25:48.521 --> 07:25:50.290
CIERTO. MOTION IS DO PASS AS

07:25:50.356 --> 07:25:52.959
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.

07:25:53.026 --> 07:25:55.829
AGAIN I AGAIN I SAY I SAY I

07:25:55.895 --> 07:25:57.497
CABALLERO. CABALLERO. AYE.

07:25:57.564 --> 07:25:59.766
CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ.

07:25:59.833 --> 07:26:03.303
PEREZ AYE. WIENER AYE. WIENER

07:26:03.369 --> 07:26:05.972
AYE. THAT BILL IS OUT IN A VOTE

07:26:06.039 --> 07:26:08.074
OF 6 TO 0 I BELIEVE NEXT IS

07:26:08.141 --> 07:26:09.809
FOLLOWED HIM. OH IT'S TRUE.

07:26:09.876 --> 07:26:12.645
IT'S WELL IT'S A B 1902.

07:26:12.712 --> 07:26:14.647
PELLERIN NEEDS A MOTION. THANK

07:26:14.714 --> 07:26:17.050
YOU. MOVED BY VICE CHAIR CIERTO

07:26:17.117 --> 07:26:19.586
MOTION IS TO PASS AS A Dð PASS

07:26:19.652 --> 07:26:21.387
TO APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN I AGAIN

07:26:21.454 --> 07:26:24.190
I SAY, I SAY TO A CABALLERO.

07:26:24.257 --> 07:26:26.392
CABALLERO. AYE. ORTEZ. CORTEZ.

07:26:26.459 --> 07:26:29.562
AYE. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE. WIENER.

07:26:29.629 --> 07:26:31.464
AYE. WIENER. AYE. THAT BILL IS

07:26:31.531 --> 07:26:34.067
OUT IN A VOTE OF 6 TO 0. THE

07:26:34.134 --> 07:26:37.137
NEXT IS FILE ITEM. WELL A B

07:26:37.203 --> 07:26:40.406
1905 SCHULZ AND A B 1905 SCHULZ.

07:26:40.473 --> 07:26:42.475
MOTION IS TO PASS TO THE FLOOR.

07:26:42.542 --> 07:26:45.078
CURRENT VOTE IS 2 TO 1 AGAIN I

07:26:45.145 --> 07:26:47.881
AGAIN I CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE.

07:26:47.947 --> 07:26:51.084
PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE. THAT BILL IS

07:26:51.151 --> 07:26:53.753
OUT IN A VOTE OF 5 TO 1. NEXT

07:26:53.820 --> 07:26:58.291
IS THE BURR WRIGHT 19, 1930 BY

07:26:58.358 --> 07:26:59.792
BURR NEEDS A MOTION THAT NEEDS

07:26:59.859 --> 07:27:03.963
A MOTION MOVED BY CABALLERO.

07:27:04.030 --> 07:27:06.099
THANK YOU. MOTION IS DO PASS,

07:27:06.166 --> 07:27:07.734
AS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS

07:27:07.800 --> 07:27:10.170
AGAIN I AGAIN I SAY NO CIERTO

07:27:10.236 --> 07:27:12.305
NØ. CABALLERO. CABALLERO. AYE.

07:27:12.372 --> 07:27:15.275
CORTEZ. ORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ. AYE.

07:27:15.341 --> 07:27:17.110
PEREZ. AYE. WIENER. AYE. WIENER.

07:27:17.177 --> 07:27:19.679
AYE. THAT BILLS OUT IN A VOTE

07:27:19.746 --> 07:27:22.882
OF 5 TO 1. NEXT IS AB 1959 BY

07:27:22.949 --> 07:27:25.318
PATEL. THAT NEEDS A MOTION

07:27:25.385 --> 07:27:27.086
MOVED BY VICE CHAIR CIERTO C¯

07:27:27.153 --> 07:27:28.988
MOTION IS TO PASS TO

07:27:29.055 --> 07:27:30.857
APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. I AGAIN I

07:27:30.924 --> 07:27:33.693
SAY, I SAY I CABALLERO.

07:27:33.760 --> 07:27:36.062
CABALLERO. AYE. CORTEZ. CORTEZ.

07:27:36.129 --> 07:27:38.731
NOT VOTING. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE.

07:27:38.798 --> 07:27:40.500
WIENER. AYE. WIENER. AYE. THAT

07:27:40.567 --> 07:27:42.969
BILLS OUT IN A VOTE OF 5 TO 0 I

07:27:43.036 --> 07:27:47.106
BELIEVE. NEXT IS BAUER-KAHAN A

07:27:47.173 --> 07:27:49.509
B 2047 BAUER KAHAN. MOTION IS

07:27:49.576 --> 07:27:50.843
DO PASS AS AMENDED TO

07:27:50.910 --> 07:27:51.544
APPROPRIATIONS. THE CURRENT

07:27:51.611 --> 07:27:55.215
VOTE IS 4 TO 1. PEREZ. PEREZ.

07:27:55.281 --> 07:27:58.151
AYE OKAY. THAT BILLS ON A 5 TO

07:27:58.218 --> 07:28:01.955
1. NEXT IS A B 2108 BY SHARP.

07:28:02.021 --> 07:28:04.224
COLLINS. MOTION IS DO PASS AS

07:28:04.290 --> 07:28:05.358
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.

07:28:05.425 --> 07:28:08.528
CURRENT VOTE IS 3 TO 1. CORTEZ

07:28:08.595 --> 07:28:11.064
AYE ORTEZ AYE. PEREZ. AYE.

07:28:11.130 --> 07:28:13.499
PEREZ. AYE. THAT BILL IS OUT ON

07:28:13.566 --> 07:28:17.904
A VOTE OF 5 TO 1. NEXT IS A B

07:28:17.971 --> 07:28:19.772
2113 BY MCKINNON. MOTION IS TO

07:28:19.839 --> 07:28:21.241
PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS. CURRENT

07:28:21.307 --> 07:28:23.610
VOTE IS 3 TO 0. CABALLERO.

07:28:23.676 --> 07:28:25.912
CABALLERO. AYE. PEREZ. PEREZ.

07:28:25.979 --> 07:28:30.116
AYE. WIENER. AYE. WIENER. AYE.

07:28:30.183 --> 07:28:32.118
THAT BILLS OUT IN A VOTE OF 6

07:28:32.185 --> 07:28:35.255
TO 0. NEXT IS A B 2411 ALSO BY

07:28:35.321 --> 07:28:37.690
ASSEMBLY MEMBER MCKINNON. AND

07:28:37.757 --> 07:28:38.858
THAT ONE NEEDED A MOTION THAT

07:28:38.925 --> 07:28:41.594
NEEDS A MOTION. SENATOR

07:28:41.661 --> 07:28:45.265
CABALLERO THANK YOU. AGAIN. I.

07:28:45.331 --> 07:28:48.601
I SEE A CABALLERO. CABALLERO

07:28:48.668 --> 07:28:51.304
AYE. CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ.

07:28:51.371 --> 07:28:54.941
AYE. PEREZ. AYE. WIENER AYE

07:28:55.008 --> 07:28:56.643
WIENER. AYE. THAT BILL IS OUT

07:28:56.709 --> 07:28:58.911
IN A VOTE OF 6 TO 0. NEXT IS

07:28:58.978 --> 07:29:02.515
FILE. NEXT IS A B 2232 BY

07:29:02.582 --> 07:29:09.289
PATTERSON. NEEDS A MOTION. AND.

07:29:09.355 --> 07:29:11.824
A B 2232 BY PATTERSON. NEEDS A

07:29:11.891 --> 07:29:14.694
MOTION. MOVED BY VICE CHAIR

07:29:14.761 --> 07:29:16.863
THANK YOU. MOTION IS DO PASS AS

07:29:16.929 --> 07:29:18.665
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS.

07:29:18.731 --> 07:29:22.635
AGAIN I I SAY I SAY A CABALLERO

07:29:22.702 --> 07:29:24.570
CABALLERO AYE. CORTEZ. ORTEZ.

07:29:24.637 --> 07:29:28.441
AYE. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE. WIENER

07:29:28.508 --> 07:29:31.277
SO THIS IS A A B 2232.

07:29:31.344 --> 07:29:34.614
PATTERSON. Ó AYE. WIENER AYE

07:29:34.681 --> 07:29:36.683
OKAY THAT IS A VOTE OF 6 TO 0.

07:29:36.749 --> 07:29:39.919
NEXT IS A B 2237. PATTERSON

07:29:39.986 --> 07:29:41.654
MOVE THE BILL MOVED BY VICE

07:29:41.721 --> 07:29:42.922
CHAIR. CIERTO MOTION IS DO PASS

07:29:42.989 --> 07:29:46.726
TO APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. NO NO

07:29:46.793 --> 07:29:50.029
I SAY A CABALLERO. CABALLERO.

07:29:50.096 --> 07:29:55.802
CORTEZ. CORTEZ NO. PEREZ WIENER

07:29:55.868 --> 07:29:59.038
NO. WIENER NO. BILL OKAY THAT

07:29:59.105 --> 07:30:01.140
BILL FAILS. RECONSIDERATION.

07:30:01.207 --> 07:30:01.908
RECONSIDERATION IS GRANTED

07:30:01.974 --> 07:30:06.212
WITHOUT OBJECTION. SO GRANTED.

07:30:06.279 --> 07:30:10.616
OKAY, NEXT IS A B 2235. PACHECO

07:30:10.683 --> 07:30:12.318
A MOTION THAT NEEDS A MOTION A

07:30:12.385 --> 07:30:16.656
B 2235. PACHECO. MOVED BY

07:30:16.723 --> 07:30:18.024
SENATOR CORTEZ THANK YOU.

07:30:18.091 --> 07:30:20.593
MOTION IS DO PASS AS AMENDED TO

07:30:20.660 --> 07:30:22.028
APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. I AGAIN I

07:30:22.095 --> 07:30:25.598
SAY I SAY CABALLERO. CABALLERO.

07:30:25.665 --> 07:30:28.468
AYE. CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ.

07:30:28.534 --> 07:30:31.170
PEREZ. AYE. WIENER AYE. WIENER.

07:30:31.237 --> 07:30:33.339
AYE. THAT BILL IS OUT IN A VOTE

07:30:33.406 --> 07:30:37.176
OF 6 TO 0. NEXT IS A B 2261.

07:30:37.243 --> 07:30:38.644
DIXON NEEDS A MOTION THAT NEEDS

07:30:38.711 --> 07:30:41.047
A MOTION. I'LL MOVE THE BILL

07:30:41.114 --> 07:30:42.915
MOVED BY VICE CHAIR. THANK YOU.

07:30:42.982 --> 07:30:45.118
MOTION IS DO PASS AS AMENDED TO

07:30:45.184 --> 07:30:46.619
APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. I AGAIN I

07:30:46.686 --> 07:30:49.822
SAY I SAY A CABALLERO.

07:30:49.889 --> 07:30:51.724
CABALLERO. AYE. CORTEZ. CORTEZ.

07:30:51.791 --> 07:30:54.160
AYE. PEREZ. AYE. PEREZ. AYE.

07:30:54.227 --> 07:30:56.396
WIENER AYE WIENER. AYE. THAT

07:30:56.462 --> 07:30:58.831
BILL IS OUT IN A VOTE OF 6 TO 0.

07:30:58.898 --> 07:31:01.667
NEXT IS A B 2304. LACKEY NEEDS

07:31:01.734 --> 07:31:03.469
MOTION AND THAT NEEDS A MOTION

07:31:03.536 --> 07:31:05.371
MOVED BY VICE CHAIR CIERTO

07:31:05.438 --> 07:31:07.240
THANK YOU. MOTION IS TO PASS TO

07:31:07.306 --> 07:31:08.541
APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. I AGAIN I

07:31:08.608 --> 07:31:11.477
SAY I SAY CABALLERO. CABALLERO.

07:31:11.544 --> 07:31:14.347
AYE. CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ.

07:31:14.414 --> 07:31:16.449
PEREZ. AYE WIENER AYE. WIENER

07:31:16.516 --> 07:31:18.050
AYE. THAT BILL IS OUT IN A VOTE

07:31:18.117 --> 07:31:24.390
OF 6 TO 0. NEXT IS A B 23792379.

07:31:24.457 --> 07:31:26.926
IT'S A MOTION MOVED BY SENATOR

07:31:26.993 --> 07:31:28.060
CABALLERO. THANK YOU. MOTION IS

07:31:28.127 --> 07:31:30.463
TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN.

07:31:30.530 --> 07:31:34.467
I AGAIN I SAY TO SAY AS AMENDED

07:31:34.534 --> 07:31:35.768
AS AMENDED APPROPRIATE. THANK

07:31:35.835 --> 07:31:38.704
YOU. NO NO. CABALLERO.

07:31:38.771 --> 07:31:40.540
CABALLERO. AYE. CORTESE. CORTEZ.

07:31:40.606 --> 07:31:44.143
AYE. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE. WIENER.

07:31:44.210 --> 07:31:46.646
AYE. WIENER. AYE. OKAY. THAT

07:31:46.712 --> 07:31:48.915
BILLS OUT IN ABOUT A 5 TO 1.

07:31:48.981 --> 07:31:51.717
NEXT IS A B 2384. LOWENTHAL A

07:31:51.784 --> 07:31:53.553
MOTION THAT NEEDS A MOTION.

07:31:53.619 --> 07:31:56.022
MOVE BY CABALLERO. THANK YOU.

07:31:56.088 --> 07:31:57.523
MOTION IS TO PASS TO

07:31:57.590 --> 07:31:59.325
APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. I AGAIN I

07:31:59.392 --> 07:32:02.295
SAY NO SEYARTO. CABALLERO.

07:32:02.361 --> 07:32:03.996
CABALLERO. AYE. CORTEZ. ORTEZ.

07:32:04.063 --> 07:32:06.132
Â. AYE. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE.

07:32:06.199 --> 07:32:08.334
WIENER. AYE. WIENER. AYE. OKAY.

07:32:08.401 --> 07:32:10.336
THAT BILLS OUT IN A VOTE OF 5

07:32:10.403 --> 07:32:12.705
TO 1. NEXT IS A B 2405 GIBSON.

07:32:12.772 --> 07:32:15.508
AND THAT NEEDS A MOTION. MOVE

07:32:15.575 --> 07:32:17.610
BY CABALLERO. THANK YOU. MOTION

07:32:17.677 --> 07:32:20.179
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATE AS I

07:32:20.246 --> 07:32:22.949
DIDN'T I DON'T BELIEVE THEIR

07:32:23.015 --> 07:32:26.619
AMENDMENTS. MOTION IS TO PASS

07:32:26.686 --> 07:32:28.154
TO APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN. I

07:32:28.221 --> 07:32:30.656
AGAIN I SAY NO SAY NO.

07:32:30.723 --> 07:32:32.792
CABALLERO. CABALLERO. AYE ORTEZ.

07:32:32.859 --> 07:32:35.294
ORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE.

07:32:35.361 --> 07:32:37.964
WIENER. AYE. WIENER. AYE. THAT

07:32:38.030 --> 07:32:41.100
BILLS OUT IN A VOTE OF 5 TO 1.

07:32:41.167 --> 07:32:45.037
NEXT IS A B 2553. PETRIE-NORRIS

07:32:45.104 --> 07:32:47.173
THAT EVERYONE RECORD THEIR

07:32:47.240 --> 07:32:52.245
VOTES ON THAT ONE. TWO. WHERE

07:32:52.311 --> 07:32:54.280
AM I. THAT'S OUT OF ORDER FOR

07:32:54.347 --> 07:32:57.650
US. 25532553. WIENER

07:32:57.717 --> 07:33:01.554
PETRIE-NORRIS 16 ON OUR 16 ON

07:33:01.621 --> 07:33:06.626
OURS. OKAY YEAH SO A B 2553 IS

07:33:06.692 --> 07:33:07.727
DO PASS AS AMENDED TO

07:33:07.793 --> 07:33:08.528
APPROPRIATIONS. AND THE CURRENT

07:33:08.594 --> 07:33:12.798
VOTE IS 4 TO 0. PEREZ THIS IS

07:33:12.865 --> 07:33:16.669
FOR A B 2553 PETRIE-NORRIS 5531.

07:33:16.736 --> 07:33:18.337
IF YOU DO REAL ESTATE CRIME YOU

07:33:18.404 --> 07:33:20.273
CAN GET EXTENDED PROBATION.

07:33:20.339 --> 07:33:25.678
JUST DON'T BE A SEX GUY. THAT'S.

07:33:25.745 --> 07:33:29.982
A PEREZ I WIENER OH MY GOD.

07:33:30.049 --> 07:33:32.018
WIENER AYE THAT BILLS OUT IN A

07:33:32.084 --> 07:33:34.954
VOTE OF 6 TO 0. NEXT I HAVE IS

07:33:35.021 --> 07:33:37.590
WE DID EVERYONE VOTE ON A B

07:33:37.657 --> 07:33:41.527
2599. BRIAN NO SHE WASN'T. OKAY.

07:33:41.594 --> 07:33:45.298
NEXT IS A B 2599. BRIAN MOTION

07:33:45.364 --> 07:33:46.499
IS TO PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS.

07:33:46.566 --> 07:33:48.701
THE CURRENT VOTE IS 4 TO 1.

07:33:48.768 --> 07:33:53.105
PEREZ I'M SORRY A B 2559. BRIAN

07:33:53.172 --> 07:33:56.208
THE REPARATIONS BILL 599 AYE.

07:33:56.275 --> 07:33:59.445
PEREZ AYE. OKAY. THAT BILLS ON

07:33:59.512 --> 07:34:01.981
A VOTE OF 5 TO 1. NEXT IS A B

07:34:02.048 --> 07:34:03.849
2605 ARAMBULA THAT NEEDS A

07:34:03.916 --> 07:34:05.952
MOTION. I'LL MOVE THE BILL.

07:34:06.018 --> 07:34:07.420
OKAY. MOVED BY VICE CHAIR.

07:34:07.486 --> 07:34:09.121
THANK YOU. MOTION IS DO PASS AS

07:34:09.188 --> 07:34:10.656
AMENDED TO APPROPRIATIONS AGAIN.

07:34:10.723 --> 07:34:14.660
I AGAIN I SAY TO I SAY AYE.

07:34:14.727 --> 07:34:16.028
CABALLERO. CABALLERO. AYE.

07:34:16.095 --> 07:34:20.032
CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ.

07:34:20.099 --> 07:34:22.168
WIENER. PEREZ. AYE. WIENER.

07:34:22.234 --> 07:34:23.669
WIENER. AYE. OKAY. THAT BILL IS

07:34:23.736 --> 07:34:25.738
OUT IN A VOTE OF 6 TO 0. AND

07:34:25.805 --> 07:34:30.509
LASTLY I BELIEVE WE HAVE ITEM

07:34:30.576 --> 07:34:31.577
43AB2727 BY NGUYEN MOVED THE

07:34:31.644 --> 07:34:32.678
BILL MOVED BY VICE CHAIR.

07:34:32.745 --> 07:34:34.747
CIERTO MOTION IS DUE. PASSED TO

07:34:34.814 --> 07:34:36.315
APPROPRIATIONS. CURRENT VOTE IS

07:34:36.382 --> 07:34:40.186
3 TO 0. I AGAIN I SAY CABALLERO

07:34:40.252 --> 07:34:44.557
AYE. CORTEZ. CORTEZ. AYE. PEREZ.

07:34:44.624 --> 07:34:46.225
PEREZ. AYE. OKAY. THAT BILL IS

07:34:46.292 --> 07:34:48.327
OUT IN A VOTE OF 6 TO 0. THANK

07:34:48.394 --> 07:34:49.395
YOU COLLEAGUES WHO'VE RECORDED

07:34:49.462 --> 07:34:50.963
YOUR VOTES SEE YOU IN HOUSING.

07:34:51.030 --> 07:34:52.632
I THINK THERE ARE A FEW MORE

07:34:52.698 --> 07:34:54.967
FOR SENATE PRESIDENT VOTE ON AS

07:34:55.034 --> 07:34:56.168
WELL. LET ME GO BACK THROUGH

07:34:56.235 --> 07:34:58.037
HERE THEN. LET'S SEE IF WE GET

07:34:58.104 --> 07:35:00.306
YOUR SECOND. YOU DON'T GET YOUR.

07:35:00.373 --> 07:35:06.112
YEAH. AND 31 REAL ESTATE. OKAY.

07:35:06.178 --> 07:35:07.546
LET'S START FIRST WITH THE

07:35:07.613 --> 07:35:11.517
CONSENT CALENDAR. OKAY. CONSENT

07:35:11.584 --> 07:35:12.585
CALENDAR CURRENTLY IS AT FIVE

07:35:12.652 --> 07:35:16.188
ZERO. PEREZ. I'M SORRY. CONSENT

07:35:16.255 --> 07:35:19.425
CALENDAR. OKAY. CONSENT IS

07:35:19.492 --> 07:35:21.560
APPROVED ON A VOTE OF 6 TO 0.

07:35:21.627 --> 07:35:23.663
ÁP 31. RAMOS. MOTION IS DUE.

07:35:23.729 --> 07:35:24.730
PASSED TO APPROPRIATIONS.

07:35:24.797 --> 07:35:26.966
CURRENT VOTE IS 5 TO 0. PEREZ.

07:35:27.033 --> 07:35:29.168
PEREZ. AYE, THAT BILL IS UP TO

07:35:29.235 --> 07:35:31.337
6 TO 0. A B 458. STEPHANIE.

07:35:31.404 --> 07:35:32.505
MOTION WAS DO PASS AS AMENDED

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TO APPROPRIATIONS. CURRENT VOTE

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IS 4 TO 0. PEREZ. PEREZ AYE,

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THAT BILL IS OUT IN A VOTE OF 5

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TO 0. A B 1588. STEPHANIE

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MOTION IS TO PASS TO

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APPROPRIATIONS. CURRENT VOTE IS

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5 TO 0. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE, THAT

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BILLS OUT IN A VOTE OF 6 TO 0.

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8910. A MOTION IS TO PASS TO

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APPROPRIATIONS. CURRENT VOTE IS

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3 TO 1. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE. THAT

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BILL IS OUT IN A VOTE OF 4 TO 1.

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ÁP 2624. BONTA MOTION IS DO

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PASS, AS AMENDED TO

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APPROPRIATIONS. CURRENT VOTE IS

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4 TO 1. PEREZ. PEREZ. AYE, THAT

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BILL IS OUT IN A VOTE OF 5 TO 1.

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MAYBE 1539 AT THIS MOTION IS

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DUE. PASS TO APPROPRIATIONS.

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CURRENT VOTE IS 4 TO 1. PEREZ.

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PEREZ. AYE, THAT BILL IS OUT IN

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A VOTE OF 5 TO 1. I GOT HER ON

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THIS STUFF. YEAH. IS THAT IT.

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THAT'S WHAT I YEAH I THINK I

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YEAH I GOT IT ON EVERYTHING

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ELSE.

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OKAY. CAN WE CALL THE

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ROLL AGAIN ON A B 2237. THE

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CENTER PEREZ REQUESTED TO

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CHANGE HER VOTE ON A B 22370.

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RESCISSION. I HAVE TO RESCIND

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THE VOTE TO RESCIND THE Þ. OKAY.

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NEVER MIND, NEVER MIND. ONCE HE

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ONCE HE CALLS HER. YES. OKAY.

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THE ROLL IS CLOSED AND THE BILL

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FAILED AND RECONSIDERATION WAS

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GRANTED. ANYTHING ELSE, MADAM

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COMMITTEE ASSISTANT? NO, I

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THINK THAT'S IT. THAT COMPLETES

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OUR AGENDA. THANK YOU VERY MUCH

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TO OUR STAFF. THANK YOU TO THE

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COLLEAGUES. WITH THAT, THE

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SENATE STANDING COMMITTEE ON

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PUBLIC SAFETY IS NOW ADJOURNED.